January 8Jan 8 1 hour ago, crash_davis said: She did tell me stories of orgies with Gene Simmons You couldn't get her to stop?
January 8Jan 8 I remember seeing a video on something like this a few years back. seems like a lot of these property owners would have the financial means to have something like this available for extreme situations. anyone with knowledge of this shit can weigh in and explain why it's not done. Spoiler https://www.clarionmunicipal.com/fire-retardant-gel.html this is just one company. but the existence of some kind of fire-retardant gel that you could spray all over your house and property in a situation like this is interesting to me. probably wouldn't be cheap, but cheaper than losing your $5MM home. it can be stored dry to be mixed with water. could have hundreds of pounds of it on call in a shed in the backyard. again, if someone knows why it's not done please explain.
January 8Jan 8 I don’t pretend to know shit about fuck but yesterday and today and last night the winds were basically hurricane force, and everything was spreading so fast. A lot of folks didn’t have time to react, especially up there in the hills. These winds get pretty crazy and everything is dry than South Austin’s mom after a Friday night, so I’m not sure how this would work or if it would work this is just a perfect storm of chaos right now
January 8Jan 8 I was driving Southeast out of Grand Teton NP last October, and had no idea that there were wildfires burning along 26. At one point the flames were just cresting on the ridge to my south and the only traffic for miles was shit tons of forest service and firefighters. Those fires were at least a half mile from me and it still took me a few hours after emerging from the orange skies and smoke to unpucker my asshole. I cant imagine standing on a roof with a fucking garden hose as fire is consuming the property 15 feet from me. That's some crazy f'n shit right there. Edited January 9Jan 9 by Blotto
January 8Jan 8 37 minutes ago, Goredho said: These LA fires are going to cost insurance companies billions in claims. You assume they are going to pay the claims. I’m not as confident as you.
January 8Jan 8 Popular Post Neighborhood is devastated. Looks like our house will survive. But many friends and neighbors lost their homes. My kids elementary school is gone. Our country club is gone. Neighborhood will never be the same.
January 8Jan 8 15 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said: I don’t pretend to know shit about fuck but yesterday and today and last night the winds were basically hurricane force, and everything was spreading so fast. A lot of folks didn’t have time to react, especially up there in the hills. These winds get pretty crazy and everything is dry than South Austin’s mom after a Friday night, so I’m not sure how this would work or if it would work this is just a perfect storm of chaos right now SoCal canyons don’t fuck around. Santa Anna winds are wicked. Inland high desert winds suck ass too
January 8Jan 8 Hang in there, @Sbbruin. I'll keep my fingers crossed that your "luck" holds up. Not sure what else to say other than this sucks for you guys.
January 8Jan 8 8 minutes ago, Sbbruin said: Neighborhood is devastated. Looks like our house will survive. But many friends and neighbors lost their homes. My kids elementary school is gone. Our country club is gone. Neighborhood will never be the same. I am sorry, man. I am glad it looks like your house is going to be ok. Here's to you and your neighbors rallying around each other to rebuild the community.
January 8Jan 8 SBB, stay vigilant with watching your cornhole. New spark-ups could appear, winds could shift, no telling what might happen next!
January 8Jan 8 9 minutes ago, Sbbruin said: Neighborhood is devastated. Looks like our house will survive. But many friends and neighbors lost their homes. My kids elementary school is gone. Our country club is gone. Neighborhood will never be the same. Damn, sorry for all of your friends, neighbors and everyone impacted. Seems apocalyptic.
January 8Jan 8 1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said: That'll never stop Gojira. Oh no....There goes Encino...go go Gojira
January 8Jan 8 Popular Post for those asking isolated questions about how it gets like this and why it's so hard to contain, please remember that we've basically been in a drought for over 100 years and this is one of the driest seasons on record. it hasn't rained here in 8 months. so as far as scooping a bunch of non-salt water to drop on the fires, those levels are already horrifyingly low. add the winds, which are bad on their own (think hurricane without the rain), and shit spreads fast and makes life hard on first responders. winds cause trees to fall and shit to fly into power lines which fall and start fires. i'm sure some were started by lit cigs, bbq mishaps, or jewish space lasers, but huge winds always start fires. there are at least 4 independent fires going right now, which is insanely rare (typically one fire spreads but they're all connected). also remember, many of these communities, especially ones in the hills have one way in and one way out. when people are fleeing and firetrucks are trying to get in/out, it's almost impossible. anyone familiar with how la is on a map can tell you how few options you have just to get from the city to the valley and how clogged those roads get, and that's before trees/random objects are blocking roads. the news just literally said "please don't use water today if you can avoid it, even if you're nowhere near the fires". i've never heard that. i'm gonna go watch chinatown. @Sbbruin glad you're safe. let's meet up at a shitty palm springs casino. don't bring your cats.
