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i like how he says, “i stormed the capitol.” didn’t they all insist it was a peaceful protest? oh well, gene pool just got a little stronger:
january 6th rioter is the epitome of a loser. these are the very morons who see themselves as patriots, the same room temperature iq mongoloids who put trump, elon, and putin in power here in the USA. fuck em all. 

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26 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Assuming fact not in evidence 

He is the dumbass I tagged a few years ago in a post here and he replied as usual and then bitched to immac cause he had asked him to take him off this board. Just another loser that can’t control himself. 

1 hour ago, Ag with kids said:

Please explain how you would do it so that the largest amount of people get representation from representatives that share their policy beliefs that does not use any kind of political party as a proxy.

I’ll bite.  And this is absolutely crazy talk now, mind you….. but maybe through the electoral process the voters vote for candidates who most share their morals and interests and political philosophies on issues.  And then those elected officials selected through the electoral process want to get elected again, and lean toward voting in Congress in a way that the electorate likes. Wacky, I know. 

11 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


Dumber than a sack of hammers.

Being a little harsh on Derka aren’t you? 

On 2/27/2025 at 7:34 AM, Bozo_Casanova said:

I already answered that- because “local interests often (or usually, really) transcend national party alignment.” People who live in the same community of interest generally agree on the major local economic and social issues, irrespective of their views on national political issues. 

For example, most voters in the Big Country, regardless of party, agree that orphaned oil wells are a problem. 

Different elections, different electorates. 

You do realize that the apportionment for federal offices, state offices, and local offices can be different, right?

 

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This is precisely the question you leave begging. Why should it match when the issues faced by the nation or state as a whole do not encompass or reflect the interests of local communities in their interactions with the rest of the state and nation?

That’s the question you’ve been refusing to respond to for 20 years. “Why should they match?” In response,  you just continue chanting your mantra, “they should match.”

Then, please explain exactly how you would apportion representation at the federal, state, and local levels without any reference to political parties/policies/platforms as a proxy for the representation.

17 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I’ll bite.  And this is absolutely crazy talk now, mind you….. but maybe through the electoral process the voters vote for candidates who most share their morals and interests and political philosophies on issues.  And then those elected officials selected through the electoral process want to get elected again, and lean toward voting in Congress in a way that the electorate likes. Wacky, I know. 

Yeah.

And amazingly, that methodology will closely align by party.

Since you can't do the apportionment based on individual candidates for every single election in every single district/precinct/etc.

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

You smooth brain Aggy.  Before one more word passes your stupid typing fingers to this board, explain how you are going to change the constitution to implement your stupid plan that understands nothing about the entire concept of democracy as enshrined in our constitution?

And you are apparently still don’t understand what gerrymandering is. Gerrymandering is NOT people who support one party more in a particular geographic area voting for that party.  

Nobody gives a shit what you want - when what you want is patently unconstitutional, and there is zero chance for this country voting for a constitutional amendment to enact the essence of stupid idea that you love so much.   

The reason you don’t get this is because you think everyone should vote for their team, not issues or policies. For instance, you could have a Republican congressman, supporting Ukraine and the dip shit orange traitor taking the anti-Ukraine position.   NOTHING about that factual scenario means that everyone in the state should vote for the same team just because the two candidates have a GOP next to their name.    

How did you pass high school civics?

Do you even understand federalism and how representatives work?

Because it appears you don't.  You're trying to get the representation to be as close as possible to the views of the constituents.  Parties as proxies tend to yield a good correlation.  Can you name a better proxy to get the representation of the area closer to the makeup of the electorate?

Nobody has posted funny shaped California districts yet. Do that you gerrymandering sluts

1 hour ago, Ag with kids said:

You do realize that the apportionment for federal offices, state offices, and local offices can be different, right?

You do realize that we are talking about redistricting in partisan legislative elections, right? 

