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Papers, please. Surly thread of deportation cruelty dominance

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5 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

There are roughly 200 countries in the world. I might be wrong, but damn near 200 countries have border enforcement. It is normal, ordinary course of business function of government. There are not 200 fascist countries in the world. Border enforcement is a basic function of all governments. 

Further, the policy is entirely race neutral. The civil rights act of 1965 eliminated Jim Crow. It made (superfluously, but whatever) discrimination of the basis of race illegal. There is absolutely nothing about the enforcement actions that is racist. It is not possible. If the law is racist, you or someone should identify the racist part of the laws, and have them overturned. I am told there are no such efforts underway.

If you think people in general are racist, that is a CULTURAL issue. It has nothing to do with enforcing laws that have been on the books for decades.

If the people enforcing laws are doing so motivated by racial animus, then they are racists and the enforcement is racist.

The only times in American history we have had these sweeping efforts to deport people, that are so unprincipled and unmoored that they commonly sweep citizens, lawful immigrants, and unlawful immigrants, they were some of the most shameful racist incidents in our history.  https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/texas-exhibit-refuses-to-forget-one-of-the-worst-periods-of-state-sanctioned-violence/  

When we're not only deporting people, but reversing humanitarian immigration policies (TPS for Venezuelans, among others) enacted by the same President, we're getting goddamn near racist territory.

Tell me with a straight face that Stephen Miller isn't the most blatantly racist American politician since George Wallace.

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    Something like 30% of Mexico decamped to the US, mostly illegally. How would you imagine to deport them without deporting your "brown people". You are a lawyer, I frankly expect better than cheap emot

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15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

If the people enforcing laws are doing so motivated by racial animus, then they are racists and the enforcement is racist.

Something like 30% of Mexico decamped to the US, mostly illegally. How would you imagine to deport them without deporting your "brown people". You are a lawyer, I frankly expect better than cheap emotional appeals and logical fallacies.

Moreover, you have no evidence that the average American law enforcement officer is a racist. It's just shit you made up. But let's fire all the racist cops now. All we need is a trace of proof. I support your agenda completely.

I am looking forward to the serial negrep I will soon be getting from @PenelopeWitherspoon LOL. For the uninformed audience, the drunken fat lady has given out more than twice the negrep on this site than any other poster. She is an angry feminist monster.

 

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1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

And I want to repeat it, because you can't explain it. Trump won 12 of 14 Texas border counties in the last election. It's a curious form of racism that dominates on the border. Maybe you can explain it.

Exactly.  There’s no rebuttal because… there’s no rebuttal. As an example, Uvalde county is an hour from the border. It has a great reason for the population to look for gun control. It is 70/30 Hispanic/white. It was fucking 2/1 for Trump. There is one massive reason why.

 

The border was opened wide and they let millions in. Even paid and flew them in to places like Chicago or whatever. I have little doubt that there’s some Tren de Aragua at that housing complex. They probably came in wearing gray sweatsuits at the airport. This is the reaction. 
 

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Sorry, guys. You didn’t care when it happened. I don’t really care when it’s reversed. 

 


 

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

When we're not only deporting people, but reversing humanitarian immigration policies (TPS for Venezuelans, among others)

What does the T stand for?

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12 minutes ago, Chopped said:

You didn’t care when it happened. I don’t really care when it’s reversed. 

What's "it"?

8 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

There are roughly 200 countries in the world. I might be wrong, but damn near 200 countries have border enforcement. It is normal, ordinary course of business function of government. There are not 200 fascist countries in the world. Border enforcement is a basic function of all governments. 

Further, the policy is entirely race neutral. The civil rights act of 1965 eliminated Jim Crow. It made (superfluously, but whatever) discrimination of the basis of race illegal. There is absolutely nothing about the enforcement actions that is racist. It is not possible. If the law is racist, you or someone should identify the racist part of the laws, and have them overturned. I am told there are no such efforts underway.

If you think people in general are racist, that is a CULTURAL issue. It has nothing to do with enforcing laws that have been on the books for decades.

And I want to repeat it, because you can't explain it. Trump won 12 of 14 Texas border counties in the last election. It's a curious form of racism that dominates on the border. Maybe you can explain it.

Racism is impossible because it is illegal? Good thing murder is impossible now too. 

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10 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

Something like 30% of Mexico decamped to the US

Ok, and I am the one making shit up?  

