July 5Jul 5 Popular Post 1 minute ago, utee94 said: Listen that's fine, but it's clearly a topic for another forum on this very message board I don't think it can be parsed that fine. This is thread for the July 4 floods, period. There was a press conference. It was a circle jerk. People are angry that they aren't getting information. It's not "CR" to be angry about a lack of information due to grandstanding politicians. There is no way to split hairs between threads to that degree. No way.
July 5Jul 5 6 minutes ago, NorthLoop said: See below I was talking about the morons who support them.
July 5Jul 5 3 minutes ago, troph said: Rudy during 9/11 comes to mind, CA wildfires come to mind, I remember the Bastrop fire pressers being informative, that’s just off the top of my head. Which fires? There were 2. And HEB and USAA were there before the state
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post 5 hours ago, Nicole44 said: I cannot either. When I was a camper for 8 years at Waldemar (I went first session so all of June) and we rarely had rain. So to see all this devastation and destruction is difficult to comprehend. I cannot fathom how the residents feel. I was just a summer camper and one time counselor. There for a couple of weeks and then gone. All of their stuff is gone. this ain’t a joke cuz I see what the rebuilding efforts in North Carolina. They need to get some Amish in Kerrville once it’s safe to start the demolition process, I cannot wrap my head around this loss of life along with the utter decimation of both Hunt and Kerrville and other places we aren’t posting about much or focusing on. Damn. so our bitch ass lakes better show some appreciation and get their asses full. I’ve seen this twice now in your posts, please stop ending them with “the lakes better fill up.” It’s fucking crass, akin to human sacrifice. Fucking stop it, please. 3 hours ago, Texas Fight said: Which camp, that you personally know of, was not “monitoring this 24/7 and did not have an evacuation plan”? Pretty simple question unless you are just a sensationalist trying to stir the pot with shit you have no knowledge of. How do I know no one was monitoring, or they didn’t have a plan, or there was negligence? Because a fuck ton of fucking little girls are dead, motherfucker. Either they didn’t have a plan, they didn’t have someone monitoring, or the person monitoring was negligent and fell asleep or fucked off to do whatever. Because the people sounding alarms were consistent from 12 hours before and got increasingly urgent through the night and finally issued a warning that could have gotten girls out of cabins before they woke up “by water at their chins.” The kids aren’t woken up by the water itself unless, somewhere, there is fucking negligence. The proof is the dead children.
July 5Jul 5 1 minute ago, troph said: Rudy during 9/11 comes to mind, CA wildfires come to mind, I remember the Bastrop fire pressers being informative, that’s just off the top of my head. Ah the good old salad days of youth when we had lauded leadership by such solid humans as Rudy Drooliani. My how far we have fallen.
July 5Jul 5 1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said: I don't think it can be parsed that fine. This is thread for the July 4 floods, period. There was a press conference. It was a circle jerk. People are angry that they aren't getting information. It's not "CR" to be angry about a lack of information due to grandstanding politicians. There is no way to split hairs between threads to that degree. No way.
July 5Jul 5 6 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said: Come on man. CR this shit. Some of us care about news. Well they didn’t give it to you. Hence why people are pissed.
July 5Jul 5 6 minutes ago, Lhorn said: Pic taken at the camp. Completely heartbreaking. Yeahhhh didn't need to see that.
July 5Jul 5 Just now, troph said: It could fill but I’m not convinced it will. The next 20 feet are a lot more voluminous and as a designated flood control lake it has 40 more feet available for fill. Bet you $50 to your favorite charity it fills and separately we are releasing water in two weeks from Mansfield
July 5Jul 5 Get ready for mosquitos the size of hummingbirds.I'm from Minnesota. I've seen mosquitoes pick up a Buick.
July 5Jul 5 3 minutes ago, troph said: It could fill but I’m not convinced it will. The next 20 feet are a lot more voluminous and as a designated flood control lake it has 40 more feet available for fill. How’s your cistern doing? What happens if/when it gets to 100%?
