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#11151
1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

It won't be derailed if the FBI comes back with no new information. The only way his career is derailed is if they find reasons to derail it. He should welcome this.

And to think, this could have been resolved weeks ago with an FBI investigation. 

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#11152
Just now, Stros said:


If the FBI clears him on all the allegations the dems still won’t vote for him. Waste of time.

It's not Democratic votes that you need to worry about. You have the majority and can't whip the votes of your own caucus.

#11153
2 minutes ago, Hammock said:

See how easy it is to derail someone's career with a 36 year old accusation with no evidence? 

 

So how many new allegations are going to come out during a week? I'd say probably two.

So you're conceding that Kavanaugh wouldn't pass an FBI investigation into the allegations?

#11154
1 minute ago, Mojo Hand said:

I can imagine that situation, and it would be horrible.   I do not want the responsibilities and burdens, or benefits, of being a public official.   But withstanding public scrutiny is an obligation and burden he has assumed.  It comes with the territory.   He could work at a law firm if he doesn't want the public to evaluate him for a lifetime Supreme Court job.   But you don't and shouldn't get that honor without a thorough public vetting, and this is part of it.  Because you are imagining, what if he is innocent, but the more important issue for the country is, what if he is guilty, and perjurying himself to get on the Supreme Court? 

"Well, you can become a Supreme Court Judge but there's a good chance you and your family's lives will be altered forever if anyone makes an allegation against you."

Sounds fair.

#11155
See how easy it is to derail someone's career with a 36 year old accusation with no evidence? 
 
So how many new allegations are going to come out during a week? I'd say probably two.


Super easy. The Ds are distributing potential R nominee names in 2025 to women so they can tell their therapists now. Long game.
#11156
1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

I would hope not. He lied under oath. 100%. I don't care if it was a small lie, it was an unequivocal lie. Multiple lies in fact. He should not be a Supreme Court Justice. Before his testimony, I would have said yes. 

I'm here as well.  Not only did he unequivocally lie, his testimony generally was argumentative, nonresponsive, and far from what I'd view as reflecting appropriate judicial temperament.

#11157
None of the Democrats on that committee will vote yes, even if the FBI comes back and say Kavanaugh is 100% innocent.
Everyone knows this. 


Agree. Everyone knows this. Good chat.

Also, Flake is R.
#11158
18 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Anyone want to wager on the next Dem demand.

Special Counsel Investigation???? 

That would wrap up around 2032.

I hear Ken Starr is available.  We know he’s efficiency and speed personified. 

#11159
1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

I would hope not. He lied under oath. 100%. I don't care if it was a small lie, it was an unequivocal lie. Multiple lies in fact. He should not be a Supreme Court Justice. Before his testimony, I would have said yes. 

He flat out spewed word garbage on yes/no questions because he didn't want the responsibility of his answer blowing up in his face.  

#11160
3 minutes ago, Hammock said:

None of the Democrats on that committee will vote yes, even if the FBI comes back and say Kavanaugh is 100% innocent.

Everyone knows this

There is ample reason to vote no on him regardless of whether these allegations are true or not.

#11161

If the FBI clears him on all the allegations the dems still won’t vote for him. Waste of time.


Flake is R. Keep up.
#11162
1 minute ago, Lurch said:

 

 


Super easy. The Ds are distributing potential R nominee names in 2025 to women so they can tell their therapists now. Long game.

 

Don't forget the androgynous vegan intern who Amy Coney Barrett called a hippie faggot.  They'll trot him out in 2025.  Democrats are smart, long game the shit out of this nominees.  Genius plan.

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#11163
1 minute ago, Mapache said:

We're Getting Flaked Again

He wants to look like the reasonable compassionate republican before he votes lock-step...there will be no FBI investigation

I think the war is with the White House.

Except for the Cult 45 clowns, no one really wants to sign their name to Kavanaugh for eternity at this point.  Sadly, it doesn’t matter if the allegations are true or false, the guy is too politically toxic. 

They want the nomination to be someone without baggage, like Gorsuch. 

