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1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

Yeah. I think we will find out that Michigan's D is legit and that our O really is that good.

Yesterday reminded me of the football version of Tim Duncan. I'm sure Michigan felt okay from one play to the next and then looked up and it was 31 to 6.

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    Michigan’s QB said Texas didn’t win, Michigan lost became poor execution. “They’re a good football team … but we shot ourselves in the foot and let them win that football game. We let them off too eas

  • Have you give Texas their flowers. They whooped Michigan’s ass in a way I haven’t seen in a long time. They look like a legit title contender. I would normally say see you again in the playoffs but

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3 hours ago, Leanderman said:

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I’m glad they drew the arrow on that picture so I could find the flag

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This game wasn't nearly as close as the score.   And the score wasn't close.

Michigan will be fine, we flat out made them look bad.

3 hours ago, Rimbo said:

Dude, I'm so glad I saw that. They were not expecting MM to just start talking football properly.

I wouldn’t have either. Sat next to him at a Holiday Bowl years ago. He had no idea what was going on rules wise, yelling at the refs for them getting the calls right, plus he looked a mess. Then he disappeared at halftime and never came back. 

5 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I wouldn’t have either. Sat next to him at a Holiday Bowl years ago. He had no idea what was going on rules wise, yelling at the refs for them getting the calls right, plus he looked a mess. Then he disappeared at halftime and never came back. 

Are you sure it was him and not just a drunk homeless person?

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5 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I wouldn’t have either. Sat next to him at a Holiday Bowl years ago. He had no idea what was going on rules wise, yelling at the refs for them getting the calls right, plus he looked a mess. Then he disappeared at halftime and never came back. 

Sounds like a typical surly game thread

13 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I wouldn’t have either. Sat next to him at a Holiday Bowl years ago. He had no idea what was going on rules wise, yelling at the refs for them getting the calls right, plus he looked a mess. Then he disappeared at halftime and never came back. 

In the late 90s his season tickets were real close to ours. His career was just taking off, about a year or so after A Time to Kill, his pre-luxury box days. He only came to a few games, and when he did he was piss drunk and looked like shit.

Speaking of his box seats, I got to sit there for a game in 2007 with my dad. I represented one of his old friends in a real estate matter, and he invited me to a game as a thank you. MM wasn’t there, but his mom was, and I talked with her a while. She was a real cool lady. 

2 hours ago, sith_horn said:

Those were Big 10 officials. Not as bad as Rig 12, but definitely turned a blind eye to a bunch of Michigan's holds and the late hit on Ewers.

Shit. 
A person at the game told me Big12.

That phantom holding call, the shitty constant clock issues, and the targeting call for a tackle on a running play between the tackles seemed to support their statement.

Serious though. That targeting if confirmed would have been Poona Ford defensive holding level of dumbassery

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1 minute ago, South Austin said:

In the late 90s his season tickets were real close to ours. His career was just taking off, about a year or so after A Time to Kill, his pre-luxury box days. He only came to a few games, and when he did he was piss drunk and looked like shit.

Speaking of his box seats, I got to sit there for a game in 2007 with my dad. I represented one of his old friends in a real estate matter, and he invited me to a game as a thank you. MM wasn’t there, but his mom was, and I talked with her a while. She was a real cool lady. 

He bring his bongos?

9 minutes ago, South Austin said:

In the late 90s his season tickets were real close to ours. His career was just taking off, about a year or so after A Time to Kill, his pre-luxury box days. He only came to a few games, and when he did he was piss drunk and looked like shit.

Speaking of his box seats, I got to sit there for a game in 2007 with my dad. I represented one of his old friends in a real estate matter, and he invited me to a game as a thank you. MM wasn’t there, but his mom was, and I talked with her a while. She was a real cool lady. 

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She was great in Bernie.

7 hours ago, Juicy said:

Have you give Texas their flowers. They whooped Michigan’s ass in a way I haven’t seen in a long time. They look like a legit title contender.