 

1 hour ago, Ag with kids said:

Then, please explain exactly how you would apportion representation at the federal, state, and local levels without any reference to political parties/policies/platforms as a proxy for the representation.

Perhaps you don't realize that in many states partisan consideration is explicitly banned by law. In those states, they attempt to build compact districts of equal size around spacial, social, and economic communities of interest (AKA, "places").
 

 

56 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Do you even understand federalism and how representatives work?

Because it appears you don't.  You're trying to get the representation to be as close as possible to the views of the constituents.  Parties as proxies tend to yield a good correlation.  Can you name a better proxy to get the representation of the area closer to the makeup of the electorate?

Again, you're begging the question. It appears to yield a pretty horrible correlation, because the "areas" aren't actual places or communities but shapes drawn and curated to reenforce the  position of the dominant national political party in that state.

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Motherfuckers don’t remember Helsinki.

Dotard is putin’s bitch. This is old news.

 

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Those seem fake... 

"I voted for you...." 

2 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Nobody has posted funny shaped California districts yet. Do that you gerrymandering sluts

Plus, I already posted how California draws their districts and not a single fucking one of you could tell me how that was so fucking unfair.  

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34 minutes ago, Slacks said:

Those seem fake... 

"I voted for you...." 

This is a basic requirement for any MAGA voter debasing themselves by criticizing the orange God-King.   Otherwise they will be jumped on by everybody on the forum as a commie Libtard.    

3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

How you thought this would be perceived is not how it is perceived.    Plus, I already posted how California draws their districts and not a single fucking one of you could tell me how that was so fucking unfair.   Typical magat, ignore evidence repeat the lie.   Your Nazi brethren would be proud of you.  

Jesus Christ you jump to conclusions. I dont think California is gerrymandered much and it’s because of the shapes and compactness. The post was an effort to have Ag w Kids show us something that looks sketch.

Great to know I’m both a magat and Nazi when I was the single biggest pumper for the Joe Biden economy and presidency. The only thing that stopped me from voting for Kamala was the US Postal service and an incompetent Travis Co Clerk office.

@StassneyHorn  You are correct, I am wrong.  Pissy mood doesn't excuse my projection.   I am sorry.  

AwK has demonstrated he doesn't give a shit about facts/truth and he ran away when he was asked for clarity or challenged to talk about something.  While he has no obligation to respond, in a discussion forum, just posting lies and running away is not really cool.    

 

6 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Noble Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman points out that nowhere are children more at risk from the proposed “savage” Medicaid cuts than in West Virginia, a state that voted overwhelmingly for President Trump — and where Medicaid provides health insurance for an astonishing 45% of children, the highest figure in the country. Doubling down on his idea that the cuts are savage, Krugman’s article addressing the Republican authorization is titled Cruel and Unusual.

Krugman writes of what he characterizes as a perception among conservatives — especially MAGA conservatives — that they can “safely target [Medicaid] for cuts, because it’s mainly a program for inner city people of color. But that was never as true as people imagined and is definitely not true now. Again, consider West Virginia. It’s one of America’s most rural states and overwhelmingly — 90 percent — white. Yet as we’ve seen, it’s deeply dependent on Medicaid.”

 

 

So, they voted to cut something they were taking based on the perception that other darker skinned individuals were also receiving.  This one's gonna sting, probably a lot harder than the darker skinned individuals that also have access to more jobs since they, checks notes, live in a city.  Should have checked their racism at the door, but that meant more than their children.  

3 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Nobody has posted funny shaped California districts yet. Do that you gerrymandering sluts

I've pointed out that CA votes much less Democratic than their districts are drawn.

 

Apparently, they have lots more "communities of interest" that the citizens of the state don't realize they need.

2 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

I've pointed out that CA votes much less Democratic than their districts are drawn.

So? Different elections, different electorate. How about you answer the question you've been ducking for 20 years?

