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11 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

I do have 9 kids.

 

Holy shit dude. Did you know birth control exists?

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Of course the dumbest person in the thread has 9 kids.

Every time I think this country can't be more fucked, new information comes to light.

8 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Of course the dumbest person in the thread has 9 kids.

Every time I think this country can't be more fucked, new information comes to light.

Idiocracy. 

Of course the dumbest person in the thread has 9 kids.
Every time I think this country can't be more fucked, new information comes to light.

Idiocracy was a documentary.

Or you could get the measles vaccine and let the immune system god designed and built use that to make the same kind of antibodies against the disease and avoid all those days of discomfort. 

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Or you could get the measles vaccine and let the immune system god designed and built use that to make the same kind of antibodies against the disease and avoid all those days of discomfort. 

A couple shots that come free with your health insurance?

Obviously you’re not a grifter.

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If you have a Facebook account, Kayleigh Brantner's page is a piece of work.  She hawks a line of "organic" herbs, tinctures etc ... Here's what she wrote about her unvaccinated son getting the measles:
 
"Measles: Our Experience & Why We Didn’t Fear It
  On Valentine’s Day, Paxton came home with a fever. It lasted through the weekend, and by Monday, his eyes were red. I suspected measles—since it was going around—and immediately started dosing him with Golden Shield Syrup. My best friend Kathy Wieler brought me tallow cream mixed with thieves and lavender oils and cod liver oil, which I mixed into his Golden Shield 2-3 times a day. When his fever spiked, we used lukewarm baths with magnesium salts, baking soda, bentonite clay, and a lavender oatmeal body wash to keep him comfortable.   By Tuesday morning, a small rash appeared and spread quickly. At the doctor’s office, it was confirmed as measles, but my biggest concern was his lungs—especially with the fear-mongering going around. Praise God, his lungs were clear! We requested high-dose Vitamin A and went home to continue what we were already doing.   That same day, my Clear Protein+ arrived, which was a blessing since his appetite was low. I also kept him hydrated with Bouy and made sure he ate organic, vitamin A-rich foods like kale, collards, and sweet potatoes. By Wednesday, his fever started dropping. By Thursday, it was gone. By Friday, he was begging to go outside and play!   27a1.png I also caught a mild case—two days of fever, red eyes, and a headache but no rash. (You can only be coughed on so many times and be in close proximity with someone with it for so long without catching it, as I was sleeping with him and taking care of him 24/7.)   27a1.png Braydon showed early symptoms Tuesday afternoon, had a short fever, headache, and red eyes, but has not developed a rash as of yet and is feeling better today!   27a1.png Steven hasn’t shown any symptoms or signs of it. And my father in law had it as a child.   261d_1f3fc.pngFrom the moment Paxton came home sick, everyone in our house got Golden Shield and double doses of Vitamin A.   1f539.png Here’s my takeaway: The measles, in a healthy child or body, is NOTHING to fear. Don’t let the media or doctors scare you. Our bodies are designed to heal when we support them properly!   2705.png What worked for us: • Golden Shield Syrup for immunity and inflammation • Cod liver oil & tallow cream for deep nourishment • Vitamin A-rich foods & supplements • Hydration with Bouy • Clear Protein+ for recovery • Lukewarm detox baths to soothe fever and skin   Neither of my boys are vaccinated. I do NOT agree with vaccines, and I firmly believe that natural immunity is the best defense. If you’re thinking about getting the measles vaccine (or any vaccine) they’re pushing right now, PLEASE, PLEASE do your due diligence and research it first! You researched car seats and 500 other things, research these too!   I have TONS of information and will gladly point you in the right direction if you want to dig deeper. The truth is out there—you just have to be willing to look for it. Don’t blindly trust the media, big pharma, or even some doctors without questioning what’s really behind it all.   At the end of the day, God designed our bodies with an immune system for a reason. When we nourish it, support it, and allow it to do what it was created to do, we can handle things like the measles without fear.   Do your research. Ask questions. Be informed. Your family deserves it."

The fact that her kids are named Paxton and Braydon is….the most predictable thing ever.

My fav thing about the crystal clutchers is how much they consume that has ZERO oversight itself. All the supplements and bullsh, oh ya, fully trust it… that other stuff with decades of medical expertise? F that witch craft. 

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This FAFO has a happy ending. Sometimes, we denizens of the internet must become the leopards to exact justice and revenge on behalf of others.

 

Receipt at a Columbus Ohio mexican restaurant left by an unhappy magat loser:

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Oops, they didn't scribble out the name on the other copy! 

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She locked her business page and personal page. You're not gonna believe this, but she's a REALTOR!

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OH OH OH IT'S THE AI THAT GOT MY CREDIT CARDS AND WROTE THAT RACIST STUFF!!!

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Her husband's company is getting review bombed too: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61558532940935&sk=reviews

 

It's always nice when we get to see the Finding Out part of the story. 

11 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

Or, hear me out…with deconstructed burgers. 

You rang?

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Well those are all certainly words

8 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

This FAFO has a happy ending. Sometimes, we denizens of the internet must become the leopards to exact justice and revenge on behalf of others.

 

Receipt at a Columbus Ohio mexican restaurant left by an unhappy magat loser:

To be fair, it is Ohio Mexican food.