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post 6 hours ago, HenryJames said: 6 hours ago, MissingInAction said: Lots of new developments on the San Gabriel river in Georgetown over the past decade. They are right on the river. 6 hours ago, Orange&White said: Evacuations happening in Georgetown along the San Gabriel River through downtown. Crazy video out there. So I’m a bit of an expert on the San Gabriel, at least for a few hours this morning. Got a call from a relative who lives in one of the flooded RV parks, that the Georgetown police had knocked on her door and told her to GTFO. Wife and I drop kids at friends down the street, head up there in our minivan, expecting to quickly empty much of her RV into it, well at least the important stuff. We get there, water is way up, she’s not leaving because either her RV goes or she doesn’t. She’s got two small dogs and we had them ready to go, but she’s pissed. The hitch in my minivan is good for small boats, kayak trailer, smaller uhaul trailers and bike racks. I’m not driving down into muddy/rocky area and trying to tow an RV that will tax my van - my van is worth more than her RV. Thankfully a friend in the area came through in minutes, got her RV towed to a local school and we moved her and her car up from the park. That shit came up so fast though. There were RVs that had bad wheels or problems or whatever that couldn’t get towed in time. I counted at least a dozen in one small section, which given that I know a few of them, that is their home, so it’s got to be devastating, TLDR: Georgetown PD (or whatever law enforcement agency it was) did good work and got people evacuating. San Gabriel came up really fucking fast. On, and if you live in an RV, don’t own a fucking sedan, own a truck or SUV that can pull said RV instead of relying on family and friends of family to drive up from Central Austin to help you out. Edited July 5Jul 5 by atomheartbevo
July 5Jul 5 15 minutes ago, alexis texas said: Here are a few flood maps that should help clarify the layout of the camp. Thank you for these maps and details. Really lays it out for folks who have not been on property.
July 5Jul 5 2 minutes ago, Born to Run said: Bet you $50 to your favorite charity it fills and separately we are releasing water in two weeks from Mansfield Two weeks? Mansfield? I'll take that bet. The top 20' of Lake Travis are... massive. This is what it's made for.
July 5Jul 5 Just now, TOR said: At least one more confirmed gone, not posting the link but it is on xwitter. Child or adult?
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post Update: 3 p.m. NWS bulletin didn't really have much different.. lots of rain, system not going anywhere significant, hopefully some downshifting with nighttime (although these things can ramp up overnight, one hopes the atmosphere gets some stability and quits for awhile). My hope is that the system will meander slowly to the E, following a track it's already been taking. Today was Austin's day to get the brunt, so hopefully it'll move east of us tonight, as I've posted today. The rains today were decent but definitely more light/moderate than prolonged heavy (and at least there's been movement of the storms and not all that much training, they've been circulating in frontal (i.e. perpendicular to their movement) direction). Tomorrow's forecast is interesting, I'll post iater tonight (not terrible but not particularly the usual). Just want to get more confirmation about it. Anything on your mind hit me up here.
July 5Jul 5 2 minutes ago, royiv said: Child or adult? Young one. Think the bad news is just starting.
July 5Jul 5 1 minute ago, phdhorn said: Update: 3 p.m. NWS bulletin didn't really have much different.. lots of rain, system not going anywhere significant, hopefully some downshifting with nighttime (although these things can ramp up overnight, one hopes the atmosphere gets some stability and quits for awhile). My hope is that the system will meander slowly to the E, following a track it's already been taking. Today was Austin's day to get the brunt, so hopefully it'll move east of us tonight, as I've posted today. The rains today were decent but definitely more light/moderate than prolonged heavy (and at least there's been movement of the storms and not all that much training, they've been circulating in frontal (i.e. perpendicular to their movement) direction). Tomorrow's forecast is interesting, I'll post iater tonight (not terrible but not particularly the usual). Just want to get more confirmation about it. Anything on your mind hit me up here. Is this still tropical and may possibly ramp up again at night or would daytime heating fire the storms up now.