I would normally say see you again in the playoffs but unless michigans offense starts playing against 2nd stringers like they did in the final drive not sure they make the playoffs. Although Oregon doesn’t look as good as everyone predicted them to be. Still. Don’t want any part of Texas in the playoffs.

Would love to see Michigan somehow right the ship. Beat Ohio state and then Texas eliminates Ohio state in the playoffs and day gets sent packing.

Good luck to your squad. This one was ugly.

Why would you want Day gone? That's your gimme W every year, bud. 

5 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

if you havent done a 180 on Leinart at this point..then youre just holding grudges. Yea he is cool, normal, and funny. probably my favorite college talking head out of all of the networks

100% That dude is great. 

52 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I wouldn’t have either. Sat next to him at a Holiday Bowl years ago. He had no idea what was going on rules wise, yelling at the refs for them getting the calls right, plus he looked a mess. Then he disappeared at halftime and never came back. 

Hey, people can learn. Once upon a time, I thought Greg Davis was a good OC...

7 hours ago, Bogeywon said:

Congrats fellas. I’m sorry my wolverines suck and were overrated 

Davis Warren aside, I've always lowkey liked the Wolverines.  Hope you guys rebuild and get better as the season progresses.

I have a feeling Davis Warren is going to be making that "we let them win that football game" quite a lot this season. No, Texas took that game from you through sheer domination.

10 minutes ago, orangebird said:

Davis Warren aside, I've always lowkey liked the Wolverines.  Hope you guys rebuild and get better as the season progresses.

Me too. They're an iconic blue blood that I can't help but like pre-Stallions. But fuck tOSU

Rewatched this morning, it was just as much a pants down spanking as it seemed live, total domination.

Hell, late in the game even Sydir Mitchell chased Warren all the way to the sideline.

19 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Hey, people can learn. Once upon a time, I thought Greg Davis was a good OC...

greg davis is one of the greatest offensive coordinators in the history of the college game and he has the receipts to prove it. 

4 minutes ago, ousux said:

Hell, late in the game even Sydir Mitchell chased Warren all the way to the sideline

Doesn’t count bc Warren had 5 Big Macs in his hand pouch and Sydir gonna eat 

3 hours ago, sith_horn said:

Those were Big 10 officials.

interesting.  I always thought the visiting team league provided the officials. 

1 hour ago, South Austin said:

MM wasn’t there, but his mom was, and I talked with her a while. She was a real cool lady. 

I did some work down in Uvalde a few years ago and heard that about his mom, and I don't mean the way that your mom is "real cool."

7 minutes ago, futureman said:

greg davis is percieved by idiots as one of the greatest offensive coordinators in the history of the college game and he has Vince Young and Colt McCoy to thank. 

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1 minute ago, MIkeHoncho said:

interesting.  I always thought the visiting team league provided the officials. 

You don't remember our very own Big 12 refs shitshow of a display in the 2022 Alabama game?

Thinking about blue blood matchups after the game, it occurred to me that if we beat OU next month we'll have scoreboard over every other blue blood.  Not sure how often that happens, but it can't be too common.

1 minute ago, Not a cat said:

Thinking about blue blood matchups after the game, it occurred to me that if we beat OU next month we'll have scoreboard over every other blue blood.  Not sure how often that happens, but it can't be too common.

Who are you including in that list? 

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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

Who are you including in that list? 

OSU

USC

BAMA

UM

WYOMING

5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Who are you including in that list? 

Not sure his list but...

Georgia - check

Bama - check

Ohio State - check

Michigan - check

Notre Dame - check (lol Texas is back)

USC- check

OU - TBD

Now if you consider teams like Penn State or LSU blue bloods then it kind of all falls apart

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On 9/7/2024 at 1:33 PM, Escapedgoat said:

Yeah Texas came to their house pissed all over the flowerbeds  and left a load in the toilet and didn’t flush it. I like it. 

Shaggy scat. 

