November 21Nov 21 On 11/18/2025 at 5:39 PM, Celery Man said: She said that Jesus says we should be kind and added that he also says we should love our neighbors. Is Jesus one of the instructors at the Spanish immersion daycare?
November 26Nov 26 The executive branch defies the federal court yet again. Quote The Justice Department said Tuesday that Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was the Trump administration official behind the decision not to comply with a federal judge’s order to halt the deportation of alleged Venezuelan gang members to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/kristi-noem-deportation-flights-judge-ordered-planes-turn-back-aea-rcna245987
November 26Nov 26 The executive branch defies the federal court yet again. The Justice Department said Tuesday that Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was the Trump administration official behind the decision not to comply with a federal judge’s order to halt the deportation of alleged Venezuelan gang members to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/kristi-noem-deportation-flights-judge-ordered-planes-turn-back-aea-rcna245987Put that vile cunt in jail for contempt.
November 26Nov 26 49 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/kristi-noem-deportation-flights-judge-ordered-planes-turn-back-aea-rcna245987 Put that vile cunt in jail for contempt. She is really close to the top of the list of people that need to be vanished. Probably number 3 behind dotard and Miller. Edited November 26Nov 26 by Biff Tannen
December 1Dec 1 She's from Austin. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/30/us/politics/college-student-deported-thanksgiving-texas.html A 19-year-old college student was about to board a flight to surprise her family for Thanksgiving when she was detained at Boston Logan International Airport and deported to Honduras two days later, her father and lawyer said on Sunday. The student, Any Lucia López Belloza, was brought by her parents from Honduras to the United States when she was 7. Her father, Francis López, said in a telephone interview on Sunday that neither Ms. López nor her mother knew there was an order for her deportation. “When they arrested Any, that’s when they told her,” said Mr. López, a tailor. He said his employer had arranged and paid for his daughter’s travel to Austin, Texas, to surprise him at work. Ms. López’s lawyer, Todd Pomerleau, described an opaque process for obtaining information about her case, including the grounds for her deportation. He said she had been deported in violation of a court order that a federal judge signed on Friday that said Ms. López could not be removed from the United States while her case was pending. Ms. López, a freshman studying business at Babson College in Wellesley, Mass., was about to board a Southwest Airlines flight to Texas early on Nov. 20. She was told there was a problem with her ticket, so she went to customer service and was surrounded by immigration agents, Mr. Pomerleau said. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency told The Boston Globe that an immigration judge had ordered Ms. López deported in 2015, when she was a child. The agency did not respond to a request for comment on Sunday. Mr. Pomerleau said he checked her information in the Executive Office for Immigration Review database and could not find any record of her original deportation order. “So I’m not convinced she has a removal order, and if she did have one, she should have been notified of it, because she’s completely unaware of this situation,” he said. On Saturday, after she spent a night detained in Texas, she was put on a bus with shackles on her wrists, waist and ankles before being put on a flight to Honduras, Mr. Pomerleau said. Ms. López, who is staying with her grandparents in Honduras, asked that her father speak on her behalf, her father said. He said she had found it upsetting to recount the details of her removal, in particular being detained and shackled. He said his daughter told him she had not signed any paperwork authorizing her removal from the United States, as some people do to avoid lengthy detentions. Ms. López lived in Texas with her parents and two younger siblings, who are 2 and 5, before going to college. The family emigrated nearly 12 years ago because of the rampant crime and insecurity in San Pedro Sula, Honduras. Mr. López and his wife feared for their daughter as the news was filled every week “with deaths and murders,” he said. “That’s the reason we left.” The family had applied for asylum, he said, but it was denied, and they were never told they had to appeal to avoid a deportation order. Mr. López described his daughter as organized and studious. “She had that responsibility — of being the first to graduate from college and being an example to others,” said Mr. López, who had sewn her business suits for interviews and internships. Now, he said, his daughter was reeling being back in the country she left behind so long ago. “She’s trying to assimilate to her new reality,” he said. Ms. López told The Globe she was worried about how she would continue her education. “I have worked so hard to be able to be at Babson my first semester, that was my dream,” she said. “I’m losing everything.” A spokeswoman for Babson College did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Sunday. At the time the López family left Honduras, migration from Central America was growing as people, particularly in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, fled violence, crime and economic stagnation. In recent years, migration from Honduras surged, with thousands joining migrant caravans and camping at the U.S.-Mexico border. President Trump made stopping immigration and expelling migrants a central message of his campaigns, even more so in his push for a second term. In recent days, he again turned his attention to Honduras, endorsing a right-wing candidate in this weekend’s election and seeking to pardon a former president whom many experts blame for spurring mass migration from his country to the United States. The president in office, Xiomara Castro, has spent the end of her term trying to balance her obligation to undocumented migrants in the United States — of which there are estimated to be more than half a million — with a need to cooperate with the Trump administration, which has come down hard on leaders who do not back its agenda. By Nov. 20, nearly 30,000 Hondurans had been deported this year, about 13,000 more than in the same period last year, according to Honduran government data. Honduran officials did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the case of Ms. López. Her father said he felt it was important to share his family’s ordeal at a time when so many are facing deportation amid Mr. Trump’s immigration crackdown. “I’ve decided to speak because it’s a reality we are facing right now,” he said.
