January 6Jan 6 Author 2 minutes ago, Longhornlove said: How often did that happen with 20 TDs and 24 INTs? You weren't even alive I'm pretty sure........just like me. He was asked to hand off, pitch the ball, run some and throw 8 times a game.
January 6Jan 6 6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said: Sounds like a defensive struggle. I understand your point. It is still near impossible to compare the eras. Street was 6 of 10 for 124 yards and 2 INTs.
January 6Jan 6 Street was named MVP of the undefeated 1969 national championship team, and he played QB. I think that's reason enough to put him way high in the pantheon of UT QBs. No losses, ever? Even more reason.
January 6Jan 6 6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: Street was named MVP of the undefeated 1969 national championship team, and he played QB. I think that's reason enough to put him way high in the pantheon of UT QBs. No losses, ever? Even more reason. I get what @Longhornlove is saying. It's the same way we shun Bill Russell for Jordan. It's more eye test as you cannot compare eras. Street won a lot of games but VY was the Michael Jordan of college football. Just eye-popping talent.
January 6Jan 6 5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: Street was named MVP of the undefeated 1969 national championship team, and he played QB. I think that's reason enough to put him way high in the pantheon of UT QBs. No losses, ever? Even more reason. Great, where do you put him? How high and why? I have no idea where he lands for me yet. I literally never seen him play until I watched two big plays on YouTube today. Hard to rank something you wen't alive to see. When I was watching football early in my life it wasn't like there was a YouTube to go pull up the film. You read about it, if that. The people commenting that I am wrong didn't watch it either. I only know what I know and what I see. I see stats that outside of wins are terrible in comparison to what we have been used to since Texas ditched the wishbone. My top 4 right now is 1. VY 2. COLT 3. QUINN 4. SAM
January 6Jan 6 Street is most certainly above Sam...shit, not even close. And I'd have him above Quinn, too. Subject to change if we win the whole fucking thing this year.
January 6Jan 6 1 hour ago, Longhornlove said: I didn't watch Street play and neither did you so all I have to go by are statistics. Those don't look very good outside of wins. Lol
January 6Jan 6 What if Quinn goes for 30/31 and 6 tds no interceptions with no run game and we lose 43-42. Would Quinn have put the team on his back??
January 6Jan 6 48 minutes ago, Thatguy said: It's the same way we shun Bill Russell for Jordan. Who shuns Bill Russell for Jordan?
January 6Jan 6 34 minutes ago, Hookem10 said: What if Quinn goes for 30/31 and 6 tds no interceptions with no run game and we lose 43-42. Would Quinn have put the team on his back?? Only if he is the leading rusher and plays safety as well.
January 6Jan 6 I think for me in the modern era 1. VY - self explanatory 2. Colt - didn't matter the down or distance, you knew he was getting that first down and moving the game forward 3. Ehlinger - Had major IT factor, played on shittier teams, but dude returned Texas to its proper stage with a Sugar Bowl win . Would have won more if Herman wasn't a total dipshit 4. Quinn - back to back playoff runs , big 12 championship, sec champion birth , and led us to an amazing start in the sec . If he wins the big game I'd move him up --- 5. Applewhite/Simms - Good but not Great , never won the big games 6. Ash / Case McCoy - surprising bright spots in a otherwise decade of darkness --- Sucks too much to be numbered - Swoopes, Heard, Gilbert, Card, Mock , Thompson Edited January 6Jan 6 by BigHornedLurker
January 6Jan 6 2 hours ago, Longhornlove said: Why do you act like a child? Thats pretty much everybody here.
January 6Jan 6 1 - Vince 2 - Street 3 - Colt Things get fuzzy after that. Doesn’t matter if Quinn wins the title this year or not, he doesn't make top 3. Some of you numbnuts can't understand the difference between best QB and best QB measured by modern standards. So, fuck you guys for making me agree with BO&W. 🤬🤬🤬
January 6Jan 6 6 minutes ago, Red Five said: Quinn is not above Colt. I don't care if we win the NC by 500 points. If I would have had a boy, his name would have been Colt but it would be damn near impossible for me to not move Quinn above Colt if he ends the season holding he trophy. Edited January 6Jan 6 by Longhornlove can't fucking type and think at once.
January 6Jan 6 8 minutes ago, Longhornlove said: If I would have had a boy, his name would have been Colt but it would be damn near impossible for me to not move Quinn above Colt if he ends the season holding he trophy. Would you move Tre Wisner ahead of Ricky Williams?
January 6Jan 6 2 minutes ago, Red Five said: Would you move Tre Wisner ahead of Ricky Williams? Nope and you know why along with everyone else on the planet.
January 6Jan 6 1 minute ago, Longhornlove said: Nope and you know why along with everyone else on the planet. I think it would get him out of the Ehlinger/Simms/etc. log jam but there would still be a gulf between him and Colt.
