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#951
3 minutes ago, speed817 said:

At what point are people going to open fire on the nazis?  There's going to be a moment where these "ICE agents" will try to grab the wrong people and someone or some group is going to fight back....

Ex-military when they start going after Afghanis who helped the war effort.

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#952
At what point are the nazis going to open fire on people doing that?

Maybe people will fire back, especially if these clowns aren’t going to show any identification and cover their faces. Seems like self defense to me.
#954

I've seen a few other clips from that San Diego incident. Seems pretty obvious those guys were proud boy/patriot front/KKK and not real agents. Their kit didn't match, several of them were wearing sneakers (saw one of them in Vans), no identifying patches/badges/whatever, and a couple of them were fat as fuck. Maybe they were deputized, but I've never seen any dickheads like this back down if they have/had real authority. They'd have been more likely to start lobbing tear gas and arresting the protesters if they had the authority to do so. 

#955

This may or may not be the right thread for this, but my parents' caretaker (originally from Cameroon) missed a day of work last week cuz her son got thrown in jail for speeding (as we originally understood it) and HPD couldn't even tell her at the time what jail he was in. He was eventually released with a "contest of speed" (?) (racing) charge, though no other car was pulled over. Could be legit or could be a cop amping up a charge against a black male with a foreign-sounding last name. The guy's a really decent kid, taking college courses who aspires to work for the FBI and a guilty plea, as he understands it (amongst other things) would be an impediment to that. They can't afford 10 grand for a lawyer, so in the spirit of "it doesn't hurt to ask" would any legal eagles have any off-the-cuff advice or guide to resources in fighting this?

#956
"And know this: the day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empire’s authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege."
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#957

I imagine that we will soon see guidance from the AG that confronting an ICE agent will be considered a federal felony and will lead to an arrest. and subject to accidental falling down 3 flights of stairs (in a 2 story federal building.)

#958
1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

and subject to accidental falling down 3 flights of stairs (in a 2 story federal building.)

falling onto some bullets.....

#959
26 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

This may or may not be the right thread for this, but my parents' caretaker (originally from Cameroon) missed a day of work last week cuz her son got thrown in jail for speeding (as we originally understood it) and HPD couldn't even tell her at the time what jail he was in. He was eventually released with a "contest of speed" (?) (racing) charge, though no other car was pulled over. Could be legit or could be a cop amping up a charge against a black male with a foreign-sounding last name. The guy's a really decent kid, taking college courses who aspires to work for the FBI and a guilty plea, as he understands it (amongst other things) would be an impediment to that. They can't afford 10 grand for a lawyer, so in the spirit of "it doesn't hurt to ask" would any legal eagles have any off-the-cuff advice or guide to resources in fighting this?

Not a lawyer but I think you can request deferred adjudication. Some places the court clerk can OK it over the phone and sometimes the judge wants you to request in person. Do defensive driving and no tickets for 90 days and it gets dismissed 

#961
Not a lawyer but I think you can request deferred adjudication. Some places the court clerk can OK it over the phone and sometimes the judge wants you to request in person. Do defensive driving and no tickets for 90 days and it gets dismissed 

This is not a ticket. It’s a Class B misdemeanor. He needs to request a court appointed attorney if he can’t afford to retain one.
#963

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Obviously, New Orleans does not need any completed flood control projects to help the city.   It is far more important to find out who has tattoos on their knuckles and to send them out of the country than to have them complete our flood control project.

#964
32 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

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Obviously, New Orleans does not need any completed flood control projects to help the city.   It is far more important to find out who has tattoos on their knuckles and to send them out of the country than to have them complete our flood control project.

Not to worry, now that Louisiana has banned chemtrails, no more cloud seeding therefore no more rain!  And now that Trump in charge, no more deep state Democrat-controlled hurricanes being directed into the Gulf of America.  So no need for FEMA.  It's all under control, 5-D chess and all.

#965

This is a fun read...

Milwaukee man charged with identity theft for allegedly writing letter that led to arrest of man by ICE agents

 

A Milwaukee man is facing criminal charges after he admitted to sending letters threatening President Donald Trump under an immigrant’s name, telling police his plan was to have the man deported.

Demetric Scott, 52, was charged with identify theft, intimidating a witness and two counts of bail jumping Monday. His aim, according to the criminal complaint, was to block the man he targeted with the false letter from testifying against him at an upcoming criminal trial.

