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3 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Next on the list is removing drag coefficient from all aerospace engineering textbooks.

oh no! Not my transitive proofs! How am I gonna build state machines now??

25 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

If polled, what percentage of respondents would respond that they have trust in our medical system? Financial system? Local, state, federal government? Which of those systems works to the benefit of the rich and powerful?

I have gratitude to the medical system, not disdain, for its handling of the Covid crisis. The legal system has shit the bed in the most disgusting manner imaginable as it enabled turnip’s return to power.

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10 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The more closed a loop is, the more quickly it collapses and fragile it becomes.

There is absolutely nothing since the advent of Fox News that shows this to be true.

7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

 

 

You forgot the middle part:

American Majority: YAY! libtears!

If you think loud pushback changes anything you’re delusional. Anytime dems are outspoken they lose support, period, regardless of what they do or say. If they had refused as a party to attend the speech they’d get crushed in the midterms as opposed to just loosing badly which is what’s gonna happen either way.

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1 minute ago, Willfully Horn said:

I have gratitude to the medical system, not disdain, for its handling the Covid crisis. The legal system has shit the bed in the most disgusting manner imaginable as it enabled turnip’s return to power.

I'm glad that you appreciate the medical systems handling of the Covid crisis. Did the legal system do okay keeping Trump from retaining power the first time? I'm happy to listen to your opinion on how the legal system shit the bed in the most disgusting manner imaginable enabling him to return to power. 

9 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Next on the list is removing drag coefficient from all aerospace engineering textbooks.

Transportation, transformers, transistors, and translations will all be illegal by next Tuesday.

2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Transportation, transformers, transistors, and translations will all be illegal by next Tuesday.

all ok. you make trans fat illegal? ....you will have a real problem with MAGA then

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2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Transportation, transformers, transistors, and translations will all be illegal by next Tuesday.

Hot Wheels has already banned Trans Siberian Orchestra from Texas.

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2 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Hot Wheels has already banned Trans Siberian Orchestra from Texas.

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I might be ok with that if I have to hear their song in November again.

6 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Transportation, transformers, transistors, and translations will all be illegal by next Tuesday.

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3 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Hot Wheels has already banned Trans Siberian Orchestra from Texas.

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I would rather torture myself by going to see Shen Yun.

21 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

I'm glad that you appreciate the medical systems handling of the Covid crisis. Did the legal system do okay keeping Trump from retaining power the first time? I'm happy to listen to your opinion on how the legal system shit the bed in the most disgusting manner imaginable enabling him to return to power. 

Jack Smith was appointed in 2023, and not in 2021.. Appeals in all of turnip’s cases were not handled as expeditiously as humanly possible. And a failed coup ringleader was allowed on ballots and was elected leader of the free world. 
 

Edited to say that the legal system performed less than admirably in the cases brought after the election of 2020. Sixty plus lawsuits? Outrageous. Torrent of lies, in effect, unchecked. Sure, turnip lost those cases, just as reasonable folks explaining fact counters any given propagandist lie. Cumulatively, the lie is believed.

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Just now, Willfully Horn said:

Jack Smith was appointed in 2023, and not in 2020. Appeals in all of turnip’s cases were not handled as expeditiously as humanly possible. And a failed coup ringleader was allowed on ballots and was elected leader of the free world. 

The Supreme Court gave Trump broad immunity for acts committed as President.

13 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Hot Wheels has already banned Trans Siberian Orchestra from Texas.

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Imagine what they'll do to all the fruity trust fund libs living out in Marfa and the surrounding Trans Pecos. 

29 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Next on the list is removing drag coefficient from all aerospace engineering textbooks.

What could go wrong?

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At least that plane wasn't WOKE.

8 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Jack Smith was appointed in 2023, and not in 2020. Appeals in all of turnip’s cases were not handled as expeditiously as humanly possible. And a failed coup ringleader was allowed on ballots and was elected leader of the free world

I think we can safely say that the US has yielded that title.  I never thought such a thing was possible.

12 minutes ago, royiv said:

The Supreme Court gave Trump broad immunity for acts committed as President.

Is SCOTUS not a part of the legal system? The broader legal community might have focused on that decision and made that the hill to die on while a rational person was POTUS.

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With the new war on Trans, gay, etc, cuz words are bad, rainbows are next. Out in Miramar and at Langley they are training how to shoot down rainbows.

Just like they did that chinese balloon.

