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2 hours ago, immamac said:

proper use of a fucking embed.

he doesn't look no fucking 270 and fat and out of shape. 

Yeah…that was clearly bullshit to anyone following the mavs. Fuck Nico and fuck the adelsons

21 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:


Assume this is real. AD is not pleased

 

 

Seriously dude? 

3 hours ago, Js1 said:

I’m just saying, it’s not far fetched. The ownership family wants to force Texas’ hand in legalizing gambling. 

Yeah, well, negotiations kinda grind to a halt after you’ve shot the hostages. 

2 hours ago, TexasGary said:

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He just doesn't look overweight to me.  Especially for being out for over a month.

This is a public abduction.  We are watching a damn kidnapping.

4 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

How are the stated objective of the ownership group (a Casino complex in DFW) or their heavily implied plan B (a new casino complex and NBA team in Las Vegas) a conspiracy theory? Those things aren’t conspiratorial. 
The only question is whether this trade happened explicitly because of, or as part of indirect service to, those objectives. 
it fits either way. There will be a Casino AND  a new stadium in DFW or  the Mavs are gone. 

Look, there's some large sized assumptions you have to make in your implications, but I'm not going to defend the Adelson's or Dumond's.  If you think they're terrible people who are looking for leverage to bring gambling to Texas (a goal way before they had any idea of the Mavs opportunity) OR pick up their toys and go home to Vegas with the organization in tow, then you have only a few groups to blame..... First, them for deliberately lying and fraudulently trying to build relationships amongst business owners in the DFW area.  Second, Mark Cuban...... who, heavily rumored to be leveraged for his own problems, either mistakenly or haphazardly sold the team off to such vultures.  The league and other governors for taking the family in good faith because they presumably know this family and because they are "part of the in crowd", the ownership change was approved so quickly.  All of that said, moving a team is actually kind of difficult and actually requires taking short-term cash flow losses and damaging the brand and the actual value of the product, especially one with good economics like the Mavericks.  And failure would necessitate another sell which would be unbelievably embarrassing for said group (Remember the Maloofs?) But anything is possible.

 

3 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

This really is a good point. I just generally lean toward incompetence as an explanatory factor over something more complex or sinister. Stupidity explains a lot. 

Ha.  This is a fantastic point.

 

3 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

This really is a good point. I just generally lean toward incompetence as an explanatory factor over something more complex or sinister. Stupidity explains a lot. 

Exactly..... this will be a good and painful litmus test for Dumond...... Yes, trust your basketball people.... to a point.  If you don't know what the fuck you're doing, then ensure you have counsel and always verify and check in on management.  

2 hours ago, Iceman said:

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Autocorrect putting up a hell of a fight in this post

5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

wang zhizhi

Wang Zhi Zhi once got 18k people a free chalupa. In my house Wang Zhi Zhi is a hero.

44 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

Seriously dude? 

No, not seriously.  I am aware of the title.  But his AI is saying what everyone thinks.

8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Wang Zhi Zhi once got 18k people a free chalupa. In my house Wang Zhi Zhi is a hero.

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4 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

The guys on the ticket this morning said this is 100% Harrison with no input from ownership (including Cuban). Said he has been shedding euro players since he got here as well as isolating Luka in terms of coaching and ancillary staff. 
 

supposedly he has a vision of the types of players he thinks can win championships in the NBA and he looked across the league and AD was the one he wanted with what he has already assembled 

even if this is all true it is inexcusable to get only one number 1 4 years from now.  That’s just a terrible unforced error 

sounds like a total moron to me but time will tell

 

 

 

Oh absolutely. It's impossible to win an NBA title with international players.

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3 hours ago, TexasGary said:

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He just doesn't look overweight to me.  Especially for being out for over a month.

I had no idea Rob Lowe became the GM of the Lakers.

Just now, Dbeasy said:

Oh absolutely. It's impossible to win an NBA title with international players.

Make the NBA great again?! 

Nothing has ever hurt me as a sports fan as much as this trade. Still can't wrap my head around it. 

Just sad and numb. Fuck Nico. He'll be gone in 2 years. This feels like a decision that will alter the franchise for decades.

 

4 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

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Because this is completely normal to do after a trade. 

