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It's going to be amazing to watch all the people who built up Reagan as a superhero these past few decades, suddenly switch on a dime to "What, Russia's the bad guys? Why, whatever do you mean? The real bad guys are Canada and the UK." 

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2 minutes ago, yoladu said:

I ran into 3 different migrant rape gangs just last week? it's getting ridiculous!

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5 minutes ago, locodos said:

I'm looking forward to the cratering of the tourist industry.  Not so much the retaliatory policies of other countries that is sure to follow.

German tourist held indefinitely in San Diego-area immigrant detention facility

 

I assume this is our plan to get in the prisoner exchange game. All Germany needs to do is meet our demands for 5,000 gallons of Hefeweizen, 2,500 pounds each of schnitzel, pork shank, and sauerbraten. 

1 hour ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Easy on the realtor talk.  I know some great people who are realtors.  What could Ricardo have done to make her react this way?  You're in a damn Mexican restaurant.  If this is a hoax by Ricardo (doesn't look like it) then shame on him

Fuck you. 

5 minutes ago, locodos said:

I'm looking forward to the cratering of the tourist industry.  Not so much the retaliatory policies of other countries that is sure to follow.

German tourist held indefinitely in San Diego-area immigrant detention facility

 

My former law partner is doing her normal escape Carnival season and went to Isla Mujeres.    She has been going there several times a year for 35 years. 

She said that this is the first time that she has felt self-conscious being an American there - as this is the first time she has felt an undercurrent of animosity toward her.   She said the interactions were never rude or overtly negative - but instead of her normal experience ofmultiple wait staff at different locations being super friendly (like she has always experienced), this time they seemed to show more forced professionally polite demeanor- and very neutral in their communications.  

Maybe a first time visitor would not notice that, but she texted me that she was deeply saddened and depressed by the whole experience. 

 

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‘America First’ is a lie. Good read from Jonathan V Last from The Bulwark.
 

