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9 minutes ago, Machinator said:

I still think it's outlandish to think he was nudged out the door.

 

7 minutes ago, skipmcgee said:

Frankly clownish

Sheer lunacy. Detroit paid his $850k buyout.

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  • Machinator
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    So he's been on staffs with Choate, Saban, and Schiano and has Houston/Texas ties. Not going to act like this is some no-doubter but seems like it can work just fine to me.

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    My sweet Lord. Reading the thread since the Muschamp hiring is borderline exhausting. Some of the hawtest takes on this recruiting board, ever, on here between pages 45 and 48. I was quoting posts at

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17 minutes ago, Machinator said:

I still think it's outlandish to think he was nudged out the door.

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Its no disrespect to Choice to suggest that good coaches sometimes have differences in philosophy and move around. Choice didnt want to recruit college running backs. Maybe he didn't want to fuck over his fellow rb coaches who knows. Its not a knock on his character. 

Maybe we get a rb coach who's more aggressive with the transfer portal. Maybe Choice is more suited to coaching grown men under contract in the NFL and positioning himself for a bigger role. Both can be true. Maybe I'm completely wrong. Either way Im just some dumbass who watches too much Texas football

4 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Im just some dumbass who watches too much Texas football

New motto? 

 

57 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Why the hell did Detroit pay about $300k-400k above slot for Choice? Their RB’s are already damn good. It’s not like they’re asking Choice to come in and coach up the Giants RB Room. 

Because their head coach is an aggy.

46 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Remember when he was asked about the Horns potentially targeting rbs in the transfer portal and he said "Nah, Choice good"?

That got under my skin a little and I took some heat a couple weeks back when I suggested he may have been nudged to the door. Understandably, since hes a respected assistant who was a key factor in several recruitments at different positions. He will be a loss. But I'm excited to see some new blood in the offensive coaching room

And there it is. Rocketing to the top of the list for the dumbest post of 2025 so far. I’m sure it will be surpassed eventually, because the poster will continue posting. 

Sorry if posted,  from the Chronicle.  (excerpts)

 

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Choice, who had also been courted by the Dallas Cowboys this offseason, will be an especially critical setback because he had been instrumental in recruiting three top 10 commitments for the 2026 recruiting class. That includes Ezavier “EJ” Crowell, a four-star recruit from Jackson, Ala., who is ranked the No. 8 running back in that  class. Crowell told Rivals that he was “shocked” to hear Choice was leaving and announced he is reopening his recruitment. He’s being heavily sought by Alabama and Auburn.

“We had a great relationship,” Crowell told Rivals. “I’ve got to find another official visit.”

He said he was canceling his planned June 6 visit to Austin. Texas is still in the running for Carthage running back KJ Edwards as well as Forney’s Javian Osborne.

Choice will be reunited with Lions new defensive coordinator Kelvin Sheppard, one of his best friends since they played in the NFL together with the Buffalo Bills, as well as running Jahmyr Gibbs, whom Choice coached at Georgia Tech.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/college/longhorns/article/tashard-choice-leaves-detroit-lions-20165830.php

 

1 hour ago, cmontexas said:

Remember when he was asked about the Horns potentially targeting rbs in the transfer portal and he said "Nah, Choice good"?

That got under my skin a little and I took some heat a couple weeks back when I suggested he may have been nudged to the door. Understandably, since hes a respected assistant who was a key factor in several recruitments at different positions. He will be a loss. But I'm excited to see some new blood in the offensive coaching room

Nudged out the door? He got a new deal and a salary increase like ten days ago.

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1 hour ago, cmontexas said:

Remember when he was asked about the Horns potentially targeting rbs in the transfer portal and he said "Nah, Choice good"?

That got under my skin a little and I took some heat a couple weeks back when I suggested he may have been nudged to the door. Understandably, since hes a respected assistant who was a key factor in several recruitments at different positions. He will be a loss. But I'm excited to see some new blood in the offensive coaching room

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38 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

And there it is. Rocketing to the top of the list for the dumbest post of 2025 so far. I’m sure it will be surpassed eventually, because the poster will continue posting. 

That's a prestigious award

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1 hour ago, cmontexas said:

Its no disrespect to Choice to suggest that good coaches sometimes have differences in philosophy and move around. Choice didnt want to recruit college running backs. Maybe he didn't want to fuck over his fellow rb coaches who knows. Its not a knock on his character. 