9 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


If you have a Facebook account, Kayleigh Brantner's page is a piece of work.  She hawks a line of "organic" herbs, tinctures etc ... Here's what she wrote about her unvaccinated son getting the measles:
 

"Measles: Our Experience & Why We Didn’t Fear It
 
On Valentine’s Day, Paxton came home with a fever. It lasted through the weekend, and by Monday, his eyes were red. I suspected measles—since it was going around—and immediately started dosing him with Golden Shield Syrup.
My best friend Kathy Wieler brought me tallow cream mixed with thieves and lavender oils and cod liver oil, which I mixed into his Golden Shield 2-3 times a day. When his fever spiked, we used lukewarm baths with magnesium salts, baking soda, bentonite clay, and a lavender oatmeal body wash to keep him comfortable.
 
By Tuesday morning, a small rash appeared and spread quickly. At the doctor’s office, it was confirmed as measles, but my biggest concern was his lungs—especially with the fear-mongering going around. Praise God, his lungs were clear! We requested high-dose Vitamin A and went home to continue what we were already doing.
 
That same day, my Clear Protein+ arrived, which was a blessing since his appetite was low. I also kept him hydrated with Bouy and made sure he ate organic, vitamin A-rich foods like kale, collards, and sweet potatoes.
By Wednesday, his fever started dropping. By Thursday, it was gone. By Friday, he was begging to go outside and play!
 
➡️ I also caught a mild case—two days of fever, red eyes, and a headache but no rash. (You can only be coughed on so many times and be in close proximity with someone with it for so long without catching it, as I was sleeping with him and taking care of him 24/7.)
 
➡️ Braydon showed early symptoms Tuesday afternoon, had a short fever, headache, and red eyes, but has not developed a rash as of yet and is feeling better today!
 
➡️ Steven hasn’t shown any symptoms or signs of it. And my father in law had it as a child.
 
☝🏼From the moment Paxton came home sick, everyone in our house got Golden Shield and double doses of Vitamin A.
 
🔹 Here’s my takeaway: The measles, in a healthy child or body, is NOTHING to fear. Don’t let the media or doctors scare you. Our bodies are designed to heal when we support them properly!
 
✅ What worked for us:
• Golden Shield Syrup for immunity and inflammation
• Cod liver oil & tallow cream for deep nourishment
• Vitamin A-rich foods & supplements
• Hydration with Bouy
• Clear Protein+ for recovery
• Lukewarm detox baths to soothe fever and skin
 
Neither of my boys are vaccinated. I do NOT agree with vaccines, and I firmly believe that natural immunity is the best defense. If you’re thinking about getting the measles vaccine (or any vaccine) they’re pushing right now, PLEASE, PLEASE do your due diligence and research it first! You researched car seats and 500 other things, research these too!
 
I have TONS of information and will gladly point you in the right direction if you want to dig deeper. The truth is out there—you just have to be willing to look for it. Don’t blindly trust the media, big pharma, or even some doctors without questioning what’s really behind it all.
 
At the end of the day, God designed our bodies with an immune system for a reason. When we nourish it, support it, and allow it to do what it was created to do, we can handle things like the measles without fear.
 
Do your research. Ask questions. Be informed. Your family deserves it."

my MIL that's a CPA and executive for a F500 nearly fell for this shit over the weekend. She's fallen for 4-figure scams on facebook before too. I really don't understand what it is about facebook that makes boomers just turn their fucking brains off.

It's like, if one of their friends posts it then they just turn off their critical thinking and okeydoke whatever the fuck is being repeated over and over.

 

It's exactly how we got into this mess.

13 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

He’s taking the early aggy baseball results a little hard, turned to brown liquor most likely.  

I have him pegged as some sort of quiver full evangelical. That would mesh with his sense of absolute certainty while being wrong. Since those types tend to be huge Trump supporters and believe that he is anointed by God, all the easily disapproval lies that pour out of his foul mouth are immediately discounted. Don is the beloved of the magic sky fairy that rules his world in minutia, so his brain screams at him not to question things anti-Donnie if different than Fox/OAN/Facebook/ People I Respect At Church think. 

We will never change his mind on anything because everything he knows and believes is backed by the Almighty.   Could be wrong, but it seems to track people I know, including other Aggy Engineer grads. 

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This is from later in the same article. Note the last sentence.

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2 minutes ago, austingirl said:

This is from later in the same article. Note the last sentence.

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This is the ultiamte expression of "fuck you I got mine". Any sort of empathy or social awareness is scorned, and they laser-focus on their grievances over reality.

Something tells me that Stephanie Lovins' journey to maximum fatassedness just got moved into the express lane.

Hope she can afford her Type II diabetes meds in Elon Musk's near-future.

Or not.  I really don't care.

 

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10 minutes ago, austingirl said:

This is from later in the same article. Note the last sentence.

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The whole article is worth a read:

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SEMINOLE, Texas — When the local hospital warned of a brewing measles outbreak, Kaleigh Brantner urged fellow residents of this rural West Texas community to beware of vaccinating their children.

Two weeks later, her unvaccinated 7-year-old son came home from school with a fever. The telltale rash across his body followed. But his mild symptoms and swift recovery only hardened Brantner’s anti-vaccination convictions, even after an unvaccinated child died of measles at a hospital 80 miles away.

Texas’s worst measles eruption in three decades has surged to 146 known cases, with the true toll likely much higher, exposing how under-vaccinated communities are unnecessarily vulnerable to one of the world’s most contagious diseases, experts say. The first known victim was 6 and otherwise healthy, according to two individuals with knowledge of the case who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss details that haven’t been publicly released.