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Donald Trump and Republicans explain their worldview by calling it “America first.” That’s a lie.
American foreign policy has always put America first. That’s what nations do. It’s axiomatic. Why did the United States do Lend-Lease with Britain before we entered World War II and bankroll the Marshall Plan afterwards? Why did we airlift supplies into West Berlin? Why did we spend trillions of dollars on nuclear weapons that have never been used? Why do we police the global shipping lanes and ensure stability in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East?
It’s not because we’re nice.
It’s because these actions further our interests. They make America safer and wealthier. They check the rise of rival powers. They put America first.
Leadership is how we have put America first from the time we became a global superpower.
Trump and Republicans want to retreat from that leadership not because they want to put “America first,” but because they want to elevate Russia and China to peer status.
And why do they want to do that? Because they think that Russia and China can be helpful with Trump’s internal political project of dismantling democracy and establishing permanent rule.
Trump’s “America first” policy is actually about selling out America’s interests in exchange for foreign assistance in putting Trump first.
1. Always First
In the roughest possible terms, there have been two American eras: Pre- and Post-Hyperpower.
From her Founding to World War I, America was weak. This fundamental fact was why our leaders in that era were wary of foreign entanglements. Geography provided us with a formidable moat, but we were not a great power with the ability to shape events on the world stage. So we tended our own garden and tried to grow according to the rule sets developed by Europeans.
Those rules were quite congenial to us; our population and industrial base grew. After Europe set itself on fire in 1914, we emerged as a peer—a great power, but one in its infancy and unsure of how to leverage its newfound position.
The original “America First” caucus emerged during this period, made up of people whose conception of America was still rooted in her past weakness. They did not have the mental framework to understand that as America’s relative position in the world had changed, so should her approach to the world. She no longer had to work within rule sets imposed by others; she could make the rules for everyone else.
The isolationist movement did not accept this shift and could not see the advantages America would reap by assuming the role of global superpower.
These men were wrong; but at least they were honestly wrong.1 The world was changing and they simply couldn’t adjust to it.
We all know what happened next: America became a dominant global power. Then, after the Second World War, we became the dominant global power. For the next 75 years we ruled the world.
During this Pax Americana, America was the indispensable nation. What does that mean, really?
It meant that no country, anywhere on earth, could act without considering our interests.
Could Sweden pursue nuclear weapons? Could Russia put missiles in Cuba? Could Egypt attack Israel?
In every case, the thought process in foreign capitals went like this:
Thesis: Identify what they wanted.
Antithesis: Determine if America would permit this objective.
Synthesis: Figure out how to pursue their objective in such a way as would be amenable to the Yankees. Or, at least, wouldn’t be likely to arouse too much Yankee ire.
That, my friends, is a power so vast you can’t even conceive of it. And it didn’t just apply to our adversaries—it applied to our friends, too.
Part of the way the United States leveraged our commanding position was by creating new types of alliances. For the most part, before 1945 allies were countries that agreed to fight wars together . . . and that’s about it. The United States had (and still has) plenty of these kinds of alliances—but after 1945 we also developed a deeper, more important kind of relationship.
The relationships in NATO, and among the Five Eyes, and with America’s other really close allies—Japan, South Korea—aren’t merely military agreements. They’re kinships. They transcend peace and war; they’re diplomatic, political, cultural, and economic.
Again: This is leverage. It means that when we go to war, we bring a huge crew with us. Other countries are willing to expend resources, and even shed blood, to stay aligned with us. Even for a contentious war like Iraq, we got nearly 40 countries to participate in some way or another.
This makes things cheaper for us. The Soviet Union and China and Iran have to spend money to dominate and subjugate their clients. Our allies spend money on our behalf, pursuing our interests, because we have shaped them in our image.
That’s what the “kinship” stuff is about. Our allies aren’t just allies. They adopted our rule-sets and hitched their interests to ours.
This multiplication of power wasn’t “good” for America—it was amazing for America. Over the course of 75 years we became wealthier than any civilization has ever been. Our influence over the globe became more far-reaching than that of any empire from the pages of history. Our lead over our next closest rivals expanded by the year.
Our currency became the world’s reserve currency, which allows us to accumulate debt and spend money more cheaply than everyone else. Our markets became the most valuable markets. Global systems of trade were built to our specifications.
And our security became impregnable. It wasn’t just that the American homeland was secure. We were able to turn former adversaries into allies. First Germany and Japan and then the former Eastern bloc nations of Europe and even, for a time, Russia.
Did the exercise of such awesome power cost us anything? Sure. There were some small and savage wars—Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. America paid some of the costs in blood; but mostly we paid with treasure. Which was—again—an excellent deal for us. Because we have more treasure than any nation in history.
Here is the thing you must understand: America will win any contest determined by the ability to spend money.
Rightly understood, this is just another example of how America created rules to benefit ourselves: Of course the richest country in history would build a system in which it could exert influence on the global order by spending money: Because the ability to spend money is one of our key advantages.
And yet today’s “America First” class thinks that spending money in order to shape the world is some kind of weakness.
2. Power Is Power
People have a hard time understanding soft power.
Why do we spend $10b a year fighting HIV/AIDS in foreign countries? I have to keep saying this: It’s not because we’re nice.
We spend that money in order to stabilize the global order. If AIDS runs wild in one country, that creates ripple effects. It destabilizes the local economy, risking political instability, which in turn risks regional instability. All of which poses some small danger to the established order which—QED—benefits America.
We spend that $10 billion to preserve the system which benefits us.
That’s what soft power is.
If that doesn’t make sense to you, think about hard power. Consider the ballistic missile submarine.
In 1959 America deployed the first ballistic missile sub (commonly referred to as a “boomer”). The USS George Washington was designed for one purpose: to launch nuclear missiles at the Soviet Union.
In the ensuing decades, our boomer fleet multiplied. We developed three new classes of SSBN before launching the vaunted Ohio-class, which is now nearing the end of its service. We have a new program, the Columbia-class boat, the first of which is currently under construction.
In the 66-year history of the SSBN program, we have spent hundreds of billions of dollars even though none of our boomers has ever fulfilled their designed purpose of launching a nuclear-tipped ballistic missile.
Is that wasteful spending? Does that make us “suckers”?
No. The boomers forced the Soviet Union into another money fight with us and—see above—money fights are the contests in which America always holds the biggest advantage. Thus the boomer program contributed to the peaceful fall of communism. Today our boomers are part of the triad which deters Russia and China’s use of nuclear weapons while forcing them to spend their relatively scarce resources in competition with us.
Spending money on nuclear ballistic missile subs is the same as spending money on AIDS prevention in Africa. Power is power is power. And any time America can exert power simply by spending money it’s a win for us.
Because we have the most money.
This stuff isn’t quantum mechanics. American leadership in the world benefits America. First and foremost. To the extent that it also benefits other countries, that’s great. Good for us.
But it’s not why we do it. That’s never been why we do it.
The people who want to pull back America’s leadership in the world under the pretense of being for “America First” are making us weaker, poorer, and less secure. They are giving away our long-term strategic advantages. They are making a world in which other countries do not have to ask themselves, “But how will the Americans respond?” before they act.
And for what? For saving a few hundred billion dollars? The whole point of being the strongest, wealthiest country on the planet is so that you have resources to deploy. That’s what the money’s for.
So what are these people up to? Are they just stupid? Does JD Vance not understand that, in giving away America’s leadership advantage, he is making us smaller and more vulnerable? Do these people not get that they are hastening into existence a multi-polar world in which America is not the dominant power, but merely a regional player who then becomes hostage to the interests of other countries?
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3. They Like the Nazis
In the 1930s some people in the America First movement just couldn’t get their heads around the new world order. Their mental model for foreign affairs was stuck in 1900 when America was a second-rate power.
But others in the America First movement were not so innocent. They were “America First” because they liked the Nazis. Adopting the pose of isolationism was the way they could further the interests of Nazism abroad and—they hoped—eventually at home.
That’s what going on with our “America First” movement today.
Trump and Vance want to trade away America’s leadership position in the world not because they think it will benefit our country, but because they think it will benefit them domestically. In the long term. If you catch my drift.
As last week’s events made clear, it is not the case that the Trump administration is retreating into isolationism from world events.
No.
The Trump administration has switched sides. Trump now sees himself as allied with Vladimir Putin against Ukraine and Europe.
Why?
Because Trump isn’t concerned with the interests of the United States. He’s concerned with the interests—and the power—of Donald Trump.
And Trump understands that Putin has already—and can in the future—help him maintain power in America.
That’s it. That’s the ballgame. Trump is on the side of dictators because he hopes to become a dictator—and he believes that if he helps further their interests, they will help him further his.
The goal of “America First” isn’t “America First.”
It’s “Trump Forever.”

