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53 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:


You keep carrying on about bets but that’s just a distraction from the fact that a man was legally living in America, married to a woman who is a U.S. citizen, father to an Autistic child who is also a U.S. citizen, and he was deported by the U.S. government to a prison in a different country that we have no control over, without notice or due process, and even though our government admits it was a mistake, they then tried to say he might be a gang member because he wore a Chicago Bulls hoodie, as if that somehow justifies their mistake, and their general attitude is sorry not sorry.

Even if you are somehow right and this man eventually gets returned to his family in the U.S., the fact this happened in the first place is scary and shows how far America has fallen.

Quit talking about bets. Bets usually have a winner and a loser but this situation only has losers. There is no outcome that would make the people in this discussion feel remotely good about any of it.

These are not deportation. “Deportation” refers to a specific process by which an immigrant gets a hearing in front of an immigration judge and if they are not qualified to stay in America are returned to their country of origin.

These are kidnappings and illegal imprisonment performed under the color of law.

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

I can't tell if ojo is trolling or just a complete fucking idiot. 

He's just repeating whatever Grok is telling him

6 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

These are kidnappings and illegal imprisonment performed under the color of law.

QFFT.

That's it.

20 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

My husband and I are looking to get a couple Glocks. We have a shotgun already. I’m not a gun guy, but through some research found that a Glock is a good beginner gun 

if you are not gun people, my only recommendation is to choose a caliber and weapon that does not have a ton of recoil. 

And often people are not as familiar with a semi-automatic, and working the slide is hard for some people.  My recommendation is to get a Ruger LCR revolver in .327.    this will go against the grain of many people here, but I don’t think I need to go against the entire zombie nation, I most likely will need to defend my home against intruders looking to steal stuff.

That Ruger revolver means you can shoot the very effective and powerful .327 cartridge, but also 32 magnum 32 regular and 32 short.   You will be able to find a cartridge that you can manage without flinching.   Being accurate and placing your shots is far more important than having some hand cannon that you can’t hit what you were aiming at.

Lastly, a revolver is as uncomplicated as it gets and is a reliable weapon.  I’m an older guy and so I love me some wheel guns.   My final suggestion would be that when you purchase them, you take them to a gun range and find out which ammo caliber and brands your gun likes and you like. When you find the right ammunition that you will be using for self protection, make sure you practice at the range with that exact ammunition. You need to be comfortable and proficient firing your gun.    

Anything less than being comfortable and skilled is a danger to you and a danger to others.  if you ever need to use it, you do not want to be nervous and unfamiliar with using it. 

Good luck.   

 

18 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

so now that we're all talking about getting guns, how soon before this admin makes ammo illegal?

That would honestly be a pretty funny rug pull

59 minutes ago, freyguy said:

I guess this proves that there is no "deep state" controlling everything, and that we are being run by a group of disorganized sociopaths.

If there was a deep state, Trump would have been off'd a long ass time ago. 

45 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Not the system per se, but definitely some of the actors.

The system is its actors.

Not a lawyer, not even close, but a bunch of you guys are.  Help me understand or give some clarity.   If they come get me off the street(say it’s the student from up in the NE).   They then fly me blindfolded to Lake Charles or Alvarado(these are the two big facilities I’m aware of).  So they are saying they are detained in Louisiana or Texas and not where they are taken?   So what’s the period called where you’re taken off the street and flown to a final destination?   How is that not kidnapping?   
 

Absolutely fucking wild!  And of course Kasmerick sits as a fed judge in Texas.  They want friendly judges who support this shit 

1 minute ago, HalfSack Horn said:

Not a lawyer, not even close, but a bunch of you guys are.  Help me understand or give some clarity.   If they come get me off the street(say it’s the student from up in the NE).   They then fly me blindfolded to Lake Charles or Alvarado(these are the two big facilities I’m aware of).  So they are saying they are detained in Louisiana or Texas and not where they are taken?   So what’s the period called where you’re taken off the street and flown to a final destination?   How is that not kidnapping?   
 

Absolutely fucking wild!  And of course Kasmerick sits as a fed judge in Texas.  They want friendly judges who support this shit 

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Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

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I get that, mine too.  But how is it legal to call Texas or Louisiana where everyone is detained.  If they cuff me, they are detaining me right then and there, correct?

 

fuck this - brisket is 10000% correct.  Blood is going to happen when anyone tries to detain anyone now.

I honestly don't understand what nuance you're looking for here. it's kidnapping and disappearing of american citizens. there is no spin here. none of this is legal.

8 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I honestly don't understand what nuance you're looking for here. it's kidnapping and disappearing of american citizens. there is no spin here. none of this is legal.

 "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal." - Tricky Dick

@Wally Fairway Corruption and authoritarianism have been at the heart of America’s modern conservative movement my entire life, as attested to by this asshole who was president when I was born.

2 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Non-histrionicism?