January 8Jan 8 4 minutes ago, henrygandorf said: @Sbbruin glad you're safe. let's meet up at a shitty palm springs casino. don't bring your cats. You'll get pussy at the casino!
January 8Jan 8 51 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said: You assume they are going to pay the claims. I’m not as confident as you. Fire insurance is difficult to get in California due to claims and state government policy
January 8Jan 8 2 hours ago, Incredulity said: This is a MASSIVE scandal if so. @B00M the fuck you neg this for? You don't think having fire protection water is a criteria for allowing development in any municipality?
January 8Jan 8 2 minutes ago, Incredulity said: @B00M the fuck you neg this for? You don't think having fire protection water is a criteria for allowing development in any municipality? You're repeating a lie from your Cheeto Benito and working to stoke political outrage in a current events thread 25 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said: He's either wrong or lying. (Not that it matters. He'll just keep at it.) There is plenty of water in CA: https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain
January 8Jan 8 Careful there. I was told by this site's owner yesterday that ANY discussion of government action is politics and, therefore, should go in the Cloak Room. He even posted this image as evidence, so we should definitely respect his wishes.
January 8Jan 8 Just now, Captainant said: You're repeating a lie from your Cheeto Benito and working to stoke political outrage in a current events thread Fuck you. Someone else posted they didn't have water in the hydrants.
January 8Jan 8 5 minutes ago, Captainant said: You're repeating a lie from your Cheeto Benito and working to stoke political outrage in a current events thread 27 minutes ago, henrygandorf said: the news just literally said "please don't use water today if you can avoid it, even if you're nowhere near the fires". i've never heard that. i'm gonna go watch chinatown.
January 8Jan 8 2 minutes ago, hookemATL said: Litigate your negs in DMs. This thread doesn't need the fuckery. What about buggary?
January 8Jan 8 After Palisades fire hydrants lacked water, city officials blame demand - Los Angeles Times Quiñones said that the hydrants in the Palisades rely on three large water tanks with about 1 million gallons each. The first ran dry at 4:45 p.m. Tuesday; the second at 8:30 p.m.; and the third was dry at 3 a.m. Wednesday. “Those tanks help with the pressure on the fire hydrants in the hills in the Palisades, and because we were pushing so much water in our trunk line, and so much water was being used. ... we were not able to fill the tanks fast enough,” she said. “So the consumption of water was faster than we can provide water in a trunk line.” In other words, the demand for water at lower elevations was hampering the ability to refill the tanks located at higher elevations. Because of the ongoing fire, DWP crews also faced difficulty accessing its pump stations, which are used to move water up to the tanks.
January 8Jan 8 Popular Post 1 minute ago, Incredulity said: Fuck you. Someone else posted they didn't have water in the hydrants. or you could take 5 minutes and research why that might be instead of screaming "hurr-durr-SCANDAL". Quote More than 400 members of the Los Angeles Fire Department have been deployed to fight the Palisades Fire alone, Kristin Crowley, chief of the department, said at a Wednesday morning press conference, noting the blaze was “stretching the capacity of our emergency services to their maximum limits.” But they ran into another issue: a lack of water in hydrants. The Palisades area has three large tanks that provide water for the hydrants, each holding about a million gallons. The first tank ran out of water at 4:45 p.m. Tuesday, the second tank ran out at 8:30 p.m. and the third ran out at 3 a.m. Wednesday morning. The water was being consumed at a rate faster than the tanks could be replenished, officials said. So I guess you can argue that they should have infinity capacity to prevent such an instance, or you could just acknowledge that the system was probably not designed to handle "worst case scenario" and that is what they got. And you will gladly pay for the infrastructure improvements to handle worst case scenario with infinite capacity in every municipality in the US. Is it unfortunate? Certainly. Is it a scandal? Only to elderly grandmas glued to facebook.