3 hours ago, TexasGary said:

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He just doesn't look overweight to me.  Especially for being out for over a month.

Heather gray is slimming 

31 minutes ago, AngryDragon said:

Because this is completely normal to do after a trade. 

you gotta like the balls on calling what you believe is a bluff by your season ticket holders.  My guess is they aren't calculating that it is going to be a shitshow while Davis is out and not much better even when he gets back(and then Kyrie has to sit out due to a foot or back injury) and people will flip over the pocket aces.

what prevents them from getting back in later? especially if it craters the team for 2-3 years.  I'm asking because I don't know how the season tickets work with the Mavs.

24 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Heather gray is slimming 

Truly fat guys don’t wear sweaters over a button up. Just amplifies your fatness. 

I have young sons and live in LA. I'm taking this as an opportunity to allow them to be Laker fans and not deal with the bullshit I've endured as a Dallasite.

3 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

This isn't even germane to the conversation, but there are many other passionate and loyal fanbases in the NBA that I would put above Dallas. I always considered Dallas a bandwagon sports town. There are too many other sports options. That arena was never considered one of the loudest or difficult to play in.

The passion is especially high in cities that don't have any other major league teams. I would start with Sacramento -- their fans have been shit on forever and they still love their team. Utah, Portland, Memphis, OKC, and San Antonio. None of those places have any other local team to root for. Now that the Mavs committed seppuku, Dallas fans can just as easily go pour their love into the Cowboys for example. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

I have young sons and live in LA. I'm taking this as an opportunity to allow them to be Laker fans and not deal with the bullshit I've endured as a Dallasite.

I attended Shout Parties in 87 and 88 and had a green and blue  “Beat LA” sign. I may give *myself* permission to be a Lakers fan.

These are not the Dallas Mavericks. These are the Las Vegas Traitors. 

Edited by Bozo_Casanova

As a Laker fan, I'm just glad we finally caught a break in getting a star player here.

5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I attended Shout Parties in 87 and 88 and had a green and blue  “Beat LA” sign. I may give *myself* permission to be a Lakers fan.

These are not the Dallas Mavericks. These are the Las Vegas Traitors. 

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1 minute ago, Sbbruin said:

As a Laker fan, I'm just glad we finally caught a break in getting a star player here.

6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

On second thought, I can’t go there. Fuck the Lakers. 

2 hours ago, AngryDragon said:

Nothing has ever hurt me as a sports fan as much as this trade. Still can't wrap my head around it. 

Just sad and numb. Fuck Nico. He'll be gone in 2 years. This feels like a decision that will alter the franchise for decades.

 

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3 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

As a Laker fan, I'm just glad we finally caught a break in getting a star player here.

Perfect. Absolutely perfect. Hope you're hanging in there, Sbb!

1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

I have young sons and live in LA. I'm taking this as an opportunity to allow them to be Laker fans and not deal with the bullshit I've endured as a Dallasite.

I hope he realizes that it’s no disco. Ain’t no country club either. 

On 2/2/2025 at 10:34 PM, Derka said:

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The guy who actually wrote the article, Ethan Strauss, said that Nico wasn't the guy who called Steph, Stephawn (the actual name mistake in the article is Stephawn not Seth). In fact he was on a Dallas area podcast just yesterday and pointed out  totally missed the point of his article. If anything the thrust was that Nico was a relationship manager and not an executive with decision making powers. He was basically a guy who made sure the athletes were happy. Steph was one of his clients but Kobe was his main client. The top decision maker for NIke didnt even attend the meeting with Steph, which, as Ethan points out in the article, more or less demonstrates what the prevailing winds were indicating as to the level of importance of Steph to the Nike portfolio at the time, (he wasnt). He goes onto say that Nico essentially peter principled as a GM after Mark sold the team. The plan was for Mark to be the defacto GM and Nico to curry favor with players he had relationships with.  When Mark sold to the Adelson's Nico was essentially promoted and now took on a role he was never supposed to have in practice. Strauss also theorized that the negotiations between Nico and Pelinka may have reverted back to the dynamic they had when Pelinka was Kobe's agent and Nico was his Nike rep. As a Nike rep for a client such as Kobe the biggest job description is to please your client and those associated with him ie his agent. Everything reported about the trade negotiations between Nico and Pelinka plays out as though Nico had a pavlovian response to please Pelinka as he did when he was Kobe's agent. 