December 8Dec 8 Author This is a new one - denying citizenship to people who have already been approved because of a new Royal Edict from King Trump. Nonwhites are gonna start getting denied at a higher rate for naturalization https://people.com/immigrants-approved-for-citizenship-pulled-out-by-officials-at-oath-ceremony-11863779 Immigrants were moments away from pledging allegiance to the United States in Boston — the final step of the long process to becoming a U.S. citizen — when government officials pulled them out of line, according to a new report. The scene unfolded at Boston’s Faneuil Hall on Thursday, Dec. 4, according to the report from WGBH, a National Public Radio member station. As people who were already approved to be naturalized — having completed the lengthy U.S. citizenship process — lined up to pledge allegiance, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) officials told them they could not continue due to their countries of origin, the outlet reported. USCIS officials took individuals from the line because the federal agency has directed its employees to halt all immigration applications for nationals from the 19 countries that already faced travel restrictions since June due to a proclamation from President Donald Trump, per WGBH and NBC News. The Trump administration designated the list of largely African and Asian countries as high-risk.
December 8Dec 8 5 minutes ago, Captainant said: This is a new one - denying citizenship to people who have already been approved because of a new Royal Edict from King Trump. Nonwhites are gonna start getting denied at a higher rate for naturalization https://people.com/immigrants-approved-for-citizenship-pulled-out-by-officials-at-oath-ceremony-11863779 Immigrants were moments away from pledging allegiance to the United States in Boston — the final step of the long process to becoming a U.S. citizen — when government officials pulled them out of line, according to a new report. The scene unfolded at Boston’s Faneuil Hall on Thursday, Dec. 4, according to the report from WGBH, a National Public Radio member station. As people who were already approved to be naturalized — having completed the lengthy U.S. citizenship process — lined up to pledge allegiance, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) officials told them they could not continue due to their countries of origin, the outlet reported. USCIS officials took individuals from the line because the federal agency has directed its employees to halt all immigration applications for nationals from the 19 countries that already faced travel restrictions since June due to a proclamation from President Donald Trump, per WGBH and NBC News. The Trump administration designated the list of largely African and Asian countries as high-risk. At the oath ceremony. So. Fucked. Up.
December 12Dec 12 6 hours ago, Beau Vine said: Just remember, the creatures we are dealing with are a new life form. The inhale oxygen, they exhale lies. It is a function so foundational to their being that it is biological.