January 8Jan 8 36 minutes ago, henrygandorf said: for those asking isolated questions about how it gets like this and why it's so hard to contain, please remember that we've basically been in a drought for over 100 years and this is one of the driest seasons on record. it hasn't rained here in 8 months. so as far as scooping a bunch of non-salt water to drop on the fires, those levels are already horrifyingly low. add the winds, which are bad on their own (think hurricane without the rain), and shit spreads fast and makes life hard on first responders. winds cause trees to fall and shit to fly into power lines which fall and start fires. i'm sure some were started by lit cigs, bbq mishaps, or jewish space lasers, but huge winds always start fires. there are at least 4 independent fires going right now, which is insanely rare (typically one fire spreads but they're all connected). also remember, many of these communities, especially ones in the hills have one way in and one way out. when people are fleeing and firetrucks are trying to get in/out, it's almost impossible. anyone familiar with how la is on a map can tell you how few options you have just to get from the city to the valley and how clogged those roads get, and that's before trees/random objects are blocking roads. the news just literally said "please don't use water today if you can avoid it, even if you're nowhere near the fires". i've never heard that. i'm gonna go watch chinatown. @Sbbruin glad you're safe. let's meet up at a shitty palm springs casino. don't bring your cats. I've been doing some work in Sylmar since October. Even for my dry-ass West Texas weather and climate that I am used to; I thought everything was an virtual tinderbox out there. It is unbelievable.
January 8Jan 8 Popular Post “seems pretty foolish for a state to be unprepared for a worst-case scenario weather event.” -texas people as temps drop
January 8Jan 8 Popular Post Not trying at all to be political but this person is offering free meals and the ability to stay in his restaurant’s large parking lot as long as needed for those on this path fleeing the apocalypse been praying and I wish I could do more. I was devastated watching the Texas panhandle go up in flames not too long ago and I wish I could offer more than prayer and such. Like actual physical help and donations. anyway here is the tweet if you want to pass it along to anyone headed in that direction. Sorry wasn’t trying to be political at all. Just a place to stop and rest and get a meal and camp out if needed.
January 8Jan 8 Popular Post 4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said: Not trying at all to be political but this person is offering free meals and the ability to stay in his restaurant’s large parking lot as long as needed for those on this path fleeing the apocalypse been praying and I wish I could do more. I was devastated watching the Texas panhandle go up in flames not too long ago and I wish I could offer more than prayer and such. Like actual physical help and donations. anyway here is the tweet if you want to pass it along to anyone headed in that direction. Sorry wasn’t trying to be political at all. Just a place to stop and rest and get a meal and camp out if needed. sooo i don't think that word means what you think it means lol
January 8Jan 8 5 minutes ago, mchookem said: sooo i don't think that word means what you think it means lol "DO SOME OF YOU NOT GRASP THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE?!?"
January 8Jan 8 14 minutes ago, Nicole44 said: anyway here is the tweet if you want to pass it along to anyone headed in that direction. Sorry wasn’t trying to be political at all. Just a place to stop and rest and get a meal and camp out if needed. Pro tip: never recommend a restaurant with the Chef is named “Gruel” Edit: Dammit! I’m late to the party again Surlygator Edited January 8Jan 8 by Gatorubet
January 8Jan 8 4 hours ago, Sbbruin said: Defending my house with a hose. This is my street. Wind blowing away from our house. Been there, made front page of Star-Telegram in Feb '07. Neighbor started an electrical fire with 40 mph winds straight toward my house. Nothing but hay field in between. I made it by the hair of my chinny chin chin.
January 8Jan 8 1 hour ago, henrygandorf said: add the winds, which are bad on their own (think hurricane without the rain), Lubbock on a Wednesday night would work, too.
January 8Jan 8 3 minutes ago, RPM said: Been there, made front page of Star-Telegram in Feb '07. Neighbor started an electrical fire with 40 mph winds straight toward my house. Nothing but hay field in between. I made it by the hair of my chinny chin chin. Our neighbor one street behind and one house over lost their house to a fire during Icepocalypse Austin. We knew they were safe, and all I could do was just watch their house burn from my back porch and hope the fire didn't jump into our very heavily treed back yard. Fire sucks.