The life-threatening outbreak in West Texas starkly illustrates the stakes of slipping immunization rates and the ascension of vaccine skeptics, including Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr., to the highest levels of the public health establishment.

And it has revealed how fear and the scientifically false claims of the anti-vaccine movement have seeped into communities such as Gaines County, the epicenter of the outbreak, hardening attitudes about vaccines, pro and con, in the face of a dangerous, preventable disease.

Brantner, 34, said she decided not to vaccinate her children after years of her own research and because, she said, her nephew had a severe reaction to the vaccine against diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. She moved from New Mexico to Texas in part because it’s easier here to claim an exception to school vaccine mandates.

 

“A cough, runny nose, fever and rash to a healthy child is mild but vaccine adverse reactions are severe!!!” she commented on Jan. 30 on the local hospital’s Facebook post, which described measles symptoms.

Brantner’s son Paxton recovered from measles with little problem, she said, after she fed him organic food and cod liver oil, bathed him in magnesium salts and rubbed him in beef tallow cream infused with lavender. The family took precautions to protect others in the community, such as ordering groceries for pickup and keeping their older son out of school. He developed a measles rash Friday.

Medical experts and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say harm from vaccines is rare and is vastly outweighed by the risk of preventable disease. Two doses of the measles vaccine are 97 percent effective against the virus.

The origins of the outbreak remain unclear. Infections quickly spread within Gaines County’s Mennonite community, a diverse religious sect of thousands, some of whom educate their children at home or at private schools without vaccine mandates.

But the outbreak is no longer concentrated just in that group. It has infected people like the Brantner family, who are not Mennonites, spread across nine West Texas counties and crossed the border into New Mexico.

The outbreak spurred hundreds in the region to vaccinate themselves and their children as the threat of the virus became immediate. But it has made others dig in their heels, arguing that measles is no worse than chicken pox or the flu.

While most children with measles recover, as many as 1 in 20 develop pneumonia, according to the CDC. One in 1,000 experience swelling of the brain, which can leave a child deaf or with an intellectual disability. For every 1,000 children with measles, one or two die.

Still, some living with the outbreak argue that it is a good thing: Girls can grow up and pass antibodies to their children to shore up protection in infancy, while infected children gain lifelong immunity.

But doctors warn that comes at a cost.

“They could have had that same immunity with the vaccine,” said Tammy Camp, a Lubbock pediatrician who oversees doctors who cared for the child who died. “And, unfortunately, there’s a child who paid a very heavy price for that.”

Why this corner of Texas?

Conditions were ripe for a regional measles outbreak in Gaines County.

It has Texas’s third-highest rate of public school children — 13.6 percent — whose parents claim a “conscientious exemption” for at least one vaccine. In one tiny school district, nearly half the students claim an exemption.

In local private schools, officials believe, the unvaccinated rate is also high.

Measles spreads with extraordinary efficiency, hanging in the air for hours even after a carrier leaves a room. That’s why public health experts say a population needs at least a 95 percent vaccination rate to achieve herd immunity.

Measles was eliminated in the United States in 2000 but periodically reemerges, often after an unvaccinated person travels to a country where measles still broadly circulates. There have been recent cases in the Seattle area, New Jersey and Southern California. If vaccination rates are high, it’s like throwing a match into soaked wood; it fizzles out. If it infiltrates a community with pockets of unvaccinated people, it’s like throwing a torch into a parched forest and igniting a wildfire.

 

Kennedy, a longtime critic of measles shots and other childhood vaccinations, has not urged Americans to get vaccinated, as federal officials did during past measles outbreaks.

In an op-ed published Sunday on the Fox News website, Kennedy called on parents to discuss measles shots with their health-care providers.

“The decision to vaccinate is a personal one,” Kennedy wrote. “Vaccines not only protect individual children from measles, but also contribute to community immunity, protecting those who are unable to be vaccinated due to medical reasons.”

Because Gaines County has no movie theater, limited health-care options and few big-box stores, people travel to cities more than an hour away for entertainment, shopping and advanced medical care — creating opportunities for the virus to spread through new pockets of unvaccinated people.

Measles outbreaks often link back to tightly knit groups with below-average vaccination rates, even if the majority of the community is immunized. In 2017, measles tore through a Somali community in the Minneapolis area, infecting more than 70. The next year, a measles outbreak in New York City infected more than 600 Orthodox Jews.

Disease detectives are seeing similar conditions among the West Texas Mennonites.

A misunderstood community

The spotlight on Mennonites has bred resentment in the community that they are being unfairly blamed, stereotyped as insular or conflated with subsets of Amish people who eschew modern medicine and technology.

Mennonites, descendants of persecuted European Anabaptists, have roots in the community that stretch back to the 1970s, when hundreds immigrated from Mexico.

Their more than half-dozen churches range from sprawling halls where hundreds pack the pews and services are live-streamed to tiny buildings on the outskirts of town.

Some are recognized as people who speak Low German or as women who wear head coverings. But many are indistinguishable from other residents. They work as baristas, staff home-style cooking joints and run construction companies, sometimes wearing traditional clothing.

Jake Fehr, pastor of the Mennonite Evangelical Church, who wore jeans and a blazer as he delivered a sermon about the dangers of anger, said Mennonite clergy do not use their pulpits to dissuade parishioners from getting vaccines. People base their decisions on their own convictions, he said, which range from skepticism of Big Pharma to a preference for natural immunity.

