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10 hours ago, Iceman said:

Seems like the naysayers/ deniers should be dead by now...

 

Just an observation.

You realize most of the naysayers and deniers are actually all vaccinated with measles, whooping cough, and a dozen other deadly vaccines because it was pretty much mandatory when they were children, right?

The ones who are going to suffer are their children. 

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ACIP meeting today and tomorrow, looks like today will focus on birth dose of Hep B vaccine, with a vote scheduled. Tomorrow appears to be a broader discussion of the evolution of the vaccine guidance in US with comparison particularly to other developed countries. 

 

Here is the vote language today.

Hepatitis B Vaccination in Children Born to Mothers who test HBsAg-negative

Vote Language, 12/3/25

VOTE 1

ACIP recommends a birth dose of Hepatitis B virus (HBV) vaccine and Hepatitis B Immunoglobulin for infants born to women who test HBsAg-positive. ACIP recommends individual-based decision-making, in consultation with a health care provider, for parents deciding whether to give the HBV vaccine birth dose to infants born to women who are HBsAg-negative or whose HBsAg status is unknown. Parents should consult with health care providers and decide when or if their child will begin the HBV vaccine series. Parents and health care providers should consider vaccine benefits, vaccine risks, and infection risks. For those not receiving the HBV birth dose, it is suggested that the initial dose is administered no earlier than 2 months of age. Y/N

VOTE 2

When evaluating the need for subsequent HBV vaccine dose in children, parents should consult with health care providers to determine if a post-vaccination anti-HBs serology testing should be offered prior to subsequent HBV vaccine dose administration. Serology results should determine whether the established protective anti-HBs titer threshold of ≥10 mIU/mL has been achieved. The cost of this testing should be covered by insurance. Y/N

Straight up lies masquerading as science.

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“For the first time, the US FDA will acknowledge that Covid vaccines have killed American children,” Prasad wrote in the memo, reviewed by the Guardian, calling into question whether Covid vaccines killed “more healthy kids than it saved”.

Paul Offit, an infectious diseases physician at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said of the memo: “When you make that kind of sensational claim, I think it’s incumbent upon you to provide evidence that supports that claim. He didn’t supply any evidence.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/04/us-vaccines-vinay-prasad-memo

 I agree with Offit to the extent that until the findings are publically released, the claim means nothing. OTOH, it was an internal memo, not a press release, and the data are supposedly going to be released tomorrow. Either way, if it is based on VAERS it will not provide definitive epidemiological evidence of a link, just a signal for further investigation, more akin to a case series.  

35 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Eradicating hepatitis B over a couple of generations, where’s the benefit in that?

introducing the vaccine took Hep B infections down 99% with the introduction of the infant vaccine

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00333549231175548

We're gonna #MakeAmericaHealthyAgain by following the advice of a heroin addict that believes 5G causes cancer, and that raw milk is safe for broad consumption. 

On Friday, overhead a guy in my office (two doors down from me thankfully) talking to another guy about how he and his whole family had Covid right now, but it was so mild he didn't feel sick enough to stay home. Thanks dickhead, lucky for you but I'm not that eager to strap on a case since I'm in my 50s and obese.  And I have a cruise coming up and I don't want to catch this crud.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Paper_jam said:

And I have a cruise coming up and I don't want to catch this crud.

A cruise you say? You have other diseases to worry about.

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On 12/4/2025 at 11:06 AM, Anastasis said:

ACIP meeting today and tomorrow, looks like today will focus on birth dose of Hep B vaccine, with a vote scheduled. Tomorrow appears to be a broader discussion of the evolution of the vaccine guidance in US with comparison particularly to other developed countries. 

 

Here is the vote language today.

Hepatitis B Vaccination in Children Born to Mothers who test HBsAg-negative

Vote Language, 12/3/25

VOTE 1

ACIP recommends a birth dose of Hepatitis B virus (HBV) vaccine and Hepatitis B Immunoglobulin for infants born to women who test HBsAg-positive. ACIP recommends individual-based decision-making, in consultation with a health care provider, for parents deciding whether to give the HBV vaccine birth dose to infants born to women who are HBsAg-negative or whose HBsAg status is unknown. Parents should consult with health care providers and decide when or if their child will begin the HBV vaccine series. Parents and health care providers should consider vaccine benefits, vaccine risks, and infection risks. For those not receiving the HBV birth dose, it is suggested that the initial dose is administered no earlier than 2 months of age. Y/N

VOTE 2

When evaluating the need for subsequent HBV vaccine dose in children, parents should consult with health care providers to determine if a post-vaccination anti-HBs serology testing should be offered prior to subsequent HBV vaccine dose administration. Serology results should determine whether the established protective anti-HBs titer threshold of ≥10 mIU/mL has been achieved. The cost of this testing should be covered by insurance. Y/N

"So then I thought, 'When is my newborn going to be visiting Haiti again?'"

10 hours ago, Paper_jam said:

And I have a cruise coming up and I don't want to catch this crud

Ever heard of cognitive dissonance?

55 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Ever heard of cognitive dissonance?

that's one of those bands lobo wanted to form isn't it?

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