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post Just found out our very good friends lost their toddler while their river house was ripped apart in Kerrville. Mom saved the older child. Absolutely devastating.
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post 6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said: So I’m a bit of an expert on the San Gabriel, at least for a few hours this morning. Got a call from a relative who lives in one of the flooded RV parks, that the Georgetown police had knocked on her door and told her to GTFO. Wife and I drop kids at friends down the street, head up there in our minivan, expecting to quickly empty much of her RV into it, well at least the important stuff. We get there, water is way up, she’s not leaving because either her RV goes or she doesn’t. She’s got two small dogs and we had them ready to go, but she’s pissed. The hitch in my minivan is good for small boats, kayak trailer, smaller uhaul trailers and bike racks. I’m not driving down into muddy/rocky area and trying to tow an RV that will tax my van - my van is worth more than her RV. Thankfully a friend in the area came through in minutes, got her RV towed to a local school and we moved her and her car up from the park. That shit came up so fast though. There were RVs that had bad wheels or problems or whatever that couldn’t get towed in time. I counted at least a dozen in one small section, which given that I know a few of them, that is their home, so it’s got to be devastating, TLDR: Georgetown PD (or whatever law enforcement agency it was) did good work and got people evacuating. San Gabriel came up really fucking fast. On, and if you live in an RV, don’t own a fucking sedan, own a truck or SUV that can pull said RV instead of relying on family and friends of family to drive up from Central Austin to help you out. Typically people that must live in RVs cant afford normal housing. My wife and I did it for 6 months during a remodel. We had 3 cops, several families including many single mothers with 3 kids on one income. Super great families barely getting by. Mostly hardworking kind folk. Changed my perspective.
July 5Jul 5 11 minutes ago, Rip76 said: Is this still tropical and may possibly ramp up again at night or would daytime heating fire the storms up now. Unfortunately, it's tropical and that means a relatively consistent layer of warm air and ground at mid levels. As this air rises it cools and doesn't need the Sun as much. I think they'll definitely be a break after sunset but it could ramp up again early in the morning as the top levels inhale enough warm air to settle down, then cool off, stimulating more lower level convection (rising up into the colled air) and storms. The thing that sucks with these kinds of storms is they're also is helped by daytime heating, although not is violently say as thunderstorm complex with a dry line or something. Edited July 5Jul 5 by phdhorn
July 5Jul 5 Just now, troph said: Watching remotely we have enough overflow valves to be ok. We can even open our hose bibs and drain that way too. Rain at our place is heavy but normal. I think we’ve had 4-5 inches total. We’ve gone from 23,000 gallons to 36,000 and counting. That’s so cool. I’ve said it a bunch of times, but your home fascinates me.
July 5Jul 5 From the NYTimes: Scenes from Camp Mystic a day after the deadly floods. Flood damage at Camp Mystic, near Hunt, Texas, on Saturday. The gates to enter Camp Mystic, where hundreds of children had been rescued from ravaging floods, were open Saturday afternoon, but reaching the area was a major challenge. The roads were badly damaged, with tree limbs and overturned vehicles everywhere. A half-mile, downhill road to Camp Mystic, a Christian summer camp for girls along the Guadalupe River in Kerr County, Texas, led to a wooden sign on a tree that shows two happy girls jumping into the water. Officials said about 750 campers were there this week, and some two dozen girls remained unaccounted for. Behind the sign, there were remnants of a happy summer. Brick picnic tables and chairs sat empty in a desolate park. Canoes were flipped upside down next to a placid lake. A road leading to cabins and other buildings looked impassable. Here are scenes from Camp Mystic on Saturday: The gates to the camp were open on Saturday afternoon, but reaching it was a major challenge. The roads to the camp were badly damaged, with tree limbs and overturned vehicles everywhere. Rescue crews searching the grounds for missing people near Camp Mystic. A camp mailbox was among the debris. Some two dozen campers remained unaccounted for on Saturday.