#11164
Just now, Kilgorehorn said:

There is ample reason to vote no on him regardless of whether these allegations are true or not.

This.

Dude lied under oath many times.

That alone is disqualifying in a functional democracy.

But that ain't what America is, babayyyyyyyyy :)

#11165
1 minute ago, Kilgorehorn said:

There is ample reason to vote no on him regardless of whether these allegations are true or not.

So then why do we need an investigation?

 

Round and round we go.

#11166

How many pages for this thread when the vote is taken in a week?  What is going on in the betting on confirmation markets now?

#11168
Just now, Js1 said:

Don't forget the androgynous vegan intern who Amy Coney Barrett called a hippie faggot.  They'll trot him out in 2025.  Democrats are smart, long game the shit out of this nominees.  Genius plan.

Or go the Republican way and refuse to hear anybody.  

#11170
4 minutes ago, Stros said:


If the FBI clears him on all the allegations the dems still won’t vote for him. Waste of time.

The fact that you said If and not When tells us all we need to know. 

#11171
So then why do we need an investigation?
 
Round and round we go.


Flake is R. Keep up.
#11172
1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

So you're conceding that Kavanaugh wouldn't pass an FBI investigation into the allegations?

I would think he would pass (36 years of working with women and no allegations) and I would hope the FBI's findings would ruin these women if they are lying. That'll be the interesting part. Someone is lying and who will risk their freedom for their agenda. 

#11173
6 minutes ago, Hammock said:

"Well, you can become a Supreme Court Judge but there's a good chance you and your family's lives will be altered forever if anyone makes an allegation against you."

Sounds fair.

Well, yeah.   You don't think Hillary's life has been forever altered by all of the shit people have thrown at her?   Or Trump, even?    That's life as a public figure.   The Supreme Court is the top of one of our branches of government.   It is life-changing in many ways, including the public scrutiny.    Kavanaugh has made the choice to take that on rather than remain a private citizen.  Hell, he made that choice long ago. 

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#11174
17 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Within a five hour window, Jeff Flake managed to piss off everyone in the country.

Great job idiot

Took you long enough to figure what the rest of knew a long time ago.

#11175
1 minute ago, Hammock said:

Someone is lying and who will risk their freedom for their agenda. 

Well, someone has already been lying under oath.

#11178
16 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

You're obviously under 40.  Back in the 80's, "boof" meant butt fuck, and "Devil's Triangle" meant 2 guys and one girl.  It wasn't a regional thing either.

Thanks for spelling that out. I’ve never heard the term “boof,” missed where it was discussed (aside from it being a lie), and was not keen on googling it.

#11179
5 minutes ago, Stros said:


If the FBI clears him on all the allegations the dems still won’t vote for him. Waste of time.

It's not the Dems that need convincing to vote yes. If the FBI clears him on all allegations Flake and Murkowsky will vote for him. So it certainly wont be a waste of time, because without the investigation, Kavanaugh won't get the required yes votes need in the Senate to become a SC Justice.

#11180
4 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

So then why do we need an investigation?

 

Round and round we go.

This can't be a real question

#11183
5 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

 

 

Yep. This so much. And he was lauded for it on the Right.

#11184
2 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

Well, yeah.   You don't think Hillary's life has been forever altered by all of the shit people have thrown at her?   Or Trump, even?    That's life as a public figure.   The Supreme Court is the top of one of our branches of government.   It is life-changing in many ways, including the public scrutiny.    Kavanaugh has made the choice to take that on rather than remain a private citizens.  Hell, he made that choice long ago. 

Exactly.  A few nominees have decided to drop out early when issues surfaced.  Take Douglas Ginsberg in the late 80s.  When Reagan nominated him, it came out that he had smoked the devils weed a few times as an asst professor in the 70s.  He quickly withdrew.    He is a semi-retired judge in the DC circuit today.   He chose to remain relatively anonymous on a national view.

#11185
2 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

BUT HE WENT TO YALE!

Even Yale is telling him to slow his role.

