July 4Jul 4 1 minute ago, Gale Snoats said: A lot of information and who knows what’s true but some hope - one of our good friends daughters is named in tha note that Cajun posted and we just heard that the east lands and the 26 young girls are stranded on an island but safe waiting for helicopters to pick them up. I worry about posting inaccurate info but hopeful this is correct We are hearing the same. I know many of the couples with girls in that notice, and I’m currently with a couple that has a daughter at Mystic and son at La Junta (thankfully both accounted for). We heard that news about 30-45 mins ago, just hoping that it’s true.
July 4Jul 4 no cell coverage is a selling point for these camps. make the kids disconnect if flood gauges hit a certain point, sirens need to be going off or something My wife works 12 hours a week at Johnson City ISD, and that redneck place tests the flood siren every day at noon.
July 4Jul 4 There are some swift water teams from San Antonio here. And I hear helicopters, but can’t see them given the weather ceiling. We’re going to do what we can from the ground. There’s plenty for us to do, but, unless I have a Zodiac or a helicopter, my hands are tied.
July 4Jul 4 8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: How fucking difficult would it be for town and county officials to get out ahead of the flooding, drive to the camps and tell them to clear out? This just feels like a huge fuckup. I get the "cry wolf" concern but at some point the adults have to act like adults. There are hundreds of campers and camp employees at each of these. How many large busses do you think are available at a moments notice to evacuate an isolated group like this for a 100+ year flood event? Are they supposed to hike up the flooded highway?
July 4Jul 4 4 minutes ago, C-Man said: I was very good friends at UT with a girl in the family that mostly drowned that night. I think she, her husband and kids and maybe her sister survived. Everybody else drowned — both her parents, BIL and her nieces/nephews. It’s still upsetting to think about. The bodies of the two youngest kids in the house were never found.
July 4Jul 4 1 minute ago, DaysOff said: My wife works 12 hours a week at Johnson City ISD, and that redneck place tests the flood siren every day at noon. alice tx noon blast ! had to let the everyone know it was lunch time
July 4Jul 4 Just now, Jackson P. Neighbors said: There are hundreds of campers and camp employees at each of these. How many large busses do you think are available at a moments notice to evacuate an isolated group like this for a 100+ year flood event? Are they supposed to hike up the flooded highway? “At Comfort, the Guadalupe River surged to 29.86 feet after rising 22 feet in 30 minutes, while at Kerrville it rose 21.6 feet in one hour, now at 11.64 feet.” How the fuck do you get ahead of this?
July 4Jul 4 3 minutes ago, MissingInAction said: Memorial Day and now 4th of July. Our tragic floods sure like the holidays. Don’t forget Halloween 2015.
July 4Jul 4 2 minutes ago, HenryJames said: None of that sounds plausible. Most stories of swift water flooding survival don't.
July 4Jul 4 Just now, HenryJames said: “At Comfort, the Guadalupe River surged to 29.86 feet after rising 22 feet in 30 minutes, while at Kerrville it rose 21.6 feet in one hour, now at 11.64 feet.” How the fuck do you get ahead of this? 22 ft in 30 mins, you're not escaping that in the middle of the night going to be a lot of lost souls. RiP
July 4Jul 4 1 minute ago, HenryJames said: “At Comfort, the Guadalupe River surged to 29.86 feet after rising 22 feet in 30 minutes, while at Kerrville it rose 21.6 feet in one hour, now at 11.64 feet.” How the fuck do you get ahead of this? Particularly at night. You can’t. I won’t be critical of how they handled.
July 4Jul 4 Live coverage from CBS San Antonio: https://www.kens5.com/video/news/live_breaking/kens-5-news-extended-flash-flood-coverage/273-b66a2621-6083-41c2-a324-0ff181b0a672
July 4Jul 4 10 minutes ago, HenryJames said: None of that sounds plausible. 8 minutes ago, King George said: A lot sounds far fetched. Agreed. You don't wake up to chin high water.
July 4Jul 4 15 minutes ago, markstanco said: Im hearing the major flooding is below the Canyon dam. Any truth to that? Too bad for those folks if so. I highly doubt this. I live less than a mile from the dam. It hasn't rained that much here at all.