 

2 hours ago, Nivek said:

Plus, I already posted how California draws their districts and not a single fucking one of you could tell me how that was so fucking unfair.  

I posted earlier that CA has gerrymandered their political districts to be 83% Democratic for Congress even though the state as a whole voted only 59% Democratic for POTUS.

Would you find it fair if Texas did the same for the GOP?  I lived in Parker County for 20 years.  It was about 85% Republican.  That was the county "community of interest".

So, why not make the entire state of Texas mirror that? 

Bozo would call that a great way to represent the "communities of interest".

5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

So? Different elections, different electorate. How about you answer the question you've been ducking for 20 years?

 

I've answered your fucking question numerous times over the past 20 years.

I'm sorry you haven't likedmy answer.

Can't help you there.

 

When you're not doing DIRECT DEMOCRACY (which is a HORRIBAD idea), you have to try to find the highest correlation between citizen political views and representative political policies.  Sucks that parties tend to fill that criteria, but here we are.

31 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

So? Different elections, different electorate. How about you answer the question you've been ducking for 20 years?

 

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Here's a Venn diagram that is representative of the various "communities of interest" in generic state/county/city/rural area X.

 

Tell me your plan to apportion each state/county/city/rural area to ensure that the majority of each state/county/city/rural area of generic state X gets representation that most closely aligns with their views.

 

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Motherfuckers don’t remember Helsinki.

Dotard is putin’s bitch. This is old news.

 

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Really, doesn't this look like the aftermath of the most brutal facefucking scene on pornhub?  Somehow they cleaned Trump up in a real hurry and didn't get any jizz on his suit.

3 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

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Here's a Venn diagram that is representative of the various "communities of interest" in generic state/county/city/rural area X.

 

Tell me your plan to apportion each state/county/city/rural area to ensure that the majority of each state/county/city/rural area of generic state X gets representation that most closely aligns with their views.

 

How about geometric shapes of a certain population size?

Has it ever occurred to you that statewide voting totals are a product of de facto voter suppression (my vote don't count who gives a shit) occurring in gerrymandered districts?

The solution you propose is a bit ass-backward.

4 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Nobody has posted funny shaped California districts yet. Do that you gerrymandering sluts

https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/?hl=en-US

 

There are multiple scoring methodologies for judging gerrymandered districts that are much better than biased "funny shaped" judgements. There are some minor issues in California but none touch the Southern states for blatant gerrymandering.

4 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

Because it appears you don't.  You're trying to get the representation to be as close as possible to the views of the constituents.  Parties as proxies tend to yield a good correlation.  Can you name a better proxy to get the representation of the area closer to the makeup of the electorate?

No. Nobody thinks that.  The bold is you thinking the goal of an election is to “get the representation to align with the views of constituents.”

That is not a goal.  That has never been a goal. That will never be a goal.

The goal is to allow fair elections, with the entire theory behind democracy being that the more input from all sides and the greater the cooperation from all sides, the better society will be.   You want a representative democracy where every election is preordained because the purpose of democracy is to get 100% of each team in each district - leaving each politician to ignore completely the minority views, because they will never be threatened with losing an election, allowing unreasonable ideology and team over benefit to public to shutdown government through a lack of compromise.

This is the model you want.  

 

1 hour ago, Ag with kids said:

I posted earlier that CA has gerrymandered their political districts to be 83% Democratic for Congress even though the state as a whole voted only 59% Democratic for POTUS.

dumb fuck. 

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8 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Please stop engaging with @Ag with kids. He is Helobious level stupid.

He has a degree in Animal Science! Are you not aware of the academic effort that is involved in that vocational degree?

Seriously, TAMU is a fucking vocational school that shouldn't be confused with actual universities.

11 minutes ago, F250 said:

He has a degree in Animal Science! Are you not aware of the academic effort that is involved in that vocational degree?

Seriously, TAMU is a fucking vocational school that shouldn't be confused with actual universities.

