December 3, 20241 yr What better news to start this thread with than this? That leaves two offensive commits - we'll see if they stick with new OC Ben Arbuckle coming in. 4-star Long Beach (CA) Narbonne QB Jaden O'Neal: https://www.on3.com/db/jaden-oneal-155076/ 4-star Frisco (TX) Lone Star TE Ryder Mix: https://www.on3.com/db/ryder-mix-176969/ Edited December 17, 20241 yr by texifornia
January 29Jan 29 4 hours ago, texifornia said: https://247sports.com/player/daniel-odom-46134642/ Now we wait until June he de-xommits
February 26Feb 26 No sky is falling doom shit, but this is a really good hire for them imo. He was the Executive Director of the Senior bowl. He definitely has an eye for talent.
February 26Feb 26 5 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said: No sky is falling doom shit, but this is a really good hire for them imo. He was the Executive Director of the Senior bowl. He definitely has an eye for talent. Real.Recruiting. Nagy didn't offer Diamond in the rough, 3 star takes.. In Nagy we trust.. Anymore I miss?
February 26Feb 26 14 minutes ago, Atticus said: Meh hire, and it isn’t gonna fix their problems I'd argue it's a good hire AND doesn't fix the problems.
February 26Feb 26 20 minutes ago, kilroydos said: I'd argue it's a good hire AND doesn't fix the problems. It’s only a good hire if the guy is calling the shots on personnel, like a NFL GM. And that’s assuming that he’s actually good at that these days. It’s bizarre looking from my view. It pleases me. OU looks lost at that this point.
February 26Feb 26 21 minutes ago, closetojumping said: It’s only a good hire if the guy is calling the shots on personnel, like a NFL GM. And that’s assuming that he’s actually good at that these days. It’s bizarre looking from my view. It pleases me. OU looks lost at that this point. No offense Mr. Jumping, but we have been lost for around 4-5 years.
February 26Feb 26 It might be a good hire but will it matter when he only has the chance to help find players in the Spring portal and Venables gets canned
February 26Feb 26 38 minutes ago, closetojumping said: It’s only a good hire if the guy is calling the shots on personnel, like a NFL GM. And that’s assuming that he’s actually good at that these days. It’s bizarre looking from my view. It pleases me. OU looks lost at that this point. He may be good at evaluating players going to college for his Senior Bowl duties, but is that apples to apples for the HS to college transition. The skills involved are the same / very similar, but obviously at a different point of development.
February 26Feb 26 Would this hire have saved Charlie Strong's job? There's your answer for Oklahoma. Edited February 26Feb 26 by kevwun
February 26Feb 26 1 hour ago, kevwun said: Would this hire have saved Charlie Strong's job? There's your answer for Oklahoma. You love to see it….
February 26Feb 26 2 hours ago, Atticus said: Meh hire, and it isn’t gonna fix their problems They could always try shock therapy 1 hour ago, Pdawg88 said: No offense Mr. Jumping, but we have been lost for around 4-5 years. Don't call him "Mr. jumping". He's a degenerate. He spews verbal retardation. This is a message board, not a hearing in congress
February 27Feb 27 3 hours ago, Funk Doctor Spock said: They could always try shock therapy Don't call him "Mr. jumping". He's a degenerate. He spews verbal retardation. This is a message board, not a hearing in congress Well yeah, everyone on Surly is a degenerate
February 27Feb 27 1 hour ago, Pdawg88 said: Well yeah, everyone on Surly is a degenerate It's why we're all here to congregate
February 27Feb 27 6 hours ago, Funk Doctor Spock said: Don't call him "Mr. jumping". He's a degenerate. He spews verbal retardation. This is a message board, not a hearing in congress Well said Doctor Spock. We will now hear from the mirror fogging regard from ponchatula. Mr Carton, you have five minutes. Edited February 27Feb 27 by Vertigo
February 28Feb 28 On 2/26/2025 at 3:25 PM, Pdawg88 said: No offense Mr. Jumping, but we have been lost for around 4-5 years. That's fucking dumb. Five seasons ago OU went 9-2, won the conference, won the Sugar Bowl and finished #6 in the AP poll Four seasons ago they went 11-2 and finished #10 in the AP poll. OU has been lost since they drank the Kool Aid about how shitty Lincoln Riley was and that the secret sauce at OU was the culture. Then believed they could bring back a guy who had NEVER been a head coach, who put together a staff only slightly better than Charlie Strong did at Texas, then signed him to an extention and now are in the wilderness until they can raise enough to make him go away and bring in someone who is actually good. 4-5 years?! Fuck off.