 

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Yeah, that's pretty much it. Trump wants to be a dictator, fawns over dictators, and chose someone as his VP who has openly said in the past that America needs a dictator. Hold on, let me see if I can piece this all together....

 

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

My former law partner is doing her normal escape Carnival season and went to Isla Mujeres.    She has been going there several times a year for 35 years. 

She said that this is the first time that she has felt self-conscious being an American there - as this is the first time she has felt an undercurrent of animosity toward her.   She said the interactions were never rude or overtly negative - but instead of her normal experience ofmultiple wait staff at different locations being super friendly (like she has always experienced), this time they seemed to show more forced professionally polite demeanor- and very neutral in their communications.  

Maybe a first time visitor would not notice that, but she texted me that she was deeply saddened and depressed by the whole experience. 

 

Headed back there in May, and this is exactly what I've feared would be the case. Beautiful people and a vibrant culture, and we've always been welcomed so nicely. That's probably over. Thanks Trump, you POS.

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2 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

This gets interesting:

 

 

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Wait....if that's actually the play by the server who was stiffed.....I FUCKING LOVE IT.

Stepanie Fucked Around.  She was given the OPTION of not Finding Out, in exchange for cash.  That's the American enterprising spirit right there.  Why do you hate capitalism?

 

 

It's shit like this that makes it impossible to quit Surly!

