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29 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

If Trump does not win the Nobel Peace Prize, I am certain he will create a new World Peace Prize and award it to himself.

When it happens you can say you heard about it here first.

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54 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

If Trump does not win the Nobel Peace Prize, I am certain he will create a new World Peace Prize and award it to himself.

When it happens you can say you heard about it here first.

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Going to take a step back from my comment about Venezuela. I did not see the Iwo Amphibian group was also going off the coast. Yeah, we are going to take Maracaibo. Or threaten. 

The deployment of the Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group and 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit gives the US the capability to attack targets on land — a much different specialty than that possessed by the nimble Coast Guard cutters and high-speed boats that normally intercept South American cocaine.

 

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25 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

How can these reporters just sit there and let these people spew these blatant lies? They are complicit in what is going on

Asking for a clarification of whether the obvious blatant intentional lie is what they meant to say is not pushing back against the obvious blatant intentional lie. It’s just giving them another chance to say it.

29 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

How can these reporters just sit there and let these people spew these blatant lies? They are complicit in what is going on

They’re too concerned with appearing biased toward the left.  Huge pussies they are.

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37 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


Pure gaslighting as national policy.

I was in LA the week that shit unfolded. The idea that the city was in any way at risk is laughable. We explored Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo, and literally the only protest we witnessed was a few old ladies peacefully holding anti-ICE signs outside of a Ralph’s in Venice. 

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7 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

I was in LA the week that shit unfolded. The idea that the city was in any way at risk is laughable. We explored Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo, and literally the only protest we witnessed was a few old ladies peacefully holding anti-ICE signs outside of a Ralph’s in Venice. 


And that’s what the reporter should be pushing back on. The Trumpian Lies, daring to be questioned. It’s your job to fucking question it bitch, and at this point your only job.

26 minutes ago, South Austin said:

They’re too concerned with appearing biased toward the left.  Huge pussies they are.

In fairness, it's a defining strategy of fascism: control the message by accusing everyone of being unfair and claiming a mountain of grievances. That puts outlets that act in good faith on the back heel, as no impartial coverage would EVER satisfy their propaganda requirements.

It's why they're attacking Wikipedia for fucks sake

"Why do you insist on telling such obvious lies?" should have been the theme of the rest of that interview. "Do you think the American people are really that stupid?"

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8 minutes ago, Red Five said:

"Do you think the American people are really that stupid?"

"well they voted us in didn't they??"

Going to take a step back from my comment about Venezuela. I did not see the Iwo Amphibian group was also going off the coast. Yeah, we are going to take Maracaibo. Or threaten. 
The deployment of the Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group and 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit gives the US the capability to attack targets on land — a much different specialty than that possessed by the nimble Coast Guard cutters and high-speed boats that normally intercept South American cocaine.
 

Or taco.

There will be a threat with no follow through. We will spend a shit ton of money to have the whole ARG go down there, and then come back, just for show.

The only result will be that tfg and the US by extension has just a little less credibility.
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Or taco.

There will be a threat with no follow through. We will spend a shit ton of money to have the whole ARG go down there, and then come back, just for show.

The only result will be that tfg and the US by extension has just a little less credibility.

Sec Def will fuck up and we end up invading Puerto Rico.

3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Sec Def will fuck up and we end up invading Puerto Rico.

And naming it Trump island after its discoverer.  (Future textbooks)

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50 minutes ago, Red Five said:

"Why do you insist on telling such obvious lies?" should have been the theme of the rest of that interview. "Do you think the American people are really that stupid?"

 

the dumbest people alive 

7 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

Looks like college football is a hotbed for MAGA fascists and medievalists.

No surprise and one of the reasons I lost nearly all my interest in UT football. 

Same. I realized yesterday as I watched OSU’s defense humiliate Arch and Sark that I just don’t give a shit anymore. College football is morphing into some weird fascist bread and circus cultural celebration.

And the massive amount universities and alumni spend to support the football teams (rather than academics) is perfectly symbolic of how fucked up American culture has become. We are not a serious country. 

27 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

Looks like college football is a hotbed for MAGA fascists and medievalists.

No surprise in Trump's America .... and one of the reasons I lost nearly all my interest in UT football. 

When star QBs are openly MAGA-fascist (and doing Trump dances in games) and the celebs on the sideline, like Clemens, are openly fascist, along with Hot Wheels, then I am out!! I don't give a shit if one is named Manning. Fuck'em.

I know that view is heretical here at Surly, but I just do not care about football or hardly any sports in general (used to be big tennis fan) .... when MAGA nation is dragging secular-scientific civilization backward by centuries into medievalism. Just sayin'

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There is no way the WWE fans skew to the left.   Just no fucking way.  

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Weird that he went all out for Pete Rose in the Hall, and now Roger Clemens, but not Barry Bonds. That's really curious and I can't for the life of me think of one reason why.

29 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

And the massive amount universities and alumni spend to support the football teams (rather than academics) is perfectly symbolic of how fucked up American culture has become. We are not a serious country. 

This has troubled me for quite some time.  It's worse at the college level because it seems to pit academics directly against athletics, but may be more exaggerated at the pro sports level because shit's so expensive.