7 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Is SCOTUS not a part of the legal system? The broader legal community might have focused on that decision and made that the hill to die on while a rational person was POTUS.

They don’t even have a code of ethics. The Buda Planning and Zoning Commission is more bound to conduct itself subject to the law than the Supreme Court.

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26 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Hot Wheels has already banned Trans Siberian Orchestra from Texas.

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Please don't give that asshole any ideas...

1 hour ago, royiv said:

I think you are understating reality. When it has been proven by actions that laws and the constitution that underlies them don’t have to be followed, I would posit that the entire legal profession has been turned on its head. Our judicial system is a joke and works to the benefit of the rich and powerful. If polled, what percentage of respondents would respond that they have trust in our legal system? I have lost all trust and I come from a family of attorneys, including a federal judge appointed by Truman.

That's fair.  Certainly wasn't up to prosecuting Trump.  Not like it would have made one tiny bit of difference.

2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

They don’t even have a code of ethics. The Buda Planning and Zoning Commission is more bound to conduct itself subject to the law than the Supreme Court.

How do you know I have issues with the Buda Planning and Zoning Commission, too?

16 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Jack Smith was appointed in 2023, and not in 2021.. Appeals in all of turnip’s cases were not handled as expeditiously as humanly possible. And a failed coup ringleader was allowed on ballots and was elected leader of the free world. 
 

Edited to say that the legal system performed less than admirably in the cases brought after the election of 2020. Sixty plus lawsuits? Outrageous. Torrent of lies, in effect, unchecked. Sure, turnip lost those cases, just as reasonable folks explaining fact counters any given propagandist lie. Cumulatively, the lie is believed.

I share the opinion Jack Smith should have been appointed in 2021 and not 2023. I'm not sure the end result changes, though. The part about the appeals not being handled fast enough isn't specific enough for me to comment, but I think we all wish the wheels of justice turned faster. In court, Trump was convicted of multiple felonies and found liable for sexual assault, so I tend to blame the American voters for electing the coup ringleader.

Regarding the edit: all the courts can do is rule on the cases brought, and as you point out, Trump lost those cases. The courts can't make people believe the truth instead of propaganda.

I appreciate you taking the time to rationally express your thoughts on the issue.

12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's fair.  Certainly wasn't up to prosecuting Trump.  Not like it would have made one tiny bit of difference.

A conviction that carried a finding of an act of insurrection would have absolutely made a difference, in that Calvinball would unequivocally be recognized as superior to the Constitution in the eyes of the current SCOTUS, assuming their immunity finding came down as it did. In that scenario, with months to go before the election, we might have been witness to impeachment proceedings of SCOTUS members.

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22 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Is SCOTUS not a part of the legal system? The broader legal community might have focused on that decision and made that the hill to die on while a rational person was POTUS.

It is. I was agreeing with you and putting another log on the fire. 

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11 hours ago, Gap03 said:

I think what you mean is that the Dems should market to the single-issue morons and the monsters of our society - unfortunately, the Rs have a monopoly on them, and they have to be fed with the type of malicious bullshit that we're seeing now, so uhhh ...

Very good posts, my friends.

These moronic and monster tendencies were already present, but it was Reagan and Rush who started galvanizing them into the malicious and self-righteous political force that they are today. Aside from wickedness, their strongest trait is their absurd level of confidence in their beliefs. 

Fuck Reagan and we should have buried Rush alive.

9 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

A conviction that carried a finding of an act of insurrection would have absolutely made a difference, in that Calvinball would unequivocally be recognized as superior to the Constitution in the eyes of the current SCOTUS, assuming their immunity finding came down as it did. In that scenario, with months to go before the election, we might have been witness to impeachment proceedings of SCOTUS members.

Well, even so, the appeals process would have prevented that from being final, both of the conviction itself and the disqualification. And, in the meantime, it would have made no difference.

Trump wanted the Declaration of Independence on display in the Oval.

Not a copy, the real fucking thing.

 

Gift link:

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But the president has also asked advisers in recent days about moving the Declaration of Independence into the Oval Office, according to people familiar with the conversations who requested anonymity to describe the planning.

Trump’s request alarmed some of his aides, who immediately recognized both the implausibility and the expense of moving the original document. Displayed in the rotunda at the National Archives Building, in Washington, D.C., it is perhaps the most treasured historical document in the U.S. government’s possession. The original is behind heavy glass in an oxygen-free, argon-filled case that can retract into the wall at night for security. Because of light damage to the faded animal-skin parchment, the room is kept dimly lit; restrictions have been placed on how often the doors can even be opened.   But to the relief of aides, subsequent discussions appear to have focused on the possibility of moving one of the historical copies of the document, not the original. 