3 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

 

 

 

 

It's shit like this that makes it impossible to quit Surly!

I just saw the disabled server part.   Holy fuck.

2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

So I guess the President can now simply choose not to enforce any laws he doesn’t like. Let’s call it the TikTok principle. Democracy was nice, it’s such a shame to see it gone

What laws? Like you can’t come over here illegally and live off the teat of the American taxpayer? He enforced that one and people lost their shit. 

11 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

LMAO.  I just opened this.  Comments do not disappoint and I now love Ohioans.

OK, let's not go overboard here.

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

My former law partner is doing her normal escape Carnival season and went to Isla Mujeres.    She has been going there several times a year for 35 years. 

She said that this is the first time that she has felt self-conscious being an American there - as this is the first time she has felt an undercurrent of animosity toward her.   She said the interactions were never rude or overtly negative - but instead of her normal experience ofmultiple wait staff at different locations being super friendly (like she has always experienced), this time they seemed to show more forced professionally polite demeanor- and very neutral in their communications.  

Maybe a first time visitor would not notice that, but she texted me that she was deeply saddened and depressed by the whole experience. 

 

 

17 minutes ago, wood said:

Headed back there in May, and this is exactly what I've feared would be the case. Beautiful people and a vibrant culture, and we've always been welcomed so nicely. That's probably over. Thanks Trump, you POS.

No one there will give a shit and I have no idea what gaturbet’s friend is talking about. Trump is popular in Mexico (a little less so than the first time imo, but he’s still well liked) and they love American money. Nothing has changed. 

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4 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

What laws? Like you can’t come over here illegally and live off the teat of the American taxpayer? He enforced that one and people lost their shit. 

You mean the people who pay taxes and do all the jobs white entitled fucks like you don't want to do?  Be careful what you wish for.

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

You mean the people who pay taxes and do all the jobs white entitled fucks like you don't want to do?  Be careful what you wish for.

You don't know that.  For all you know he could be sending his resume to a California strawberry farmer as we speak.

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

You mean the people who pay taxes and do all the jobs white entitled fucks like you don't want to do?  Be careful what you wish for.

It sounds like you’re saying that some laws are bullshit and should be selectively enforced. Namely those that you don’t agree with and Violators should be absolved of their crimes. Why not rob a bank and give $ to a charity then? If some good comes out of it, then it’s not really a bad thing. Sounds like a solid defense.

 

 

While we all just sit around and wait for the collapse and/or to become a Russian territory... I was wondering if there is any opposition to this. Chris Murphy seems to be doing his part. That's about it.

Maybe they're waiting on Trump to announce the merger between the US and Russia, where Russia controls large parts of the US. That seems like something that might come down the pike soon.

4 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

It sounds like you’re saying that some laws are bullshit and should be selectively enforced. Namely those that you don’t agree with and Violators should be absolved of their crimes. Why not rob a bank and give $ to a charity then? If some good comes out of it, then it’s not really a bad thing. Sounds like a solid defense.

 

 

No, what I'm saying is that the US should be doing just the opposite of what is happening now and instead of villifying those who want to come to America in search of a better life -- you know, like your ancestors did -- stop making it an increasingly high bar to clear.  But you knew that.

I'm not in the "democracy is over" camp...yet.  I continue to say that this is the cartoon version of a fascist/oligarchical takeover of the U.S.  Yes, some actual, real shit is happening and there are some people who are actually being affected by the implementation of Trump's policies, but it's not over yet.  I fail to see how the President can shutter a federal agency (USAID) that has been funded by Congress, for example. That issue has yet to be fully taken up by the courts.  My tipping point will be either when SCOTUS openly forsakes the Constitution or if the President and executive branch refuse to abide by a court order. I foresee a lot of this shit being overturned and rolled back; most of it, actually. I also foresee inflation going up, jobs reports going more negative and the economy entering recession. The midterms are going to be a fucking bloodbath for the GOP and the Trumpanzee will be emasculated with two years to go.

15 minutes ago, South Austin said:

You don't know that.  For all you know he could be sending his resume to a California strawberry farmer as we speak.