3 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

Thinking about blue blood matchups after the game, it occurred to me that if we beat OU next month we'll have scoreboard over every other blue blood.  Not sure how often that happens, but it can't be too common.

Ala GA USC UM Neb (I know but)

Ohio St who else?

18 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

You don't remember our very own Big 12 refs shitshow of a display in the 2022 Alabama game?

And last year in Tuscaloosa with secsec refs, a fair game was called. Go figure. 

3 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

Yeah. I think we will find out that Michigan's D is legit and that our O really is that good.


I think we will find out that Michigan's D is legit and that their offense isn't as bad as it looked but that our defense really is THAT good. 

 

8 hours ago, Armybrat said:

You Dove hunt anywhere near the CotA racetrack?

Like....almost directly across the street.  On yesterday's hunt, I could hear the whine of the engines of the cars they were running at the track (not sure what exactly was going on) clear as a bell.  Could see the tower from my spot -- maybe 1/2 mile to the tower?

I count blue bloods as tx, ou, USC, Mich, OSU, ND and bama.  Some include Nebraska which doesn't change the conclusion 

42 minutes ago, ousux said:

Rewatched this morning, it was just as much a pants down spanking as it seemed live, total domination.

Hell, late in the game even Sydir Mitchell chased Warren all the way to the sideline.

I rewatched the Cam "hold" 10 times and I still don't see it. 

I rewatched the Cam "hold" 10 times and I still don't see it. 
Yeah, that was a bullshit call. Didn't affect the outcome, but very Rig12ish.
5 hours ago, tokamak said:

That Michigan blogger told me last week that they had a million "dangermen" and we had like 2. Incredible that we managed to beat them with such a wild mismatch in talent.

Lots of crow being eaten today.

I don't think there have ever been as many Stetsons at DTW at one time as there were this morning.  

2 hours ago, Tex48 said:

Need to get her an invite to the surly tailgate next week

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Yep.   MI is not a good team.   The buildup was what was impressive, but they are going to fall out fast as the season goes on.  

Could they wind up as the lowest ranked defending champion?
1 minute ago, Jkwellborn said:


Could they wind up as the lowest ranked defending champion?

LSU finished 5-5 after their last NC. Michigan was a build for one NC, they had no plans for another. You can tell by the coaches and roster they now have. 

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Some long thoughts after two rewatches. I'm going to refer to a lot of timestamps in Nash's condensed game replay. Open that up in another window if you want to follow along. 

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Sark killed it. 

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The gameplan was great. A lot of that has been said already. The announcers highlighted how we went at their backup DTs in the run game. Everyone can see we abused their LBs and second corner and avoided Will Johnson. We spread them out then took it to them once they were tired. 

A couple things I thought were interesting that I haven't seen elsewhere: 

- We went to the pony package to start the game. I really like that. We knew that Sark would spread them out laterally to start the game. Michigan knew that too. This was a great way to do the expected in an unconventional way. We also used it situationally on the second drive (6:19).

- This was a really cool way to use the QB to create window dressing post-snap (2:00). This is designed, rehearsed movements by the QB before a handoff/pitch that'll mess with a LB's reads. And that's on top of everything Sark does with formations and motion.

- We didn't RPO them nearly as much as I thought we might (6:10). 

Something basic that is important to establish before the rest of the writeup: the team came showed a very clear understanding of the game strategy. Points were at a premium because of their offense's limitation. Possess the ball. Stay out of long-distance passing downs. Make them win by passing. Literally the only errors I saw that went against that were Cam Williams's penalties. 

Our run game was good. Don't let the box score fool you. 

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The box score says our RBs had 27 carries for 87 yards (3.3 yards per carry). 

But when you take out garbage time (when we went up 31-6), we started 17/73 for 4.3ypc. 

More importantly, I charted our RB carry success rate to be 47% on those 17 carries. That's very good. Last year, WVU was #21 in the country with a 47.25% rush success rate. We also had no runs for losses and only one for no gain. 