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

No, but holding a majority coalition in such contempt and disdain is also symptomatic of why Democrats lose.

Good use of symptomatic. There are other symptoms as you allude.

The main reason we lost is that we're the minority. I don't know that I want to abandon contempt and disdain for the active and acquiescent who are responsible for where we are. I'm in the camp of those hoping for some element of that minority to awaken and act due to implosion. I don't see any winning strategy at the moment.

To be clear, I don't think what I've written is in disagreement with what you have written.

2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

He'd fucking sell it. And that would be poetry.

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, even so, the appeals process would have prevented that from being final, both of the conviction itself and the disqualification. And, in the meantime, it would have made no difference.

Are you saying that, in my fevered, what could have been, scenario, where there had been a conviction that found an act of insurrection was committed, that an appeal would have superseded the 14th Amendment?

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, even so, the appeals process would have prevented that from being final, both of the conviction itself and the disqualification. And, in the meantime, it would have made no difference.

Perfect example of why people have lost trust in the legal system. For those with the resources, the process can be prolonged as such to delay any real consequences.

11 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

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You think you understand humanity then you see people not using Surly dark mode and your worldview is shattered. 

He'd fucking sell it. And that would be poetry.

“It costs too much to maintain. So I’m ordering Elon to burn it in the fireplace.”
Just now, Red Five said:


“It costs too much to maintain. So I’m ordering Elon to burn it in the fireplace.”

Nah he'd cut it into small pieces and then sell it in his limited-edition trading cards.

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7 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

You think you understand humanity then you see people not using Surly dark mode and your worldview is shattered. 

I find it difficult to read. Not all eyes are perfect.

20 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Are you saying that, in my fevered, what could have been, scenario, where there had been a conviction that found an act of insurrection was committed, that an appeal would have superseded the 14th Amendment?

A conviction is not a conviction until it is final, meaning appeals are exhausted.

There would first have to have been a final conviction and then likely a civil proceeding challenging the application of the 14th Amendment.

That's about eight years worth of litigation in our system.

Nah he'd cut it into small pieces and then sell it in his limited-edition trading cards.
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This is…. actually possible. He definitely wanted it there for reasons that would terrify/enrage us, IMO.
25 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Trump wanted the Declaration of Independence on display in the Oval.

Not a copy, the real fucking thing.

If this timeline had been pitched to a Hollywood production company 20 years ago they would have laughed everyone out of the room.

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

A conviction is not a conviction until it is final, meaning appeals are exhausted.

There would first have to have been a final conviction and then likely a civil proceeding challenging the application of the 14th Amendment.

That's about eight years worth of litigation in our system.

Sigh. Well, as it pertains to an effective 14th Amendment:

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3 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Sigh. Well, as it pertains to an effective 14th Amendment:

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More than any other single thing, even the Supreme Court, the delay inherent to the system (even before you get to Trump's dilatory tactics), made it impossible to secure a final conviction, for anything, in the space of four years.

Note that his NY conviction is on appeal and is thus not yet final.

3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

More than any other single thing, even the Supreme Court, the delay inherent to the system (even before you get to Trump's dilatory tactics), made it impossible to secure a final conviction, for anything, in the space of four years.

Note that his NY conviction is on appeal and is thus not yet final.

Honest question for which I should probably know the answer:  is sentencing always delayed until the appeal process has been exhausted?

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 Scrambling to replace their health insurance and to find new work, some laid-off federal workers are running into another unexpected unpleasantry: Relatives cheering their firing.

The country’s bitterly tribal politics are spilling into text chains, social media posts and heated conversations as Americans absorb the reality of the government’s cost-cutting measures. Expecting sympathy, some axed workers are finding family and friends who instead are steadfast in their support of what they see as a bloated government’s waste.

“I’ve been treated as a public enemy by the government and now it’s bleeding into my own family,” says 24-year-old Luke Tobin, who was fired last month from his job as a technician with the U.S. Forest Service in Idaho’s Nez Perce National Forest.

 

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Tobin’s job loss sent him scurrying to fill prescriptions before he lost his health insurance and filling out dozens of applications to find whatever work he can, even if it’s at a fast-food restaurant. But some relatives reacting to his firing as “what has to happen to make the government great again” has been one of the worst parts of the entire ordeal.

