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8 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

Then you've got migrants shipped to Ohio that are receiving government assistance.

What government assistance?  All the dipshits seem to think that migrants receive all this government assistance, ie welfare.

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9 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The odds favorite for 2028 ticket would have to be JD and Vivek at this point. 

It's going to be Trump Jr. vs whoever the state party selects to lose.

6 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

Then you've got migrants shipped to Ohio that are receiving government assistance. Landlords have been kicking out poor white renters, fixing up their properties and renting them to said migrants. The migrants will then do the jobs the poor white people were willing to do, but for less. It's one thing to take jobs that no one here is willing to do, it's a bit different when we're importing cheaper labor and putting Americans on the street.

That's not at all what happened with the Haitians, if that's what you're referencing. The mayor was pretty damn emphatic about a labor shortage. They were taking jobs poor white people wouldn't. Only to then be targeted by them. But that's Trump's America. 

9 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

If Trump managed to barter or force an end to the war in Ukraine, with little or no involvement, would that be a positive or negative? 

That allows Ukraine to retain its sovereignty? Obviously a positive. Just like unicorns flying down from rainbows to attend my daughter's bday would be positive.

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

What government assistance?  All the dipshits seem to think that migrants receive all this government assistance, ie welfare.

The people he is talking about are not migrants. They were asylum seekers and the government does have to provide them with some assistance per international treaty if we grant them asylum.

God damn you dip shits have no idea.

A puppet despot is taking control of the most powerful military force in history.

Dafuq do I care? We all die.

Just now, MissingInAction said:

God damn you dip shits have no idea.

A puppet despot is taking control of the most powerful military force in history.

Dafuq do I care? We all die.

 

the joint chiefs will be fully vetted this time around. swear your loyalty to trump or move on 

6 minutes ago, Frank The Tank said:

No, dipshit. Do you think anyone could afford to pay $30,000 a month for medication? Do you think if I was already paying that amount that I would be that concerned about the protections of preexisting conditions?

Then I’m glad you didn’t lie to us you fuck. Anyone can charge whatever the fuck they want to an insurance company and this is the exact cry me a river, over exaggerated bullshit people can’t stand when talking about healthcare.

God damn you dip shits have no idea.
A puppet despot is taking control of the most powerful military force in history.
Dafuq do I care? We all die.

We’ll be fine. Set a calendar reminder for 4 years from now.
2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

The people he is talking about are not migrants. They were asylum seekers and the government does have to provide them with some assistance per international treaty if we grant them asylum.

All immigrants are eligible for SSP assistance.

Just now, tx 3 putt said:

 

the joint chiefs will be fully vetted this time around. swear your loyalty to trump or move on 

Counterpoint, Trump and friends aren't the sharpest tools in the drawer.  Just lie through your teeth and swear unending loyalty and keep quiet until absolutely necessary.  Just watch some old Rudy press conferences as study guides for the vetting process...although you can probably do without the bad hair dye and flatulence.

AP calls Pennsylvania for Trump

1 minute ago, Captain Obvious said:

Counterpoint, Trump and friends aren't the sharpest tools in the drawer.  Just lie through your teeth and swear unending loyalty and keep quiet until absolutely necessary.  Just watch some old Rudy press conferences as study guides for the vetting process...although you can probably do without the bad hair dye and flatulence.

 

jp vance / stephen miller / elon musk, their staff will be handling it all 

Everyone watching this orange shitstain declare victory tonight can thank Democratic leadership for putting out the absolute worst candidate possible for this election. 

2 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Then I’m glad you didn’t lie to us you fuck. Anyone can charge whatever the fuck they want to an insurance company and this is the exact cry me a river, over exaggerated bullshit people can’t stand when talking about healthcare.

Holy shit. I know who you are now. You think the prices I’m charged by the pharmaceutical and insurance companies are up to me? You’re a fucking moron. I have no control over the cost of the drugs that I am forced to take to stay alive. Fuck you again you stain on the world. 

1 minute ago, Yev Kassem said:

Everyone watching this orange shitstain declare victory tonight can thank Democratic leadership for putting out the absolute worst candidate possible for this election. 

Who knew not being a traitor would tank their campaign.

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7 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Then I’m glad you didn’t lie to us you fuck. Anyone can charge whatever the fuck they want to an insurance company and this is the exact cry me a river, over exaggerated bullshit people can’t stand when talking about healthcare.

I think you are missing the point of how stressful and how trapped you would feel as an individual who's life legitimately depends on your health insurance continuing to pay for a medicine that is keeping you alive. His entire family is deeply affected by the possibility of ACA being repealed and then him being dropped off of any coverage and uninsurable due to his pre-existing condition. As soon as he doesn't have insurance he dies or has to come up with 30k/mo just to have a shot at living. 

