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FINAL 2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #4 /#3 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

Yeah, thanks for the tip. You're right. God bless you and you're infinite wisdom. 

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    I'd rather stay behind Georgia until they come to Austin.  Same way I felt about being behind SC in 05.  I'd rather have something to prove than something to defend.

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    You say a lot of stupid shit and you do it at a rapid, voluminous rate. You’re like a shit howitzer, just fucking blasting the board with constant bullshit. 

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1 minute ago, Skipper said:

Didn't Indiana also cancel an OOC game against Louisville to stack wins (in their defense, probably hoping for a bowl and not the playoff when the AD made the call).  Indiana's schedule is group of 5 worthy outside of this one game Saturday.  Period.  If they get smoked by 3 TD's, they should take the same nosedive BYU did and frankly behind BYU if BYU wins Saturday.  Because BYU would have 3 or 4 better wins than Indiana.

If Indiana gets blasted by osu on Saturday they should absolutely, and likely will, drop like a stone and unless there are some upsets. A bad loss probably puts them just outside needing an upset or two to get in. They’d need Texas to beat aggy and then another sec team to get a 3rd loss. 

The should also be punished for that non conference schedule, just like ole miss should be for theirs. But at least ole miss played wake. With a loss to osu, they’d probably find themselves wishing they hadn’t can the game with Louisville looking for something to call a quality win. 

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27 minutes ago, heso said:

 

This is so fucking stupid and is exactly the nonsense that I was talking about upthread when I said that for some people the lack of a clear cut top tier in the sec equate to everyone being awesome. @TrashMaster G

This equates to nothing more than “I think uga and bama are awesome so their losses don’t mean anything.” And not only does uga losing twice not mean anything, but ole miss and tenn must also be awesome since they beat uga and bama. And we’re again supposed to just ignore losses to Vanderbilt, Kentucky, and Arkansas. He went so far as to call out LSU as a good win. LSU fucking sucks. Southern cal beat LSU week 1 and absolutely no one will try to claim them as a quality win for psu or nd. 

Do I think Indiana would be favored against bama? No, but they’ve smoked everyone they’ve played, didnt play Mercer in November, and they also didn’t lose two games including fucking Vanderbilt. 

The bad losses have to mean something but to the sec slobbers it either gets flat out ignored or “actually Vanderbilt, arky, and uk are all really good teams despite what their records say.” 

I agree, losses should matter.

I think it’s ridiculous that committee has Bama and Ole Miss ahead of Georgia.

Georgia has two quality wins (Texas and Tennessee) and no bad losses only two quality losses (Bama/Ole Miss)

Bama has one quality win (UGA) and one bad loss (Vandy) and one quality loss (Tenn)

Ole Miss has one quality win (UGA) and two bad losses (LSU/Kentucky)

2 hours ago, David Dennison said:

So I take it the TV people said mean things about Texas.

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Thanks for that incredibly brave yet controversial opinion, Chris. It’s only been talked about multiple times every day on the internet 

29 minutes ago, heso said:

 

This is so fucking stupid and is exactly the nonsense that I was talking about upthread when I said that for some people the lack of a clear cut top tier in the sec equate to everyone being awesome. @TrashMaster G

This equates to nothing more than “I think uga and bama are awesome so their losses don’t mean anything.” And not only does uga losing twice not mean anything, but ole miss and tenn must also be awesome since they beat uga and bama. And we’re again supposed to just ignore losses to Vanderbilt, Kentucky, and Arkansas. He went so far as to call out LSU as a good win. LSU fucking sucks. Southern cal beat LSU week 1 and absolutely no one will try to claim them as a quality win for psu or nd. 

Do I think Indiana would be favored against bama? No, but they’ve smoked everyone they’ve played, didnt play Mercer in November, and they also didn’t lose two games including fucking Vanderbilt. 

The bad losses have to mean something but to the sec slobbers it either gets flat out ignored or “actually Vanderbilt, arky, and uk are all really good teams despite what their records say.” 

You're putting a lot of words in people's mouths and I'm not sure you've done much of a deep dive on some of the scheduling stuff. In fact, you're pretty much awarding Indiana a high ranking BECAUSE they're schedule is dogshit.

What do you think IU is sitting at if they had already played Clemson, Bama, Texas, Tenn, Ole Miss, Kentucky and Florida? 

Penn State has lost to the one good team they've played. Ohio State is 1-1 against quality opponents. Indiana hasn't played ANYBODY. 

Some of the B10 scheduling is a joke this year with those teams. Sure - so is the SEC Nov FCS shit - but outside of Texas all of the 2 loss SEC teams have had a much tougher slate than any B10 team in the top 10. Let alone fucking Miami who the CFP has 8.