Are Aggies against vaccinations of animals? I'm not an Animal Scientist, but I'm pretty sure that is year 1 shit...

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Sorry, I'm having quite the time here! She's from Dallas? (Southlake Carroll HS). (Edit: Uh, no. She's from Indiana).

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15 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

You smooth brain Aggy.  Before one more word passes your stupid typing fingers to this board, explain how you are going to change the constitution to implement your stupid plan that understands nothing about the entire concept of democracy as enshrined in our constitution?

And you are apparently still don’t understand what gerrymandering is. Gerrymandering is NOT people who support one party more in a particular geographic area voting for that party.  

Nobody gives a shit what you want - when what you want is patently unconstitutional, and there is zero chance for this country voting for a constitutional amendment to enact the essence of stupid idea that you love so much.   

The reason you don’t get this is because you think everyone should vote for their team, not issues or policies. For instance, you could have a Republican congressman, supporting Ukraine and the dip shit orange traitor taking the anti-Ukraine position.   NOTHING about that factual scenario means that everyone in the state should vote for the same team just because the two candidates have a GOP next to their name.    

How did you pass high school civics?

He got an 84. You could have stopped at smooth brain aggy.

Also, can you fucks talk leopards on this thread?

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8 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Sorry, I'm having quite the time here! She's from Dallas? (Southlake Carroll HS). (Edit: Uh, no. She's from Indiana).

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She gonna show them A cups soon. Stay tuned. 

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11 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

I posted earlier that CA has gerrymandered their political districts to be 83% Democratic for Congress even though the state as a whole voted only 59% Democratic for POTUS.

Would you find it fair if Texas did the same for the GOP?  I lived in Parker County for 20 years.  It was about 85% Republican.  That was the county "community of interest".

So, why not make the entire state of Texas mirror that? 

Bozo would call that a great way to represent the "communities of interest".

I don’t understand this post, but Parker County is getting fucked. Weatherford should be the capital of a mostly rural district (the 17th) that contains all of Parker County and stretches includes west through Mineral Wells and South through some of the Big Country. The way it used to be. 
Instead, about half of Parker county sits in the 12th, including Weatherford. Unfortunately, it the 12th contains western suburbs of Ft Worth, along with most of downtown and the Mid Cities, and thus the bulk of the population of the district. Weatherford was peeled out of the 17th to add Republican ballast to the partisan mix. Consequently and predictably, the representative from the 12th is a lifelong citizen of Ft Worth, with deep roots in Tarrant County, Weatherford and Parker county are a distant afterthought.

10 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

I've answered your fucking question numerous times over the past 20 years.

No, you haven’t. Instead you just keep repeating that they should match, not why. For example:

10 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

you have to try to find the highest correlation between citizen political views and representative political policies.  Sucks that parties tend to fill that criteria, but here we are.

No you don’t have to, that’s not how our system works and the parties do not do that. 

 

10 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

Tell me your plan to apportion each state/county/city/rural area to ensure that the majority of each state/county/city/rural area of generic state X gets representation that most closely aligns with their views.

The goal is not and has never been to design districts to get representation that “aligns” to “views.”  You think that’s the goal for some reason but refuse to answer why you think that. 
The goal is to represent people in places, who have things in common (and these are called communities of interest). If you do that, it captures their views to the extent they are relevant on any given thing. You do that with districts designed around places with geography, economic and spatial interests in common. 
 

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Great, just fucking stop. Take it elsewhere, get a room, whatever.

 

Just now, InkaUtexas said:

Great, just fucking stop. Take it elsewhere, get a room, whatever.

 

It’s germane to this thread!

10 hours ago, F250 said:

He has a degree in Animal Science! Are you not aware of the academic effort that is involved in that vocational degree?

Seriously, TAMU is a fucking vocational school that shouldn't be confused with actual universities.