His alleged scheme initially seemed to be working.

Ramon Morales Reyes, 54, was arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement on May 22. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem released a statement naming Morales Reyes and saying, “Thanks to our ICE officers, this illegal alien who threatened to assassinate President Trump is behind bars.”

The statement included an image of the letter, handwritten in English.

However, Morales Reyes’ attorneys soon pointed out that their client could not have written the letter because he cannot speak or write in English. Morales Reyes’ supporters suggested he had been set up by someone involved in the criminal case in which he was a victim of an armed robbery.

According to the complaint filed against Scott, he has been in custody at the Milwaukee County Criminal Justice Facility awaiting trial for armed robbery and battery charges filed in 2023.

Because phone calls from jail are recorded, detectives were able to listen to calls he made from the facility that discussed his plan to try and frame Morales Reyes, according to the complaint.

On the calls, Scott could be heard asking others for help sending out an envelope. He also asked for the addresses of the Department of Justice and the “Attorney General.”

In another call, he said he sent a large envelope to his “mama’s house” and he said the letter had to be sent out “from the street.”

“This dude is a god—- illegal immigrant and they just need to pick his a– up,” Scott said in another call.

“And the judge will agree cause if he gets picked up by ICE, there won’t be
a Jury Trial so they will probably dismiss it that day,” he said on the call. “That’s my plan.”

A Milwaukee Police Department detective interviewed Scott on May 30. During the interview he said he, “admitted that he wrote everything on the letters and envelopes himself,” according to the complaint.

“The defendant (Scott) stated that he believed the letters were the simplest way to get ‘this as—–‘ off his back,” the complaint states.

According to the complaint, Scott wrote and sent letters to the Wisconsin Attorney General’s Office, the Milwaukee police chief and the Milwaukee Immigration and Customs Enforcement office. All of the letters threatened Trump’s life and had a return address of “RM-R.”

The letter sent to the ICE office in Milwaukee said, “I will self deport myself back to Mexico but not before I use my 30 yard 6 to shoot your precious president in [his] head.”

“I will see him at one of his big ralleys,” the letter added.

Morales Reyes supporters had last week called on federal officials to issue a correction about the statement blaming him for the threats against Trump.

On Monday, his attorney said the family was relieved that he had been cleared through the legal case against Scott.

“It has been a painful and terrifying past few days for Ramon and his family,” his attorney Kime Abduli said in a statement Monday night. “I’m relieved to know that the actual author may have been identified, and especially relieved that Ramon’s innocence in all of this has been made clear.”

However, Morales Reyes remains in custody at the ICE detention facility in Dodge County.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security statement said Morales Reyes had entered the country illegally at least nine times from 1998 to 2005 and that he had a criminal record. He had been working with Abduli to get his U-visa, or a “U nonimmigrant status” for people who are “victims of certain crimes,” according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Attorney Cain Oulahan is working with Morales Reyes now regarding his possible deportation. He said Morales Reyes has a hearing in immigration court in Chicago this week.

Scott is scheduled to make an initial appearance on the charges related to the letter Tuesday.

 

#969
7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

and his twin brother Deimperial

 

That asshole LOVES fractions

#970
A million years ago, this was a national scandal. Today, it is just an every day occurrence that we all tacitly accept. [contains quote post or other embedded content]

 

 

#971

ICE but they also have Police, ATF and FBI gear on...... 🤷‍♂️

 

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PRO PUBLICA: Of the 238 men sent to an El Salvador mega prison, only 6 had prior violent crime convictions. 0 were on the gang member list. 130 had no criminal history. 32 had minor offenses. All 238 thought they were being sent back to Venezuela. https://www.instagram.com/p/DKcjM7FPhzw/?img_index=7&igsh=NHplbXZ4a2gzdHpz

 

#974
All these fucking dudes look so ridiculous. What the fuck is this

What is it? Well, see, it’s a necessary step in establishing a fascist police state. You have to create and empower a Gestapo, Stasi, etc. so that you can enforce your extra-legal power with force and violence. It’s in the playbook. It’s not a complicated playbook.
#975
14 hours ago, Zepol87 said:

All these fucking dudes look so ridiculous. What the fuck is this

Proud boy failures who get hard off of cosplaying soldiers while fucking with people with skin color.

#976
On 6/2/2025 at 12:32 PM, royiv said:

So have we just forgotten about Abrego Garcia at this point? 

