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#3901

Why 1 year? Why are you only "calling" for it? You can invade a sovereign country and remove their presidents, but only strongly-worded tweets to corporations. I'm sure they'll be tripping over themselves to fall in line.

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#3902
41 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Have we seen any holiday season retail sales numbers yet?

This bill was a Bernie Sanders one from the last House session. He’s just taking credit. And it’s not ever goin to happen.

#3903
Just now, The Ace of Aces said:

This bill was a Bernie Sanders one from the last House session. He’s just taking credit. And it’s not ever goin to happen.

Yea know that, not what I was asking. I am looking for how retailers did this holiday season...the time of year most of them make their nut.

#3904
5 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Yea know that, not what I was asking. I am looking for how retailers did this holiday season...the time of year most of them make their nut.

I think sales were up. Of course no one has savings.

#3905

If the credit card companies comply with this request, it will be coupled with a drop in credit limits. They might even charge a fee for being over the credit limit if you carry a balance.

And what about car, payday or personal loans? Those lenders will keep their heads down but why shouldn’t they be included in this request/order?

As to why, we’re seeing scared Trump. Most of his actions over the last year are unpopular. This isn’t good for a populist president facing a large legislation election in 11 months.

#3906
40 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

And what about car, payday or personal loans? Those lenders will keep their heads down but why shouldn’t they be included in this request/order?

Those don't exist anymore. You may have forgotten, but Trump slayed the seedy payday loan industry in his first term.

#3907
18 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

So let it be written. So let it be done. This fucking guy.

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Guarantee he will tout this as an “accomplishment” even though the rates will never change. Just like his 9 wars or whatever he claims he stopped.

#3908
2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If the credit card companies comply with this request, it will be coupled with a drop in credit limits. They might even charge a fee for being over the credit limit if you carry a balance.

And what about car, payday or personal loans? Those lenders will keep their heads down but why shouldn’t they be included in this request/order?

As to why, we’re seeing scared Trump. Most of his actions over the last year are unpopular. This isn’t good for a populist president facing a large legislation election in 11 months.

They won’t comply. He doesn’t have that authority .The end.

#3909
8 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

They won’t comply. He doesn’t have that authority .The end.

Probably unconstitutional under the Contracts Clause.

#3910
12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Probably unconstitutional under the Contracts Clause.

Unconstitutional? Since when have they give a shit about that nonsense

#3911
24 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Unconstitutional? Since when have they give a shit about that nonsense

Well, you can be reasonably sure the banks will challenge it and at least win in the trial courts.

#3912
8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, you can be reasonably sure the banks will challenge it and at least win in the trial courts.

Until his lackeys in the supreme court say he is our dear leader and can do as he pleases.

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#3914
22 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

Until his lackeys in the supreme court say he is our dear leader and can do as he pleases.

Even with all the Trump knob jobbing by SCOTUS, they generally don’t support something that is categorically not authorized under any interpretation of the constitution. They have a hell of a lot more wiggle room approving his shitty increased executive power takes than they do letting TFG unilaterally alter millions of contracts from his Kingly throne.

i’m not saying it’s impossible, but I am saying it’s very unlikely.

#3915
2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Even with all the Trump knob jobbing by SCOTUS, they generally don’t support something that is categorically not authorized under any interpretation of the constitution. They have a hell of a lot more wiggle room approving his shitty increased executive power takes than they do letting TFG unilaterally alter millions of contracts from his Kingly throne.

i’m not saying it’s impossible, but I am saying it’s very unlikely.

lol
they will do exactly what they are told.

#3916
9 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Even with all the Trump knob jobbing by SCOTUS, they generally don’t support something that is categorically not authorized under any interpretation of the constitution. They have a hell of a lot more wiggle room approving his shitty increased executive power takes than they do letting TFG unilaterally alter millions of contracts from his Kingly throne.

i’m not saying it’s impossible, but I am saying it’s very unlikely.

No, that's not their line. Their line is "don't fuck with the money and don't make our alliance with you look TOO obvious."

Capping credit card interest would be fucking with the money. They won't let him do that.

#3917
11 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

lol
they will do exactly what they are told.

I’m happy to make a friendly wager on that.

#3918
4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

No, that's not their line. Their line is "don't fuck with the money and don't make our alliance with you look TOO obvious."

Capping credit card interest would be fucking with the money. They won't let him do that.

I guess I fold “looking too obvious” into any interpretation of the constitution that even current nut job right wing legal experts might endorse.

I totally agree with you that allowing POTUS to unilaterally alter or cancel any existing commercial contracts in America is a precedent line they will not cross.

Edit: if they let TFG get away with this tariff bullshit, then I will eat crow and absolutely adopt wildcats prediction

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#3921

Also weaponizing the justice department to “investigate” Jerome Powell for not doing what dipshit wants. Powell released his hostage video.