Actually, I think it's aerospace engineering, or mechanical or similar, IIRC.  Accordingly, he's not dumb most likely.  But a product of a probably slightly deficient education in humanities (most engineers suffer this, some make up for it with external reading, others don't) and a product of an echo chamber of his own.

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“As he nears the conclusion of his 18-year leadership tenure in the Senate, McConnell expressed concern about the direction in which Trump’s influence is steering the party. He argued that Trump appeals to those who feel left behind in a system that rewards success, suggesting that the former president provides a narrative that excuses individuals for their lack of achievement. “He’s tapping into the sentiment of people who haven’t reached the same level of success as others, offering them a way to rationalize their struggles by casting blame on those who are thriving,” McConnell explained.

The senator also lamented the fact that roughly half of Republican voters now align with Trump’s views, moving away from the party’s long-held priorities such as free trade and comprehensive immigration reform. “Unfortunately, about half of the Republicans in the country believe whatever he says,” he added.

 

Sorry Mitch, this is your legacy.  No running away from it.

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“As he nears the conclusion of his 18-year leadership tenure in the Senate, McConnell expressed concern about the direction in which Trump’s influence is steering the party. He argued that Trump appeals to those who feel left behind in a system that rewards success, suggesting that the former president provides a narrative that excuses individuals for their lack of achievement. “He’s tapping into the sentiment of people who haven’t reached the same level of success as others, offering them a way to rationalize their struggles by casting blame on those who are thriving,” McConnell explained.

The senator also lamented the fact that roughly half of Republican voters now align with Trump’s views, moving away from the party’s long-held priorities such as free trade and comprehensive immigration reform. “Unfortunately, about half of the Republicans in the country believe whatever he says,” he added.

 

Sorry Mitch, this is your legacy.  No running away from it.

Motherfucker sees things clear as a bell and always has.  

His rank partisanship is even more contemptible, now.

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Also stated, " I’ll just say many of my (Republican) colleagues are not doing town halls"

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"More so than in Portland, Corvallis, Hood River and other Democratic strongholds, residents in Bentz’s vast rural Oregon district depend on Medicaid and food assistance, money to prevent and battle wildfires, programs to boost farmers through purchasing wheat for poor countries and grants to upgrade infrastructure like high-speed internet coverage across vast expanses."

11 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

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Here's a Venn diagram that is representative of the various "communities of interest" in generic state/county/city/rural area X.

 

Tell me your plan to apportion each state/county/city/rural area to ensure that the majority of each state/county/city/rural area of generic state X gets representation that most closely aligns with their views.

 

What this diagram reminds me...   There are very few famous women with E cups.   Lost of Cs, Ds and DDs.   But so few Es and then it just seems to go to Gs and Hs.    

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Let’s check in on the farming community of grant county kansas. 
 

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And how did the people of grant county kansas vote?

81% for the russian asset?

Eat shit, hayseeds

 

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12 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

I posted earlier that CA has gerrymandered their political districts to be 83% Democratic for Congress even though the state as a whole voted only 59% Democratic for POTUS.

Would you find it fair if Texas did the same for the GOP?  I lived in Parker County for 20 years.  It was about 85% Republican.  That was the county "community of interest".

So, why not make the entire state of Texas mirror that? 

Bozo would call that a great way to represent the "communities of interest".

OK.  Are districts drawn/redrawn every presidential election cycle or are they based off the census?  Since I already know the answer to that, then you know that using the most recent Presidential election is not as representative as using the previous election cycles.  So your comparison is flawed at best even with only a cursory analysis.   

Second, look into how California assigns the redistricting.   Source

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California is one of eight states where redistricting is fully done by an independent commission. In seven states, the new congressional districts are being drawn by Democratic-controlled Legislatures, while Republican-majority Legislatures are drawing them in 20 states. 

So you singling out California for using an independent commission to redraw districts, while overlooking that Texas' uses a single party (in power) to draw it.  

I will refrain from going on further at the moment.    

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