Could you even imagine your dread if you were in that situation? 

Be better. 

I do

The fact that it’s even a debate is why Kamala should’ve been elected
8 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

The people he is talking about are not migrants. They were asylum seekers and the government does have to provide them with some assistance per international treaty if we grant them asylum.

Well, to be precise, most recent Haitian "immigrants" (you're right they're not really immigrants), have Temporary Protected Status, which is not a pathway to permanent residency or to citizenship.  We mostly exclude from most government "welfare" benefits those whose immigration status is less than permanent resident.

15 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

The real problem is farmers being forced to use illegal labor to cut costs. We probably need to increase farm aid to get around the issue.

So…socialism.

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

AP calls Pennsylvania for Trump

fuuuuck

22 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The odds favorite for 2028 ticket would have to be JD and Vivek at this point. 

burn it down amiright

9 minutes ago, McCroskey said:


We’ll be fine. Set a calendar reminder for 4 years from now.

You're probably right. Most of us in non-vulnerable communities, generally speaking, will be mostly fine. But we're banking on Trump being an incompetent liar, correct? I posted this in another thread, but it fits here:

 

I get it, man. We're all blowing this "threat to democracy" thing out of proportion, and maybe none of our fears will transpire if Trump is reelected (you know, just like Dobbs). But, for that to be the case, you have to believe one of three things: 

1) Trump doesn't mean, or is lying, about virtually everything he says. Because he blatantly says anti-Democratic shit every day. So nothing be says should be taken at face value. Who gets to decide what he does mean?

2) Trump and co. are too incompetent to carry out any of their radical agenda. Cool, sounds like someone who should be given the Presidency again with nothing but his sycophants this time at his side. 

3) We have checks and balances in place to restrain his more competent attempts at fascist tendencies. Why the fuck do we have to keep testing our system to the absolute limit to see what breaks?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Yev Kassem said:

Everyone watching this orange shitstain declare victory tonight can thank Democratic leadership for putting out the absolute worst candidate possible for this election. 

I really didn't like her as a candidate and  had hoped for the mini Primary. Pelosi apparently thought the same. It's possible it wouldn't have mattered who the candidate was. Would Josh Shapiro have won? Gavin Newsome? What's hard for me to wrap my head around is how we all convinced ourselves Kamala was doing great and running the rest campaign she could while apparently falling completely flat with the electorate. Again, considering the ledge and all, probably wouldn't have mattered at all. 

 

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think you are missing the point of how stressful and how trapped you would feel as an individual who's life legitimately depends on your health insurance continuing to pay for a medicine that is keeping you alive. His entire family is deeply affected by the possibility of ACA being repealed and then him being dropped off of any coverage and uninsurable due to his pre-existing condition. As soon as he doesn't have insurance he dies or has to come up with 30k/mo just to have a shot at living. 

Could you even imagine your dread if you were in that situation? 

Be better. 

 

they have full control, health care is about to be flipped upside down all in favor of the insurance companies 

I think you are missing the point of how stressful and how trapped you would feel as an individual who's life legitimately depends on your health insurance continuing to pay for a medicine that is keeping you alive. His entire family is deeply affected by the possibility of ACA being repealed and then him being dropped off of any coverage and uninsurable due to his pre-existing condition. As soon as he doesn't have insurance he dies or has to come up with 30k/mo just to have a shot at living. 
Could you even imagine your dread if you were in that situation? 
Be better. 

Yeah, WTF. His situation could change overnight and then his family is facing crippling debt to pay for meds to keep him alive. My FIL has some
form of congestive heart failure. He did pretty well as a dentist for 50 years but now that he’s retired and on Medicaid, it’s a yearly battle to get one particularly expensive medication that is five figures a month covered by his insurance. There’s no way he could afford the monthly payment out of pocket for this medication otherwise.
9 minutes ago, McCroskey said:


We’ll be fine. Set a calendar reminder for 4 years from now.

Roe already got reversed you dumb fuck. “We” already aren’t fine. People are being willfully ignorant now that this shit is setting in.

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

they have full control, health care is about to be flipped upside down all in favor of the insurance companies 

Thanks a lot, Joe Lieberman.

5 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think you are missing the point of how stressful and how trapped you would feel as an individual who's life legitimately depends on your health insurance continuing to pay for a medicine that is keeping you alive. His entire family is deeply affected by the possibility of ACA being repealed and then him being dropped off of any coverage and uninsurable due to his pre-existing condition. As soon as he doesn't have insurance he dies or has to come up with 30k/mo just to have a shot at living. 