#3923

There must be some Epstein information that is going to be bad for Trump. consider what has happened over the last couple of weeks:

  • Venezuela invasion to grab their president

  • telling the Oil execs how to do their job in Venezuela

  • Invading Minnesota with the inevitable murder of a citizen. Grabbing people off the streets all over the US.

  • telling banks to lower their cc interest rate

  • starting a criminal investigation into jerome powell

  • insinuating an attack on Iran

  • the whole greenland invasion/purchase

  • I'm sure that I'm missing something like the mortgage bonds purchase. Not too mention that Ukraine/Gaza are still out there as well. Or the vaccine or food recommendation changes by RFK.

This is the quintessential comm overload as championed by Steve Bannon. Put so much crap out there that the media, public and even Congress has no ability to fully react and understand your actual focus.

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#3924
15 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Also weaponizing the justice department to “investigate” Jerome Powell for not doing what dipshit wants. Powell released his hostage video.

It’s all fun and games until you fuck with the bank

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#3925
5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

It’s all fun and games until you fuck with the bank

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Those cost overruns, included a building that was completed 5 years ago. So they are just inventing bullshit as usual. Now about that military budget....

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#3926
26 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

It’s all fun and games until you fuck with the bank

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Murkowski can get fucked. Have the day you voted for bitch.

#3927
1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

Murkowski can get fucked. Have the day you voted for bitch.

Seriously.

"I'm very disappointed in the Gestapo's recent actions. No, not the kicking down doors, arresting people for even speaking out against the regime, and summary executions. What really has me disappointed is the Gestapo double-parking while doing so, and causing our hard-working commuters to be delayed on their way to work."

Fucking evil bitch.

#3928
1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

Murkowski can get fucked. Have the day you voted for bitch.

Disagree. In this particular instance, the enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend is a more accurate construct IMO.

Edit: she can most definitely get fucked, but a vote for the right thing is not something to turn down just because she’s a hypocritical shit stain

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#3929

I notice a fair amount of online misinformation about Powell's term. Yes he's leaving the role as the Fed Chair in May, but his term as Fed Governor is through Jan 2028. To some extent, Trump could wait out May but Trump wants him out altogether to get a friendlier governor, meaning someone Trump can control. Many online mistakenly think Powell is out regardless in May which is false.

Trump's only upcoming Fed governor replacement is Stephen Miran, who Trump just recently nominated to replace a retiring governor. Then it's 2 years until the next scheduled opening.

#3930
21 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Disagree. In this particular instance, the enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend is a more accurate construct IMO.

Edit: she can most definitely get fucked, but a vote for the right thing is not something to turn down just because she’s a hypocritical shit stain

If the fed loses it independence then the run for gold will be epic, making last year's performance look like warm up.

#3931

This is a "welcome to party pal" type of comment but I can't believe how expensive everyday restaurants and groceries have gotten. Luckily I have a decent salary and don't have to support a family but I'm shocked how much I pay at middle tier restaurants and the grocery store. I have found that fast food and surprisingly upscale restaurants don't seem to have increased at the same pace. Not that I've hit up every fast food or expensive restaurant but rather a relatively small sample size to back up my anecdotal evidence.

I've gone to the grocery store to buy the ingredients for a relatively simple meal for 2, and I feel like I'm dropping $40-50. Used to be $20. I recently bought a medium smoothie that was $17 after tip.

How in the world is a middle class family of 4+ able to live today?

#3932
5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

How in the world is a middle class family of 4+ able to live today?

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#3933

Politically speaking, it's a problem because it's not inherently a political problem. So the middle class gets cucked no matter who is in office and it's being crushed from both sides (but mostly the elite class). So when it sucks when a D is president, you get people thinking "what the heck, can't be worse and why not go for the other guy" and then when it's completely and drastically worse under the other guy, God willing we get the D back in.

But then nothing fundamentally changes for the middle class. I know that Ayn Rand was stupid and racist and it's fun to poke fun of sophomoric libertarians, but the middle class in 2026 does feel an awful lot like Atlas when it comes to being exhausted by holding up the system for both the billionaires and the poor at the expense of the recursive comfort and privilege that the middle class lifestyle used to promise and stand for.

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#3934
32 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Politically speaking, it's a problem because it's not inherently a political problem. So the middle class gets cucked no matter who is in office and it's being crushed from both sides (but mostly the elite class). So when it sucks when a D is president, you get people thinking "what the heck, can't be worse and why not go for the other guy" and then when it's completely and drastically worse under the other guy, God willing we get the D back in.