Maybe we get a rb coach who's more aggressive with the transfer portal. Maybe Choice is more suited to coaching grown men under contract in the NFL and positioning himself for a bigger role. Both can be true. Maybe I'm completely wrong. Either way Im just some dumbass who watches too much Texas football

Hey man, the first post, I think “everyone has a bad post every now and then “ and now this. 

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

19 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Hey man, the first post, I think “everyone has a bad post every now and then “ and now this. 

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

Hey, the fun thing is, we'll get to see if we start pursuing transfer rbs in the future and if that's just a lucky coincidence 

CTJ, I know you're involved in the money side of things. I theorize that Choice had great unseen value on the retention side of NIL, getting his guys to buy in and reup cheap. That will be difficult and potentially costly to replace. 

4 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Hey, the fun thing is, we'll get to see if we start pursuing transfer rbs in the future and if that's just a lucky coincidence 

You're right. Tashard Choice is a lazy recruiter. You have to go all the way back to....2024....to see the last time he recruited a transfer running back. His laziness in recruiting is only outpaced by his inability to get our running backs into the draft. I hope our next RB coach remembers that not only is it recruiting top 10 in the nation running backs out of high school, you have to immediately try to find their replacements in the transfer portal instead of riding them into first round picks.

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you should probably stop projecting and theorizing.  You are terrible at it.

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6 minutes ago, Genghis said:

You're right. Tashard Choice is a lazy recruiter. You have to go all the way back to....2024....to see the last time he recruited a transfer running back. His laziness in recruiting is only outpaced by his inability to get our running backs into the draft. I hope our next RB coach remembers that not only is it recruiting top 10 in the nation running backs out of high school, you have to immediately try to find their replacements in the transfer portal instead of riding them into first round picks.

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The original take was terrible but this guy was a warm body we were forced to scrounge up after losing two RBs to season-ending injuries.

8 minutes ago, Genghis said:

You're right. Tashard Choice is a lazy recruiter. You have to go all the way back to....2024....to see the last time he recruited a transfer running back. His laziness in recruiting is only outpaced by his inability to get our running backs into the draft. I hope our next RB coach remembers that not only is it recruiting top 10 in the nation running backs out of high school, you have to immediately try to find their replacements in the transfer portal instead of riding them into first round picks.

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Who the fuck said he was lazy? Being loyal to his guys and not wanting to recruit the portal=/=lazy. Different coaches have different viewpoints

6 minutes ago, Machinator said:

The original take was terrible but this guy was a warm body we were forced to scrounge up after losing two RBs to season-ending injuries.

And we lost him to a season ending eye injury which no one ever said exactly what happened. 

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

And we lost him to a season ending eye injury which no one ever said exactly what happened. 

Sounds like you just said what happened. Did anyone even care enough to ask for a follow up?

1 minute ago, cmontexas said:

Who the fuck said he was lazy? Being loyal to his guys and not wanting to recruit the portal=/=lazy. Different coaches have different viewpoints

This genius did about 2 hours ago.

2 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Its no disrespect to Choice to suggest that good coaches sometimes have differences in philosophy and move around. Choice didnt want to recruit college running backs. Maybe he didn't want to fuck over his fellow rb coaches who knows. Its not a knock on his character. 

Maybe we get a rb coach who's more aggressive with the transfer portal. Maybe Choice is more suited to coaching grown men under contract in the NFL and positioning himself for a bigger role. Both can be true. Maybe I'm completely wrong. Either way Im just some dumbass who watches too much Texas football

Oh, wait. You're right. You didn't say he was lazy. You just said he "didn't want to" and that his "nah, I'm good" answer irritated you and hoped the next guy would while suggesting that he was being pushed out the door because he wasn't recruiting which is the majority of most running back coaches' jobs. That definitely doesn't imply you thought he was lazy.

And yall, I 100% get Velton Gardner was a warm body after injuries and not the savior of the room. It's just even within the last cycle it showed Choice pivoting that when they needed depth because the room got decimated by injuries, he went out and did the work. But seriously, in the years before that, who would you recruit out of the transfer portal to compete with Bijan and Roschon? There's only the tiniest sliver of an argument for adding another last year with Baxter, Brooks, and Keilan Robinson. This year, fine, make the argument but it was still a room with some experience and talented freshman coming in. It wasn't barren until injuries hit.