“It is not a matter of religion,” said Fehr, who noted that he and his four children are vaccinated. “This gets pushed as a narrative that we are not taking good health protocols and that we are sort of these anti-vaccine people, and that’s just simply not the case.”

He and other local leaders said a Mennonite school and day care deserve credit for temporarily closing after measles exposures, as do parents willing to abide by the 21-day isolation guidance for unvaccinated children who have been exposed to the virus.

Tina Siemens, a local Mennonite historian and author, described the ongoing measles outbreak as just another trial endured by a resilient people.

“It’s not like, ‘Oh we’re so anxious, this is an outbreak, we got to really be scared,’” Siemens said. “You work through it and you learn from your hardships and you get stronger because of it.”

Anti-vaccine views harden

Zach Holbrooks, executive director of the South Plains Public Health District, which includes Gaines County, recently visited Siemens at the museum she runs to share a medical journal article about the four months it took to end a measles outbreak in an Amish community in Ohio in 2014.

Some Mennonites have faulted him for singling out their community, but Holbrooks said he is just trying to provide information about the burgeoning risk.

Holbrooks worries that younger generations do not understand the danger of measles that he and his staff are now seeing. At a testing site outside the hospital, a mother showed up with a baby with blue lips — a sign the infant was struggling to breathe.

“That has haunted me,” Holbrooks said. “That would be the impetus for me to do everything I can to get the message out about measles vaccine.”

Vaccines can be a victim of their own success. When diseases vanish, the memory of their dangers and the urgency to eradicate them fade.

Marina Tovar brought her 15-month-old daughter Kambrey to be vaccinated at the Lubbock Health Department after Sunday church services. She had already planned to vaccinate her daughter when the family’s insurance plan restarted, but sped up her plans after reading about the outbreak.

“Why would I chance her getting it?” Tovar asked, noting that her two older children received vaccines. “And they’ve been fine. So we just wanted to keep her protected the best we could.”

But firsthand experience does not always change views on vaccines.

On a morning last week at a Mennonite-owned pizzeria, a Mennonite couple told a waitress that their 16-year-old son’s recent bout of measles was minor. “It was a rough couple of days, but nothing worse than a flu,” the father, Peter, said.

In an interview, the couple said they view childhood vaccination as tantamount to Russian roulette because of the risk of side effects. They spoke on the condition that their last names not be published because, they said, local Mennonites have been harassed and ostracized since the outbreak began.

The couple said those who choose not to vaccinate children are unfairly vilified. They said they protected the community by keeping their son and his older siblings home after he tested positive for measles.

“Some people have it really bad but most people don’t, just like with the vaccine,” said Mary, the mother. “Where there is risk, there should be choice.”

 

Experts say the choice not to immunize has consequences for the community, even when people experience mild illness and isolate once sick. People infected with measles can transmit the virus four days before the rash appears. Infants are too young to be vaccinated.

Still, some here believe the vaccines themselves are responsible for the rapid spread of the virus. They repeated false claims from anti-vaccine activists outside Texas who blamed free vaccine clinics launched in the early days of the outbreak for accelerating infections.

They have seized on a handful of measles cases in vaccinated patients (five out of 146, with vaccination status unknown for 62, according to state data) to argue that the unvaccinated are not to blame. But epidemiologists say it’s not surprising that occasional infections will occur among vaccinated people when an outbreak is rapidly growing.

Ben Edwards, a physician in Lubbock who treats some patients in Seminole, including a family with measles, recently released an episode of his podcast about the outbreak, in which he described mass infection as “God’s version of measles immunization.”

Edwards said the ideal treatment for measles is not all that dissimilar from other infectious diseases. His advice for patients is to undergo a “mitochondrial tune-up” to strengthen their immune response.

“Go get a green juice, or just drink some water with a pinch of sea salt and go sit outside and listen to a bird chirp,” Edwards said. “It sounds crazy, but it’s the basics. It’s what our ancestors knew.”

His views stand in stark contrast with the pleas of those on the front lines of the outbreak to get vaccinated. All 20 confirmed measles patients treated at Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock were unvaccinated, officials said.

Summer Davies, a pediatric hospitalist, has cared for about half of them, including the one who died.

“This is a disease they didn’t have to get if they had adequate vaccination or if we had adequate herd immunity,” Davies said. “Knowing there was a way to prevent it is the heartbreaking part.”

The shocking thing about this article isn't necessarily the ignorance.  It's the malevolence: "I'm not going to put my child at risk to save yours."  Leaving aside the fact that there is functionally zero fucking risk, the out-and-out unwillingness to help the community in any way is remarkable.

But then it's coupled with the inevitable persecution syndrome.  "We're being unfairly blamed for bringing disease."  I mean, yeah--because you did bring disease.  There's nothing "unfair" about it.  

Between the ignorance, the malevolence, and the persecution syndrome, these people are a menace to society.  If there's one thing I can agree with this Administration on, is that they be cut off from the federal teat, which is the only way they survive.  Let them catch measles.  And whopping cough and diphtheria, while they're at it.  Cut off their Medicaid.  Their hospitals will close.  But that's ok--they'll have plenty of snake oil to keep them kicking.  And along the way, we can cut off their SNAP and their farm credits and everything else.  A century ago, their ancestors in that part of the state died of disease and starvation.  We made a mistake in eradicating those two particular horsemen from riding roughshod.

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SEMINOLE, Texas — When the local hospital warned of a brewing measles outbreak, Kaleigh Brantner urged fellow residents of this rural West Texas community to beware of vaccinating their children.