February 28Feb 28 1 hour ago, NoName said: That's fucking dumb. Five seasons ago OU went 9-2, won the conference, won the Sugar Bowl and finished #6 in the AP poll Four seasons ago they went 11-2 and finished #10 in the AP poll. OU has been lost since they drank the Kool Aid about how shitty Lincoln Riley was and that the secret sauce at OU was the culture. Then believed they could bring back a guy who had NEVER been a head coach, who put together a staff only slightly better than Charlie Strong did at Texas, then signed him to an extention and now are in the wilderness until they can raise enough to make him go away and bring in someone who is actually good. 4-5 years?! Fuck off. OU never hires coaches who have been a head coach. They've hired two since WWII and both of them lasted one year. All the rest of their head coaches were previously assistants.
March 1Mar 1 5 minutes ago, SL Xpress said: OU never hires coaches who have been a head coach. They've hired two since WWII and both of them lasted one year. All the rest of their head coaches were previously assistants. That's a wild stat and absolutely correct, so my bad there. To be fair a bunch of those hires were internally promoted, but still. Edited March 1Mar 1 by NoName
March 1Mar 1 You are your QB. Their QBs were good, they were good. Their QBs were garbage, they were garbage.
March 1Mar 1 3 hours ago, NoName said: That's fucking dumb. Five seasons ago OU went 9-2, won the conference, won the Sugar Bowl and finished #6 in the AP poll Four seasons ago they went 11-2 and finished #10 in the AP poll. OU has been lost since they drank the Kool Aid about how shitty Lincoln Riley was and that the secret sauce at OU was the culture. Then believed they could bring back a guy who had NEVER been a head coach, who put together a staff only slightly better than Charlie Strong did at Texas, then signed him to an extention and now are in the wilderness until they can raise enough to make him go away and bring in someone who is actually good. 4-5 years?! Fuck off. If you look back at those last teams that Lincoln had and don’t think they were shit I don’t know what to tell you. They won a bunch of close games to shitty teams. You could tell years ago that they were in the way down. Beating up on the Big12 and then getting smacked in the playoffs.
March 1Mar 1 7 hours ago, ClubWhatever said: You are your QB. Their QBs were good, they were good. Their QBs were garbage, they were garbage. I do think the Littrell situation fucked up Jackson Arnold something fierce. He's going to be better outside of Norman in the future.
March 1Mar 1 12 hours ago, Pdawg88 said: If you look back at those last teams that Lincoln had and don’t think they were shit I don’t know what to tell you. They won a bunch of close games to shitty teams. You could tell years ago that they were in the way down. Beating up on the Big12 and then getting smacked in the playoffs. Sorry but you can't be in the wilderness and go 11-2
March 1Mar 1 6 hours ago, kilroydos said: I do think the Littrell situation fucked up Jackson Arnold something fierce. He's going to be better outside of Norman in the future. We will see. The next great Guyer QB will be the first.