July 5Jul 5 This was heat of the hills for anyone interested as well. After: IMG_5407.mov Before reference Edited July 5Jul 5 by Dnaguy
July 5Jul 5 Part of Berry Creek in Georgetown runs through the back part of my lot, but I am 30-35 feet up a steep hill/cliff. I went out and looked at the creek at about 9:30 this morning and it was dry, as it usually is. By 11 am it was flowing at about 60 yards wide at a not quite record flow, but pretty close.
July 5Jul 5 14 minutes ago, bonnieblue said: Just found out our very good friends lost their toddler while their river house was ripped apart in Kerrville. Mom saved the older child. Absolutely devastating. This is so fucking terrible.
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post NYTimes Update: Here’s what we know about some of the Texas flood victims. The flooded Guadalupe River near Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas, on Saturday. The flash flooding on the Guadalupe River in Central Texas has killed at least 35 people, including 14 children. Some two dozen girls from Camp Mystic, an all-girls’ Christian summer camp, are still missing. Rescuers have been searching the river Saturday, and the death toll is expected to rise. Here’s what we know about those who were killed. Sarah Marsh Sarah Marsh, an 8-year-old student at Cherokee Bend Elementary in Mountain Brook, Ala., was one of the campers at Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas. In a statement posted online, Stewart Welch, the mayor of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, confirmed that Sarah was among those who died in the flood and said the city was heartbroken. “This is an unimaginable loss for her family, her school and our entire community,” he wrote. “Sarah’s passing is a sorrow shared by all of us, and our hearts are with those who knew her and loved her.” In a text message on Saturday, Sarah’s grandmother, Debbie Ford Marsh, said that Sarah’s parents were not able to talk and declined to comment on behalf of the family. Earlier, on Facebook, she posted: “We will always feel blessed to have had this beautiful spunky ray of light in our lives. She will live on in our hearts forever!” Janie Hunt Janie Hunt, 9, of Dallas, died in the flash flooding, her grandmother Margaret Hunt said in an interview. Janie was also attending Camp Mystic. It was her first time there as a camper, and she attended along with six of her cousins, who were safe, Ms. Hunt said. Ms. Hunt said she was in Vermont when she got a call from her daughter, Anne Lindsay Hunt, telling her about the flooding. Janie’s parents drove to Ingram Elementary, the reunification center, where they were told to visit a funeral home and identify their daughter. Janie is the eldest of three children. Bobby and Amanda Martin Bobby Martin, 46, and his wife, Amanda Martin, 44, were among those killed, Mr. Martin’s father, John Keith Martin, told The New York Times. The couple, from Odessa, Texas, were reportedly camping by the Guadalupe River when their R.V. was swept away by the rising floodwaters. The elder Mr. Martin said one his grandchildren and that grandchild’s girlfriend were with the couple and were still missing. “He was an adventurous man, adventurous and outgoing. He had many good friends, because he was a good friend,” John Keith Martin said of his son. “He’s just incredible.” Jane Ragsdale Jane Ragsdale, the director and co-owner of the Heart O’ the Hills summer camp in Kerr County, is among those confirmed dead in the flooding, according to a statement posted to the camp’s website. No campers were residing at the site when the floods hit. “We at the camp are stunned and deeply saddened by Jane’s death,” the statement said. “She embodied the spirit of Heart O’ the Hills and was exactly the type of strong, joyful woman that the camp aimed to develop with the girls entrusted to us each summer.” Ms. Ragsdale, who became the camp director in 1988, started as a camper and later became a counselor.
July 5Jul 5 1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said: Stop Nicole. Just fucking stop. This is not Lifetime channel. we have members who are grieving. True crime and disasters, the flames to the moth that is Nicole.