Two weeks later, her unvaccinated 7-year-old son came home from school with a fever. The telltale rash across his body followed. But his mild symptoms and swift recovery only hardened Brantner’s anti-vaccination convictions, even after an unvaccinated child died of measles at a hospital 80 miles away.

Texas’s worst measles eruption in three decades has surged to 146 known cases, with the true toll likely much higher, exposing how under-vaccinated communities are unnecessarily vulnerable to one of the world’s most contagious diseases, experts say. The first known victim was 6 and otherwise healthy, according to two individuals with knowledge of the case who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss details that haven’t been publicly released.

The life-threatening outbreak in West Texas starkly illustrates the stakes of slipping immunization rates and the ascension of vaccine skeptics, including Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr., to the highest levels of the public health establishment.

And it has revealed how fear and the scientifically false claims of the anti-vaccine movement have seeped into communities such as Gaines County, the epicenter of the outbreak, hardening attitudes about vaccines, pro and con, in the face of a dangerous, preventable disease.

Brantner, 34, said she decided not to vaccinate her children after years of her own research and because, she said, her nephew had a severe reaction to the vaccine against diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. She moved from New Mexico to Texas in part because it’s easier here to claim an exception to school vaccine mandates.

 

“A cough, runny nose, fever and rash to a healthy child is mild but vaccine adverse reactions are severe!!!” she commented on Jan. 30 on the local hospital’s Facebook post, which described measles symptoms.

Brantner’s son Paxton recovered from measles with little problem, she said, after she fed him organic food and cod liver oil, bathed him in magnesium salts and rubbed him in beef tallow cream infused with lavender. The family took precautions to protect others in the community, such as ordering groceries for pickup and keeping their older son out of school. He developed a measles rash Friday.

Medical experts and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say harm from vaccines is rare and is vastly outweighed by the risk of preventable disease. Two doses of the measles vaccine are 97 percent effective against the virus.

The origins of the outbreak remain unclear. Infections quickly spread within Gaines County’s Mennonite community, a diverse religious sect of thousands, some of whom educate their children at home or at private schools without vaccine mandates.

But the outbreak is no longer concentrated just in that group. It has infected people like the Brantner family, who are not Mennonites, spread across nine West Texas counties and crossed the border into New Mexico.

The outbreak spurred hundreds in the region to vaccinate themselves and their children as the threat of the virus became immediate. But it has made others dig in their heels, arguing that measles is no worse than chicken pox or the flu.

While most children with measles recover, as many as 1 in 20 develop pneumonia, according to the CDC. One in 1,000 experience swelling of the brain, which can leave a child deaf or with an intellectual disability. For every 1,000 children with measles, one or two die.

Still, some living with the outbreak argue that it is a good thing: Girls can grow up and pass antibodies to their children to shore up protection in infancy, while infected children gain lifelong immunity.

But doctors warn that comes at a cost.

“They could have had that same immunity with the vaccine,” said Tammy Camp, a Lubbock pediatrician who oversees doctors who cared for the child who died. “And, unfortunately, there’s a child who paid a very heavy price for that.”

Why this corner of Texas?

Conditions were ripe for a regional measles outbreak in Gaines County.

It has Texas’s third-highest rate of public school children — 13.6 percent — whose parents claim a “conscientious exemption” for at least one vaccine. In one tiny school district, nearly half the students claim an exemption.

In local private schools, officials believe, the unvaccinated rate is also high.

Measles spreads with extraordinary efficiency, hanging in the air for hours even after a carrier leaves a room. That’s why public health experts say a population needs at least a 95 percent vaccination rate to achieve herd immunity.

Measles was eliminated in the United States in 2000 but periodically reemerges, often after an unvaccinated person travels to a country where measles still broadly circulates. There have been recent cases in the Seattle area, New Jersey and Southern California. If vaccination rates are high, it’s like throwing a match into soaked wood; it fizzles out. If it infiltrates a community with pockets of unvaccinated people, it’s like throwing a torch into a parched forest and igniting a wildfire.

 

Kennedy, a longtime critic of measles shots and other childhood vaccinations, has not urged Americans to get vaccinated, as federal officials did during past measles outbreaks.

In an op-ed published Sunday on the Fox News website, Kennedy called on parents to discuss measles shots with their health-care providers.

“The decision to vaccinate is a personal one,” Kennedy wrote. “Vaccines not only protect individual children from measles, but also contribute to community immunity, protecting those who are unable to be vaccinated due to medical reasons.”

Because Gaines County has no movie theater, limited health-care options and few big-box stores, people travel to cities more than an hour away for entertainment, shopping and advanced medical care — creating opportunities for the virus to spread through new pockets of unvaccinated people.

Measles outbreaks often link back to tightly knit groups with below-average vaccination rates, even if the majority of the community is immunized. In 2017, measles tore through a Somali community in the Minneapolis area, infecting more than 70. The next year, a measles outbreak in New York City infected more than 600 Orthodox Jews.

Disease detectives are seeing similar conditions among the West Texas Mennonites.

A misunderstood community

The spotlight on Mennonites has bred resentment in the community that they are being unfairly blamed, stereotyped as insular or conflated with subsets of Amish people who eschew modern medicine and technology.

Mennonites, descendants of persecuted European Anabaptists, have roots in the community that stretch back to the 1970s, when hundreds immigrated from Mexico.

Their more than half-dozen churches range from sprawling halls where hundreds pack the pews and services are live-streamed to tiny buildings on the outskirts of town.