July 4Jul 4 23 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: How fucking difficult would it be for town and county officials to get out ahead of the flooding, drive to the camps and tell them to clear out? This just feels like a huge fuckup. I get the "cry wolf" concern but at some point the adults have to act like adults. I was in Wimberley during the Memorial Day flood several years ago, and I can tell you this is easier said than done. That downpour came out of nowhere and the rate at which the river rose was incomprehensible. By the time the weather reports/warnings started coming out there was little first responders and officials could do - though I will say they were all over the place doing what they could.
July 4Jul 4 17 minutes ago, markstanco said: Im hearing the major flooding is below the Canyon dam. Any truth to that? Too bad for those folks if so. The camps we’re talking about are all upstream. That’s not to say there isn’t flooding downstream too, but looking at the radar I don’t think you’re getting accurate info.
July 4Jul 4 12 minutes ago, King George said: My daughter is a counsel at a different camp but has a bunch of friends at those camps. She got a text confirming a lot of this. Don’t know how to blur out identifying info so no screenshot but Dick was found w 5 girls 5 miles downstream 6 girls and a counselor still missing 😢
July 4Jul 4 Our kiddos are at Camp OTX outside of Bandera this week. They aren’t near a river…they have a little man made lake that dams upstream of a tributary (at best). They are communicating that everything is fine there and I believe it knowing how it is situated but reading about these other camps is making me sick to my stomach.
July 4Jul 4 The major roads were still open this morning. At least, my daughter went through the area earlier today on her way to Marfa; here is her text at the time: 😭 And, we will never know if warning sirens could have saved lives, just like when the Blanco flooded Wimberley. We will be able to gauge the effectiveness of warning sirens the next time Wimberley floods. And, Texas’ rivers in the Hill Country will flood.
July 4Jul 4 Y'all are right, I was assuming the heavy rain could be forecast & timed to some degree, but this would seem to indicate otherwise (just an example gauge): Edited July 4Jul 4 by jimmyjazz
July 4Jul 4 1 hour ago, royiv said: La Junta has been adamant that all are accounted for. They would be creating a shit storm if they weren’t telling the truth to parents right now. Let’s not spread unsubstantiated information here. There are lots of parents with kids at these camps that are already worried enough. The video of the cabin being washed away posted a few times was from La Junta. It was taken down because parents were pissed that the guy was tweeting so much about it.
July 4Jul 4 1 minute ago, King George said: The video of the cabin being washed away posted a few times was from La Junta. It was taken down because parents were pissed that the guy was tweeting so much about it. Stop it, Rex.
July 4Jul 4 51 minutes ago, Cajun said: God in heaven. From one of my daughters who is tied into the Mystic Alumni scene - I call bullahit on this, I can't imagine anyone posting names of teenage victims already
July 4Jul 4 14 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said: Live coverage from CBS San Antonio: https://www.kens5.com/video/news/live_breaking/kens-5-news-extended-flash-flood-coverage/273-b66a2621-6083-41c2-a324-0ff181b0a672 thanks
July 4Jul 4 51 minutes ago, Homesickhorn said: Waldemar, Loma Linda (Mo Ranch), and Stewart all sit on the north fork (I think)of the Guadalupe. Mystic, Heart of the Hills, Arrowhead, and La Junta all sit on the south fork. I have no idea if it makes a difference, but I’m pretty sure they collide right at Hunt. Hence, La Junta getting absolutely pummeled. Tragic. Prayers for all. Our ranch is 20 miles south of Mystic. Please don't rush to judgement of officials at the various agencies. The most rain fell west of here, and water levels rose 20-30 feet in minutes. Cell phone service is spotty at best all over the Hill Country, much worse during heavy thunderstorms. Driving on the curvy, hilly, tertiary roads is hard in broad daylight, the faster you go the more nauseous you get. At night, in the rain, with every low water crossing full of running water, it is extremely dangerous, and a tin star on your chest doesn't change that. We drove the backroads from Kerrville to Utopia in 2004, the one and only time, and I've probably driven between those towns 50 times in 20 years. 18" of rain in 24 hours, in the Hill Country is catastrophic.
