January 16Jan 16 Popular Post https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/texas-reveals-major-gpa-announcement-about-college-football-season/ar-AA1xkLuR Texas has a new team high 3.27 GPA. I guess Sark has figured out how to keep players eligible. "...The previous high came during the Tom Herman era, so clearly, Sarkisian has been able to elevate the program in all facets. According to Heather Dinich of ESPN, the team's GPA has gone up in each season that Sarkisian has been in Austin. In a May report, Dinich revealed that in Sarkisian's first season, when they finished 5-7, the Longhorns had a team GPA of 2.33. Both numbers saw a slight increase the following year as the team's record jumped to 8-5, while the GPA grew to 2.78. In 2023, the Longhorns went 12-2 and posted a GPA of 2.98. Based on this trend, Texas fans should expect more wins and maybe even higher GPAs in 2025."
January 16Jan 16 I honestly don’t remember the last time I heard about a player at any school missing time because of grades. It was definitely pre-Covid.
January 16Jan 16 Popular Post We're making them attend classes during game week? I think I see what's holding us back from that next step.
January 16Jan 16 23 minutes ago, 4th&Five said: I honestly don’t remember the last time I heard about a player at any school missing time because of grades. It was definitely pre-Covid. They've gotten it worked out. Especially now that players are making hundreds of thousands of $$$. At most schools the players take mostly online classes and they take them with "tutors" Edited January 16Jan 16 by Hermanator
January 16Jan 16 26 minutes ago, 4th&Five said: I honestly don’t remember the last time I heard about a player at any school missing time because of grades. It was definitely pre-Covid. I saw where Dion said Shimere and the all world guy never went to one class at Colorado...
January 16Jan 16 31 minutes ago, gofuckyourself said: Better than my GPA. I should have majored in Physical Culture and Sports. So damn weed out classes in engineering and computer science back in the 90's did the trick.
January 16Jan 16 "You want to be an engineer? I'm sorry, I don't think we have a scholarship available for you."
January 16Jan 16 here is our list of football academic all-americans (1st/2nd/3rd-team & Honorable Mentions) 1958 Maurice Doke - E 1959 Maurice Doke - G 1961 John Treadwell - G 1962 Pat Culpepper - B 1962 John Treadwell - G 1963 Duke Carlisle - B 1966 Gene Bledsoe - OT 1967 Mike Perrin - DE 1967 Corby Robertson - LB 1968 Scott Henderson - LB 1968 Corby Robertson - LB 1969 Scott Henderson - LB 1971 Jeff Zupalac - C 1972 Mike Bayer - DB 1972 Tommy Keel - S 1972 Steve Oxley - OT 1973 Tommy Keel - S 1975 Bill Hamilton - LB 1976 Bill Hamilton - LB 1983 Doug Dawson - OG 1987 Lee Beckelman - LB 1988 Lee Mark Brockman - LB 1995 Pat Fitzgerald - TE 1996 Pat Fitzgerald - TE 1998 Dusty Renfro - LB 2000 Kris Stockton - P 2007 Dallas Griffin - OL 2007 Derek Lokey - DL 2008 Chris Ogbonnaya - RB 2009 Adam Ulatoski - OL 2009 Sam Acho - DL 2010 Sam Acho - DL 2013 Nate Boyer - OL 2022 Ovie Oghoufo - DL 2023 Bert Auburn - K 2023 Jake Majors - OL
January 16Jan 16 They all have money to pay people to do their work now…. Back in the day they paid in shoes and swag.
January 16Jan 16 24 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said: here is our list of football academic all-americans (1st/2nd/3rd-team & Honorable Mentions) 1958 Maurice Doke - E 1959 Maurice Doke - G 1961 John Treadwell - G 1962 Pat Culpepper - B 1962 John Treadwell - G 1963 Duke Carlisle - B 1966 Gene Bledsoe - OT 1967 Mike Perrin - DE 1967 Corby Robertson - LB 1968 Scott Henderson - LB 1968 Corby Robertson - LB 1969 Scott Henderson - LB 1971 Jeff Zupalac - C 1972 Mike Bayer - DB 1972 Tommy Keel - S 1972 Steve Oxley - OT 1973 Tommy Keel - S 1975 Bill Hamilton - LB 1976 Bill Hamilton - LB 1983 Doug Dawson - OG 1987 Lee Beckelman - LB 1988 Lee Mark Brockman - LB 1995 Pat Fitzgerald - TE 1996 Pat Fitzgerald - TE 1998 Dusty Renfro - LB 2000 Kris Stockton - P 2007 Dallas Griffin - OL 2007 Derek Lokey - DL 2008 Chris Ogbonnaya - RB 2009 Adam Ulatoski - OL 2009 Sam Acho - DL 2010 Sam Acho - DL 2013 Nate Boyer - OL 2022 Ovie Oghoufo - DL 2023 Bert Auburn - K 2023 Jake Majors - OL Before the Westlake Mafia hits you with negs, 1971 is Zapalac.