Some are recognized as people who speak Low German or as women who wear head coverings. But many are indistinguishable from other residents. They work as baristas, staff home-style cooking joints and run construction companies, sometimes wearing traditional clothing.

Jake Fehr, pastor of the Mennonite Evangelical Church, who wore jeans and a blazer as he delivered a sermon about the dangers of anger, said Mennonite clergy do not use their pulpits to dissuade parishioners from getting vaccines. People base their decisions on their own convictions, he said, which range from skepticism of Big Pharma to a preference for natural immunity.

“It is not a matter of religion,” said Fehr, who noted that he and his four children are vaccinated. “This gets pushed as a narrative that we are not taking good health protocols and that we are sort of these anti-vaccine people, and that’s just simply not the case.”

He and other local leaders said a Mennonite school and day care deserve credit for temporarily closing after measles exposures, as do parents willing to abide by the 21-day isolation guidance for unvaccinated children who have been exposed to the virus.

Tina Siemens, a local Mennonite historian and author, described the ongoing measles outbreak as just another trial endured by a resilient people.

“It’s not like, ‘Oh we’re so anxious, this is an outbreak, we got to really be scared,’” Siemens said. “You work through it and you learn from your hardships and you get stronger because of it.”

Anti-vaccine views harden

Zach Holbrooks, executive director of the South Plains Public Health District, which includes Gaines County, recently visited Siemens at the museum she runs to share a medical journal article about the four months it took to end a measles outbreak in an Amish community in Ohio in 2014.

Some Mennonites have faulted him for singling out their community, but Holbrooks said he is just trying to provide information about the burgeoning risk.

Holbrooks worries that younger generations do not understand the danger of measles that he and his staff are now seeing. At a testing site outside the hospital, a mother showed up with a baby with blue lips — a sign the infant was struggling to breathe.

“That has haunted me,” Holbrooks said. “That would be the impetus for me to do everything I can to get the message out about measles vaccine.”

Vaccines can be a victim of their own success. When diseases vanish, the memory of their dangers and the urgency to eradicate them fade.

Marina Tovar brought her 15-month-old daughter Kambrey to be vaccinated at the Lubbock Health Department after Sunday church services. She had already planned to vaccinate her daughter when the family’s insurance plan restarted, but sped up her plans after reading about the outbreak.

“Why would I chance her getting it?” Tovar asked, noting that her two older children received vaccines. “And they’ve been fine. So we just wanted to keep her protected the best we could.”

But firsthand experience does not always change views on vaccines.

On a morning last week at a Mennonite-owned pizzeria, a Mennonite couple told a waitress that their 16-year-old son’s recent bout of measles was minor. “It was a rough couple of days, but nothing worse than a flu,” the father, Peter, said.

In an interview, the couple said they view childhood vaccination as tantamount to Russian roulette because of the risk of side effects. They spoke on the condition that their last names not be published because, they said, local Mennonites have been harassed and ostracized since the outbreak began.

The couple said those who choose not to vaccinate children are unfairly vilified. They said they protected the community by keeping their son and his older siblings home after he tested positive for measles.

“Some people have it really bad but most people don’t, just like with the vaccine,” said Mary, the mother. “Where there is risk, there should be choice.”

 

Experts say the choice not to immunize has consequences for the community, even when people experience mild illness and isolate once sick. People infected with measles can transmit the virus four days before the rash appears. Infants are too young to be vaccinated.

Still, some here believe the vaccines themselves are responsible for the rapid spread of the virus. They repeated false claims from anti-vaccine activists outside Texas who blamed free vaccine clinics launched in the early days of the outbreak for accelerating infections.

They have seized on a handful of measles cases in vaccinated patients (five out of 146, with vaccination status unknown for 62, according to state data) to argue that the unvaccinated are not to blame. But epidemiologists say it’s not surprising that occasional infections will occur among vaccinated people when an outbreak is rapidly growing.

Ben Edwards, a physician in Lubbock who treats some patients in Seminole, including a family with measles, recently released an episode of his podcast about the outbreak, in which he described mass infection as “God’s version of measles immunization.”

Edwards said the ideal treatment for measles is not all that dissimilar from other infectious diseases. His advice for patients is to undergo a “mitochondrial tune-up” to strengthen their immune response.

“Go get a green juice, or just drink some water with a pinch of sea salt and go sit outside and listen to a bird chirp,” Edwards said. “It sounds crazy, but it’s the basics. It’s what our ancestors knew.”

His views stand in stark contrast with the pleas of those on the front lines of the outbreak to get vaccinated. All 20 confirmed measles patients treated at Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock were unvaccinated, officials said.

Summer Davies, a pediatric hospitalist, has cared for about half of them, including the one who died.

“This is a disease they didn’t have to get if they had adequate vaccination or if we had adequate herd immunity,” Davies said. “Knowing there was a way to prevent it is the heartbreaking part.”

The shocking thing about this article isn't necessarily the ignorance.  It's the malevolence: "I'm not going to put my child at risk to save yours." 

 

These are the same people who refused to take literally two seconds to keep other people from dying in a plague.  They were probably unlikely to die from Covid, so why mask up just because your grandmother is in that same HEB?  Their individual liberties mattered more, because Tucker Carlson said so.  See also: kids getting shot to death with their big dick toys that White Jesus himself promised them forever.  Why should they lose their hobby just because your kids are lying in bloody pools a couple of times a week?