About 39 million Mexicans decamped to the US?  When was this?  

I don't need evidence that the "average American LEO is racist."  The administration is racist and the administration is driving this unprecedented and unprincipled roundup that is theater for a hideously racist bunch that support it.

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14 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

There are roughly 200 countries in the world. I might be wrong, but damn near 200 countries have border enforcement. It is normal, ordinary course of business function of government. There are not 200 fascist countries in the world. Border enforcement is a basic function of all governments. 

Further, the policy is entirely race neutral. The civil rights act of 1965 eliminated Jim Crow. It made (superfluously, but whatever) discrimination of the basis of race illegal. There is absolutely nothing about the enforcement actions that is racist. It is not possible. If the law is racist, you or someone should identify the racist part of the laws, and have them overturned. I am told there are no such efforts underway.

If you think people in general are racist, that is a CULTURAL issue. It has nothing to do with enforcing laws that have been on the books for decades.

And I want to repeat it, because you can't explain it. Trump won 12 of 14 Texas border counties in the last election. It's a curious form of racism that dominates on the border. Maybe you can explain it.

So, as an example, Trump is removing protected status for a lot of Central American, South American and Caribbean populations.  At the same time he is granting status to white (and only white) South Africans.  All of this is perfectly legal under the authority of the president.  Are you telling me with a straight face that this couldn't possibly be racist in its intent?  I'm not even saying it necessarily is racist, but you have to see how it's possible to have immigration actions that are both legal and racist at the same time.

13 minutes ago, fuggled said:

So, as an example, Trump is removing protected status for a lot of Central American, South American and Caribbean populations.  At the same time he is granting status to white (and only white) South Africans.  All of this is perfectly legal under the authority of the president.  Are you telling me with a straight face that this couldn't possibly be racist in its intent?  I'm not even saying it necessarily is racist, but you have to see how it's possible to have immigration actions that are both legal and racist at the same time.

Ah fuck it, let's just go straight simple Jack.

Sec. 31.03. THEFT. (a) A person commits an offense if he unlawfully appropriates property with intent to deprive the owner of property.

A racially neutral statute.

Can this be enforced in a racist manner?  Or conversely, because this is a facially neutral statute, is any enforcement of it racially neutral?

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4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The administration is racist and the administration is driving this unprecedented and unprincipled roundup that is theater for a hideously racist bunch that support it.

What? It's not perfectly normal to react to a halftime Super Bowl announcement, of an (latino) American performer, with threats of sending ICE to the Super Bowl?

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3 minutes ago, pacman said:

What? It's not perfectly normal to react to a halftime Super Bowl announcement, of an (latino) American performer, with threats of sending ICE to the Super Bowl?

I mean, it's not like the president has a great history with Puerto Rico, it's not a shock his administration is treating them like literal second class citizens

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19 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

I am looking forward to the serial negrep I will soon be getting from @PenelopeWitherspoon LOL. For the uninformed audience, the drunken fat lady has given out more than twice the negrep on this site than any other poster. She is an angry feminist monster.

 

And yet she out earns your sorry ass and lives a bad ass life. Seems to be working out pretty well for her. It’s embarrassing for you that you’re so envious of her.

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https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/10/04/federal-agents-shoot-woman-they-say-boxed-in-authorities-in-brighton-park

A woman was assaulted by ICE vehicles and boxed in and SHOT and left to die. ICE claims she drove herself to the hospital, Chicago FD said they had to rescue her and take her to the ER for her gunshot wound.

The woman had been maintaining a list of ICE agents and their activities, and they tried to fucking assassinate her for it.

13 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Ok, and I am the one making shit up?  

About 39 million Mexicans decamped to the US?  When was this?  

I don't need evidence that the "average American LEO is racist."  The administration is racist and the administration is driving this unprecedented and unprincipled roundup that is theater for a hideously racist bunch that support it.

Please stop quoting this stupid fuck

5 hours ago, royiv said:

And yet she out earns your sorry ass and lives a bad ass life. Seems to be working out pretty well for her. It’s embarrassing for you that you’re so envious of her.

Put this lying sack of shit on ignore

7 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Please stop quoting this stupid fuck

 

7 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Put this lying sack of shit on ignore

Harsh words. While I don't always agree with them, I wouldn't call Twice a stupid fuck or royiv a lying sack of shit.