15 minutes ago, Genghis said:

This genius did about 2 hours ago.

Oh, wait. You're right. You didn't say he was lazy. You just said he "didn't want to" and that his "nah, I'm good" answer irritated you and hoped the next guy would while suggesting that he was being pushed out the door because he wasn't recruiting which is the majority of most running back coaches' jobs. That definitely doesn't imply you thought he was lazy.

And yall, I 100% get Velton Gardner was a warm body after injuries and not the savior of the room. It's just even within the last cycle it showed Choice pivoting that when they needed depth because the room got decimated by injuries, he went out and did the work. But seriously, in the years before that, who would you recruit out of the transfer portal to compete with Bijan and Roschon? There's only the tiniest sliver of an argument for adding another last year with Baxter, Brooks, and Keilan Robinson. This year, fine, make the argument but it was still a room with some experience and talented freshman coming in. It wasn't barren until injuries hit.

I've followed Choice's career since his playing days when he gave that badass speech in the GT locker room and have always considered him to be a man of high character.

For him to want to give carries and opportunities to the guys who he sat in their living room and promised them opportunities is consistent with that perception. He also doesnt seem like the tampering type. He's a look you in the eye mean what he says type. He was a definite asset to the Longhorn football program, and any inferred disrespect on Tashard Choice's character or value as a coach has been wildly misconstrued here.

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2 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Its no disrespect to Choice to suggest that good coaches sometimes have differences in philosophy and move around. Choice didnt want to recruit college running backs. Maybe he didn't want to fuck over his fellow rb coaches who knows. Its not a knock on his character. 

Maybe we get a rb coach who's more aggressive with the transfer portal. Maybe Choice is more suited to coaching grown men under contract in the NFL and positioning himself for a bigger role. Both can be true. Maybe I'm completely wrong. Either way Im just some dumbass who watches too much Texas football

You're right, you are a dumbass

3 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

You're right, you are a dumbass

Aren't you the guy who told me there was no way Jonathon Brooks would get drafted after he hurt his knee?

I didn’t realize Rutgers had extended Orphey twice the last two years and his salary was up to 500k. For a school like Rutgers that is a pretty big chunk of change for a position coach.

Apparently Kiffin tried to hire him away to Ole Miss at some point.

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2 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I didn’t realize Rutgers had extended Orphey twice the last two years and his salary was up to 500k. For a school like Rutgers that is a pretty big chunk of change for a position coach.

Apparently Kiffin tried to hire him away to Ole Miss at some point.

Orphey is what you would get if you went in a lab and designed a prototype young, up and comer DB coach in a lab.

>spent last 4 years learning to coach DBs from Saban and Schiano, two of the best technical teachers and guys who are hands on with the secondary

>good enough interview to sell Sark, Saban, and Schiano on hiring him. Should translate to recruiting

>went to North Shore

9 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Its no disrespect to Choice to suggest that good coaches sometimes have differences in philosophy and move around. Choice didnt want to recruit college running backs. Maybe he didn't want to fuck over his fellow rb coaches who knows. Its not a knock on his character. 

Maybe we get a rb coach who's more aggressive with the transfer portal. Maybe Choice is more suited to coaching grown men under contract in the NFL and positioning himself for a bigger role. Both can be true. Maybe I'm completely wrong. Either way Im just some dumbass who watches too much Texas football

 

3 minutes ago, jeevsie said:

Just keep digging, just keep digging....

Great horny toads, he musta dug clear through to Chinee

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(From the Georgia Tech site.)

 

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Errin Joe - Football - Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets


Georgia Tech letterwinner Errin Joe is in his sixth season overall on his alma mater’s staff. He serves as the Yellow Jackets’ director of player personnel.

Joe returned to The Flats in 2023 after spending the 2022 season as assistant director of player personnel at Alabama, where he helped the Crimson Tide recruit the nation’s No. 1-ranked incoming class. During his time at Alabama, he was named one of college football’s rising stars in personnel and recruiting staffers by On3.

Prior to his 10-month stint at Alabama, Joe was hired as director of recruiting at UConn. He served in the role for two months before joining the Crimson Tide.