Are you going to sit here and with a straight face tell us that Indiana is still better than all of the 2 loss SEC teams if they lose to Ohio State? 

I'm not sobbing over the SEC. I'm looking at this objectively - like an adult - and seeing where a lot of these teams sit in the most predictive metrics and concluding that this set of rankings sucks.

Jesus Christ on crutches, we aren't losing to those sheep fucking weirdo aggys. Good lord. 

They have, again, a shit QB, no offensive identity, no RB, no WRs worth a shit, no TE, and an average defense. 

Quinn with a puss, er I mean abdominal strain could beat them. We are literally better in every aspect. I don't give a shit if it's at night in that bat shit covered stadium, we aren't losing. None of those morons on that team know what it's like to play us. It's just another game for us to beat them in. They can hype themselves up all they want, but remember, they barely put up 38 points against NMSU, and it was 7-3 in the 3rd qrt. 

Man, y'all gotta stop worrying. You're starting to sound like Bobby and Gerry against Michigan, ou, Vandy, and Arky. Just trembling that an upset can happen. No shit it could. Will it? Fucking mo. 

13 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Jesus Christ on crutches, we aren't losing to those sheep fucking weirdo aggys. Good lord. 

They have, again, a shit QB, no offensive identity, no RB, no WRs worth a shit, no TE, and an average defense. 

Quinn with a puss, er I mean abdominal strain could beat them. We are literally better in every aspect. I don't give a shit if it's at night in that bat shit covered stadium, we aren't losing. None of those morons on that team know what it's like to play us. It's just another game for us to beat them in. They can hype themselves up all they want, but remember, they barely put up 38 points against NMSU, and it was 7-3 in the 3rd qrt. 

Man, y'all gotta stop worrying. You're starting to sound like Bobby and Gerry against Michigan, ou, Vandy, and Arky. Just trembling that an upset can happen. No shit it could. Will it? Fucking mo. 

I can't wait to see the line on that game.

13 minutes ago, ztejas said:

You're putting a lot of words in people's mouths and I'm not sure you've done much of a deep dive on some of the scheduling stuff. In fact, you're pretty much awarding Indiana a high ranking BECAUSE they're schedule is dogshit.

What do you think IU is sitting at if they had already played Clemson, Bama, Texas, Tenn, Ole Miss, Kentucky and Florida? 

Penn State has lost to the one good team they've played. Ohio State is 1-1 against quality opponents. Indiana hasn't played ANYBODY. 

Some of the B10 scheduling is a joke this year with those teams. Sure - so is the SEC Nov FCS shit - but outside of Texas all of the 2 loss SEC teams have had a much tougher slate than any B10 team in the top 10. Let alone fucking Miami who the CFP has 8.

Are you going to sit here and with a straight face tell us that Indiana is still better than all of the 2 loss SEC teams if they lose to Ohio State? 

I'm not sobbing over the SEC. I'm looking at this objectively - like an adult - and seeing where a lot of these teams sit in the most predictive metrics and concluding that this set of rankings sucks.

Neither you, nor that asshat in the video that you said you couldn’t disagree with was talking about Indiana after a loss to Ohio state. This set of rankings is looking at where Indiana is right now. And where a bunch of 2 loss sec teams with bad losses are right now. And they are rightfully below Indiana. 

Indiana’s schedule is all in front of them. If they beat osu on Saturday they’ll be playing Oregon for the 1 seed. If they lose close to osu they’ll probably have to go play a 1st round game in Athens or Tuscaloosa. If they lose bad, they probably need an upset to get in at all. 

Even your guy in the video says how he normally has the stance of losses matter but… and then goes on to say that because he thinks the 2 loss sec teams are good and Indiana and Penn state aren’t, that the losses don’t matter. And that’s just fucking stupid. 

I hope Indiana makes it in. I’d love to see them somehow end up hosting one of the 2 loss sec teams. Bama, ole miss, and tenn have all shown that they are capable of losing to teams that are worse than Washington or Michigan. And while IU doesn’t have a win like any of those teams, they don’t have a loss, let alone 2 losses. 

48 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Jesus Christ on crutches, we aren't losing to those sheep fucking weirdo aggys. Good lord. 

They have, again, a shit QB, no offensive identity, no RB, no WRs worth a shit, no TE, and an average defense. 

Quinn with a puss, er I mean abdominal strain could beat them. We are literally better in every aspect. I don't give a shit if it's at night in that bat shit covered stadium, we aren't losing. None of those morons on that team know what it's like to play us. It's just another game for us to beat them in. They can hype themselves up all they want, but remember, they barely put up 38 points against NMSU, and it was 7-3 in the 3rd qrt. 