March 1Mar 1 8 hours ago, kilroydos said: I do think the Littrell situation fucked up Jackson Arnold something fierce. He's going to be better outside of Norman in the future. On this board, we were selling Arnold before he ever stepped onto your campus. He’s a camp hero with a helicopter parent from a system offense with no elite skills. He had no business being ranked the way he was. Contrarian rubes like that fatfuck pedophile Mike Farrell ranked him over Arch Manning … just because. They wanted everyone to know how smart they are. Arnold may play better at Auburn, but there’s nothing there to get excited about other than his overrated recruit ranking pedigree.
March 1Mar 1 It is still puzzling to me (other than $$$) that a head coach who is so lacking in understanding of how to football, that he dumps Gabriel for Arnold, still has a job.
March 1Mar 1 29 minutes ago, closetojumping said: On this board, we were selling Arnold before he ever stepped onto your campus. He’s a camp hero with a helicopter parent from a system offense with no elite skills. He had no business being ranked the way he was. Contrarian rubes like that fatfuck pedophile Mike Farrell ranked him over Arch Manning … just because. They wanted everyone to know how smart they are. Arnold may play better at Auburn, but there’s nothing there to get excited about other than his overrated recruit ranking pedigree. The fact that he hit the open market and his best offer was a bad Auburn team with a HC about to be fired says a lot. If he were good, any number of good teams would have offered.
March 1Mar 1 Just now, Aqua Buddha said: The fact that he hit the open market and his best offer was a bad Auburn team with a HC about to be fired says a lot. If he were good, any number of good teams would have offered. His performance and the fact that he got benched for a stretch last year tanked his value, no question. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I think his preparation and coaching situation were so incredibly poor that it's hard to imagine him not having a better season in the next two years. He's not winning a Heisman or anything, but if he can regain some confidence and get into a system that allows him to see the field without running for his life after the first read, he's going to be fine.
March 1Mar 1 1 hour ago, Tex Long said: It is still puzzling to me (other than $$$) that a head coach who is so lacking in understanding of how to football, that he dumps Gabriel for Arnold, still has a job. How much say did he have in that decision? The NIL money men would have roasted him alive if he kept Gabriel at the expense of Arnold last off-season. He still may have preferred Arnold over Gabriel but I don't think that decision was entirely in his hands. Edited March 1Mar 1 by HuttNuts Edit: He still is regarded for all kinds of other reasons
March 1Mar 1 Just now, HuttNuts said: How much say did he have in that decision? The NIL money men would have roasted him alive if he kept Gabriel at the expense of Arnold last off-season. He still may have preferred Arnold over Gabriel but I don't think that decision was entirely in his hands. Then he's a fucking moron. But we already knew that.
March 1Mar 1 3 hours ago, Pdawg88 said: He will be gone after this year so it doesn’t matter He should be, but I think it may depend on whether a sooner alum will step up with a bag of cash to send him on his way.
March 1Mar 1 5 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said: The fact that he hit the open market and his best offer was a bad Auburn team with a HC about to be fired says a lot. If he were good, any number of good teams would have offered. To be fair, if your top 5 receivers play less than 200 snaps combined, you are going to struggle. Add in missing in the offensive lineman portal, and their schedule, you are gonna struggle. however, when he played the bowl game the season before, he had some highs, but the same issues followed him. Happy feet, no read progression, and getting the ball out late. OU hiring Littrell, who had never coached QBs ever didn’t help. they’ll be better this year, if healthy.
March 1Mar 1 59 minutes ago, Tex Long said: He should be, but I think it may depend on whether a sooner alum will step up with a bag of cash to send him on his way. Apparently $34.9m after the end of 2025. That's not Jimbo money, but it's not cheap. The key thing is it's not a lump sum, so I don't think there's any question they could afford it. I didn't do a lot of research. Just a quick google search. But the articles I came across whining about UT's schedule compared to the Sooners were awesome.