These people are rotten to their core.  They don't give a shit about anybody but themselves.  And they'll all be in church on Sunday.  Fuck it, go measles.  We need a purge.

 

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2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

 

These are the same people who refused to take literally two seconds to keep other people from dying in a plague.  They were probably unlikely to die from Covid, so why mask up just because your grandmother is in that same HEB?  Their individual liberties mattered more, because Tucker Carlson said so.  See also: kids getting shot to death with their big dick toys that White Jesus himself promised them forever.  Why should they lose their hobby just because your kids are lying in bloody pools a couple of times a week?

These people are rotten to their core.  They don't give a shit about anybody but themselves.  And they'll all be in church on Sunday.  Fuck it, go measles.  We need a purge.

 

Remember, they are also very, very, very stupid and bad at math.

Accept the fact that any vaccine, like MMR, has a certain percentage chance of bad outcomes.  Seriously, everything good for you has some sort of risk - broccoli is a superfood, but I guarantee you that there are a handful of people out there who are deathly allergic to it.

Then accept the additional mathematical fact that a disease like measles has a certain fatality/serious/long-term complications rate.

Which one of those numbers is HIGHER?  That should drive your decision.   I've used the analogy repeatedly here, but it holds true: these fucking idiots are the kind of people who refuse to wear a seatbelt because "seatbelts trap you in the car, and when it goes over a bridge into water or bursts into flame, being trapped kills you"....which is indeed true in some situations.  There are cases where wearing a seatbelt actually CAUSES a death.  The problem is....those handful of cases are vastly outweighed by all the times that wearing a seatbelt SAVES someone from death or serious injury.  In 1 in 10,000 wrecks, a seatbelt causes a bad outcome.  But in 1 in 10 wrecks, seatbelts save lives/prevent serious injury.  Vaccine refusal is for people who are stupid bad at math.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Remember, they are also very, very, very stupid and bad at math.

Accept the fact that any vaccine, like MMR, has a certain percentage chance of bad outcomes.  Seriously, everything good for you has some sort of risk - broccoli is a superfood, but I guarantee you that there are a handful of people out there who are deathly allergic to it.

Then accept the additional mathematical fact that a disease like measles has a certain fatality/serious/long-term complications rate.

Which one of those numbers is HIGHER?  That should drive your decision.   I've used the analogy repeatedly here, but it holds true: these fucking idiots are the kind of people who refuse to wear a seatbelt because "seatbelts trap you in the car, and when it goes over a bridge into water or bursts into flame, being trapped kills you"....which is indeed true in some situations.  There are cases where wearing a seatbelt actually CAUSES a death.  The problem is....those handful of cases are vastly outweighed by all the times that wearing a seatbelt SAVES someone from death or serious injury.  In 1 in 10,000 wrecks, a seatbelt causes a bad outcome.  But in 1 in 10 wrecks, seatbelts save lives/prevent serious injury.  Vaccine refusal is for people who are stupid bad at math.

 

Exactly.

A few deaths from vaccines means that vaccines are bad.  A few people killed by immigrants means that immigrants are bad.  A shitload of kids killed by guns doesn't mean anything about guns.  A shady business dealing by someone's son means that the whole family is rotten.  But hundreds of shady business dealings by an individual doesn't mean anything about him except that he's the victim of a smear campaign.  One consensual blowjob makes one guy a piece of shit, and 17 rape allegations mean nothing about another guy.

These people are complete intellectual puppets without the critical thinking skills of the average wild animal.

1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

These people are complete intellectual puppets without the critical thinking skills of the average wild animal.

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1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

 

Exactly.

A few deaths from vaccines means that vaccines are bad.  A few people killed by immigrants means that immigrants are bad.  A shitload of kids killed by guns doesn't mean anything about guns.  A shady business dealing by someone's son means that the whole family is rotten.  But hundreds of shady business dealings by an individual doesn't mean anything about him except that he's the victim of a smear campaign.  One consensual blowjob makes one guy a piece of shit, and 17 rape allegations mean nothing about another guy.

These people are complete intellectual puppets without the critical thinking skills of the average wild animal.

Well.fucking.said. Wish i could rep this more

1 hour ago, austingirl said:

This is from later in the same article. Note the last sentence.

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I feel a little bad about myself right now, because one thought that popped into my head is that the wrong kid died of the measles.

41 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

If there's one thing I can agree with this Administration on, is that they be cut off from the federal teat, which is the only way they survive.  Let them catch measles.  And whopping cough and diphtheria, while they're at it.  Cut off their Medicaid.  Their hospitals will close.  But that's ok--they'll have plenty of snake oil to keep them kicking.  And along the way, we can cut off their SNAP and their farm credits and everything else.

But at least that will help with their ongoing efforts to keep young people staying in Prairie Dog Dick, Kansas, ….. you know……for the opportunities. 

OTOH, taking those small town nativist, racist, homophobic MAGA beliefs into the big city might convince them that nightly eating Old Roy casserole made with government cheese - with no medical care - is where they want to live.

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One caveat: oops!  There might not be any more government cheese once Elmo gets around to that department.

57 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The problem is....those handful of cases are vastly outweighed by all the times that wearing a seatbelt SAVES someone from death or serious injury.  In 1 in 10,000 wrecks, a seatbelt causes a bad outcome.  But in 1 in 10 wrecks, seatbelts save lives/prevent serious injury.  Vaccine refusal is for people who are stupid bad at math.

