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CEO of UHG Shot and Killed in NYC - WTF is wrong with you New York

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3 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

I am betting the long odds on a Michael Clayton situation. CEO was about to cross street and tell his stockholders UHC is evil and the only way to survive long term is to reorient around the consumer.  Board tells GC to do something about it and GC goes all Tilda Swinton and confusingly orders a hit. 

Spoiler alert man!

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9 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Well, since you mentioned it...

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19 minutes ago, Helobious said:

It’s easy to hold a phone up to your ear and pretend like you’re just a guy walking and talking on the phone instead of someone prowling for your target 

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so where were you Wednesday morning?

23 minutes ago, Helobious said:

It’s easy to hold a phone up to your ear and pretend like you’re just a guy walking and talking on the phone instead of someone prowling for your target 

very good point.

Yeah but like someone mentioned earlier, he showed up right on time. Seems lucky - or maybe he had someone else watching the dude. 

28 minutes ago, Helobious said:

It’s easy to hold a phone up to your ear and pretend like you’re just a guy walking and talking on the phone instead of someone prowling for your target 

 

26 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Have none of you done the fake call/pretending to talk on your cell phone routine when walking in sketch areas and/or trying to blend in and out? 

This, beat me to it.

Well, now we know for sure he wasn't acting alone.

 

13 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

 

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I'm not sure anyone has ever looked hotter in the history of the world than Salma Hayek did in that scene in From Dusk 'Til Dawn.

Now I'm reading that Thompson and his wife were separated and perhaps have been for quite some time.

41 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Yeah but like someone mentioned earlier, he showed up right on time.

Definitely not a black dude.

/no racist

4 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Definitely not a black dude.

/no racist

Being early cost Vincent Vega his life...

2 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

What’s interesting from a societal standpoint is this guy and situation is more popular and has more viewing interest and intrigue than the bomb Joker 2. I guess we like our Arthur Blank crack-ups with less song and dance.

Straight business.

Don’t have time to read all 12 pages. I’m ina group chat with some old operator buddies.  Def looks professional.  Someone hired a hitman type revenge. Health care related not fucking someone’s wife related is the guess. But this wasn’t some mad scorned husband. This dude was trained up 

19 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Don’t have time to read all 12 pages. I’m ina group chat with some old operator buddies.  Def looks professional.  Someone hired a hitman type revenge. Health care related not fucking someone’s wife related is the guess. But this wasn’t some mad scorned husband. This dude was trained up 

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4 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

My daughter broke her foot in HS.  We went to the pharmacy to get her a walking boot -- $50.  At the register, the clerk tells us that insurance will cover this.  With insurance, the price was $125, and we had a $100 deductible.  I nearly killed someone over that episode, so I kinda understand what happened here...

It does seem like a tactical error on your part with the $100 deductible in play.

23 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Don’t have time to read all 12 pages. I’m ina group chat with some old operator buddies.  Def looks professional.  Someone hired a hitman type revenge. Health care related not fucking someone’s wife related is the guess. But this wasn’t some mad scorned husband. This dude was trained up 

A pro using a suppressor without a Nielsen? Why? Or was he actually using one of those B&T things?

So the suspect came to NYC on a bus from Atlanta on Nov. 24, well before the shooting.

This, beat me to it.

I haven’t, because if I’m someplace remotely sketchy I want to be as alert as possible and have my hands free. But that’s just me.
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Make that 1,777,094 likes......
 
Great.  Now I'm a suspect.

Can’t be on the list more than once.
Don’t have time to read all 12 pages. I’m ina group chat with some old operator buddies.  Def looks professional.  Someone hired a hitman type revenge. Health care related not fucking someone’s wife related is the guess. But this wasn’t some mad scorned husband. This dude was trained up 

I’ve read on some gun forums that the didn’t think he necessarily was. First shot to the leg and all.
19 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

I think it's mostly just New Yorkers being New Yorkers. Life goes on.

Ob-la-di, ob-la-da

A pro using a suppressor without a Nielsen? Why? Or was he actually using one of those B&T things?

If it was truly a suppressor, there’s a bigger chance it was homemade or some type of solvent trap as opposed to legal.
58 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Don’t have time to read all 12 pages. I’m ina group chat with some old operator buddies.  Def looks professional.  Someone hired a hitman type revenge. Health care related not fucking someone’s wife related is the guess. But this wasn’t some mad scorned husband. This dude was trained up 

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7 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The govt programs (Medicare and Medicaid) only survive because commercially insured patients cover the real costs of doctors and hospitals. If we all switch to a govt system, the costs will go drastically up and/or care goes down.

someone like Bernie goes on how much people love Medicare but he never addresses the other side of the equation.

and I’m fine if we all switch to single payer if that is what we are agree about but realize that wait times will go up and care will go down. This type of system will negatively impact the vast majority. The poor and the wealthy will be the ones who benefit.

I'm several hours behind because I've been driving all day and have just finished settling into my humble abode, so apologies if this has already been addressed. Everything you've said here is total bullshit. Other industrialized Western nations with universal coverage spend about HALF the amount on healthcare we do (18% of GDP in the US vs. 9% across most of Europe), but they have BETTER patient outcomes.

I've noted the comments on the British system (hospitals: government-owned, healthcare providers: government employees), which is widely viewed as one of the worst systems in Western Europe. I think Canada has pretty much the same model. But guess what? Both are still doing better than we are. As for myself, I have personal experience with the French system and received excellent care with zero wait time. They blow us out of the fucking water. There, the hospitals and healthcare providers are generally private, but the insurance is government-provided.

Multiple models of managing all this exist, but we've somehow chosen the absolutely WORST option and have gaslighted ourselves by thinking we've got it good here. Again, it's fucking bullshit.