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post 55 minutes ago, jkates said: Thanks for providing useful information instead of emotional garbage like all the guys who act like they've never seen a press conference before. 14 children. That they know of. Heartwrenching. I love how you show up to chastise emotional posters here for not giving you information, but you don’t extend that expectation to your elected officials who spend the 30 minutes of a press conference giving no information. I’ve lived through Harvey, which had a new press conference every few hours. I guess my experience with emergency press conferences differs from yours, since apparently your’s all start with a 30 minute dick sucking session and providing zero information about things like missing or dead citizens.
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post We are talking about CR because we have a bunch of bitch ass snowflakes that are offended by reality. The fact they cant see the reality is the problem. Also cry less pussies. Kids died and we have a bunch of grandstanding politicians ignoring their own malfeasance and having the audacity to claim some sort of political win all while making it all about them. They throat the very person that is actively gutting the very thing that could potentially prevent this. What a backwards world we live in that we claim CR on that. Fuck you and I hope you reap the oats you sow you fucking animals.
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post 6 minutes ago, bolverk said: NYTimes Update: Here’s what we know about some of the Texas flood victims. The flooded Guadalupe River near Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas, on Saturday. The flash flooding on the Guadalupe River in Central Texas has killed at least 35 people, including 14 children. Some two dozen girls from Camp Mystic, an all-girls’ Christian summer camp, are still missing. Rescuers have been searching the river Saturday, and the death toll is expected to rise. Here’s what we know about those who were killed. Sarah Marsh Sarah Marsh, an 8-year-old student at Cherokee Bend Elementary in Mountain Brook, Ala., was one of the campers at Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas. In a statement posted online, Stewart Welch, the mayor of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, confirmed that Sarah was among those who died in the flood and said the city was heartbroken. “This is an unimaginable loss for her family, her school and our entire community,” he wrote. “Sarah’s passing is a sorrow shared by all of us, and our hearts are with those who knew her and loved her.” In a text message on Saturday, Sarah’s grandmother, Debbie Ford Marsh, said that Sarah’s parents were not able to talk and declined to comment on behalf of the family. Earlier, on Facebook, she posted: “We will always feel blessed to have had this beautiful spunky ray of light in our lives. She will live on in our hearts forever!” Janie Hunt Janie Hunt, 9, of Dallas, died in the flash flooding, her grandmother Margaret Hunt said in an interview. Janie was also attending Camp Mystic. It was her first time there as a camper, and she attended along with six of her cousins, who were safe, Ms. Hunt said. Ms. Hunt said she was in Vermont when she got a call from her daughter, Anne Lindsay Hunt, telling her about the flooding. Janie’s parents drove to Ingram Elementary, the reunification center, where they were told to visit a funeral home and identify their daughter. Janie is the eldest of three children. Bobby and Amanda Martin Bobby Martin, 46, and his wife, Amanda Martin, 44, were among those killed, Mr. Martin’s father, John Keith Martin, told The New York Times. The couple, from Odessa, Texas, were reportedly camping by the Guadalupe River when their R.V. was swept away by the rising floodwaters. The elder Mr. Martin said one his grandchildren and that grandchild’s girlfriend were with the couple and were still missing. “He was an adventurous man, adventurous and outgoing. He had many good friends, because he was a good friend,” John Keith Martin said of his son. “He’s just incredible.” Jane Ragsdale Jane Ragsdale, the director and co-owner of the Heart O’ the Hills summer camp in Kerr County, is among those confirmed dead in the flooding, according to a statement posted to the camp’s website. No campers were residing at the site when the floods hit. “We at the camp are stunned and deeply saddened by Jane’s death,” the statement said. “She embodied the spirit of Heart O’ the Hills and was exactly the type of strong, joyful woman that the camp aimed to develop with the girls entrusted to us each summer.” Ms. Ragsdale, who became the camp director in 1988, started as a camper and later became a counselor. Pic of Jane and one of my sister's friends my mom just shared with me. Couple thoughts from some girls I grew up with. Both of them are fine young women.