March 2Mar 2 5 hours ago, Pdawg88 said: He will be gone after this year so it doesn’t matter I doubt it. OU is going to be a good team next year. People haven’t looked at things critically yet, but when they do, they’ll see that OU has a lot going for it. The schedule is unforgiving, but getting to 8-5 is a solid outcome and Castiglione isn’t an idiot. 2026 could be hideous. 53 minutes ago, SL Xpress said: Apparently $34.9m after the end of 2025. That's not Jimbo money, but it's not cheap. The key thing is it's not a lump sum, so I don't think there's any question they could afford it. I didn't do a lot of research. Just a quick google search. But the articles I came across whining about UT's schedule compared to the Sooners were awesome. OU is having all kinds of panic regarding the House settlement and competing in NIL. They’re worried more about ensuring softball and gymnastics remain competitive than figuring out a new way squeeze blood from the stone in football. That’s a seachange driven by a clear-eyed view of the landscape as NIL has rapidly changed the game. No one needs 2500 words on how football is OU’s identity and they’ll do whatever it takes. It is known. What is now known as well is that they don’t have the weaponry in storage left to maintain that war. As they retreat and rally the ranks, the hills they’re going to die on are the two in which they honestly think they can continue to win titles.
March 2Mar 2 There’s talk of Harold Hamm endowing the department from my Oklahoma fan friends. Still doesn’t give them the long term artillery to be a continued dominant force. Texas, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, Oregon and Alabama aren’t going anywhere. Aggie shouldn’t either, but I’ve learned Aggie will always Aggie.
March 2Mar 2 1 hour ago, closetojumping said: I doubt it. OU is going to be a good team next year. People haven’t looked at things critically yet, but when they do, they’ll see that OU has a lot going for it. The schedule is unforgiving, but getting to 8-5 is a solid outcome and Castiglione isn’t an idiot. 2026 could be hideous. OU is having all kinds of panic regarding the House settlement and competing in NIL. They’re worried more about ensuring softball and gymnastics remain competitive than figuring out a new way squeeze blood from the stone in football. That’s a seachange driven by a clear-eyed view of the landscape as NIL has rapidly changed the game. No one needs 2500 words on how football is OU’s identity and they’ll do whatever it takes. It is known. What is now known as well is that they don’t have the weaponry in storage left to maintain that war. As they retreat and rally the ranks, the hills they’re going to die on are the two in which they honestly think they can continue to win titles. Alabama "will do whatever it takes" but if you don't have the money, you don't have the money. They need a new coach, though. Venables ain't it. And if you don't have the right coach it doesn't matter what resources you surround him with. They pulled the trigger too quickly with the extension they gave him, but at that time they thought he was the answer. I still think if they go 6-6/7-5 this year they figure out a way to fire him and hire another up and coming assistant from somewhere and hope they land another moonshot the way they did with Stoops.
March 2Mar 2 2 hours ago, closetojumping said: I doubt it. OU is going to be a good team next year. People haven’t looked at things critically yet, but when they do, they’ll see that OU has a lot going for it. The schedule is unforgiving, but getting to 8-5 is a solid outcome and Castiglione isn’t an idiot. 2026 could be hideous. OU is having all kinds of panic regarding the House settlement and competing in NIL. They’re worried more about ensuring softball and gymnastics remain competitive than figuring out a new way squeeze blood from the stone in football. That’s a seachange driven by a clear-eyed view of the landscape as NIL has rapidly changed the game. No one needs 2500 words on how football is OU’s identity and they’ll do whatever it takes. It is known. What is now known as well is that they don’t have the weaponry in storage left to maintain that war. As they retreat and rally the ranks, the hills they’re going to die on are the two in which they honestly think they can continue to win titles. 8 wins? You can’t be serious!
March 2Mar 2 7 hours ago, Pdawg88 said: He will be gone after this year so it doesn’t matter 35 million buyout if fired in 2025, but monthly not lump sum Sumlin style. Fully guaranteed contract and buyout would be more reasonable. Plus another say 15-20m to buy out a coach. Another 10m for staff. So that's say 30m next year plus whatever they are paying BV. That's a LOT of money.
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