Man, y'all gotta stop worrying. You're starting to sound like Bobby and Gerry against Michigan, ou, Vandy, and Arky. Just trembling that an upset can happen. No shit it could. Will it? Fucking mo. 

7-3 in the 3rd qtr Aggies vs NM St?

2 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

7-3 in the 3rd qtr Aggies vs NM St?

If you ignore the first half,still wrong but closer?

38 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I can't wait to see the line on that game.

People were trying to say they’d be favored after LSU. Laughable. I think we get 7 at least 

6 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

7-3 in the 3rd qtr Aggies vs NM St?

Forget it, he's rolling.

1 hour ago, TornACL said:

We all saw what happened when everybody was sucking our dick.

 

Wait. Was there a sign up? Did I need to stand in line somewhere?  Because this was not happening in my household, and even if it was I’m not sure why it would have caused the football team to lose. 

1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

People were trying to say they’d be favored after LSU. Laughable. I think we get 7 at least 

Early line opened at UT -4.5. We’ll see how it moves after Saturday. I’d guess it’ll end up around 5.5 or 6 unless A&M loses. 

These people are so fucking scared that we are going to ruin college football and I am here for it.  We are going to ruin it cocksuckers so get ready.  Maybe it will be this year and maybe it won’t, but fear not we are here to stomp it out of existence.  Those that doubt us SUCK COCK BY CHOICE!

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4 hours ago, Js1 said:

It is not our fault we played an easier SEC schedule - blame the conference schedule makers. Michigan was a marquee matchup before Harbaugh left. Texas is beating teams they should and only dropped a game against a top 5 UGA. We do not have losses to unranked SEC teams (like Bama and Tenn and Ole Miss) or 2 losses (like Georgia, one of which was an 18 point loss and the other, they were down 30-7)

You’re hired!

6 hours ago, heso said:

Neither you, nor that asshat in the video that you said you couldn’t disagree with was talking about Indiana after a loss to Ohio state. This set of rankings is looking at where Indiana is right now. And where a bunch of 2 loss sec teams with bad losses are right now. And they are rightfully below Indiana. 

Indiana’s schedule is all in front of them. If they beat osu on Saturday they’ll be playing Oregon for the 1 seed. If they lose close to osu they’ll probably have to go play a 1st round game in Athens or Tuscaloosa. If they lose bad, they probably need an upset to get in at all. 

Even your guy in the video says how he normally has the stance of losses matter but… and then goes on to say that because he thinks the 2 loss sec teams are good and Indiana and Penn state aren’t, that the losses don’t matter. And that’s just fucking stupid. 

I hope Indiana makes it in. I’d love to see them somehow end up hosting one of the 2 loss sec teams. Bama, ole miss, and tenn have all shown that they are capable of losing to teams that are worse than Washington or Michigan. And while IU doesn’t have a win like any of those teams, they don’t have a loss, let alone 2 losses. 

You seem overly defensive about this. Ryen Russillo is not an "asshat". You can agree with him or not but he's a multimillionaire and - in my opinion - one of the best voices on cfb and the NBA that there is going today. 

I'm happy to revisit this with you after the playoffs where I'm assuming that the SEC will dominate.

7 hours ago, heso said:

Even your guy in the video says how he normally has the stance of losses matter but… and then goes on to say that because he thinks the 2 loss sec teams are good and Indiana and Penn state aren’t, that the losses don’t matter. And that’s just fucking stupid. 


When there’s that big of a difference in schedule, you can’t punish the team that actually played reasonable opponents. When Indiana loses competitively, say by 7-10 points, to Ohio State, they will have absolutely no argument that they deserve a playoff spot over a team like Tennessee or Bama or Georgia or ole Miss. If Indiana gets rolled, you might as well be arguing that mizzou is a playoff team.

If Texas loses the SEC championship game, I hope we get to play a 1 loss Indiana or Boise State. Theyre the weakest teams in the conversation 

 

Per Klatt: the argument that hurts Texas is that a playoff contender’s ceiling is demonstrated by their best win. So far, Texas’ best wins are Michigan or Vandy. That’s our problem. If the Horns win out, Texas’ best win will be TAMU. 

Seems like everyone’s only viewing this IU/OhSt from the angle of IU and them losing. Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that Oh St loses on Saturday? I mean they haven’t been some juggernaut either. If they were to lose, where will they be positioned amongst all these 2 loss SEC squads? I could see them dropping pretty far themselves

9 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Yeah.. I wood. I'm drawn to idiots with perky breast's and a weird smile.