December 12Dec 12 This Abrego Garcia story just keeps getting more crazy. Can any lawyers help decipher all the Latin? BREAKING: Judge Blocks ICE From Re-Detaining Abrego Garcia Quote In a dramatic series of overnight developments, the Trump administration took extraordinary steps to try to re-detain Kilmar Abrego Garcia within hours of his court-ordered release, but a federal judge stepped in and blocked the move. U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis of Maryland issued a temporary restraining order at 7 a.m. ET today barring the Trump administration from taking Abrego Garcia back into custody after she ordered his release yesterday. Her emergency order came after ICE directed Abrego Garcia to report to its Baltimore field office at 8 a.m. ET today. Fearing that Abrego Garcia would be re-detained when he showed up at ICE offices, his lawyers filed an emergency motion overnight imploring Xinis to intervene. All of this unfolded only hours after Abrego Garcia was released from ICE custody on order from Xinis. The highly unusual series of late-breaking events was punctuated by a remarkably cynical move by a Baltimore immigration judge, an executive branch official. But first some context: The basis of Xinis’ order to release Abrego Garcia was that ICE had never issued an order of removal against him — itself an extraordinary development because his wrongful deportation in March to El Salvador and his subsequent detention since he was returned to the United States were entirely predicated on the supposed issuance of an order of removal in 2019. After Xinis ruled Thursday morning that no such order of removal existed, Philip P. Taylor, the acting regional deputy chief immigration judge in Baltimore, rushed out a new order around 7 p.m. ET that purported to fix the “scrivener’s error” in ICE’s records on Abrego Garcia and retroactively create an order of removal. Taylor’s order was comically subtitled: “Immigration Court’s Sua Sponte Order Correcting Scrivener’s Error.” Taylor’s sudden intervention is procedurally flawed in myriad ways, but that didn’t stop him from purporting to make a number of “corrections” to the record in Abrego Garcia’s 2019 case, waving it all away with a breezy: “These corrections are hereby issued nunc pro tunc to the Immigration Court’s written decision and order of October 10, 2019.” In her emergency order this morning, Judge Xinis gave all of this such an aggressively arched eyebrow that she might have pulled a muscle: The ICE Order of Supervision also states that Abrego Garcia was “ordered removed” on October 10, 2019, despite no such order having issued on that date. Instead, the ICE Order of Supervision seems to rely on an “order” issued last night from Immigration Judge Phillip Taylor. The Court does not opine on this newest “order” here. But the Court does note that this “order” was issued nunc pro tunc, effective October 10, 2019. Edited December 12Dec 12 by fuggled
December 12Dec 12 Here' where we are: The names of everyone taking a flight in the US is being provided by TSA to DHS, who uses the info to search for people with deportation orders. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/us/politics/immigration-tsa-passenger-data.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share or at https://archive.ph/rHghq Quote The Trump administration is providing the names of all travelers passing through U.S. airports to immigration officials in search of people with deportation orders, a substantial expansion of government efforts to draw on data to hunt down immigrants it wants to expel. Under the previously undisclosed program, the Transportation Security Administration provides a list multiple times a week to Immigration and Customs Enforcement of travelers who will be coming through airports. ICE can then match the list against its own database of people subject to deportation and send agents to the airport to detain those people.
December 12Dec 12 Popular Post Can they do the same search for pedophiles or 34-time convicted felons?
December 17Dec 17 On 12/16/2025 at 10:57 AM, Beau Vine said: Definitely not because they're tanking the economy. Edited December 17Dec 17 by Schulz2.0
December 17Dec 17 On 12/12/2025 at 5:48 PM, Chopper said: Here' where we are: The names of everyone taking a flight in the US is being provided by TSA to DHS, who uses the info to search for people with deportation orders. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/us/politics/immigration-tsa-passenger-data.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share or at https://archive.ph/rHghq An individual with a deportation order has had their case in front of a judge, had the facts examined, and order of removal issued. Often but not always issued in conjunction with other criminal violations beyond just unauthorized presence. TSA is part of DHS. This is far less intrusive than neighborhood sweeps and raids and is targeting people who have had due process followed and been ordered removed. I have a hard time getting upset over this use of info sharing.
December 18Dec 18 5 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said: An individual with a deportation order has had their case in front of a judge, had the facts examined, and order of removal issued. Often but not always issued in conjunction with other criminal violations beyond just unauthorized presence. TSA is part of DHS. This is far less intrusive than neighborhood sweeps and raids and is targeting people who have had due process followed and been ordered removed. I have a hard time getting upset over this use of info sharing. So since the agencies are under the same umbrella agency, that somehow waves away legit concerns with DHS interfering with domestic travel by obtaining every single person's travel plans in advance? You realize these are the same people who have worked tirelessly to keep the FBI from obtaining ATF gun ownership records from going to the FBI even though they're "part of the same agency?" Obtaining every American's travel records is somehow "less intrusive" than street patrols? I think "intrusive" is perhaps not the word you're looking for. Even so, your argument relies on false equivalence to wave away blatant civil rights violations. Whether one is more or less instrusive is however besides the point. They're both illegal and shameful and to excuse one by minimizing the other is absurd. The article asserts they're looking for people "with deportation orders," but a) offers no proof, b) if you believe they're limiting usage of the info they have, you're wishcasting, and c) they're working toward revoking citizenship of naturalized citizens so they can deport them - so this breach will only get worse and more painful. This is a massive intrusion and frankly I'm shocked you'd minimize it. Edited December 18Dec 18 by Chopper
December 18Dec 18 The ATF, FBI, and TSA can all EABOD. I the less info government agencies share with each other, the safer Americans are from blatant civil rights abuses. They've shown what colors they fly, and they aren't red white and blue.