#11186

It's a lot easier to send in a letter to the JC and say I don't recall that party. There was the understanding that it would only be BK and Ford called before the committee.

There's a host of witnesses associated w the current 3 accusers. Seems like it will be much more difficult for reluctant witnesses to sidestep the FBI.

#11187
26 minutes ago, B00M said:

However, since these are being cited as the "100% lies", how are we certain about Bart lying about "devils triangle" and "boof"? Did Judge define them in his book? Were they defined in BK's yearbook? Regardless of the modern day definitions, who knows what they meant in '82, especially in particular teenage social circles. While i believe he lied, i doubt he provably perjured himself.

 

I was a teenager in 1982.  I defined them a few pages back.  "Boof" = anal sex.  "Devil's Triangle" = 3-way (2M 1W).

These are not really arguable points.

#11188
Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Exactly.  A few nominees have decided to drop out early when issues surfaced.  Take Douglas Ginsberg in the late 80s.  When Reagan nominated him, it came out that he had smoked the devils weed a few times as an asst professor in the 70s.  He quickly withdrew.    He is a semi-retired judge in the DC circuit today.   He chose to remain relatively anonymous on a national view.

Kavanaugh has now shame and won't withdraw unless told to do so.

#11189
Just now, DixonHur said:

This can't be a real question

Why does anything Pubs do these days surprise y’all? There is no end to their idiocy, mendacity or depravity.

#11190

Yeah, either Trump withdraws his nomination or he loses a vote.  BK is not capable of a graceful exit.

#11191
Just now, jimmyjazz said:

I was a teenager in 1982.  I defined them a few pages back.  "Boof" = anal sex.  "Devil's Triangle" = 3-way (2M 1W).

These are not really arguable points.

I'm suprised he didn't say he couldn't have done it because on July 1st he was "skiing"...it said so right on the calendar... "Go to Timmy's for skis.."

#11192
Just now, kevwun said:

Yeah, either Trump withdraws his nomination or he loses a vote.  BK is not capable of a graceful exit.

It's his political manifest destiny!!!!

 

#11193
15 minutes ago, Mapache said:

We're Getting Flaked Again

He wants to look like the reasonable compassionate republican before he votes lock-step...there will be no FBI investigation

Flake is acting like somebody who wants to be a lobbyist after Congress or plans on running for other offices.  Can't lobby your former Republican buddies in Congress if you truly alienate them, but at the same time, can't risk alienating moderates/women if you plan on running again.

#11195
Just now, DixonHur said:

I'm suprised he didn't say he couldn't have done it because on July 1st he was "skiing"...it said so right on the calendar... "Go to Timmy's for skis.."

Skiing means cocaine. 

#11196
8 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

So then why do we need an investigation?

 

Round and round we go.

Because the Republicans don't care about any of the other disqualifying shit he's done.

#11197
Just now, DixonHur said:

I'm suprised he didn't say he couldn't have done it because on July 1st he was "skiing"...it said so right on the calendar... "Go to Timmy's for skis.."

July skiing is the best skiing.

#11198
Just now, DixonHur said:

I'm suprised he didn't say he couldn't have done it because on July 1st he was "skiing"...it said so right on the calendar... "Go to Timmy's for skis.."

"We played ski-ball with shot glasses arranged in the ol' devil's triangle." 

#11199
4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Exactly.  A few nominees have decided to drop out early when issues surfaced.  Take Douglas Ginsberg in the late 80s.  When Reagan nominated him, it came out that he had smoked the devils weed a few times as an asst professor in the 70s.  He quickly withdrew.    He is a semi-retired judge in the DC circuit today.   He chose to remain relatively anonymous on a national view.

Glad his wife Ruth Bader had the courage to do it though / b_t

#11200
2 minutes ago, happyfunball said:

Kavanaugh has now shame and won't withdraw unless told to do so.

Especially after that embarrassing performance yesterday. If he’s willing to do that and humiliate himself in front of the world he ain’t voluntarily withdrawing. 

He said this has destroyed his family. I bet his wife enjoyed hearing that one. 

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