I may be wrong but I thought he was exactly the right....build...for farm labor.

23 minutes ago, Helobious said:

 

No one there will give a shit and I have no idea what gaturbet’s friend is talking about. Trump is popular in Mexico (a little less so than the first time imo, but he’s still well liked) and they love American money. Nothing has changed. 

Welp. There you have it, y'all. If you're planning on visiting Mexico soon, you should expect the worst possible treatment.

11 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

No, what I'm saying is that the US should be doing just the opposite of what is happening now and instead of villifying those who want to come to America in search of a better life -- you know, like your ancestors did -- stop making it an increasingly high bar to clear.  But you knew that.

And they are welcome here. We have a process for it and everything. Hell, I married one of them.

I have zero problem with anyone wanting to make a better life for themself, assuming that America offers such, which apparently we don’t anymore. Are there countries that encourage immigrating to them illegally that I’m not aware of? I’m not sure why this is such a controversial issue. Black people used to not be able to vote and neither could women. There are countless examples of what we used to do way back when that would be ridiculous to be continuing the same practice today. This includes letting people in unchecked because we are a land founded by immigrants.

8 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

I'm not in the "democracy is over" camp...yet.  I continue to say that this is the cartoon version of a fascist/oligarchical takeover of the U.S.  Yes, some actual, real shit is happening and there are some people who are actually being affected by the implementation of Trump's policies, but it's not over yet.  I fail to see how the President can shutter a federal agency (USAID) that has been funded by Congress, for example. That issue has yet to be fully taken up by the courts.  My tipping point will be either when SCOTUS openly forsakes the Constitution or if the President and executive branch refuse to abide by a court order. I foresee a lot of this shit being overturned and rolled back; most of it, actually. I also foresee inflation going up, jobs reports going more negative and the economy entering recession. The midterms are going to be a fucking bloodbath for the GOP and the Trumpanzee will be emasculated with two years to go.

Counterpoint: there will be a story about a trans kid playing high school basketball in Who Gives a Fuck, upstate New York, and every Trump voter will fall in line.  Because destroying the economy, eating soup made from leaves, being subjugated to Russia, having the government empowered to kick down your door for the crime of disloyalty to the regime, are worth trading so we can make sure that Pat in Who Gives a Fuck never takes so much as a free throw.

You really haven't been paying attention.

2 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Uh, swing on my some weekend and we'll take a ride through Philly.  Parts of Philly would make for a post-industrial/apocalyptic movie setting. 

There are extremes in most countries yea. I’ve been to districts in Paris and London for techno parties that are as dirty as anywhere I’ve been in the US.

9 minutes ago, wood said:

Welp. There you have it, y'all. If you're planning on visiting Mexico soon, you should expect the worst possible treatment.

I would expect to get fucked by a donkey.

Just now, MissingInAction said:

I would expect pay extra to get fucked by a donkey.

FIF you, in particular.

4 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

 

Tell me you haven’t been paying attention without saying you haven’t been dialed in on what’s afoot.

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32 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

It sounds like you’re saying that some laws are bullshit and should be selectively enforced. Namely those that you don’t agree with and Violators should be absolved of their crimes. 

 

 

This is literally what Trump is doing yes

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3 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

So I guess the President can now simply choose not to enforce any laws he doesn’t like. Let’s call it the TikTok principle. Democracy was nice, it’s such a shame to see it gone

 

his words or thoughts are the law !!!!

14 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

I would expect to get fucked by a donkey.

Go on ...

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

his words or thoughts are the law !!!!

"When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal, by definition."

"He who saves his Country does not violate any Law."

"L'État, c'est moi."

58 minutes ago, Helobious said:

 

No one there will give a shit and I have no idea what gaturbet’s friend is talking about. Trump is popular in Mexico (a little less so than the first time imo, but he’s still well liked) and they love American money. Nothing has changed. 

Link?  

below is from 2017

 

WASHINGTON — Mexicans dislike President Donald Trump. A lot.