December 18Dec 18 I think that “sanctuary” policies where immigration authorities are not informed when unauthorized immigrants are arrested for serious crimes are frankly insane on their face and anyone who wants a more humane immigration needs to admit that the backlash they caused is a big reason we are where we are. If it’s inhumane to turn over people with multiple arrests for serious crimes then who can be deported at all? Quote 23-year-old Marvin Morales-Ortez, a citizen of El Salvador, was arrested yesterday following a manhunt after a man was found shot & killed inside of a home in Reston, VA. Morales-Ortez had been in Fairfax County jail while facing charges for brandishing a gun and assaulting & inuring someone, but he was released on Tuesday when the case was dropped. ICE says their detainer to transfer him to their custody was ignored by Fairfax County. After his release on Tuesday, Fairfax County Police say that an emergency custody order was obtained for Morales-Ortez due to mental health/danger concerns. They looked for him to take him into custody, but they were unable to find him. He is accused of committing the murder just hours later.
December 18Dec 18 29 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said: I think that “sanctuary” policies where immigration authorities are not informed when unauthorized immigrants are arrested for serious crimes are frankly insane on their face and anyone who wants a more humane immigration needs to admit that the backlash they caused is a big reason we are where we are. If it’s inhumane to turn over people with multiple arrests for serious crimes then who can be deported at all? The logical explanation is that he was not facing any charges and local jails do not operate as holding facilities for federal crimes. LA County has paid out millions in lawsuits related to improperly detaining persons based on ICE holds. Often ICE makes no effort to actually get these people, even after all matters are cleared, so you've got people just sitting in county jails, on the local dime, without any indication if/when the Feds will act. Quote Lead plaintiff Duncan Roy, a noted British filmmaker, spent 89 days in Men’s Central Jail because the LASD repeatedly refused to allow him to post bail set by the court because he was subject to an erroneous ICE hold. He repeatedly made unsuccessful attempts to speak with ICE and explain that he was in the country legally and the hold was erroneous. Roy was detained in the “gay dorms,” where he was denied medical care for recent prostate and colon cancer. After nearly three months in jail, ICE lifted his immigration detainer on humanitarian grounds and LASD finally permitted his bondsman to post bail. Quote LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors today approved settlement of a class action lawsuit brought by immigrants who were unlawfully detained by the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department — sometimes for months — because of “ICE hold” requests from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The holds, also called “immigration detainers,” forced individuals to be held in county jails after they were legally entitled to be released. Pending approval by a federal judge, the settlement marks the end of the lawsuit Roy v County of Los Angeles originally filed in 2012. During the time period covered by this settlement, Los Angeles County was responsible for holding more people in its jails on ICE detainers than any other county and most other states in the nation. The sheriff’s department agreed to stop the practice entirely in July 2014. And its not just crazy libs who think this way. Sheriffs all over the country have refused to comply with ICE Holds: https://publicdefenders.us/blogs/no-mas-local-sheriffs-stop-honoring-immigration-detainers/ Quote Over the last several years, every jail in the country has become familiar with the I-247 immigration detainer request, issued by ICE. The I-247 detainer is sent to local jails, requesting that local law enforcement keep a particular inmate in custody for an additional period of time after he or she would otherwise be released so that immigration authorities can pick him or her up to be transferred to an immigration detention center.[2] Tens of thousands of people have been detained this way by local jails, for varying time periods, and at an untold fiscal expense to the local taxpayers. This “request”, however, has no legal force. Immigration detainers are not warrants or court orders. In fact, these detainers are not issued or even approved of by judges. Instead, they are unsworn documents that may be issued by a wide variety of immigration enforcement agents and deportation officers.[3] They are frequently issued without even a supervisor’s review. Therefore, these detainers often do not even represent a finding of a person’s immigration status nor do they provide any proof that the person is even deportable. Recent decisions by federal judges in Oregon, Rhode Island and the Third Circuit have concluded that immigration detainers are merely requests and do not meet the required evidentiary standards to satisfy a government initiated seizure. The decisions make two things clear: (1) I-247 immigration detainers are requests, and therefore pose no legal obligation that sheriffs must comply with, and (2) local sheriffs who decide to honor these requests, do so at his or her own peril.