While all the relevant documents remain sealed, we can expect that the Trump admin has been continuing to stonewall on discovery to the point where it has become obviously sanctionable. [contains quote post or other embedded content]

@TwiceHorn what happens here? 

#977
On 6/3/2025 at 9:53 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I imagine that we will soon see guidance from the AG that confronting an ICE agent will be considered a federal felony and will lead to an arrest. and subject to accidental falling down 3 flights of stairs (in a 2 story federal building.)

"I am Akram."

IYKYK.

#978
1 hour ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:
While all the relevant documents remain sealed, we can expect that the Trump admin has been continuing to stonewall on discovery to the point where it has become obviously sanctionable. [contains quote post or other embedded content]

@TwiceHorn what happens here? 

Rule 37 provides for sanctions for improper responses to discovery, I.e. "discovery abuse."  This differs somewhat from other sanctions that a district court can deliver, for bad pleadings (Rule 11), and general vexatious conduct by inherent power and by statute.

Under Rule 37, it depends on what the abuse is.  The first "line" of sanctions is paying the other side's attorneys fees and expenses in securing proper answers to discovery.  beyond that, the rule provides for:

the court where the action is pending may issue further just orders. They may include the following:

(i) directing that the matters embraced in the order or other designated facts be taken as established for purposes of the action, as the prevailing party claims;

(ii) prohibiting the disobedient party from supporting or opposing designated claims or defenses, or from introducing designated matters in evidence;

(iii) striking pleadings in whole or in part;

(iv) staying further proceedings until the order is obeyed;

(v) dismissing the action or proceeding in whole or in part;

(vi) rendering a default judgment against the disobedient party; or

(vii) treating as contempt of court the failure to obey any order except an order to submit to a physical or mental examination.

 

#979
On 6/3/2025 at 9:31 AM, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

This may or may not be the right thread for this, but my parents' caretaker (originally from Cameroon) missed a day of work last week cuz her son got thrown in jail for speeding (as we originally understood it) and HPD couldn't even tell her at the time what jail he was in. He was eventually released with a "contest of speed" (?) (racing) charge, though no other car was pulled over. Could be legit or could be a cop amping up a charge against a black male with a foreign-sounding last name. The guy's a really decent kid, taking college courses who aspires to work for the FBI and a guilty plea, as he understands it (amongst other things) would be an impediment to that. They can't afford 10 grand for a lawyer, so in the spirit of "it doesn't hurt to ask" would any legal eagles have any off-the-cuff advice or guide to resources in fighting this?

I'm sure one of the 10,000 lawyers on here that do nothing but shit post all day will find time in their busy schedule to help him out.

#980

So for real, these jackasses run up cosplaying and just grab you or start chasing you in plain clothes what do you do? Can you legally fight back or will that just add to the charges especially when they admit they grabbed the wrong person?

#981
7 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

So for real, these jackasses run up cosplaying and just grab you or start chasing you in plain clothes what do you do? Can you legally fight back or will that just add to the charges especially when they admit they grabbed the wrong person?

as far as I'm concerned you should be justified in any action you take in self defense seeing as you are literally being kidnapped. police aren't supposed to remove their badges and conceal their faces. 

#982
34 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

as far as I'm concerned you should be justified in any action you take in self defense seeing as you are literally being kidnapped. police aren't supposed to remove their badges and conceal their faces. 

The Guns of Austin works nicely.

 

 

 

#984
2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

as far as I'm concerned you should be justified in any action you take in self defense seeing as you are literally being kidnapped. police aren't supposed to remove their badges and conceal their faces. 

Under normal circumstances, sure. Today? Good luck with that.

#986
5 hours ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:
While all the relevant documents remain sealed, we can expect that the Trump admin has been continuing to stonewall on discovery to the point where it has become obviously sanctionable. [contains quote post or other embedded content]

@TwiceHorn what happens here? 

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#987
49 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Under normal circumstances, sure. Today? Good luck with that.

whatever happens to you is probably still better than ending up in a gulag in El Salvador. 

#988
4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Rule 37 provides for sanctions for improper responses to discovery, I.e. "discovery abuse."  This differs somewhat from other sanctions that a district court can deliver, for bad pleadings (Rule 11), and general vexatious conduct by inherent power and by statute.