January 16Jan 16 1 hour ago, Hermanator said: "tutors" I don't think the majority of the players have really rededicated themselves to academics. they're getting more "help." Edited January 16Jan 16 by futureman
January 17Jan 17 48 minutes ago, Not a cat said: 2000 Kris Stockton - P 2007 Dallas Griffin - OL 2001 to 2006. We were dumb, but we won a lot.
January 17Jan 17 2 minutes ago, gofuckyourself said: 2001 to 2006. We were dumb, but we won a lot. 2013 Nate Boyer - OL 2022 Ovie Oghoufo - DL Better than when we were dumb and lost a lot.
January 17Jan 17 Why even require them to take classes at this point. They are professional athletes that will soon be getting paid by the athletic department to play football. I guess you could make it optional for the few that actually want to learn something. But the traditional notion of "student athletes" seems pointless these days. Let them major in football.
January 17Jan 17 Even if Texas matched the record for guys getting drafted, that's like 86% of the team that probably need to accept that they're gonna have to either play school or enter the workforce
January 17Jan 17 13 minutes ago, Blotto said: Why even require them to take classes at this point. They are professional athletes that will soon be getting paid by the athletic department to play football. I guess you could make it optional for the few that actually want to learn something. But the traditional notion of "student athletes" seems pointless these days. Let them major in football. The funny thing is I bet the school could create a pretty useful curriculum in majoring in football everything from the business aspect, communication and physical/nutrition aspect.
January 17Jan 17 3 hours ago, Sawbonz said: Probably higher than surly’s cumulative GPA No… We are all smart, affluent Travel Nurses.
January 17Jan 17 Popular Post 37 minutes ago, Blotto said: Why even require them to take classes at this point. They are professional athletes that will soon be getting paid by the athletic department to play football. I guess you could make it optional for the few that actually want to learn something. But the traditional notion of "student athletes" seems pointless these days. Let them major in football. I teach an upper-division elective at the business school and have had multiple student-athletes in my class. As a whole, they are above the average for my class--they show up most of the time, pay attention, and do the work. I don't know what sports they play unless they give me documentation about the specific classes they are allowed to miss due to University-sponsored sports events. One student who plays a sport people know about wrote to me yesterday asking the best way to make up the work they have to miss due to the competition schedule. I am impressed by our student-athletes. They work much harder than I did when I was a student.
January 17Jan 17 4 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said: here is our list of football academic all-americans (1st/2nd/3rd-team & Honorable Mentions) 1958 Maurice Doke - E 1959 Maurice Doke - G 1961 John Treadwell - G 1962 Pat Culpepper - B 1962 John Treadwell - G 1963 Duke Carlisle - B 1966 Gene Bledsoe - OT 1967 Mike Perrin - DE 1967 Corby Robertson - LB 1968 Scott Henderson - LB 1968 Corby Robertson - LB 1969 Scott Henderson - LB 1971 Jeff Zupalac - C 1972 Mike Bayer - DB 1972 Tommy Keel - S 1972 Steve Oxley - OT 1973 Tommy Keel - S 1975 Bill Hamilton - LB 1976 Bill Hamilton - LB 1983 Doug Dawson - OG 1987 Lee Beckelman - LB 1988 Lee Mark Brockman - LB 1995 Pat Fitzgerald - TE 1996 Pat Fitzgerald - TE 1998 Dusty Renfro - LB 2000 Kris Stockton - P 2007 Dallas Griffin - OL 2007 Derek Lokey - DL 2008 Chris Ogbonnaya - RB 2009 Adam Ulatoski - OL 2009 Sam Acho - DL 2010 Sam Acho - DL 2013 Nate Boyer - OL 2022 Ovie Oghoufo - DL 2023 Bert Auburn - K 2023 Jake Majors - OL Why are there so few? What are the requirements to make it?
January 17Jan 17 32 minutes ago, Spindletop said: I teach an upper-division elective at the business school and have had multiple student-athletes in my class. As a whole, they are above the average for my class--they show up most of the time, pay attention, and do the work. I don't know what sports they play unless they give me documentation about the specific classes they are allowed to miss due to University-sponsored sports events. One student who plays a sport people know about wrote to me yesterday asking the best way to make up the work they have to miss due to the competition schedule. I am impressed by our student-athletes. They work much harder than I did when I was a student. I will qualify my earlier comments by suggesting I was really talking about the football players and basketball players (probably baseball as well)....the ones that arrive in Austin with fat NIL deals with dreams of a high paying professional career. I suspect that swimmers, rowers, etc... are probably more disciplined than the average student and would do well in class. But I'm guessing the majority of our scholarship football and basketball players wouldn't sniff admission to UT if it weren't for the fact that they were badass athletes. I've heard a lot of these guys speak and they don't sound particularly well educated.