July 4Jul 4 6 minutes ago, royiv said: Stop it, Rex. I don’t know what you’re on about. We have a good friend that went to Waldemar. Her daughter was my daughter’s counselor. Her son is a counselor at La Junta, and a Longhorn. He spent the evening fishing boys out of cabins. He confirmed that video was La Junta. Edited July 4Jul 4 by King George
July 4Jul 4 47 minutes ago, immamac said: Are there any chances it's not the worst case? what is the worst case? 1 is 1 too many
July 4Jul 4 4 minutes ago, Bill Brasky said: I call bullahit on this, I can't imagine anyone posting names of teenage victims already One of the names posted was a name I’ve heard a few times. I think that post is real. Women will post stuff for prayer sake without thinking through the parents might not want to be inundated with people bothering them.
July 4Jul 4 that kens coverage just mentioned missing people from camp mystic. organizing rescue efforts goto any firehouse or ingram elementary (unification center) for info on missing people Edited July 4Jul 4 by tx 3 putt
July 4Jul 4 31 minutes ago, King George said: can we crowdsource this retard for posting so much disinformation?
July 4Jul 4 Looking at the radar, Wimberley may be getting a train of heavy rain over the next several hours. And if the system moves east, the lower Guad may get some as well.
July 4Jul 4 For the worried about flooding below Canyon Lake Dam crowd here. This is the extent of the rise in the Guadalupe River level today. I think you're gonna be fine bros...
July 4Jul 4 Hard to get ahead of this type of flooding. Unreal. Looking back at the radar, this storm exploded and dropped an unprecedented amount of rain at an unprecedented rate at 2am. Sometimes it’s just bad luck and nature.
July 4Jul 4 yeah i don't think people understand. this was literally a wall of water crashing down river. think tsunami though the river valley. or for gulf coaster like myself, a unexpected hurricane storm surge with zero warning at 2am. Edited July 4Jul 4 by FORTY NINE TO ZERO
July 4Jul 4 Just now, Bill Brasky said: can we crowdsource this retard for posting so much disinformation? Hey go for it. I did not post one piece of disinformation.
July 4Jul 4 2 minutes ago, King George said: One of the names posted was a name I’ve heard a few times. I think that post is real. Women will post stuff for prayer sake without thinking through the parents might not want to be inundated with people bothering them. Yup
July 4Jul 4 Looking back at the radar, this storm exploded and dropped an unprecedented amount of rain at an unprecedented rate at 2am. Sometimes it’s just bad luck and nature.What’s a bit odd is that the forecasts seemed to totally miss this risk. There was talk of rain, mostly w of 35, but not of any major flood risk. It’s not common for forecasts to miss so widely these days.
July 4Jul 4 8 minutes ago, Bill Brasky said: I call bullahit on this, I can't imagine anyone posting names of teenage victims already Those names are definitely accurate. And they’re not teenagers, they are 8/9 year olds. Just hoping that the information that a bunch have been found safe is true.
July 4Jul 4 6 minutes ago, King George said: I don’t know what you’re on about. We have a good friend that went to Waldemar. Her daughter was my daughter’s counselor. Her son is a counselor at La Junta, and a Longhorn. He spent the evening fishing boys out of cabins. He confirmed that video was La Junta. Two hours ago you were sure it was Mystic and now you’re sure it’s La Junta. Quit posting unsubstantiated information, Rex.
July 4Jul 4 i remember a big flood that swept through cuero. people were loading trucks and mins later 2 ft of water. that wave hits fast and furious.
July 4Jul 4 30 minutes ago, HenryJames said: “At Comfort, the Guadalupe River surged to 29.86 feet after rising 22 feet in 30 minutes, while at Kerrville it rose 21.6 feet in one hour, now at 11.64 feet.” How the fuck do you get ahead of this? don't build in the 100 or 250 or 500 year flood plain to start with
July 4Jul 4 My personal SE New Braunfels forcefield is currently doing work sending the rest of you rain right up the 35 poop chute. MyRadar 7-4 1-33PM.mp4 Edited July 4Jul 4 by NorthLoop
July 4Jul 4 can we crowdsource this retard for posting so much disinformation? Could explain why there are 16 or so girls in the cabin but only 5-6 are missing. I also have good information that one of the missing ones that I know has been confirmed found downstream alive.
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