15 hours ago, Captainant said:

https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/10/04/federal-agents-shoot-woman-they-say-boxed-in-authorities-in-brighton-park

A woman was assaulted by ICE vehicles and boxed in and SHOT and left to die. ICE claims she drove herself to the hospital, Chicago FD said they had to rescue her and take her to the ER for her gunshot wound.

The woman had been maintaining a list of ICE agents and their activities, and they tried to fucking assassinate her for it.

That is not what the article says at all
 

Tricia McLaughlin, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, said the Brighton Park shooting erupted after patrolling agents were “rammed by 10 cars” and “boxed in.” Agents then fired “defensive shots” when they discovered the woman “was armed with a semi-automatic weapon” while driving one of the cars, McLaughlin said.

Chicago police records shared with the Sun-Times show that a Border Patrol agent had called for assistance, reporting that roughly 30 agents had been “surrounded by a large crowd of people.” But police officials weren’t sent to help, the records show.

 

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7 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

That is not what the article says at all
 

Tricia McLaughlin, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, said the Brighton Park shooting erupted after patrolling agents were “rammed by 10 cars” and “boxed in.” Agents then fired “defensive shots” when they discovered the woman “was armed with a semi-automatic weapon” while driving one of the cars, McLaughlin said.

Chicago police records shared with the Sun-Times show that a Border Patrol agent had called for assistance, reporting that roughly 30 agents had been “surrounded by a large crowd of people.” But police officials weren’t sent to help, the records show.

 

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Have you not seen the video (not my recording, from the interwebs)? ICE is lying. A person live streamed the whole fucking incident. They attacked her, not sure how you can spin it any other way 

 

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Whoops, the administration caught in what appears to be a blatant lie, again.

1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Agents then fired “defensive shots” when they discovered the woman “was armed with a semi-automatic weapon”

This is bad again?  Sounds like infringement.  

Question for the lawyers:
In normal times, would this guy be legally justified in resisting or defending himself if he doubted the identity of these individuals dressed in street clothes with no identification that they’re actually LEO, especially since they refuse to produce a warrant giving them the authority to arrest him?

Personally, I'm a white, blue-eyed, middle-aged American citizen who doesn't look too different from these pricks, so I've no immediate fear of this kind of treatment. That said, we all know where these fascist take-overs go when the protected in-group shrinks over time, and I'd like to be fully informed. TIA

 

 

2 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

Legally justified will be cold comfort when you’re dead

I get that. It was just a simple request about how far our 4th Amendment rights used to extend before we allowed fascist thugs to take over the federal government.

 

in case you're confused, the preamble to this is what that nazi bitch Miller posted last night but I'm not giving him oxygen

 

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31 minutes ago, Captainant said:

fuck ICE

 

This is very sad to see.

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Totally normal reaction to an American being named halftime musician of the Super Bowl.

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Just fucking insane that any white supremacist could put on a facemask and a fake badge and go round up some messicans with their goddamn UNLABELED NISSAN. Those "officers" are gonna start catching literal return fire with how badly they're terrorizing and fucking up 

Interesting to note that none of those people outright assaulted either of the "officers."  Pretty non-violent considering what could have happened.

Interesting to note that none of those people outright assaulted either of the "officers."  Pretty non-violent considering what could have happened.

Was waiting for somebody to slash their tires while they were busy trying to wrestle that guy in the street.
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17 minutes ago, Player said:


Was waiting for somebody to slash their tires while they were busy trying to wrestle that guy in the street.

IMO you'd be better off letting the air out of their tires - no property damage that way and just being a nuisance but still slowing them down

7 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

That is not what the article says at all
 

Tricia McLaughlin, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, said the Brighton Park shooting erupted after patrolling agents were “rammed by 10 cars” and “boxed in.” Agents then fired “defensive shots” when they discovered the woman “was armed with a semi-automatic weapon” while driving one of the cars, McLaughlin said.

Chicago police records shared with the Sun-Times show that a Border Patrol agent had called for assistance, reporting that roughly 30 agents had been “surrounded by a large crowd of people.” But police officials weren’t sent to help, the records show.

 

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Don’t get too wrapped up in these stories that are forgotten in a day. We voted for removal and that’s what we’re getting. Finally. 