January 6Jan 6 52 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said: I think for me in the modern era 1. VY - self explanatory 2. Colt - didn't matter the down or distance, you knew he was getting that first down and moving the game forward 3. Ehlinger - Had major IT factor, played on shittier teams, but dude returned Texas to its proper stage with a Sugar Bowl win . Would have won more if Herman wasn't a total dipshit 4. Quinn - back to back playoff runs , big 12 championship, sec champion birth , and led us to an amazing start in the sec . If he wins the big game I'd move him up --- 5. Applewhite/Simms - Good but not Great , never won the big games 6. Ash / Case McCoy - surprising bright spots in a otherwise decade of darkness --- Sucks too much to be numbered - Swoopes, Heard, Gilbert, Card, Mock , Thompson This is a bad take. Please delete your post.
January 6Jan 6 19 minutes ago, Red Five said: Would you move Tre Wisner ahead of Ricky Williams? Not exactly the best analogy.
January 6Jan 6 10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said: This is a bad take. Please delete your post. I'm just young enough I'm not able to rank anyone before that, it doesn't make my opinion wrong it just makes you old You think very highly of Applewhite who didn't win shit , he was fun to watch but winning big games matters Edited January 6Jan 6 by BigHornedLurker
January 6Jan 6 4 hours ago, Longhornlove said: It matters too me. Previous to modern football, Street was the best UT QB of all time. Modern football he isn't. Isn't his fault. Times are different. People didn't throw the ball back then. It is almost two different sports when you compare the two eras. Big linemen were what 260#. It wasn't a year around sport. Criticize me all you want. Its my opinion and I just don't think you can compare the two. If you go by wins and championships alone, sure he should probably be the greatest of all time but people aren't saying that are they? So, what exactly is the criteria? If everyone else can make up their own, I will too. The only thing most of us know about Street is his 4th down throw. Edited January 6Jan 6 by DanTheHorn
January 6Jan 6 4 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said: Street also threw a no hitter for the horns I believe. How many of those do the rest of the list have hmm? "Well, he never played for the Yankees." - Helobidiot
January 6Jan 6 1 minute ago, BigHornedLurker said: I'm just young enough I'm not able to rank anyone before that, it doesn't make my opinion wrong it just makes you old Well I am old, but that’s a bad take. If you were old enough to see Major Applewhite play you’re old know to know he was miles better than Sam (no disrespect to Ehlinger). Despite sharing time he set 48 school records, won two bowl games when that still meant something, and to your ridiculous point about not winning big games, he beat Nebraska at home not to mention the last elite Aggy team. And Ash? come on man.
January 6Jan 6 1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said: Well I am old, but that’s a bad take. If you were old enough to see Major Applewhite play you’re old know to know he was miles better than Sam (no disrespect to Ehlinger). Despite sharing time he set 48 school records, won two bowl games when that still meant something, and to your ridiculous point about not winning big games, he beat Nebraska at home not to mention the last elite Aggy team. And Ash? come on man. I mean if we're ranking QBs who didn't win shit , you must have been a huge fan of Chris Simms Ash is way the fuck down the list near the 'who gives a fuck stage' , the only reason i even mentioned him is that decade of QB play was BLEAK . Split all the hairs you want down that far the list it don't mean a shit
January 6Jan 6 5 hours ago, MrBig said: Damn I’m young enough to forget Street would likely be above Quinn. I’m also old enough to have watched Colt in person and say he is a better QB than Quinn. But you just can’t put Quinn below Colt if Quinn has a title. If I had to win one game I know who the fuck I'd pick. I also know who won the most games.
January 6Jan 6 3 minutes ago, Deej said: Gardere gets honorable mention for making OU his bitch. As a Gen Xer on campus from 90-94, I say...
January 6Jan 6 Da fuq? Is it the off-season already? Did we forfeit the OSU game? I'm so confused and disappointed.
January 6Jan 6 9 minutes ago, Ramitin said: Da fuq? Is it the off-season already? Did we forfeit the OSU game? I'm so confused and disappointed. Haven't you been following along? fOSU has already beaten us. We're just waiting for it to become official.
January 6Jan 6 Where does Tyrone swoopes rank. 18 wheeler baby. Closed the infamous Texas is back baby game
January 6Jan 6 3 minutes ago, Hookem10 said: Where does Tyrone swoopes rank. 18 wheeler baby. Closed the infamous Texas is back baby game At the bottom of any list you make , just above Heard
January 6Jan 6 5 hours ago, Helobious said: Do Street and Layne belong on here? Their QB responsibilities included: toss left, toss right, pitch the ball if option play. That was it. There’s no comparing them to modern QBs 5 hours ago, Longhornlove said: I can't do it. The modern era of football is so different and asks the QB to do too much. He is an all-time great longhorn but he doesn't belong on the top Texas QB list. These are terrible takes. Athletes get ranked based on how elite they were against the competition they faced in their era, not how they’d fare in some time-travel scenario against todays competition. The American military that took the beaches at Normandy could be easily driven back into the sea by any global power with today’s modern warfare technology. It doesn’t make them any less badass.