July 5Jul 5 8 minutes ago, bolverk said: NYTimes Update: Here’s what we know about some of the Texas flood victims. The flooded Guadalupe River near Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas, on Saturday. The flash flooding on the Guadalupe River in Central Texas has killed at least 35 people, including 14 children. Some two dozen girls from Camp Mystic, an all-girls’ Christian summer camp, are still missing. Rescuers have been searching the river Saturday, and the death toll is expected to rise. Here’s what we know about those who were killed. Sarah Marsh Sarah Marsh, an 8-year-old student at Cherokee Bend Elementary in Mountain Brook, Ala., was one of the campers at Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas. In a statement posted online, Stewart Welch, the mayor of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, confirmed that Sarah was among those who died in the flood and said the city was heartbroken. “This is an unimaginable loss for her family, her school and our entire community,” he wrote. “Sarah’s passing is a sorrow shared by all of us, and our hearts are with those who knew her and loved her.” In a text message on Saturday, Sarah’s grandmother, Debbie Ford Marsh, said that Sarah’s parents were not able to talk and declined to comment on behalf of the family. Earlier, on Facebook, she posted: “We will always feel blessed to have had this beautiful spunky ray of light in our lives. She will live on in our hearts forever!” Janie Hunt Janie Hunt, 9, of Dallas, died in the flash flooding, her grandmother Margaret Hunt said in an interview. Janie was also attending Camp Mystic. It was her first time there as a camper, and she attended along with six of her cousins, who were safe, Ms. Hunt said. Ms. Hunt said she was in Vermont when she got a call from her daughter, Anne Lindsay Hunt, telling her about the flooding. Janie’s parents drove to Ingram Elementary, the reunification center, where they were told to visit a funeral home and identify their daughter. Janie is the eldest of three children. Bobby and Amanda Martin Bobby Martin, 46, and his wife, Amanda Martin, 44, were among those killed, Mr. Martin’s father, John Keith Martin, told The New York Times. The couple, from Odessa, Texas, were reportedly camping by the Guadalupe River when their R.V. was swept away by the rising floodwaters. The elder Mr. Martin said one his grandchildren and that grandchild’s girlfriend were with the couple and were still missing. “He was an adventurous man, adventurous and outgoing. He had many good friends, because he was a good friend,” John Keith Martin said of his son. “He’s just incredible.” Jane Ragsdale Jane Ragsdale, the director and co-owner of the Heart O’ the Hills summer camp in Kerr County, is among those confirmed dead in the flooding, according to a statement posted to the camp’s website. No campers were residing at the site when the floods hit. “We at the camp are stunned and deeply saddened by Jane’s death,” the statement said. “She embodied the spirit of Heart O’ the Hills and was exactly the type of strong, joyful woman that the camp aimed to develop with the girls entrusted to us each summer.” Ms. Ragsdale, who became the camp director in 1988, started as a camper and later became a counselor. Heard last night about one through her cousin, who’s very good friends with my oldest. I know her parents and entire family. I cannot imagine what they’re going through. This is a nightmare.
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post Found the wife body last night....just found husband within last hour...no kids yet
July 5Jul 5 Popular Post We are talking about CR because we have a bunch of bitch ass snowflakes that are offended by reality. The fact they cant see the reality is the problem. Also cry less pussies. Kids died and we have a bunch of grandstanding politicians ignoring their own malfeasance and having the audacity to claim some sort of political win all while making it all about them. They throat the very person that is actively gutting the very thing that could potentially prevent this. What a backwards world we live in that we claim CR on that. Fuck you and I hope you reap the oats you sow you fucking animals.Quit hogging all the vitriol; leave me some please.
July 5Jul 5 5 minutes ago, King George said: Heard last night about one through her cousin, who’s very good friends with my oldest. I know her parents and entire family. I cannot imagine what they’re going through. This is a nightmare. People here are supposed to believe anything you post now?
July 5Jul 5 2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said: People here are supposed to believe anything you post now? Because I posted a pic of a art of Mystic that didn’t flood, amongst everything else I posted yesterday that was spot on? I guess not man. Jesus.
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