December 18Dec 18 The logical response to that is “refusing to charge people for crimes and then letting them go do more” is a basic failure of governance.
December 18Dec 18 1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said: The logical response to that is “refusing to charge people for crimes and then letting them go do more” is a basic failure of governance. you're familiar enough with his first case and the facts to confidently state they had what they needed to charge him, but instead just let him go?
December 18Dec 18 I've always thought that the middle ground would just be for local law enforcement to alert ICE when they're going to be releasing a person with a detention request. That way, if they really want him, they can pickup right outside the jail.
December 18Dec 18 2 minutes ago, Foosters said: you're familiar enough with his first case and the facts to confidently state they had what they needed to charge him, but instead just let him go? I am very comfortable saying that any unauthorized immigrant who has been arrested SEVEN TIMES on felony charges in five years should have been arrested or deported long before this (second) murder arrest, yes. And that deporting people like him is a good thing, and that finding reasons not to deport people who keep getting arrested is one reason why we are where are. Like who are we kidding on this stuff? What is the net benefit for not kicking you out after, say, two arrests? Keep in mind he has no authorization to be here to begin with.
December 18Dec 18 1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said: I am very comfortable saying that any unauthorized immigrant who has been arrested SEVEN TIMES on felony charges in five years should have been arrested or deported long before this (second) murder arrest, yes. And that deporting people like him is a good thing, and that finding reasons not to deport people who keep getting arrested is one reason why we are where are. Like who are we kidding on this stuff? What is the net benefit for not kicking you out after, say, two arrests? Keep in mind he has no authorization to be here to begin with. Why the incredulity? I'm explaining to you the legal reasons why local law enforcement has issues with the idea of ICE detainers. Sounds like a failure on the part of the federal government - not the local jails.
December 18Dec 18 3 minutes ago, Foosters said: Why the incredulity? I'm explaining to you the legal reasons why local law enforcement has issues with the idea of ICE detainers. Sounds like a failure on the part of the federal government - not the local jails. He already had one murder arrest and the local authorities let him out after a weapons charge and he killed someone within a day. He had been arrested on seven felonies in five years and released each time. Yes, the local authorities failed badly.
December 18Dec 18 6 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said: He already had one murder arrest and the local authorities let him out after a weapons charge and he killed someone within a day. He had been arrested on seven felonies in five years and released each time. Yes, the local authorities failed badly. Ok, good talk.
Saturday at 02:30 PM4 days Oh look more blatant corruption of the law for political means. Military lawyer swiftly fired after defying Trump deportation push so even if following the law, our military members in a non military role can be fired. What a fucked up world this fascist regime is instituting
Monday at 03:33 AM3 days On 12/18/2025 at 5:34 PM, 956 Worldwide said: He already had one murder arrest and the local authorities let him out after a weapons charge and he killed someone within a day. He had been arrested on seven felonies in five years and released each time. Yes, the local authorities failed badly. local authorities failed badly. Did they fail accidentally that many times? Makes one think that it is intentional. This is absolutely at the heart of the problem. One side is kicking out more people than they should. One side is about letting people in and allowing to them to stay longer than they should. Which do you support? Why can’t people admit that this person should’ve been out of country looooong ago? @Foosters I’d like to hear the rationale why There’s not an inalienable right to be an immigrant and stay in the US no matter what you do as long as you make it here. Every other country on the planet would’ve kicked this asshole out.
