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help settle a debate

What is the debate?

From what I understand they are still active in some areas but not enforceable. Leon Valley in SATX still uses them, Balcones Heights does too but the mailed citations are as legit as a middle school hall monitor write up.

Balcones Heights stopped sometime last year.

My understanding of the 2019 ban is that it  allowed contracts to complete so municipalities wouldn’t get sued, and the last contract in the state ran out last year sometime.

9 hours ago, F250 said:

What is the debate?

From what I understand they are still active in some areas but not enforceable. Leon Valley in SATX still uses them, Balcones Heights does too but the mailed citations are as legit as a middle school hall monitor write up.

Yeah. I received a letter either last year or maybe it was in 23 for allegedly failing to come to a complete stop making a right turn in Humble. I just ignored it because it was unenforceable. But I do wonder how many people still paid those after they no longer had to?

Tangentially related, but a lot of cities are installing Flock cameras, which are for “surveillance” (not red lights per se) - but are able to read license plates and connect that data to a database cities can use to track people‘s movements. They are facing multiple lawsuits in several states.

https://www.keranews.org/government/2025-02-07/cutting-edge-and-controversial-surveillance-cameras-installed-in-southwest-dallas

15 minutes ago, sasquatch69 said:

Tangentially related, but a lot of cities are installing Flock cameras, which are for “surveillance” (not red lights per se) - but are able to read license plates and connect that data to a database cities can use to track people‘s movements. They are facing multiple lawsuits in several states.

https://www.keranews.org/government/2025-02-07/cutting-edge-and-controversial-surveillance-cameras-installed-in-southwest-dallas

Most TxDOT traffic signal locations already have CCTV. They're just used for live video feeds but I'm sure they could be used to record and analyze.

Trust me, when Roanoke shut off the cameras on 114 it was the last day they were legal.

1 hour ago, sasquatch69 said:

Tangentially related, but a lot of cities are installing Flock cameras, which are for “surveillance” (not red lights per se) - but are able to read license plates and connect that data to a database cities can use to track people‘s movements. They are facing multiple lawsuits in several states.

https://www.keranews.org/government/2025-02-07/cutting-edge-and-controversial-surveillance-cameras-installed-in-southwest-dallas

There isn't an expectation of privacy on a city street. A cop could be on every street corner writing down license plate numbers as they drive by. I would like to know how the data is used. It wouldn't take much processing power to analyze this in real time and build a database of where a vehicle is and has been. 

Courts would be interested in understanding where the cameras are distributed across the city.

Ha, this is cute. 

If I get a chance I'll post my Waze screen while driving through NYC.  There's a camera every 100 yards.  Philly isn't quite as bad, but they are in use.  

57 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Philly isn't quite as bad, but they are in use.  

Philly was the first place I saw using plate readers. Their Parking Cops don't f around.

Just saw someone get popped on the way to work here in Denver this AM.

They also use these mobile speed cameras, but that's more like a parking ticket.

3 hours ago, sasquatch69 said:

Tangentially related, but a lot of cities are installing Flock cameras, which are for “surveillance” (not red lights per se) - but are able to read license plates and connect that data to a database cities can use to track people‘s movements. They are facing multiple lawsuits in several states.

https://www.keranews.org/government/2025-02-07/cutting-edge-and-controversial-surveillance-cameras-installed-in-southwest-dallas

We have them in our city, it’s helped catch a few buglers. 

We have them in our city, it’s helped catch a few buglers. 


What about crusty jugglers?
1 hour ago, RPM said:

Philly was the first place I saw using plate readers. Their Parking Cops don't f around.

Truth.  Nothing in this world is patrolled as strictly as Philly parking.

Leon Valley still uses.  My wife apparently rolled a yellow/red right turn and we got a citation.  We aren't planning to pay, but I read that when we go to renew registration, we might be forced to  deal with it. 

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