Profiteering off sick and/or dying people is depraved, immoral, and anti-Christian (for those of you who are believers).

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6 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

I haven’t, because if I’m someplace remotely sketchy I want to be as alert as possible and have my hands free. But that’s just me.

 

59 minutes ago, Blotto said:

It does seem like a tactical error on your part with the $100 deductible in play.

I know this is going to surprise a lot of you, but there was a wife involved who I didn't mention. 

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On 12/4/2024 at 7:11 PM, chainsaw said:

For all we know the gunman was a GP. Speaking as a guy with a lot of physician friends, there's no hatred quite like the hate their small offices have for the insurance companies they waste hours on the phone with every week.

Big office here.  Hate them every bit as much.  Maybe this will lead to some good.  

5 hours ago, shakahorn said:

Not sure if it's hilarious or sad that the reward for information leading to the suspect is $10.000.  Just reading this thread at the millions and billions being thrown around and the reward is only $10,000.

The dead asshole made $10 million last year, right? Suppose he works 250 eight-hour days a year, which translates to $40,000 each day. That piddling reward for info on his murder would be equal to two hours of his day.

Given that he's actually a taker and not a maker, maybe that's what his pathetic life really is worth to society.

1 hour ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Don’t have time to read all 12 pages. I’m ina group chat with some old operator buddies.  Def looks professional.  Someone hired a hitman type revenge. Health care related not fucking someone’s wife related is the guess. But this wasn’t some mad scorned husband. This dude was trained up 

Thank gawd you showed up with that original valuable information! 

We spent 12 pages thinking that Hunter Biden was the shooter!

12 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If anyone is cheering this guys death, they should most likely also be happy if their bosses at work are murdered for the same reason. If you work at a large employer, your employer is the one indirectly turning down any claim. They assume the financial risk not the ins company. The ins company is only handling the admin work for a fee.

Ask your ceo about the percentage of employee claims that are denied? Zero chance that he will want to discuss that or get back to you. They hide behind the insurance companies.

Yeah, I'd be ok if someone decided to whack my company's CEO as well.  What's your point?

On 12/4/2024 at 10:31 AM, Degenerate Gardner said:

At least the death was quick with no medical bankruptcy preceding it as many of their customers experienced. Still, murder probably isn’t the most effective way to change a fucked for profit healthcare system.

It's like you won't even give it a chance to work.

8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Except now....maybe some of those fellas will think "huh....maybe I need to give a fuck?"

Narrator: They won't.

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37 minutes ago, bolverk said:

The dead asshole made $10 million last year, right? Suppose he works 250 eight-hour days a year, which translates to $40,000 each day.

Good point. United Health just increased quarterly profits by $1.2M since he was offed a month before close. Could be a company cost saving measure.

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8 hours ago, workswithseed said:

The Sword of Damocles stuff here. Be at the top, your choices get people killed, you'll have to live that some will kill you.

Thought about and decided to draw it.

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9 hours ago, B00M said:

That’s an amateur with a gun hobby and a grudge. He knew enough about guns to overcome the malfunctions and squeeze off 3 well aimed shots, but he left 3 unspent rounds on the sidewalk. 

Based on the info that came out about the unspent rounds, that wasn't carelessness... it was a message.

 

 

8 hours ago, crash_davis said:

I want to believe this policy announcement was made by one of Lou's underling's in order to have a shot at the top spot.

4 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

What was supposedly written on the rounds on the ground?

Deny, defend, depose

2 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Deny, defend, depose

Title of a book on health insurer BS.  Laughed at initial responses wondering if it was job related.  Anyone in healthcare knew it was 99% job related.  Especially anyone working in that industry.  

On 12/4/2024 at 4:32 PM, MAUFRAIS said:

Just ask what name they wrote on his cup. Duh.

They's usin code names.

Just now, Ted Lange said:

A breakdown of where we are at and what we know 

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1 hour ago, Chopper said:

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I smiled at “buttheads” but then things got really sad. It’s a good letter but the salutation really was a head fake, “buttheads” might fit some sort of fixable billing shenanigans but denying pediatric chemo patients anti-nausea meds earns at the very least “dickheads.” 

7 hours ago, shakahorn said:

Not sure if it's hilarious or sad that the reward for information leading to the suspect is $10.000.  Just reading this thread at the millions and billions being thrown around and the reward is only $10,000.

Would take way more than $10k for me to roll on this guy if I had any idea where he was…just sayin

On 12/4/2024 at 5:08 PM, Brisketexan said:

Got a daughter living in the UK.  Recently diagnosed with a serious, chronic illness.  Had no problem getting in with a GP, who was thorough, ordered detailed bloodwork, and followed up promptly after the bloodwork came in.

The stories of the wait times for care in the UK and Canada, while having some basis in truth (she dealt with that when living in Canada....but she was also able to find the care she needed in short order, once she worked at it), are vastly overblown.  AND, they ignore the wait times and shortages of specialists for a shitload of care here as well.

No system is perfect.  But among first world systems, ours delivers the worst overall results per dollar spent.  It's not even close.

Not to mention that in the US, you only have good care if you live near certain cities. Birmingham has remarkably good healthcare, as evidenced by my typing here instead of screaming from the pits of Hell. I even have a 15 cent bus from my house to the main UAB clinic if time is leisurely. I hobnob with other patients, people drive hundreds of miles from Mississippi or North Florida, and I hear horror stories about hospitals even 50 miles away out in the counties. Don't get a real illness in Gadsden.

All these people flock here, and incidentally slow me down on days when I drive as they act out the timeless drama "First Day in a Parking Garage." God bless em.

23 hours ago, Nonbryan said:

Why was the shooter wearing a backpack and what was in it?  

That's the way kids roll these days-- always keep the backpack on, never take it off.

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