Pete rose is still not in the hall of fame.  I’m surprised Donald doesn’t know that and keep railing about it. 

18 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

There is no way the WWE fans skew to the left.   Just no fucking way.  

That must be a relic of papa whiskey tango fans that now trend Trump.

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12 minutes ago, Pancho said:

This reads like an intern who tried to write like Fat Boy and not something that Fat Boy actually posted himself

I am curious if it's a shitty LLM that's been fine tuned on trump rhetoric. Lord knows there's enough posts out there to build a dataset

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11 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

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I fucking hate our media so much. "You've been so hard on Trump! You call him names, like President Bone Spurs, only because he never served! Would he ever call someone else names??" 

13 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

Spot on. Let me add the other turn offs ...

-- flyovers by military jet fighters and bombers.

-- giant US flags in a lot of games

-- overall militarization of football sets stage for militarization of cities 

-- far too much patriotism and nationalism ... 

-- idiotic herd and tribal behavior in wearing the school colors. (I have two degrees from UT and have worn just 2-3 pieces of longhorn gear. Baseball caps for jogging and tennis, the last one was over 20 years ago).

-- obscene prices for drinks and snacks

-- screens with loud and annoying ads everywhere

-- extra loud PA announcers.

-- the list goes on... 

-- Bevo Blvd is true bread and circuses.

-- Add on the obvious fascism and Idiocracy and I am out.

 

I have had the cost and spending issue on my mind for a long time now.  PBS specials back in the day on the original intent of the NCAA basically being to deny workman's comp to college athletes was part of the awakening.  Then other things about how (at the time) college players weren't being paid while their coaches raked in millions.  Was it Colbert or Stewart or maybe John Oliver who did a bit on the Final Four.  Probably Oliver.  Anyway it was enlightening as well at the time.   I guess some of that is evening up with things now(?)  But just on a basic level the millions for athletics while students go into great debt bothers me immensely.  That and when I cut cable years ago led to me barely paying attention.  I liked too many posters on surly to ever totally quit it, but the sports boards are my least visited boards.  Tuned in yesterday though.  

The NFL has its own issues and all of that militarization and nationalism seems to be present in it and in MLB.  Good lord the 'god bless america' thing in MLB.  Ugh.  And its all toys for billionaires who are the problem in this world.  Have not watched an NBA game in forever so can't speak to it.  But you're right, seeing it at the college level is something else.  

All of that said we are of course desperate for entertainment and things to discuss for fun.  There is a built in camaraderie among sports fans.  Perhaps even more so among alumni.  The social aspect I sometimes absolutely miss.   And the feats that these athletes perform at times are truly astounding to watch. There  is also that dangerous cozy blanket of nostalgia always at play.   For a few hours you try not to worry about the end of the world.  And mute the damn commercials.

 

I watched the UT/OSU game on mute while playing Balatro and it was the best viewing experience I've had in years. 

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(Smiling)”yes, next question”

48 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

There is no way the WWE fans skew to the left.   Just no fucking way.  

I don’t follow WWE specifically (and really never have). But I am a fan of local indie wrestling. My sense is the fanbase has evolved since kayfabe died.

It used to be that wrestling shows were chock full of yokels who thought it was real. There were a few smart fans who were in on the gag (so-called “smarks” in wrestling lingo) and there to enjoy the show with tongue firmly in cheek. But they weren’t the majority. 

These days, the crowd is all smarks. Everyone knows it’s fake. The secret is out. So the fans who are looking for real combat now go to shit like UFC, which skews right.

In my experience, modern wrestling crowds are pretty diverse and open-minded. The promotion in Austin hosts drag shows every so often and openly supports the LGBTQ community. (Okay, it’s Austin. But still…) People don’t go to wrestling for fights; they go to watch performance art. 

8 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

I don’t follow WWE specifically (and really never have). But I am a fan of local indie wrestling. My sense is the fanbase has evolved since kayfabe died.

Did kayfabe die or just transfer to right-wing politics? 

 

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3 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Sec Def will fuck up and we end up invading Puerto Rico.

You hear this in a Signal chat?

22 minutes ago, Pancho said:

So the scuttlebutt is Fat Boy is at Walter Reed, and I wouldn’t be surprised

Is the scuttlebutt in the room with us right now?

2 minutes ago, GenXer said:

You hear this in a Signal chat?

To be fair, it wasn't that specific.  He just said "We're totally gonna invade one of those mexican countries."

15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

To be fair, it wasn't that specific.  He just said "We're totally gonna invade one of those mexican countries."

There’s still three of them, right?

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Yup right next to Arch’s passes from yesterday 

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I can love UT football and hate dotard/MAGA at the same fucking time thank you. 
 

 

Reading between the lines, Rudy was cruising for streetwalkers last night, stopped a couple of times to speak with them, found one he liked, tried to lowball her and then her pimp beat the fuck out of him.

 

58 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I fucking hate our media so much. "You've been so hard on Trump! You call him names, like President Bone Spurs, only because he never served! Would he ever call someone else names??" 

If she ever got the nerve to ask Trump that question, he’d probably respond with, fuck you.

 

WWE wrestling is blue?

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