Lots of completely insane takes in this thread but I really can’t let this one go.

You think those are “perky?”

If I’m a coach of a team that’s still alive I want to hear nonstop shit talk about my program.  Makes it easy to motivate guys.

10 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Yeah.. I wood. I'm drawn to idiots with perky breast's and a weird smile.

breast's???

39 minutes ago, DaggerHorns said:

Lots of completely insane takes in this thread but I really can’t let this one go.

You think those are “perky?”

Thirst is real, leave Brittney alone!

8 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

breast's???

Lol, that's a bizarre auto correct.. but I'll be the Breast's massager.

46 minutes ago, Horns RD Standard said:

Seems like everyone’s only viewing this IU/OhSt from the angle of IU and them losing. Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that Oh St loses on Saturday? I mean they haven’t been some juggernaut either. If they were to lose, where will they be positioned amongst all these 2 loss SEC squads? I could see them dropping pretty far themselves

Not everyone views it this way. I've offered to take IU and the points to any comers multiple times. So far no takers. I'm of the opinion IU wins, but I'm a fool with money.

9 hours ago, Js1 said:

Thanks for that incredibly brave yet controversial opinion, Chris. It’s only been talked about multiple times every day on the internet 

And tv. And every college football podcast. Talking heads are wishcasting for drama, because there is more fairness this season and more games actually matter. Grievance and injustice drives clicks

1 hour ago, Horns RD Standard said:

Seems like everyone’s only viewing this IU/OhSt from the angle of IU and them losing. Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that Oh St loses on Saturday? I mean they haven’t been some juggernaut either. If they were to lose, where will they be positioned amongst all these 2 loss SEC squads? I could see them dropping pretty far themselves

Ohio State has helmet bias and their 2 losses would be to two top 5 teams, with a win over another top 5 team

I think they’re safely in even if they lose. I think Penn St may end up the odd one out if 4 B1G teams don’t get in, but I think they will 

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

You seem overly defensive about this. Ryen Russillo is not an "asshat". You can agree with him or not but he's a multimillionaire and - in my opinion - one of the best voices on cfb and the NBA that there is going today. 

I'm happy to revisit this with you after the playoffs where I'm assuming that the SEC will dominate.

Him being a millionaire has nothing to do with this specific stupid take. He might be great at nba, I don’t know, I’ve never heard of him. 

He just has a bad take that losses, and bad losses at that, don’t matter for the sec teams just because he thinks they’re good teams. 

It’s not just him either. There’s a number of people that are of the mind that quality wins are the only measuring stick. That somehow having multiple losses including bad teams makes you more deserving than IU, psu, or Texas just because you beat uga or bama. It’s just a dumb opinion to have. The guy even knows it when he says that he’s normally of the opinion that losses matter, but not this time. And then he uses wins over arky and lsu as decent wins. 
 

strength of record:

IU - 6

bama - 7

Tenn - 10

ole miss - 12

 

Indiana is probably worse than those teams. But the results on the field matter.

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20 minutes ago, immamac said:

Now imagine if Texas beat Georgia.

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I don’t know if it’s surprising or right on brand that UGA and Tennessee fans have picked up A&M’s juvenile antics and proclaim Texas paid for or heavily influenced the SEC to give us this schedule.

Its like those people live for conspiracy theories because it’s easier than just applying logic and reasoning.

2 hours ago, B00M said:


When there’s that big of a difference in schedule, you can’t punish the team that actually played reasonable opponents. When Indiana loses competitively, say by 7-10 points, to Ohio State, they will have absolutely no argument that they deserve a playoff spot over a team like Tennessee or Bama or Georgia or ole Miss. If Indiana gets rolled, you might as well be arguing that mizzou is a playoff team.

If Texas loses the SEC championship game, I hope we get to play a 1 loss Indiana or Boise State. Theyre the weakest teams in the conversation 

 

At the end of the season IU’s strength of schedule number wont look wildly worse than ole miss or Tennessee. IUs remaining strength of schedule is 4th, ole miss is 49, and UTs is 70th. Outside of uga, ole miss does not have a good schedule. Tenn at least got uga and bama. But both take a cowardly approach to non conference scheduling. 

It sucks for IU that UM and UW fell off as hard as they did. 

At the end of the day I’m not going to lose sleep over whoever gets left out. If it’s a 1 loss IU, well you shouldn’t have ducked Louisville ooc. If it’s a 2 loss sec team, well you shouldn’t have lost to vandy, Arkansas, or Kentucky on top of another loss. 

10 hours ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Jesus Christ on crutches, we aren't losing to those sheep fucking weirdo aggys. Good lord. 