Sure, but we’ve all had the seatbelt conversation with an idiot who says their friend at the carpet warehouse has a cousin who works at the feedmill and his boss was thrown free from a truck that caught on fire when he rolled it. So not wearing a seatbelt saved his life and the beers made him loose and limber so he didn’t break nothin either. 
the difference is that you don’t have a political party pushing suburban boymoms not to use seatbelts and to make sure they have a couplabeers before they get behind the wheel. 
yet.

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55 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

 

Exactly.

A few deaths from vaccines means that vaccines are bad.  A few people killed by immigrants means that immigrants are bad.  A shitload of kids killed by guns doesn't mean anything about guns.  A shady business dealing by someone's son means that the whole family is rotten.  But hundreds of shady business dealings by an individual doesn't mean anything about him except that he's the victim of a smear campaign.  One consensual blowjob makes one guy a piece of shit, and 17 rape allegations mean nothing about another guy.

These people are complete intellectual puppets without the critical thinking skills of the average wild animal.

The United States of Anecdote

1 hour ago, austingirl said:

This is from later in the same article. Note the last sentence.

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Odds that this is the same mindset of the mother of the child that died?  Or was that a case of an infant too young to be vaxed being let down by the community?

46 minutes ago, 27-25 said:

I feel a little bad about myself right now, because one thought that popped into my head is that the wrong kid died of the measles.

I can't find the right emoji to rep that, but I surely get it. The fates of these people are absolutely nothing to me.

On 2/28/2025 at 6:01 AM, hornmpa96 said:

Exactly - The property tax savings when I lived in Colorado were significant.

Not only that, but when you retire your income taxes go way down.  Property taxes don't care if you're working or not.

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10 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

They “researched” things on the internet that god provided and then drove their electric car using gods own gps to the store to buy some vitamins and minerals that god himself extracted from various plants and animals.

But trusting medical science is a bridge too far…that life expectancy is up by 15 years over the past 100 years is just luck with nothing to do with vaccines and medicine.

I said this a lot during COVID and I'll say it now.  If you don't trust doctors, stay the fuck out of hospitals. Don't go clogging up the ER with your dumb, sick ass when shit gets real.  Just stay home and use your ivermectin and tinctures.  

3 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

I said this a lot during COVID and I'll say it now.  If you don't trust doctors, stay the fuck out of hospitals. Don't go clogging up the ER with your dumb, sick ass when shit gets real.  Just stay home and use your ivermectin and tinctures.  

pffft don't be a fool that stuff doesn't work.. Colloidal Silver or gfto  

 

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4 minutes ago, G650 said:

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Oh, you didnt think Trump would eat YOUR face?

 

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14 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

95% of farmers are white

96% of farms are led by a "family unit"

64% of farmers are men (surprised it's not 85%+)

the electoral college maps since '48 tell a story but we need to get back to leopard face eating

Have Willie spearhead this  Or Mellencamp if he's not to busy sucking on a chili dog.

1 hour ago, 27-25 said:

I feel a little bad about myself right now, because one thought that popped into my head is that the wrong kid died of the measles.

Wrong kid died!

But, Maybe he will get halved soon.

On 3/2/2025 at 12:23 PM, Gatorubet said:

We need life-size figures in bronze to memorialize this event and place it somewhere in Kentucky

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That capture is fucking perfect - especially Thune's face in the background.  No notes.

59 minutes ago, G650 said:

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54 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

 

Oh, you didnt think Trump would eat YOUR face?

 

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I mean, we wouldn't put it past this guy to vote for an actual leopard, would we?  The man has a brand to maintain.

16 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

95% of farmers are white

96% of farms are led by a "family unit"

64% of farmers are men (surprised it's not 85%+)

the electoral college maps since '48 tell a story but we need to get back to leopard face eating

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3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Sure, but we’ve all had the seatbelt conversation with an idiot who says their friend at the carpet warehouse has a cousin who works at the feedmill and his boss was thrown free from a truck that caught on fire when he rolled it. So not wearing a seatbelt saved his life and the beers made him loose and limber so he didn’t break nothin either. 

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3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Sure, but we’ve all had the seatbelt conversation with an idiot who says their friend at the carpet warehouse has a cousin who works at the feedmill and his boss was thrown free from a truck that caught on fire when he rolled it. So not wearing a seatbelt saved his life and the beers made him loose and limber so he didn’t break nothin either. 

Wrong.  The cousin worked at a feed LOT.  In Amarillo.  I sweatergawd, pretty much that exact story, from a dude I knew from Amarillo.  Like, 35 years ago.  We only get stupider.

On 3/2/2025 at 9:41 AM, Horn Dog said:

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“As he nears the conclusion of his 18-year leadership tenure in the Senate, McConnell expressed concern about the direction in which Trump’s influence is steering the party. He argued that Trump appeals to those who feel left behind in a system that rewards success, suggesting that the former president provides a narrative that excuses individuals for their lack of achievement. “He’s tapping into the sentiment of people who haven’t reached the same level of success as others, offering them a way to rationalize their struggles by casting blame on those who are thriving,” McConnell explained.

The senator also lamented the fact that roughly half of Republican voters now align with Trump’s views, moving away from the party’s long-held priorities such as free trade and comprehensive immigration reform. “Unfortunately, about half of the Republicans in the country believe whatever he says,” he added.

 

Sorry Mitch, this is your legacy.  No running away from it.

 

He's worried about the R party. He should be worried about democracy. 

Motherfuck still putting party over country. 

 

 

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