January 17Jan 17 1 minute ago, pacman said: This level of detail really has me hopeful Sark wins a national championship here. this “We are what we repeatedly do, therefore, excellence is not an act, but a habit” - Aristotle
January 17Jan 17 1 hour ago, Blotto said: I will qualify my earlier comments by suggesting I was really talking about the football players and basketball players (probably baseball as well)....the ones that arrive in Austin with fat NIL deals with dreams of a high paying professional career. I suspect that swimmers, rowers, etc... are probably more disciplined than the average student and would do well in class. But I'm guessing the majority of our scholarship football and basketball players wouldn't sniff admission to UT if it weren't for the fact that they were badass athletes. I've heard a lot of these guys speak and they don't sound particularly well educated. Totally fair, and what you are saying could be true. My sample size is small, and doesn't include the sports you mention as far as I know, but I have been happy to have student-athletes in my class because they take the "student" part seriously and are really trying to pick up the material. Of course, there is self-selection bias because I teach in a major that has a reputation for being difficult. No academic advisor will direct students to our department for an "easy" major.
January 17Jan 17 That we are still pretending that this isn't a minor-league professional sport is fucking hysterical to me. 16 minutes ago, pacman said: This level of detail really has me hopeful Sark wins a national championship here. The level of play that Sark consistently puts on the field has me plenty hopeful.
January 17Jan 17 24 minutes ago, Spindletop said: Of course, there is self-selection bias because I teach in a major that has a reputation for being difficult. No academic advisor will direct students to our department for an "easy" major. user name gushes with delight
January 17Jan 17 3 hours ago, Blotto said: Why even require them to take classes at this point. They are professional athletes that will soon be getting paid by the athletic department to play football. I guess you could make it optional for the few that actually want to learn something. But the traditional notion of "student athletes" seems pointless these days. Let them major in football. 3 hours ago, YChang said: The funny thing is I bet the school could create a pretty useful curriculum in majoring in football everything from the business aspect, communication and physical/nutrition aspect. IF they are ever able to major in football the University would be negligent if they didn't have some basic economic classes, and maybe something on how to evaluate agents and lawyers without hiring your buddies. Maybe even classes on how to get an Uber at a bar, how to keep from fighting at a bar, or how to ride with other people and not have a gun in your lap. Don't forget the car salesman courses. Those all seem like they could be useful.
January 17Jan 17 4 minutes ago, dec3169 said: IF they are ever able to major in football the University would be negligent if they didn't have some basic economic classes, and maybe something on how to evaluate agents and lawyers without hiring your buddies. Maybe even classes on how to get an Uber at a bar, how to keep from fighting at a bar, or how to ride with other people and not have a gun in your lap. Don't forget the car salesman courses. Those all seem like they could be useful.
January 17Jan 17 4 hours ago, Spindletop said: Totally fair, and what you are saying could be true. My sample size is small, and doesn't include the sports you mention as far as I know, but I have been happy to have student-athletes in my class because they take the "student" part seriously and are really trying to pick up the material. Of course, there is self-selection bias because I teach in a major that has a reputation for being difficult. No academic advisor will direct students to our department for an "easy" major. You sound smart. Why are you here?
January 17Jan 17 8 hours ago, Rockwell Torrey said: You sound smart. Why are you here? Ha, I think most Surly posters are pretty clever compared to the typical Internet message board. I mean, have you ever been to Texags?
January 17Jan 17 With that GPA in Engineering, one will surely get a good job. More to the point, this is part of the roster building. Smart player better than the alternative
January 17Jan 17 12 hours ago, dec3169 said: IF they are ever able to major in football the University would be negligent if they didn't have some basic economic classes, and maybe something on how to evaluate agents and lawyers without hiring your buddies. Maybe even classes on how to get an Uber at a bar, how to keep from fighting at a bar, or how to ride with other people and not have a gun in your lap. Don't forget the car salesman courses. Those all seem like they could be useful. Roofing company ad coutrse
January 17Jan 17 It has been a spell since we had a guy fall asleep at the wheel in a drive through, or get in a fight at a bar on Riverside, or get caught with a backpack full of weed. Good job Sark!
January 17Jan 17 21 hours ago, 4th&Five said: I honestly don’t remember the last time I heard about a player at any school missing time because of grades. It was definitely pre-Covid. PJ Tucker is the last time I remember it happening to a player at UT
January 17Jan 17 23 hours ago, Sawbonz said: Probably higher than surly’s cumulative GPA Couldn't decide whether to go with: or:
January 17Jan 17 19 hours ago, Blotto said: I will qualify my earlier comments by suggesting I was really talking about the football players and basketball players (probably baseball as well)....the ones that arrive in Austin with fat NIL deals with dreams of a high paying professional career. I suspect that swimmers, rowers, etc... are probably more disciplined than the average student and would do well in class. But I'm guessing the majority of our scholarship football and basketball players wouldn't sniff admission to UT if it weren't for the fact that they were badass athletes. I've heard a lot of these guys speak and they don't sound particularly well educated. Not tryin' to be a dick or nothing but I've heard numerous Texas players speak and have been genuinely impressed. I know Acho(s) can be annoying at times but they are great representatives. Vince and Sam have sounded a bit dull immediately following a big game (Rose/Sugar) but I'm sure I would've been pretty cringe myself at that age - without the wins. For the most part when I hear our players speak I say, "those are my guys."
January 20Jan 20 On 1/19/2025 at 8:07 AM, AlrightAlrightAlright said: We’ve come a long way since getting memed on for this: Lot of own goals in that era...
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