Great day on the ground imo - at least when we successfully handed it off. 

Xavier Worthy's replacement is Jaydon Blue, not Isaiah Bond.

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It's early in the season but I am forming the opinion that Sark has made some subtle, but hugely important, changes to the offense that will change the short passing game. Basically, we'll throw more swing passes to RBs and fewer WR screens. Jaydon blue will take the torch from Xavier Worthy and be the guy whose gravity Sark uses to manipulate defenses (akin to Steph Curry sucking in both PnR defenders in the NBA).

Blue had one big highlight play that shows the threat of these passes perfectly: 21:42.

We only threw two WR screens. One of them in the third quarter was blown up for a loss (29:49). The other one, which is much more interesting, was a tunnel screen on an early third down (2:12). It notably used a swing to Blue as misdirection. The safety, corner, and MLB all flowed towards Blue and that let Isaiah Bond knife through the middle to a first down. 

In addition to the WR screen that was blown up, UM also did a great job defending designed RB screens (1:17, 30:14). I think that Sark is proactively evolving here. Teams have five years of college film on him now. They're going to learn how to defend our screens, whether it's a bubble to a WR or the play-action throwback to a RB. We don't have anyone as gifted as Xavier Worthy to run them or Jordan Whittington to block them. So, pivot to throwing the ball to a RB out of the backfield. It accomplishes the same objective: pulling the front seven side-to-side and the safeties in. 

This is also something that Sark can build on with counters. See the tunnel screen above. And see Blue's 7-yard TD catch on a swing pass (36:11), but watch Ryan Wingo break open as the defense breaks on Blue. That's something we can come back to with a simple pump fake later in the season. It's the gravity of a fast and quick playmaker consuming the defense's attention. 

I've posted before about how the 'Keilan' role isn't something specific to Keilan Robinson or the RB position. Sark just likes to have guys that are lethal in space (speed + breaking/juking tacklers). He'll move them around, motion them a bunch, and get them touches on short passes to the outside with the defense poorly leveraged. That was Devonte Smith at Alabama, Keilan in years 1-2 when X was our only receiver that could stretch the field, but last year it was Worthy, and this year I think it's Blue.

Blue already has 9 catches in two games, putting him on pace for 50+ in the regular season. Before this year, the most receptions for a RB under Sark were Bijan with 26 in 2021 and Brooks with 25 last year. Blue might double them up.

I'd be remisced if I didn't also give Wisner a shoutout as being capable here too (13:25). And that Quinn is awesome at these throws. Yes, that's a real skill. No, not all quarterbacks are good at them. Yes, it matters.

Quinn was awesome 

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Quinn carried us early with third down conversions of 13, 5, and 7 yards (and another of 11 on the holding-negated TD). That gave us a 13-play drive that chewed 5:56 off the clock to start the game.

In hindsight, we were a clearly better team and would have won even if we punted after a three-and-out to open the game. But, when you talk about executing the game strategy, Quinn kept us afloat. On the second and third drives, we converted our third downs on the ground. The defense was tired and disoriented - because of Quinn. He was the reason that we dominated Michigan start to inish, rather than simply beat them.  

Here are some plays where he navigated to pocket at a really high level: 2:58, 4:04, 6:57, 16:20.

And here's a couple where he made smart decisions and followed the game strategy: 4:31, 18:38, 35:30. Quinn has grown up and learned how to win football games (which could be said for the entire team, really). 

This was an extremely impressive technical performance from Quinn. Oh my god - Quinn has good mechanics!? If he builds on this he'll win the Heisman and go 1.1.

There's still room for improvement.

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We've yet to see many explosive plays on the ground or on deep shots to WRs. We'll need those to come at some point. The good news is that we know Sark won't give up on the deep ball. 

LB run fits are an evergreen need. It's a fundamental like tackling. Just always keep working. I was a bit worried coming into the game but we were generally good. Gbenda did have one bad fit that I forgot to timestamp. 

Our edge guys have yet to make many big plays

 

 

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