Under Rule 37, it depends on what the abuse is.  The first "line" of sanctions is paying the other side's attorneys fees and expenses in securing proper answers to discovery.  beyond that, the rule provides for:

the court where the action is pending may issue further just orders. They may include the following:

(i) directing that the matters embraced in the order or other designated facts be taken as established for purposes of the action, as the prevailing party claims;

(ii) prohibiting the disobedient party from supporting or opposing designated claims or defenses, or from introducing designated matters in evidence;

(iii) striking pleadings in whole or in part;

(iv) staying further proceedings until the order is obeyed;

(v) dismissing the action or proceeding in whole or in part;

(vi) rendering a default judgment against the disobedient party; or

(vii) treating as contempt of court the failure to obey any order except an order to submit to a physical or mental examination.

 

Addendum to this.  So much of the docket is under seal, but the government and Abrego Garcia have been going back and forth about the adequacy of the government's responses  to discovery.  The court has ordered the government to respond and cure the deficiencies, which is a prerequisite to obtaining sanctions.

They seem to have been through this drill several times.

So, sanctions seem to be on the table for repeated instances of disobeying court orders.  The government has "incrementally" responded to each court order, not quite complying and offering new excuses and justifications for less-than-full compliance.  For example, they originally resisted discovery not on state secrets, but some sort of separation-of-powers, this is the executive's sole prerogative shit.  They didn't raise state secrets until the second or third go-round, and then they did it in a conclusory fashion..

So that seems pretty well teed up for something.  What exactly remains to be seen.

Sanctions on the government are pretty rare because a) they're usually pretty good about obeying the rules and doing what they're supposed to and b) the government ostensibly represents the public interest and is not "made of money" (the usual or first sanction).

The quality of advocacy here is pretty low.  The briefs may be decent, if disingenuous, but the behavior is really over the top.  But exactly the kind of shit you expect from Trumpy lawyers.

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#990
On 6/3/2025 at 4:26 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:
A million years ago, this was a national scandal. Today, it is just an every day occurrence that we all tacitly accept. [contains quote post or other embedded content]

 

 

Whenever I see these fucks roll in 10 deep strapped with AR-15s in tacticool gear to snatch a single 60-yr old abuela, I can't help but think of this ...

 You sure you clowns brought enough guys?

#991
On 5/31/2025 at 6:36 AM, Francisco 2.0 said:
Last night ICE raided busy San Diego restaurants using flash bangs to disperse crowds… If the goal isn’t to terrorize ppl why not do it on a Tuesday? It’s almost as if ICE is an organization intentionally spreading as much fear as possible, even if it makes their job harder…Theres a word for that

 

 

Local news had details on the warrant this morning.  It was based on a tip they received in 2020.  
 

Obviously took 5 years to gear up.

#992

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Apparently, the webpage that Jamie Raskin posted to point out that the bill Republicans passed 5/1 to allow J6 criminals to serve in ICE roles was scrubbed from the internet.

#993
53 minutes ago, C-Man said:

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Apparently, the webpage that Jamie Raskin posted to point out that the bill Republicans passed 5/1 to allow J6 criminals to serve in ICE roles was scrubbed from the internet.

Link?

#995

Scrubbed by whom?  Seems as if the Democrats ought to have control over their own webpage?

#997

Kidnapping one of their own. 
 

SCOOP: A deputy U.S. marshal was mistakenly detained by immigration agents inside the federal building that houses Tucson's immigration court, U.S. Marshals Service officials confirmed on Thursday. @tucson.com https://tucson.com/news/local/border/article_2573f016-3596-4f32-93f7-7e99b6459675.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

 

#998
22 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Kidnapping one of their own. 
 

SCOOP: A deputy U.S. marshal was mistakenly detained by immigration agents inside the federal building that houses Tucson's immigration court, U.S. Marshals Service officials confirmed on Thursday. @tucson.com https://tucson.com/news/local/border/article_2573f016-3596-4f32-93f7-7e99b6459675.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

 

Hmm, Tucson.  I wonder what color he was?

#999
🚨NEW: ICE is arresting people who can't even legally be deported and holding them without enough food or water in a federal building BASEMENT in Los Angeles. Families dutifully attending check-ins with ICE are being arrested and held for days, forced to sleep on the floor. https://t.co/GAb2Er0bOO

 

#1000
EVERYBODY WATCH. ICE IS OUT OF CONTROL. Video of SEIU California’s President David Huerta getting assaulted & arrested during an ICE raid in the warehouse district of Downtown Los Angeles today. He’s an LA native, American citizen and labor leader. Don’t turn away.

 

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