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  • Patricio Swayze
    Patricio Swayze

    Flipped a board just outside of Austin and found 2 Coachwhips and one Western Diamondback.  The buzz worm tagged one of the coachwhips and he took of.  I can't find anything definitive on whether thei

  • Patricio Swayze
    Patricio Swayze

    Awesome ratsnake SurlyBDR. Well, it was a very active day out in the Katy Prairie.  I figured it would be a good day to go with all the rain that we had, but wasn't expecting all the flooding.  I

  • Patricio Swayze
    Patricio Swayze

    I thought I was going to find a bunch of cool snakes today.  Only saw two ribbon snakes.  However, one was being eaten by a hawk, so that is pretty cool.  Not the best or sharpest shots, but still coo

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Our dog has started to relax behind/under some bushes next to the house. Over the years, I've found numerous smaller diamond backs close by. Question, will snakes avoid an area if it "smells" like a potential predator is active in the area?

I honestly don’t know but I am inclined to think not particularly. Maybe someone else has a good answer.
2 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:


I honestly don’t know but I am inclined to think not particularly. Maybe someone else has a good answer.

I don't think the smell of predators deters snakes. But predators like cats and dogs can kill or drive away rodents. That in turn results in fewer snakes around, since they are generally looking for food.

Edit to add, this is to @Steel Shank, get your dog the snake vaccine at the vet. Its cheap and it works.

Edited by texastough

@texastough Thanks. He's been given the shot, so he's covered, plus the vet is just around the corner. 

 

Appreciate the help, gentlemen, I mean, surly assholes. 😉

22 minutes ago, texastough said:

get your dog the snake vaccine at the vet. Its cheap and it works.

How have I never heard of this? Badass invention

Also, do the moth balls really work to ward off snakes sneks?

Edited by Steel Shank
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Not sure about sneks, but moth crystals work on scorpions. Never saw one as long as I remembered to refresh every 2-3 months.

14 hours ago, Steel Shank said:

Also, do the moth balls really work to ward off snakes sneks?

No, they don't. There is not a product that you can spread to keep snakes away. Full stop, period. Keeping the area around your house free of brush/debris, and free of rodents is how you keep snakes away.

13 hours ago, Steel Shank said:

Also, do the moth balls really work to ward off snakes sneks?

Was told to use the crystals, that the naphthalene really irritated/burned their belly scales.

1 hour ago, JMFP said:

Was told to use the crystals, that the naphthalene really irritated/burned their belly scales.

Nothing actually works.  Spreading moth balls or crystals around your yard isn't a good idea.  Naphthalene is a pesticide that isn't great for the environment, is toxic to pets, and could kill plants.

1 hour ago, capnamerca said:

No, they don't. There is not a product that you can spread to keep snakes away. Full stop, period. Keeping the area around your house free of brush/debris, and free of rodents is how you keep snakes away.

Outdoor cats are pretty good at keeping them away, or well keeping them decapitated in your back yard. I'd rather have snakes than cats though.

Edited by SimonBolivar

54 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Outdoor cats are pretty good at keeping them away, or well keeping them decapitated in your back yard. I'd rather have snakes than cats though.

Definitely pro-snake when it comes to cats, also pro-coyote when it comes to cats.

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Outdoor cats are pretty good at keeping them away, or well keeping them decapitated in your back yard. I'd rather have snakes than cats though.

Problem with outdoor cats is they also kill birds and disrupt the ecosystem.
1 hour ago, Jerry Callo said:

Nothing actually works.  Spreading moth balls or crystals around your yard isn't a good idea.  Naphthalene is a pesticide that isn't great for the environment, is toxic to pets, and could kill plants.

I throw them under my shed. Dog aint' getting under there and I don't give a shit about the flora that doesn't grow under it. 

12 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Not snek, but Chonkasaurus:

 

 

Just finding this thread.  I live in a rural area (NE TX) plus I do a fair bit of hiking so I see quite a few sneks.  Oddly enough, despite growing up in the country, I have never seen a coral or rattlesnake in the wild.  Nor have a ever seen a scorpion in the wild except for a recent trip to Zambia where I found one in my hotel room.  Have seen my fair share of copperheads, watermoccasins, and a wide assortment of nonvenemous sneks.

The below snek was at least 4' long.  Not sure what he is as it scampered away before I could get out of the truck for a closer look.image.thumb.jpeg.ab7442aa16d4d13cb5803d331d6a07fc.jpeg

My son is working for a junk removal company. He is supposed the haul off this pile of crap at a cell tower site.  He was advised to either nope out if possible or proceed with extreme caution.