January 7Jan 7 41 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said: The only thing most of us know about Street is his 4th down throw. Not calling anyone out, this applies to most of the comments in this thread... Ignorant, adjective - not having enough knowledge, or information about something. Perhaps a remedial understanding of the history and evolution of college football would help some of you. 5 hours ago, Codaxx said: Never seen Street, but he went 20-0 and won a NC. So if wins and NC are the measure, I figure he has to be pretty high on the list If not for Street, the Wishbone offense probably gets scrapped. The Wishbone glorified running backs and Quarterbacks like never before, ushering in one of the greatest eras of college football. 5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said: Threw a no hitter vs SMU in 69 and a perfect game against Tech in 70. 2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said: Street was named MVP of the undefeated 1969 national championship team, and he played QB. I think that's reason enough to put him way high in the pantheon of UT QBs. No losses, ever? Even more reason. "He's a Longhorn Legend" As the only undefeated Texas QB with more than 10 wins in history, Street is probably the only Texas QB that never gave fans a reason to bench him.
January 7Jan 7 I'm just tuning in to watch the dumbasses not understand that history is typically measured against contemporaries. Shit changes over time. Cumulative stats are inflated by longer careers/terms of service. Only someone with the brain of a child would judge the following simply by their counting stats instead of their impact on history: Rolls Royce Silver Ghost vs. Honda Civic: Ghost has a top speed of 60 mph and a 4 speed clutch. Honda Civic runs away with it. Jesse Owens vs. Derrick Florence (1986 Galveston Ball HS): Florence would smoke Owens 10.13 to 10.3. Red Grange 1925 vs. Keaontay Ingram 2019: Ingram's 853 yds exceed the Galloping Ghost by about 250 yds. So I guess some of us would say that the Honda Civic was a better car than the Silver Ghost, Derrick Florence is a better athlete than Jesse Owens, and that Red Grange was an inferior running back to Keaontay Ingram. The rest of us would say that times change, and of course Jesse Owens is a better historical athlete than some rando high school kid none of us has ever heard of. To wit: VY Street Colt Layne Ewers Ewers jumps Layne with a title. Shoutout to Carlisle and Phillips for winning titles. Edited January 7Jan 7 by Darth Tron
January 7Jan 7 I’d like to drop here that in a Cotton Bowl win Bobby Layne scored every single one of Texas’ 40 points. He led the SWC in total offense one year and passing two years. There are some really stupid takes in this discussion and I’m an Aggie. Relative to national competition while playing he’s absolutely in your top 5 and probably top 3.
January 7Jan 7 1 hour ago, Your Mom said: These are terrible takes. Athletes get ranked based on how elite they were against the competition they faced in their era, not how they’d fare in some time-travel scenario against todays competition. The American military that took the beaches at Normandy could be easily driven back into the sea by any global power with today’s modern warfare technology. It doesn’t make them any less badass. Make your own list and leave my "terrible" one out of your mouth, you ain't my Mom.
January 7Jan 7 2 hours ago, DFW Horn said: Here's a gamer from my generation. Top 5 all-time? No. I saw every one of those OU wins as a student. He beat OU and we love him for it. But that was it.
January 7Jan 7 2 hours ago, BigHornedLurker said: I mean if we're ranking QBs who didn't win shit , you must have been a huge fan of Chris Simms Major Applewhite didn’t win shit? This is so ignorant it makes Helobious seem like ScipioTex. The modern era of Texas football doesn’t happen without Major Applewhite’s biggest two wins. He’s a pivotal player in the history of the program.
January 7Jan 7 7 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said: Street also threw a no hitter for the horns I believe. How many of those do the rest of the list have hmm? Layne had two. I get the modernity bias, and for sure the title is what fans care about in college. Only one player is in both the NFL and CFB halls of fame. He also played in an era where media bias for northern schools was very real. He can’t be left off.
January 7Jan 7 @luke duke is the arm signed by Gardere? I vaguely remember it being signed by him. Which would make the Vince signature so much better lol.
January 7Jan 7 7 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said: You morons that only look at stats are the worst when talking about this shit. Like no fucking shit a QB in 2024 will have more yards than a QB in 1969. Dude is 20-0 as a starter and he made plays that made him 20-0. If you go by strictly stats VY isn't top 5 in any major passing category in program history Yeah. The greatest QBs aren't necessarily the greatest with stats. 1. Vince 2. Colt 3. Street 4. Layne Nobody else warrants being on the list.
January 7Jan 7 3 hours ago, DFW Horn said: Here's a gamer from my generation. Top 5 all-time? He does have one phenomenal stat. And a great story. When heckled while playing baseball against OU he shut them up by holding up 4 fingers. The 4 times he beat OU at QB.
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