Could you even imagine your dread if you were in that situation? 

Be better. 

I’ve had two parents go through cancer treatments both now and pre ACA. He said he was paying 30k, and he isnt. Period.

8 minutes ago, Frank The Tank said:

Holy shit. I know who you are now. You think the prices I’m charged by the pharmaceutical and insurance companies are up to me? You’re a fucking moron. I have no control over the cost of the drugs that I am forced to take to stay alive. Fuck you again you stain on the world. 

No you do t. You came in on election night, wah-wah’d about yourself and said you pay 30k a month when you don’t.

4 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

You're probably right. Most of us in non-vulnerable communities, generally speaking, will be mostly fine. But we're banking on Trump being an incompetent liar, correct? I posted this in another thread, but it fits here:

 

I get it, man. We're all blowing this "threat to democracy" thing out of proportion, and maybe none of our fears will transpire if Trump is reelected (you know, just like Dobbs). But, for that to be the case, you have to believe one of three things: 

1) Trump doesn't mean, or is lying, about virtually everything he says. Because he blatantly says anti-Democratic shit every day. So nothing be says should be taken at face value. Who gets to decide what he does mean?

2) Trump and co. are too incompetent to carry out any of their radical agenda. Cool, sounds like someone who should be given the Presidency again with nothing but his sycophants this time at his side. 

3) We have checks and balances in place to restrain his more competent attempts at fascist tendencies. Why the fuck do we have to keep testing our system to the absolute limit to see what breaks?

 

 

Regarding item #3, we're just doing our due diligence in terms of quality control testing.  Gotta make sure our system is built to last.

12 minutes ago, Yev Kassem said:

Everyone watching this orange shitstain declare victory tonight can thank Democratic leadership for putting out the absolute worst candidate possible for this election. 

Biden didn't give them many options. Biden had absolutely zero shot post the debate (and probably similar before the debate, if we're being honest). Seriously, imagine him having to come out and speak in front of crowds on a regular basis down the stretch of this campaign. His cratered approval was going to start any replacement candidate in a hole. They chose what seemed to be the least shitty option. It is what it is.

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I'm glad my wife is sleeping peacefully right now. I have to be in the office extremely early this morning. An employee died yesterday evening and it will be a horrific morning breaking the news to the team, dealing w/ HR to get answers for his family, etc.

I'm not going to be here to comfort my wife when she wakes up and promise her that everything will be ok . I don't know that I believe it myself.

7 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

burn it down amiright

All millennial ticket. They're gonna skip right over Gen X. Which is pretty on point. 

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The MSNBC denial is something else. It fucking is what it is.

We’re seriously going to bring up Dechambeau? What the fuck?

I'm glad my wife is sleeping peacefully right now. I have to be in the office extremely early this morning. An employee died yesterday evening and it will be a horrific morning breaking the news to the team, dealing w/ HR to get answers for his family, etc.
I'm not going to be here to comfort my wife when she wakes up and promise her that everything will be ok . I don't know that I believe it myself.

If your wife is sleeping soundly she’ll be doing the same in 4 years. Gonna be fine. Be an adult.

Dana lay off the fucking coke man. 

2 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Biden didn't give them many options.

It was obviously elder abuse after the debate. It should have never gotten to that point. 

9 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think you are missing the point of how stressful and how trapped you would feel as an individual who's life legitimately depends on your health insurance continuing to pay for a medicine that is keeping you alive. His entire family is deeply affected by the possibility of ACA being repealed and then him being dropped off of any coverage and uninsurable due to his pre-existing condition. As soon as he doesn't have insurance he dies or has to come up with 30k/mo just to have a shot at living. 

Could you even imagine your dread if you were in that situation? 

Be better. 

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. Enjoy laboring over your tailgates and NIL shit for these assholes on the football board.

1 minute ago, heso said:

We’re seriously going to bring up Dechambeau? What the fuck?

You mean Secretary of Defense Bryson Dechambeau. He's going to project military strength around the world by hitting drivers off the deck 350 yards!

We're fucked. Proper fucked.

43 minutes ago, immamac said:

This is exactly what I see. 

This is exactly who we are and who we have been as a country for far too long. We chose being selfish over the greater good. AGAIN. Historically this does not end well for countries that choose this path.

The country that simultaneously fought a world war on the continent of Europe and over thousands and thousands of miles in the great expanse of the Pacific Ocean for the greater good just gave the middle finger to all of those brave soldiers who fought for a better future 8 decades ago. This is shameful and embarrassing to see what we are collectively.

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