They have, again, a shit QB, no offensive identity, no RB, no WRs worth a shit, no TE, and an average defense. 

I think we shuold win.  But they have a pretty damn good front 7 and that has been our biggest problem post Michigan.  Our OL is going to have to play a lot better than they did against OU and UGA (and Vandy) and Quinn can't get rattled when we inevitably have some busts that lead to sacks (i.e., we need Florida Quinn and OL play that shrugged off OL bust on first series costing us points).   Kentucky solid up front as well so will be a good gauge of where we are offensively headed into that game.

48 minutes ago, immamac said:

Now imagine if Texas beat Georgia. Everyone else would be irrelevant. 

Or at least kept it closer. Penn State should be getting the same flak we do, but they don't because they only lost their big game (Ohio State) by a touchdown.

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21 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I don’t know if it’s surprising or right on brand that UGA and Tennessee fans have picked up A&M’s juvenile antics and proclaim Texas paid for or heavily influenced the SEC to give us this schedule.

It’s like those people live for conspiracy theories because it’s easier than just applying logic and reasoning.

Pre-Texas, the SEC was a gauntlet from 1-14 and every team was in a war every Saturday for the past decade. 

Now it’s a schedule of cream puffs if Texas goes 7-1 and shouldn’t count for anything because it wasn’t a hard schedule. 

Meanwhile, in reality, Texas is pushing for the 9 game SEC schedule but the same people whining about our schedule don’t want to lose their guaranteed non-conference FCS win

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20 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I don’t know if it’s surprising or right on brand that UGA and Tennessee fans have picked up A&M’s juvenile antics and proclaim Texas paid for or heavily influenced the SEC to give us this schedule.

Its like those people live for conspiracy theories because it’s easier than just applying logic and reasoning.

If Aggy/UGA/Tenn really believed that Texas paid for a better schedule, the first thought should have been, "Why did we not think of that first?"  NOT, "look at them Austin folks influencin' and buyin' the outcomes."  It's not like those programs are poor. 

Logic should have taken them to at least ask the question and conclude, "Oh, yeah.  Probably not the case."  But, logic is the key word here...

2 hours ago, statsman said:

Per Klatt: the argument that hurts Texas is that a playoff contender’s ceiling is demonstrated by their best win. So far, Texas’ best wins are Michigan or Vandy. That’s our problem. If the Horns win out, Texas’ best win will be TAMU. 

we'll need to remember this next year when we beat Georgia and lose to Kentucky.

6 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

If Aggy/UGA/Tenn really believed that Texas paid for a better schedule, the first thought should have been, "Why did we not think of that first?"  NOT, "look at them Austin folks influencin' and buyin' the outcomes."  It's not like those programs are poor. 

Logic should have taken them to at least ask the question and conclude, "Oh, yeah.  Probably not the case."  But, logic is the key word here...

It was cute when Saban said earlier this year that "we weren't going to run the SEC."

If you look at the AP Top 15, according to ESPN's Strength of Schedule metric our schedule is tougher than that of 7 of those 15 teams.

This "Texas played nobody" nonsense is not being applied equally.  Our schedule is objectively more difficult than those of Oregon, Indiana (LOL), BYU, Miami, Notre Dame, SMU and Boise State.  It's approximately equal to Penn State's schedule.

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

If you look at the AP Top 15, according to ESPN's Strength of Schedule metric our schedule is tougher than that of 7 of those 15 teams.

This "Texas played nobody" nonsense is not being applied equally.  Our schedule is objectively more difficult than those of Oregon, Indiana (LOL), BYU, Miami, Notre Dame, SMU and Boise State.  It's approximately equal to Penn State's schedule.

We CAN't hAVe 5 SeC TeAMs iN ThE PLayoFf!

It is so fucking hilarious that now the SEC is not a weekly meat grinder like it has been for 15 years and bad losses don't matter.

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Ohio State has helmet bias and their 2 losses would be to two top 5 teams, with a win over another top 5 team

I think they’re safely in even if they lose. I think Penn St may end up the odd one out if 4 B1G teams don’t get in, but I think they will 

The Big Ten must be the new "MeatGrinder"tm

Just now, dcar00 said:

The Big Ten must be the new "MeatGrinder"tm

If Indiana wins - 4 B1G, 4 SEC, 1 Big 12, 1 ACC, 1 G5, ND 

Assuming we have a chalky last 2 weeks and not pure chaos. my assumption is that the SEC and B1G CCG losers will make it in, barring some sort of massive 70-3 blowout 

13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

 It's approximately equal to Penn State's schedule.

this should be the 1-line reply every instance of bitching about our schedule

put it on blast far and wide throughout the land

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