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I attended Shout Parties in 87 and 88 and had a green and blue  “Beat LA” sign. I may give *myself* permission to be a Lakers fan.

These are not the Dallas Mavericks. These are the Las Vegas Traitors. 

Yeah, I’ve been here for 15 years. No Dirk, Cuban, or Luka feels like an opportunity to move on. 

8 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The Mavericks are a large local market team with no national fan base, and not for nothing, are the distantly third most important franchise in their own market. 
 I would argue that until Sunday the Mavericks had the most passionate and loyal fan base in the league. They inherited that spot when the Sonics moved out of Seattle and the Warriors left Oakland. 

Yeah. One of those things is not like the other. There’s been no appreciable dip in the Warriors fan base. Sure, the ‘move’ stung but mostly because the ticket prices went up so damn much. You can practically see the old arena from the new one across the Bay. It’s like relocating the Mavericks arena to Irving. 
 

But the A’s are dead to everybody I think. Way too much bad blood there. I think there will always be die hard Oakland Raider fans, but not the A’s. 

2 minutes ago, Txzen said:

Yeah. One of those things is not like the other. There’s been no appreciable dip in the Warriors fan base. Sure, the ‘move’ stung but mostly because the ticket prices went up so damn much. You can practically see the old arena from the new one across the Bay. It’s like relocating the Mavericks arena to Irving. 

The Warriors fans in Oakland. Not people who cross the bridge. It’s not anything like the old Warriors fans now. You could be anywhere. 

1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The Warriors fans in Oakland. Not people who cross the bridge. It’s not anything like the old Warriors fans now. You could be anywhere. 

As one of the people in bold there, and surrounded by many more of them, nah. 
 

3rd most important franchise in its own market? Que?

Behind the Cowboys and who else???? Certainly not the Rangers. 

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1 minute ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

3rd most important franchise in its own market? Que?

Behind the Cowboys and who else???? Certainly not the Rangers. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

3rd most important franchise in its own market? Que?

Behind the Cowboys and who else???? Certainly not the Rangers. 

I know nothing about TX but what you guys tell me but I was definitely wondering this as well

 

3 minutes ago, Txzen said:

As one of the people in bold there, and surrounded by many more of them, nah. 
 

Not like the ones I remember. Obviously the city has changed a lot but 20 years ago Oakland Arena wasn’t a polite corporate monoculture, and the local fans who could only afford to go sometimes were even less so. Warriors fans in nowadays seem like frontrunners from anywhereville. These kind of people who say they live “in the Bay Area.”

6 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Behind the Cowboys and who else???? Certainly not the Rangers. 

Of course the Rangers. 

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2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Viva Tatu!

 

he was my first favorite soccer player. my cousin was a ball boy for the sidekicks so i had Tatu’s cards and posters and stuff on my walls growing up. viva Tatu!

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4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Not like the ones I remember. Obviously the city has changed a lot but 20 years ago Oakland Arena wasn’t a polite corporate monoculture, and the local fans who could only afford to go sometimes were even less so. Warriors fans in nowadays seem like frontrunners from anywhereville. These kind of people who say they live “in the Bay Area.”

Of course the Rangers. 

OK

The Rangers went nearly 5 years without even being talked about by local sports radio until their recent run to the world series. They got so little traction by local media that the main Rangers blogger, Jamey Newberg, would complain about it incessantly. 

What Jerry has done to Cowboys over 30 years, Nico did to the Mavs overnight.

10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Not like the ones I remember. Obviously the city has changed a lot but 20 years ago Oakland Arena wasn’t a polite corporate monoculture, and the local fans who could only afford to go sometimes were even less so. Warriors fans in nowadays seem like frontrunners from anywhereville. These kind of people who say they live “in the Bay Area.”

 

I mean, that’s fair and there was much pride in having them here - I very much miss ‘The Town’ jerseys. As they became more successful the O got more corporate, and more expensive. I’ve yet to go to a game in the new place, hear it’s great but it is a different vibe. But none of that I think had a huge impact on the fan base (at least not the crazies I know!). 

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