It's sad that a guy with some faith in the system gets insulted and shouted down like this. No dissenting opinions allowed? Sounds familiar. I haven't lost all hope yet, and for good reason.  None of this shit has played out, despite what anyone says. If all of you really believed that the Republic was dead, why haven't you done something?  I mean, something other than lament it on the internet. If the courts abandon the Constitution and bend the knee or if Trump Co. openly violates a final court order, then I'll believe it's over.

I was where you are now back during Trump's first term and while the wheels of justice slowly ground to a halt during Biden's term.

I'm now fully out on Brisket's ledge.

I don't think it's nuance as much as people are trying to make sense of the potential logistics of it all.  So you're stopped on the street, put in cuffs, and stuffed into a van.  After that, I assume you're blindfolded and either taken to a random holding facility or straight to the airport.  Is it there where someone tells you "I hope you told your family you loved them this morning because you'll never see them again.  You're going to a South American torture prison where you will eventually die." 

Or do they take a page from the family separators at the border and lie the way ICE told parents that their kids would be returned to them after a medical evaluation?  

I'm not sure what exactly is gained from this clarification, but it's a mind-boggling series of events that we're witnessing and will likely need to explain to our kids someday.

Domestic beach tourism will drop this summer when people realize how dangerous being brown is now. 

Only half kidding. 

4 minutes ago, Todd Gack said:

and will likely need to explain to our kids someday.

Oh to be so lucky to work at the same iPhone screw turning plant as your children. 

19 minutes ago, Todd Gack said:

I don't think it's nuance as much as people are trying to make sense of the potential logistics of it all.  So you're stopped on the street, put in cuffs, and stuffed into a van.  After that, I assume you're blindfolded and either taken to a random holding facility or straight to the airport.  Is it there where someone tells you "I hope you told your family you loved them this morning because you'll never see them again.  You're going to a South American torture prison where you will eventually die." 

Or do they take a page from the family separators at the border and lie the way ICE told parents that their kids would be returned to them after a medical evaluation?  

I'm not sure what exactly is gained from this clarification, but it's a mind-boggling series of events that we're witnessing and will likely need to explain to our kids someday.

From what's been reported, they don't tell the people they kidnap where they're taking them or give them the opportunity to contact anyone. The only practical way for anyone who has been detained to file a habeas petition is for a friend or family member to know that they've been taken and hire a lawyer for them. If you're kidnapped, you have no way of knowing where you and you have no way of hiring an attorney for yourself. 

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

if you are not gun people, my only recommendation is to choose a caliber and weapon that does not have a ton of recoil. 

 

Fuck that. Go big or go home:

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2 hours ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

I am starting to believe that the reason the administration is fighting so hard not to return this guy is because he is dead. 

No other position makes sense.  Normalcy would dictate that you would want to correct an obvious wrong if you could.  They cant because the dude is dead.

in 20 years we'll have the premiere of 'Rendition 2: Orange Boogaloo'.

if all of Hollywood hasn't been executed/imprisoned/burned down.

9 minutes ago, softlynow said:

Fuck that. Go big or go home:

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Now that's what I'm talking about, the noisy cricket, am I right? 

9 minutes ago, mchookem said:

in 20 years we'll have the premiere of 'Rendition 2: Orange Boogaloo'.

if all of Hollywood hasn't been executed/imprisoned/burned down.

Dinesh D’Souzaphone is available to direct it. 

3 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Non-histrionicism?

It's sad that a guy with some faith in the system gets insulted and shouted down like this. No dissenting opinions allowed? Sounds familiar. I haven't lost all hope yet, and for good reason.  None of this shit has played out, despite what anyone says. If all of you really believed that the Republic was dead, why haven't you done something?  I mean, something other than lament it on the internet. If the courts abandon the Constitution and bend the knee or if Trump Co. openly violates a final court order, then I'll believe it's over.

Last I looked, all of your posts are still up for all to see. So yes, dissenting opinions are allowed. People telling you what they think of your opinions, also allowed.  Which means this site is currently one up on the USA as far as free speech goes. 

51 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Domestic beach tourism will drop this summer when people realize how dangerous being brown is now. 

Only half kidding. 

Myrtle Beach wasn’t all that anyways. 
 

I keeed I keeeed

18 minutes ago, softlynow said:

Fuck that. Go big or go home:

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Edit: dammit Pato!

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1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

Domestic beach tourism will drop this summer when people realize how dangerous being brown is now. 

Only half kidding. 

Also because people are poor. I’ve already seen a decrease in the Walmart people type tourists on Maui

13 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

I’ve already seen a decrease in the Walmart people type tourists on Maui

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4 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Non-histrionicism?

It's sad that a guy with some faith in the system gets insulted and shouted down like this. No dissenting opinions allowed? Sounds familiar. I haven't lost all hope yet, and for good reason.  None of this shit has played out, despite what anyone says. If all of you really believed that the Republic was dead, why haven't you done something?  I mean, something other than lament it on the internet. If the courts abandon the Constitution and bend the knee or if Trump Co. openly violates a final court order, then I'll believe it's over.

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3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

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Surprising influx of Canadians too. Guess do it while you still can type of thing.