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Autocorrect blows.

Today I learned (thanks to PS) that timbers are also called canebreaks.

 

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13 hours ago, burntorangebongos said:

Mean snek tried to bites him! 
 

 

That doesn't seem possible.  The snake is stretched out and not coiled - I don't see how it could jump up in the air and lunge.

Unsurprising development is unsurprising:  more than one.  They extracted what they could and left the rest.  That paycheck does not justify that kind of a risk.

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31 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I think I count 4.

At least 3. Bet there's a lot more than that though. Fuck that place.

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At least 3. Bet there's a lot more than that though. Fuck that place.

I want to go to that place.
2 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I think I count 4.

You missed all the long thin black things that are most certainly additional sneks. 

What is that one? Pretty sure it’s the same kind I’ve chased off my patio a couple of times now.

Indeed a rat. 
 

Pops been relocating it from the side of their garage to the woods for the last week. Said it’s been a bit aggressive about it all.

 

2 hours ago, thunderlounge said:

Indeed a rat. 
 

Pops been relocating it from the side of their garage to the woods for the last week. Said it’s been a bit aggressive about it all.

 

I had a Rat Snake that kept coming back to my deck. I documented it with pictures on this thread a long time ago. Turns out there was a hole in the soffit that a sparrow had decided to nest in. I got rid of the nest and patched the hole, took the snake far away and the problem went away. I'd guess there is an attractive nuisance, somewhere near the garage, at play.

2 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

That was one thought I had. The other was maybe their own  nest was somewhere real close. 

They can be persistent fuckers. Good thing they are harmless.

ETA: Nice to see your Pops isn't a hoe to the head kinda guy. Good for him.

Edited by Shoxthemonkey

Sorry for the shit pic, but I was trying to keep my dog from attacking the dude. I think this is a coachwhip. Super long and skinny, kept its head 4-6" off the ground when moving like it was a cobra. I was moving our redneck pool and it was under it. Scared the shit out of me at first. Then saw it was a good snek.
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1 minute ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Correct ID.

They eat rattler babies right? I saw 5 rattlers today, from juvenile to a huge fucker while doing tractor work at the ranch. Rattlers are everywhere here.

They eat rattler babies right? I saw 5 rattlers today, from juvenile to a huge fucker while doing tractor work at the ranch. Rattlers are everywhere here.
Yes. I'd want that coachwhip around if you're seeing rattlesnakes.
Just now, Jerry Callo said:
4 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:
They eat rattler babies right? I saw 5 rattlers today, from juvenile to a huge fucker while doing tractor work at the ranch. Rattlers are everywhere here.

Yes. I'd want that coachwhip around if you're seeing rattlesnakes.

Sweet. Well it went unmolested other than accidentally disturbing its temporary home.

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I actually just missed a coachwhip this evening. Took a drive with my pops through Aransas Wildlife Refuge. Saw it on the road by
It some floridas asshole was right on my ass driving too fast through the park. I pulled off the road and turned around but by this point he was starting to move and I as approached he bolted. Only saw two other snakes but not close enough to ID, but I suspect checkered garter and ribbon.

20 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I actually just missed a coachwhip this evening. Took a drive with my pops through Aransas Wildlife Refuge. Saw it on the road by
It some floridas asshole was right on my ass driving too fast through the park. I pulled off the road and turned around but by this point he was starting to move and I as approached he bolted. Only saw two other snakes but not close enough to ID, but I suspect checkered garter and ribbon.

I need to get you out here. Mostly rattlesnakes but I bet you would find the coachwhips. I have seen several but they usually bolt super fast. This one lingered. I actually thought I was shooting a video and only after it took off, realized it was that one pic. Fml.

I actually just missed a coachwhip this evening. Took a drive with my pops through Aransas Wildlife Refuge. Saw it on the road by
It some floridas asshole was right on my ass driving too fast through the park. I pulled off the road and turned around but by this point he was starting to move and I as approached he bolted. Only saw two other snakes but not close enough to ID, but I suspect checkered garter and ribbon.
Coachwhips are really fast. I had a 6 footer for a while in 6th grade. A buddy and I traded an Alligator lizard we caught for the coachwhip.

Herp trade with a middle school science teacher. I can't imagine a teacher giving a six foot snake to two 6th graders these days.

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