The USA would be far better off keeping every hard working immigrant and consigning unAmerican bootlickers like Crappy-brain back to kindergarten. He did not learn all he needed to know.

6 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

The USA would be far better off keeping every hard working immigrant and consigning unAmerican bootlickers like Crappy-brain back to kindergarten. He did not learn all he needed to know.

"We have to take care of this little gnat that's on our shoulder called Chrispyed."

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1 hour ago, Chrispyed said:

We voted for removal and that’s what we’re getting. Finally. 

I'm glad you're honest about voting to brutalize and terrorize brown people and citizens. It's a big step forward for you, you goddamn fucking fascist. 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.989081/gov.uscourts.cacd.989081.9.0.pdf

People are being DISAPPEARED for more than a month and held under guard for no fucking reason besides the color of their skin. It's completely fucked and anyone cheering for this sort of treatment is a goddamn fascist goon

On 10/3/2025 at 4:15 PM, Thetexashammer said:

 

I am looking forward to the serial negrep I will soon be getting from @PenelopeWitherspoon LOL. For the uninformed audience, the drunken fat lady has given out more than twice the negrep on this site than any other poster. She is an angry feminist monster.

 

I've met her before. She's pretty cool and lives a really good life because, and this is important, she believes in helping others.

We have a 4-page thread, containing 165 posts and counting, discussing the attempted murder of an elderly man by some famous drunken douchbag.

Now, imagine we were to learn that an agent of the State murdered a US citizen while doing horrible shit to other brown people, and the State lied to the public about what happened. My goodness! One would think there’d be at least 10 pages of Surlyites discussing it.

Is this now so normalized that a message board full of ostensibly college-educated adults doesn’t give a shit?

Or is that out-of-sight, out-of-mind is the go-to coping mechanism for the dickweeds who are too ashamed to man up to what they wrought?

On 10/5/2025 at 10:12 AM, Captainant said:

Have you not seen the video (not my recording, from the interwebs)? ICE is lying. A person live streamed the whole fucking incident. They attacked her, not sure how you can spin it any other way 

 

 

I had not. I simply Quoted the article you linked. Nothing more. 
 

The same article lists two separate ramming incidents. Do we know which one this was?

 

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"The video does not depict the same incident involving Marimar Martinez as described in the complaint filed. The complaint describes Martinez was driving a silver Nissan Rogue, during the event where she was shot.

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1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

I simply Quoted the article you linked. Nothing more. 

No you didn't, you called me a clown and implied that I'm overreacting to something that isn't happening. 

You're picking nits to attack me personally instead of engaging with the reality of the slow motion Kristallnacht that you voted for.

1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

The same article lists two separate ramming incidents. Do we know which one this was?

And the fact that there's multiple incidents of ICE ramming people for the crime of being brown should in and of itself be a fucking concern

Chicken Sandwich

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Whose a good little propagandist for fascist daddy? 

There's literally no propaganda or AI generated bullshit that chickensandwich won't immediately believe. It's fascinating.

15 minutes ago, Captainant said:

No you didn't, you called me a clown and implied that I'm overreacting to something that isn't happening. 

You're picking nits to attack me personally instead of engaging with the reality of the slow motion Kristallnacht that you voted for.

And the fact that there's multiple incidents of ICE ramming people for the crime of being brown should in and of itself be a fucking concern

I called you a clown because what you posted was completely contradicted in the article you linked.  You claimed SHE was rammed and shot, the article claimed the opposite.  

People blocking in and ramming law enforcement vehicles is a serious escalation.  The fact it happened twice in one day is even more concerning, as is the police being told to stand down.

12 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

There's literally no propaganda or AI generated bullshit that chickensandwich won't immediately believe. It's fascinating.

read the article HE posted Aggy and then his comment..I simply quoted the article HE posted

So did he post AI generated bullshit or propaganda?

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16 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

People blocking in and ramming law enforcement vehicles is a serious escalation.  The fact it happened twice in one day is even more concerning, as is the police being told to stand down.

Except... That didn't fucking happen. The only people claiming it happened is ICE and their bootlickers. There's no evidence of it happening, and what we can see and find is ICE officers ramming people for the crime of being nonwhite.

So the article you posted was propaganda?  Why post it?

 

And the ramming video you claim as evidence has a different vehicle than the one the person who was shot was driving - allegedly 

My fault for reading the article you posted instead of just taking your word for it.

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