From 2018-21, Joe was a member of Georgia Tech’s football staff. He came back to Tech in 2018 as a graduate assistant, working with the Yellow Jackets’ offensive line. He held that role for three seasons before moving into recruiting as Tech’s associate director of player personnel in 2021.

As a student-athlete, Joe started 16 games over his final two seasons at Georgia Tech (2014-15). He started the final seven games of the 2014 campaign at right tackle, helping anchor an offensive front that led the nation in rushing with a school record 342.1 yards per game and allowed just 0.79 sacks per game, good for second nationally.

He returned to The Flats after spending the 2017 season as quality-control assistant at Florida International University. Following the end of his playing career, he spent the 2016-17 academic year as an English teacher at his high school alma mater, Lake Gibson H.S. in Lakeland, Fla.

Joe needed just three-and-a-half years to earn a bachelor’s degree in literature, media and communication from Georgia Tech, graduating in December 2014, and studied economics while completing his final season of athletic eligibility in 2015. He earned master’s degree in building construction and facility management from Georgia Tech in 2020.

 

 

I guess we got him back as part of the trade for Gideon. I hope the rest of the return was a few players from Georgia for this cycle.

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Texas football coaches are back in the office. The coaches, the majority of them, actually returned yesterday morning from vacation.

That’s when Tashard Choice told his peers and others in the building he was headed to the NFL.

While it caught us off guard, Choice’s move was not entirely surprising.

There was some thought he would go to Dallas just a week ago after speaking with the Cowboys. But Dallas’ contract offer didn’t even meet what Choice was making financially with the Longhorns.

Detroit came calling. They valued Choice differently. So he’s off to the NFL.

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There’s no easy way to put it. Losing Choice is a definite loss for the Longhorns. He’s not only a good coach, he connects well with players and he brings a vibe to practice and the field that few can replicate.

But…

I’d caution anyone who wants to overreact to this move.

Assistant coaches are often nomadic by profession. Until they become head coaches, they essentially are forced to be.

People thought Bo Davis moving on to LSU would be hard to replace. Well, perhaps he was. But Kenny Baker has stepped in just fine.

The same can be said for Chris Jackson taking over for Brennan Marion.

The big moves that define staffs typically are the offensive and defensive coordinator, not the positional assistants.

For that, Texas remains in good hands. Not only with Sark running the offense but with Pete Kwiatkowski operating the defense.

In other words, it sucks to see Tashard Choice head off to the NFL. It truly does.

But he will be replaced and the Texas offense will march on.

5 minutes ago, Getafix said:

 

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(From the Georgia Tech site.)

 

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Errin Joe - Football - Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets


Georgia Tech letterwinner Errin Joe is in his sixth season overall on his alma mater’s staff. He serves as the Yellow Jackets’ director of player personnel.

Joe returned to The Flats in 2023 after spending the 2022 season as assistant director of player personnel at Alabama, where he helped the Crimson Tide recruit the nation’s No. 1-ranked incoming class. During his time at Alabama, he was named one of college football’s rising stars in personnel and recruiting staffers by On3.

Prior to his 10-month stint at Alabama, Joe was hired as director of recruiting at UConn. He served in the role for two months before joining the Crimson Tide.

From 2018-21, Joe was a member of Georgia Tech’s football staff. He came back to Tech in 2018 as a graduate assistant, working with the Yellow Jackets’ offensive line. He held that role for three seasons before moving into recruiting as Tech’s associate director of player personnel in 2021.

As a student-athlete, Joe started 16 games over his final two seasons at Georgia Tech (2014-15). He started the final seven games of the 2014 campaign at right tackle, helping anchor an offensive front that led the nation in rushing with a school record 342.1 yards per game and allowed just 0.79 sacks per game, good for second nationally.

He returned to The Flats after spending the 2017 season as quality-control assistant at Florida International University. Following the end of his playing career, he spent the 2016-17 academic year as an English teacher at his high school alma mater, Lake Gibson H.S. in Lakeland, Fla.

Joe needed just three-and-a-half years to earn a bachelor’s degree in literature, media and communication from Georgia Tech, graduating in December 2014, and studied economics while completing his final season of athletic eligibility in 2015. He earned master’s degree in building construction and facility management from Georgia Tech in 2020.