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Roberts court hasn’t broken any norms by their complete acquiescence to the orange god king

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

From what's been reported, they don't tell the people they kidnap where they're taking them or give them the opportunity to contact anyone. The only practical way for anyone who has been detained to file a habeas petition is for a friend or family member to know that they've been taken and hire a lawyer for them. If you're kidnapped, you have no way of knowing where you and you have no way of hiring an attorney for yourself. 

This is true. Traditionally, they would be arrested, given an initial detention hearing and if determined to be a non-citizen with no asylum claim or other legal reason to be in the country, they are then given the option of voluntarily departing or requesting a deportation hearing.  If they voluntarily depart, its isn't a federal offense to reenter the country. If they force a deportation hearing and are ultimately deported, it is a federal offense for them to return to the US and IIRC it's a 5 year max.  The alien would have counsel at every stage. Counsel would communicate with family to let them know what was happening and where there family member was being detained. Trump is bypassing every constitutional protection for the accused.  Really fucked up shit. For those who think this will all work out, it won't.  We arrested a man without a warrant signed by a neutral magistrate, imprisoned him, denied him counsel and sent him to a gulag in a county other than his country of origin.  Now the Justice Department is admitting they did all of those things but is claiming they cant do anything about its and will leave him there to rot.  They've basically said that even if he were a US citizen it wouldn't change the fact that they are now powerless to retrieve him or have him released. 

5 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

Until a white female is sent off to El Salvador by mistake, people won’t give a shit IMO.

Too busy getting caught up with the clown show and watching their 401K

I mean......

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There was no explanation, no warning. One minute, I was in an immigration office talking to an officer about my work visa, which had been approved months before and allowed me, a Canadian, to work in the US. The next, I was told to put my hands against the wall, and patted down like a criminal before being sent to an Ice detention center without the chance to talk to a lawyer.

 

6 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

 

TIL the libs of TikTok person is a chick. Somehow that makes it even more evil. 

14 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

TIL the libs of TikTok person is a chick. Somehow that makes it even more evil. 

Wait until you hear how the head of education for the State of Oklahoma has placed her on some blue ribbon committee for school curriculum or some other shit.

If you Paul Weiss/Columbia yourself you’ll never win. Our institutions need to find some intestinal fortitude and fight back. 
 

 

I’m sure @Ojo Rojo can tie himself in knots to say how Roberts didn’t give Trump carte blanche on disappearing people. But he would be wrong. #magicalthinking #habeuscorpus 

 

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NSIAP.  And to the morons who think that there's somehow due process rights that will be granted going forward, when they're detaining even the lawyers for people being kidnapped under color of law, then how the fuck is there really any chance of getting before a court?

 

 

10 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

TIL the libs of TikTok person is a chick. Somehow that makes it even more evil. 

 

9 hours ago, bolverk said:

Wait until you hear how the head of education for the State of Oklahoma has placed her on some blue ribbon committee for school curriculum or some other shit.

TIL (after reading an article about her and the account) that she was a real estate agent. The simulation decided to stick with the plan on that one, lol.

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Man, y'all even remember two weeks ago when Signalgate was one of the most blatantly stupid actions of the Trump administration, and someone was going to have to face accountability, for realz this time? Such simpler times.

7 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Man, y'all even remember two weeks ago when Signalgate was one of the most blatantly stupid actions of the Trump administration, and someone was going to have to face accountability, for realz this time? Such simpler times.

Maybe Laura Loomer can brush up on international trade policy, go suck dotard's dick, and end this stupid tariff war.

4 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Maybe Laura Loomer can brush up on international trade policy, go suck dotard's dick, and end this stupid tariff war.


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4 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Maybe Laura Loomer can brush up on international trade policy, go suck dotard's dick, and end this stupid tariff war.

That or Elon Musk handing Donald $100B cash in a Scrooge McDuck swimming pool. Legitimately might be our best two options.

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It seems so long since Roe v Wade was overturned, but here is a reminder of how evil that shit is. Remember how the anti-abortion freaks would put up those giant billboards of aborted fetuses in front of Gregory? Well, I just saw the reverse. A baby that should have never been born, with a condition incompatible with life, due to the mother being unable to get an abortion.

In addition to being financially ruined, the mother will be forced to watch her horribly disfigured, mentally non-functional child suffer until what is hopefully an early death. I can't share the inage but it's fucking nightmare fuel. Republicans just out there protecting women and babies.

24 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Man, y'all even remember two weeks ago when Signalgate was one of the most blatantly stupid actions of the Trump administration, and someone was going to have to face accountability, for realz this time? Such simpler times.

"It’s so confusing isn’t it? So much going wrong, so much to say, and all of it happening so quickly. The pace of oppression outstrips our ability to understand it. And that is the real trick of the Imperial thought machine. It's easier to hide behind 40 atrocities than a single incident."

14 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

In addition to being financially ruined, the mother will be forced to watch her horribly disfigured, mentally non-functional child suffer until what is hopefully an early death. 

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