Monday at 04:08 AM3 days Popular Post Hey, assholes, er Surly! The way to deal with crimes committed in the US is to arrest the accused, put them on trial, and, if guilty, make sure they serve any prison sentence, and then deport those not here legally. You know, the way this country always did things, until the greed fetish starved our judicial function, and now we rationalize releasing red flag types and choose to point fingers instead of voting for sane people who can fund, and deliver, basic government services.
Monday at 06:05 PM2 days 13 hours ago, Willfully Horn said: The way to deal with crimes committed in the US is to arrest the accused, put them on trial, and, if guilty, make sure they serve any prison sentence, and then deport those not here legally. This is just incorrect. According to chat... People can be deported (officially "removed") from the United States without being convicted of any crime. Deportation in the U.S. is primarily a civil process under immigration law, not a criminal punishment, so it does not require a criminal conviction. While certain criminal convictions (e.g., aggravated felonies, crimes of moral turpitude, or drug offenses) make someone deportable, many deportations occur solely on civil immigration violations. U.S. government sources and legal analyses confirm that removal proceedings are civil, not criminal, meaning fewer protections apply (e.g., no right to appointed counsel in most cases), and the government can initiate removal without any criminal history.In practice, a significant portion of removals involve non-criminal grounds, such as visa overstays or unlawful entry. Expedited removal processes can also apply to certain arrivals without a full hearing.
Monday at 06:24 PM2 days 14 hours ago, Vato Macho said: Why can’t people admit that this person should’ve been out of country looooong ago? 13 minutes ago, Vato Macho said: This is just incorrect. This country used to prosecute criminals and make them experience consequences for their crimes. Saying this is absolutely correct. But, since we have been reduced to shithole status, we don’t have the money to responsibly jail criminals. I mean, this nation could afford it, but there’s not enough political will to make that happen.
Monday at 07:22 PM2 days 57 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said: This country used to prosecute criminals and make them experience consequences for their crimes. Now they just become elected officials!
Monday at 08:11 PM2 days 1 hour ago, wildcat09 said: Oh good, GRU is quoting ChatGPT now. improvement, imo
Monday at 08:13 PM2 days 1 minute ago, Beau Vine said: improvement, imo It's good to know his division won't miss him when Ukraine drone strikes him.
Monday at 09:31 PM2 days On 12/16/2025 at 11:57 AM, Beau Vine said: republicans on board with housing as a right is not something i had on my bingo card
Tuesday at 12:14 AM2 days Tow truck drivers vs ICE: Tow truck driver acquitted after towing ICE vehicle during downtown L.A. arrest | KTLA https://share.google/auXrNLbJ22ydJnXwp
Tuesday at 01:13 AM2 days On 12/18/2025 at 5:15 PM, 956 Worldwide said: The logical response to that is “refusing to charge people for crimes and then letting them go do more” is a basic failure of governance. Well, that tweet doesn't mention the guy's immigration status. If he has no status, he can be deported on that basis alone. No criminal charges or convictions necessary. If he has some status, depending on what it is, he can only be deported upon conviction of a crime. "He's been charged for seven crimes since 2020" . . , ok, where are the convictions? Now, I suppose you could argue that already deportable immigrants should be prioritized once they've racked up a few criminal charges, but as far as I know, charges alone are not the basis for deportation. Edited Tuesday at 01:15 AM2 days by TwiceHorn
Tuesday at 01:33 AM2 days 14 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said: Well, that tweet doesn't mention the guy's immigration status. If he has no status, he can be deported on that basis alone. No criminal charges or convictions necessary. If he has some status, depending on what it is, he can only be deported upon conviction of a crime. "He's been charged for seven crimes since 2020" . . , ok, where are the convictions? Now, I suppose you could argue that already deportable immigrants should be prioritized once they've racked up a few criminal charges, but as far as I know, charges alone are not the basis for deportation. ICE generally does not put a detainer out on people with no immigration i. You will get no argument from me: all the rules were followed. Fairfax County handled this guy legally. Of course, at any point they could have legally handed him over to ICE or maybe charged him with one of the many felonies he was arrested for, or legally not let him out of jail the day after being arrested for felony weapons charges. That is how the law works, there are choices authorities get to make. Abd reasons to make all of them. Fairfax County followed the rules, ans a deportable individual tallied seven felony arrests and two dead bodies in four years. “If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?”