“They can’t separate their ideology and their politics from supporting their own family and their own loved ones,” says Tobin.

Kristin Jenn got a similar response from members of her family after she learned the National Park Service ranger job she was due to start had been put on hold by the billionaire Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency hiring freeze. She thinks it’s likely the job will be eliminated altogether.

 

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As she has expressed her disappointment over potentially losing her dream job, some members of her mostly conservative family have unfriended her on social media. Others are giving her the silent treatment. Nearly all favor such cuts even if she’s a victim of them.

“My life is disintegrating because I can’t work in my chosen field,” says Jenn, 47, from Austin, Texas. “Lump on top of that no support from family – it hits you very hard.”

The strife has extended to Jenn’s mother, a former federal employee herself. When she has criticized the administration’s actions, her mother simply says she supports the president.

 

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“She has somehow been convinced that public servants are a parasite and unproductive even though she was a public servant,” says Jenn.

The federal job cuts are the work of DOGE, which has been tearing through agencies looking for suspected waste. No official tally of firings has been released, but the list stretches into the thousands and to nearly every part of the country.

More layoffs are expected as DOGE continues its work.

Eric Anderson, 48, of Chicago, was still absorbing the shock of being fired from his National Parks Service job as a biological science technician when he came across his aunt’s social media post celebrating the DOGE cuts. The gist, Anderson said, was, “Man, it sure is great seeing all this waste being knocked off.”

He grows angry thinking about it.

“Do you think I’m a waste?” he says, his voice rising as he recalls the post. “There are a lot of people out there that are hurting right now that are not a waste.”

Erica Stubbs, who was working as a forestry technician with the U.S. Forest Service in Boulder, Colorado, is avoiding social media after seeing hate for federal workers.

Though most people in her life have been supportive since she was fired, some have made passing comments about the necessity of eliminating jobs like hers.

“What they tell me is it’s just cutting out the waste, the excess spending — that your job’s not that important,” says 27-year-old Stubbs. “I’m not saying it’s the most important job in the world but it’s my job. It’s important to me.”

Social media is teeming with posts reveling the layoffs and urging DOGE: “Fire more!” In a fiercely divided country, many saw the cutbacks through their own political lens.

One man’s devastation, it turns out, can be another man’s delight.

Riley Rackliffe, who was working as an aquatic ecologist at Lake Mead National Recreation Area in Nevada, was buoyed that his firing led so many friends and relatives to reach out, offering to pass his resume along, call their congressman or even help with his mortgage.

Mixed with that, though, has been the vitriol.

When his firing made the local news, a Facebook posting of the story led to a storm of comments deriding him and championing the layoffs. One person called Riley, who is 36 and holds a Ph.D., a “glorified pool boy” whose job nearly anyone could do.

Even some of Rackliffe’s friends paired their expressions of consolation for Rackliffe with support for cutting jobs they contended were unnecessary government bloat.

“Hey, I’m sorry you lost your job but I think we really need to cut out some of this waste in the government,” Rackliffe said one friend texted him, saying he supported DOGE’s aims. “He basically said, ’We’ve got to do this. We’ve got to rip off the Band-Aid.”

What stings most, Rackliffe says, is the contention that people like him were lazy and worthless, collecting big paychecks for meaningless work.

“It’s really hurtful for the president to insinuate that you don’t exist or that your job consisted of sitting at home doing nothing and cashing the paycheck,” he says. “I’d like to see him sifting through spiny naiad in 120-degree weather looking for parasitic snails. He’s the one that goes golfing on the government dime. I don’t even know how to golf.”

 

 

 

This is a great breakdown of Trump and Project 2025

 

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2 minutes ago, wood said:

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Trump is doing a great job of creating a groundswell of Canadian national pride. Dare I say that he’s Making Canada Great Again? He’s even doing a great job with the MEGA movement over in Europe.

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Trump wanted the Declaration of Independence on display in the Oval.

Not a copy, the real fucking thing.

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50 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

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“It’s really hurtful for the president to insinuate that you don’t exist or that your job consisted of sitting at home doing nothing and cashing the paycheck,” he says. “I’d like to see him sifting through spiny naiad in 120-degree weather looking for parasitic snails. He’s the one that goes golfing on the government dime. I don’t even know how to golf.”

Exactly. I'd like to see the golfer's reaction to a giant Slor! Many MAGA and MUSKS will know what it is to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

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