According to a new poll, just 5 percent of Mexicans trust Trump’s judgment in international affairs. That’s the American leader’s lowest rating among citizens of more than three dozen nations polled earlier this year.

The survey released Thursday by the Pew Research Center said 93 percent of Mexicans had “no confidence in the U.S. president to do the right thing regarding world affairs.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/poll-93-percent-mexicans-no-confidence-donald-trump

 

 

Just now, Gil Bang said:

Link?  

below is from 2017

 

WASHINGTON — Mexicans dislike President Donald Trump. A lot.

According to a new poll, just 5 percent of Mexicans trust Trump’s judgment in international affairs. That’s the American leader’s lowest rating among citizens of more than three dozen nations polled earlier this year.

The survey released Thursday by the Pew Research Center said 93 percent of Mexicans had “no confidence in the U.S. president to do the right thing regarding world affairs.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/poll-93-percent-mexicans-no-confidence-donald-trump

 

 

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Forget it Gil, it's Helobious.

4 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Link?  

below is from 2017

 

WASHINGTON — Mexicans dislike President Donald Trump. A lot.

According to a new poll, just 5 percent of Mexicans trust Trump’s judgment in international affairs. That’s the American leader’s lowest rating among citizens of more than three dozen nations polled earlier this year.

The survey released Thursday by the Pew Research Center said 93 percent of Mexicans had “no confidence in the U.S. president to do the right thing regarding world affairs.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/poll-93-percent-mexicans-no-confidence-donald-trump

 

 

Lol at 1,000 respondents. Where they were from would make a huge difference as well. Mexico isn’t a monolith. My family down there (NL) says the views on trump mostly range from positive to agnostic.

46 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

I'm not in the "democracy is over" camp...yet.  I continue to say that this is the cartoon version of a fascist/oligarchical takeover of the U.S.  Yes, some actual, real shit is happening and there are some people who are actually being affected by the implementation of Trump's policies, but it's not over yet.  I fail to see how the President can shutter a federal agency (USAID) that has been funded by Congress, for example. That issue has yet to be fully taken up by the courts.  My tipping point will be either when SCOTUS openly forsakes the Constitution or if the President and executive branch refuse to abide by a court order. I foresee a lot of this shit being overturned and rolled back; most of it, actually. I also foresee inflation going up, jobs reports going more negative and the economy entering recession. The midterms are going to be a fucking bloodbath for the GOP and the Trumpanzee will be emasculated with two years to go.

*If* we have midterms, you mean

1 hour ago, Helobious said:

 

No one there will give a shit and I have no idea what gaturbet’s friend is talking about. Trump is popular in Mexico (a little less so than the first time imo, but he’s still well liked) and they love American money. Nothing has changed. 

So a little worse than his first time, huh. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/01/08/trump-ratings-remain-low-around-globe-while-views-of-u-s-stay-mostly-favorable/

Confidence in Trump remains low internationally

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1 minute ago, Helobious said:

Lol at 1,000 respondents. Where they were from would make a huge difference as well. Mexico isn’t a monolith. My family down there (NL) says the views on trump mostly range from positive to agnostic.

so, your family "down there" is a better sample than 1000 respondents? 

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Just now, Helobious said:

Lol at 1,000 respondents. Where they were from would make a huge difference as well. Mexico isn’t a monolith. My family down there (NL) says the views on trump mostly range from positive to agnostic.

Two things:

1) I'm actually proud that you read all the way through the article to see how the poll was conducted

2) Do you not know how polling is done? They don't literally ask everybody in Mexico what they think of Lord Dampnut.

5 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

so, your family "down there" is a better sample than 1000 respondents? 

They do be having big families 

6 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

so, your family "down there" is a better sample than 1000 respondents? 

Eh.. point taken I guess. 

Still, this all stemmed from wood thinking he wouldn’t be welcomed in Isla Mujeres because he’s American. Which is an absurd belief 

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1 hour ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

LMAO.  I just opened this.  Comments do not disappoint and I now love Ohioans.

But she seems to have a redeeming sense of humor, no?

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I’m sure her employer will understand

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