January 8Jan 8 2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: Our neighbor one street behind and one house over lost their house to a fire during Icepocalypse Austin. We knew they were safe, and all I could do was just watch their house burn from my back porch and hope the fire didn't jump into our very heavily treed back yard. Fire sucks. It really makes you want to surround your house in Cali with as much of a large rock garden that you can, and instead of a lawn sprinkler system, rig the external part of your house with roof & walls with an external water sprinkler system to cover everything, so embers are put out as soon as they land on your house.
January 8Jan 8 1 hour ago, henrygandorf said: i'm gonna go watch chinatown The future, Mr. Gandorf, the future! Good luck to you
January 8Jan 8 Sister-in-law, niece, and their husbands evacuated their Altadena home last night. Currently holed up in a hotel near the Rose Bowl. Hopefully they won't have to move on from there.
January 8Jan 8 2 hours ago, futureman said: I remember seeing a video on something like this a few years back. seems like a lot of these property owners would have the financial means to have something like this available for extreme situations. anyone with knowledge of this shit can weigh in and explain why it's not done. Reveal hidden contents https://www.clarionmunicipal.com/fire-retardant-gel.html this is just one company. but the existence of some kind of fire-retardant gel that you could spray all over your house and property in a situation like this is interesting to me. probably wouldn't be cheap, but cheaper than losing your $5MM home. it can be stored dry to be mixed with water. could have hundreds of pounds of it on call in a shed in the backyard. again, if someone knows why it's not done please explain. in my line of work there is a fire suppressant system that when activated covers a ~5,000 square foot area in a foam to put out the flames, there should be something similar available for a home depending upon how much money you want to spend on it
January 8Jan 8 Sister back home in Santa Monica, said they got the all clear but news says Zero % contained?
January 8Jan 8 Popular Post 47 minutes ago, HenryJames said: After Palisades fire hydrants lacked water, city officials blame demand - Los Angeles Times Quiñones said that the hydrants in the Palisades rely on three large water tanks with about 1 million gallons each. The first ran dry at 4:45 p.m. Tuesday; the second at 8:30 p.m.; and the third was dry at 3 a.m. Wednesday. “Those tanks help with the pressure on the fire hydrants in the hills in the Palisades, and because we were pushing so much water in our trunk line, and so much water was being used. ... we were not able to fill the tanks fast enough,” she said. “So the consumption of water was faster than we can provide water in a trunk line.” In other words, the demand for water at lower elevations was hampering the ability to refill the tanks located at higher elevations. Because of the ongoing fire, DWP crews also faced difficulty accessing its pump stations, which are used to move water up to the tanks. To boil it down--water out of the hydrant has fuck-all to do with how much water is in the reservoir. California has plenty of water in its reservoirs. I mean, maybe not "plenty" for long-term planning purposes. But for purposes of combatting these fires, California has plenty of water in the reservoirs. But the water that comes out of the hydrants is treated city water. And treated city water has to get uphill to storage tanks. And once those storage tanks run dry, there's no water for the hydrants no matter how much water may be in the reservoirs, the ocean, or anywhere else. And by the way--this is not just an issue in California. This is an issue throughout the areas west of Austin. For instance, Lost Creek has enough water in its storage tanks for 1.5 house fires. Not two. And damned sure as shit not three. One-and-a-half. So if a fire ever came up from the greenbelt, that entire subdivision is right fucked. But even without a greenbelt wildfire, it also means that if you live in Lost Creek and your house catches fire, the fire department is just going to watch it burn and save their water to make sure it doesn't spread to neighboring houses.
January 8Jan 8 1 minute ago, Bill Brasky said: in my line of work there is a fire suppressant system that when activated covers a ~5,000 square foot area in a foam to put out the flames, there should be something similar available for a home depending upon how much money you want to spend on it AH FUCK, Bob's grilling again. Trigger the countermeasures!
January 8Jan 8 4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said: Lost Creek has enough water in its storage tanks for 1.5 house fires. Not two. And damned sure as shit not three. One-and-a-half. So if a fire ever came up from the greenbelt, that entire subdivision is right fucked. This is a MASSIVE scandal if so
January 8Jan 8 10 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said: They are saying it on the news too. Direct from their mouths but CR fgts are Gonna CR everywhere they go Say the whole word, you chickenshit.
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