 

 

Director of Scouting seems like a new position and not replacement looking at support staff on the Texas website. 

10 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Maybe I'm completely wrong. Either way Im just some dumbass

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Kind of interesting - I spoke with a high school and current friend of Gideon. He said there were "a lot" of better athletes on the Leander team. But, he worked his ass off and studied a lot of film because his dad was the coach. He knew what other teams were going to do and got the defense lined up correctly. So, basically it was true that he was a coach on the field. As for the move, the guy basically said that it was just the right opportunity (money and upward mobility).

8 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Kind of interesting - I spoke with a high school and current friend of Gideon. He said there were "a lot" of better athletes on the Leander team. But, he worked his ass off and studied a lot of film because his dad was the coach. He knew what other teams were going to do and got the defense lined up correctly. So, basically it was true that he was a coach on the field. As for the move, the guy basically said that it was just the right opportunity (money and upward mobility).

Thanks, I would have never guessed a coaches kid would be a coach on the field and taking a defensive coordinator job is a step up from safeties coach!

10 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Kind of interesting - I spoke with a high school and current friend of Gideon. He said there were "a lot" of better athletes on the Leander team. But, he worked his ass off and studied a lot of film because his dad was the coach. He knew what other teams were going to do and got the defense lined up correctly. So, basically it was true that he was a coach on the field. As for the move, the guy basically said that it was just the right opportunity (money and upward mobility).

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Director of Scouting seems like a new position and not replacement looking at support staff on the Texas website. 

Sounds like Texas is staffing up to be a mainstay in Georgia, which I love. Hopefully this is a Chris Gilbert level dude, I know Ga Tech had been recruiting above their station for the last couple of years. 

Just now, Vertigo said:

Sounds like Texas is staffing up to be a mainstay in Georgia, which I love. Hopefully this is a Chris Gilbert level dude, I know Ga Tech had been recruiting above their station for the last couple of years. 

You have to because Georgia has rapidly replaced Cali as the top 3 producer in college and NFL players. 

12 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Its no disrespect to Choice to suggest that good coaches sometimes have differences in philosophy and move around. Choice didnt want to recruit college running backs. Maybe he didn't want to fuck over his fellow rb coaches who knows. Its not a knock on his character. 

Maybe we get a rb coach who's more aggressive with the transfer portal. Maybe Choice is more suited to coaching grown men under contract in the NFL and positioning himself for a bigger role. Both can be true. Maybe I'm completely wrong. Either way Im just some dumbass who watches too much Texas football

I have not been that enamored with Choice's recruiting of the RB position.  Not saying it's a failure or anything.  Just not that impressed with it.

4 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I have not been that enamored with Choice's recruiting of the RB position.  Not saying it's a failure or anything.  Just not that impressed with it.

It is true we have not seen Choice hit it at Texas with one of his RB recruits, though it is still early to make that judgement, but the biggest value Choice brought to Texas was opening up the doors in Georgia and Florida.  Texas got 4 kids out of Georgia last year, that isnt a coincidence. He was welcomed at any school in Georgia and Florida. That is why I will be hoping for a long shot like Juluke to be the next RB coach at Texas.                                                                            

Just now, Codaxx said:

It is true we have not seen Choice hit it at Texas with one of his RB recruits, though it is still early to make that judgement, but the biggest value Choice brought to Texas was opening up the doors in Georgia and Florida.  Texas got 4 kids out of Georgia last year, that isnt a coincidence. He was welcomed at any school in Georgia and Florida. That is why I will be hoping for a long shot like Juluke to be the next RB coach at Texas.                                                                            

I understand he is an elite recruiter.  And he recruits far more than just the RB position. I just don't think his recruiting of running backs has been anything to write home about.  Not an F or anything like that.  But just average for what Texas can get.

And I hope we grab one in the spring portal unless the two high school guys have some kind of amazing initial returns.

11 hours ago, cmontexas said:

CTJ, I know you're involved in the money side of things. I theorize that Choice had great unseen value on the retention side of NIL, getting his guys to buy in and reup cheap. That will be difficult and potentially costly to replace. 

Are you complaining about the state of the Texas RB room during his tenure? Because on a per capita basis, he's been the best RB coach results wise in the last 20-25 years.

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