Tuesday at 01:51 AM2 days The real story on his prior charges, not filtered through ICE or right-wing Twitter. https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/12/19/man-charged-with-murder-for-fatal-reston-shooting/ According to online court records, Morales-Ortez had previously been charged with six different crimes, though the charges were later dropped in each case. Among other cases, he was arrested in June 2020 as a 17-year-old for the June 23, 2019 murder of Jose Lorenzo Guillen Mejia, a 24-year-old Reston resident whose body was found on the footpath behind Hunters Wood Plaza. After more than a year in jail, Morales-Ortez was ultimately released from custody and the charges against him were dropped in 2021 when “it became clear that he was ultimately not the perpetrator,” Fairfax County Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office spokesperson Laura Birnbaum says. * * * Most recently, Morales-Ortez was arrested on Sept. 14 on charges of malicious wounding and brandishing for an incident that occurred two days earlier, online court records show. The charges were dropped on Dec. 15 — the day before this week’s fatal shooting — because prosecutors had “insufficient evidence to move forward” with the case, according to Birnbaum. “The victim told police that they had moved out of the country and would not be coming to court to cooperate in proceedings, regardless of timing,” she told FFXnow. “Sadly, without the victim’s necessary testimony, we could not move forward.” U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement told WJLA that it had sought to detain Morales-Ortez prior to the incident, claiming that he’s a native of El Salvador illegally residing in the United States. A spokesperson for the sheriff’s office told FFXnow that, without a court-issued warrant, the jail had no grounds to keep him in custody, but ICE could’ve picked Morales-Ortez up upon his release.
Tuesday at 02:10 AM2 days 15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said: The real story on his prior charges, not filtered through ICE or right-wing Twitter. https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/12/19/man-charged-with-murder-for-fatal-reston-shooting/ According to online court records, Morales-Ortez had previously been charged with six different crimes, though the charges were later dropped in each case. Among other cases, he was arrested in June 2020 as a 17-year-old for the June 23, 2019 murder of Jose Lorenzo Guillen Mejia, a 24-year-old Reston resident whose body was found on the footpath behind Hunters Wood Plaza. After more than a year in jail, Morales-Ortez was ultimately released from custody and the charges against him were dropped in 2021 when “it became clear that he was ultimately not the perpetrator,” Fairfax County Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office spokesperson Laura Birnbaum says. * * * Most recently, Morales-Ortez was arrested on Sept. 14 on charges of malicious wounding and brandishing for an incident that occurred two days earlier, online court records show. The charges were dropped on Dec. 15 — the day before this week’s fatal shooting — because prosecutors had “insufficient evidence to move forward” with the case, according to Birnbaum. “The victim told police that they had moved out of the country and would not be coming to court to cooperate in proceedings, regardless of timing,” she told FFXnow. “Sadly, without the victim’s necessary testimony, we could not move forward.” U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement told WJLA that it had sought to detain Morales-Ortez prior to the incident, claiming that he’s a native of El Salvador illegally residing in the United States. A spokesperson for the sheriff’s office told FFXnow that, without a court-issued warrant, the jail had no grounds to keep him in custody, but ICE could’ve picked Morales-Ortez up upon his release. Clearly much better, and it all worked out so well. I didn’t realize they were just following policies. There should be a policy where illegals immigrants are not allowed to shoot people after being let out of jail for the seventh time. Fairfax needs to look into that. Quote “There was an informal detainer not a judicial warrant,” the sheriff’s office said. “ICE is always free to arrest an inmate on an informal detainer, which was issued on Sept. 14. ICE did not have a judicial warrant, which is required to hold the person.” In keeping with the county’s overall policies, the Sheriff’s Office, led by Stacey Kincaid, doesn’t cooperate with immigration officials except when required by law or court order
Tuesday at 02:32 AM2 days 19 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said: Clearly much better, and it all worked out so well. I didn’t realize they were just following policies. There should be a policy where illegals immigrants are not allowed to shoot people after being let out of jail for the seventh time. Fairfax needs to look into that. Immigration holds, by their very terms, are only supposed to last 48 hours. Not at all clear that this would have prevented it. Seems like he went home and shot a family member. A lot like second-guessing bail decisions. An interesting note not reported in that article, there apparently was a mental-health warrant issued for his arrest shortly after his release, but apparently last only eight hours.
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