But then nothing fundamentally changes for the middle class. I know that Ayn Rand was stupid and racist and it's fun to poke fun of sophomoric libertarians, but the middle class in 2026 does feel an awful lot like Atlas when it comes to being exhausted by holding up the system for both the billionaires and the poor at the expense of the recursive comfort and privilege that the middle class lifestyle used to promise and stand for.

One problem of the middle class, especially conservative middle class, is they think they're one step away from being upper class. Then they get caught up in tax rates and policies for the wealthy or corporations. They always buy the argument that if rich people or corps get richer then it will trickle down to them. It's a trickle all right. 5 gallons of water to the CEO, a drop of water to the employees (to be split.)

#3935
1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

One problem of the middle class, especially conservative middle class, is they think they're one step away from being upper class. Then they get caught up in tax rates and policies for the wealthy or corporations. They always buy the argument that if rich people or corps get richer then it will trickle down to them. It's a trickle all right. 5 gallons of water to the CEO, a drop of water to the employees (to be split.)

Yep even the family worth 5-10 million dollars usually has no concept of the fact that mathematically they have multiple orders more in common with the family worth 5K dollars than they do with the Billionaire class. Much less the family worth say 750K.

#3937
Just now, mdmost said:

The 2026 Trump Economy: We're Screwed

He's not. His billionaire buddies aren't.

But we....most certainly are.

So, "The 2026 Trump Economy: Screw You!" is more accurate.

#3938

Translation: We would be required to return money that we never had the legal authority to collect back to the people to whom it rightfully belongs. And also, I already gave it to Argentina, after charging a service fee of less than 10%.

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#3940
2 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Translation: We would be required to return money that we never had the legal authority to collect back to the people to whom it rightfully belongs. And also, I already gave it to Argentina, after charging a service fee of less than 10%.

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#3942

lol at that closing: "reading reading reading. no big deal. nothing here. aluminum isn't important. reading reading. blah blah economy talk. WHAT? BEER WILL GO UP?"

#3943
2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There must be some Epstein information that is going to be bad for Trump. consider what has happened over the last couple of weeks:

  • Venezuela invasion to grab their president

  • telling the Oil execs how to do their job in Venezuela

  • Invading Minnesota with the inevitable murder of a citizen. Grabbing people off the streets all over the US.

  • telling banks to lower their cc interest rate

  • starting a criminal investigation into jerome powell

  • insinuating an attack on Iran

  • the whole greenland invasion/purchase

  • I'm sure that I'm missing something like the mortgage bonds purchase. Not too mention that Ukraine/Gaza are still out there as well. Or the vaccine or food recommendation changes by RFK.

This is the quintessential comm overload as championed by Steve Bannon. Put so much crap out there that the media, public and even Congress has no ability to fully react and understand your actual focus.

Well, he was on an "affordability" kick for about 30 hours.

The problem is that affordability is kind of a 30 year problem, not a 30-second sound bite.

#3944
1 minute ago, ImNotMarkinson said:

lol at that closing: "reading reading reading. no big deal. nothing here. aluminum isn't important. reading reading. blah blah economy talk. WHAT? BEER WILL GO UP?"

I worked on a patent infringement case involving a can lid design that saved something like .03 cents per lid.

The number of cans and can lids made and sold annually made that savings into a fairly astronomical sum.

#3945
19 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

One problem of the middle class, especially conservative middle class, is they think they're one step away from being upper class. Then they get caught up in tax rates and policies for the wealthy or corporations. They always buy the argument that if rich people or corps get richer then it will trickle down to them. It's a trickle all right. 5 gallons of water to the CEO, a drop of water to the employees (to be split.)

I think that USED to be the case (cue the Steinbeck or Twain quote about being temporarily embarrased millionaires) but I don't believe it's quite as you say anymore. I think most of the middle class is resentful that the pie has shrunk so much that there isn't really a great separation between the three traunches anymore. It's billionaire class and then the rest of us. Middle class people see even being a "millionaire" which a lot of people are due to 401k's plus home equity via net worth doesn't mean what they were conditioned to think being a "millionaire" was supposed to mean.

Being a millionaire today just means you might one day get to retire in middle class comfort and keep agency over your money and estate decisions and die in your own house or hospice of your choice until you either go senile or die.

There are multiple think pieces out and I don't want to "The Lost Generation" this thread, but the middle class is getting screwed at the expense of mostly the billionaires and there should be an awakening to that and that alone. Stop trying to throw in all the pork barrel initiatives with it that kill support (LGBTq stuff, poor stuff, etc.). Maybe the numbers don't back it up and the demographics don't back it up, but it feels like if the middle class would wake up and rise up, the numbers should be on our side.

#3947
1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

I worked on a patent infringement case involving a can lid design that saved something like .03 cents per lid.

The number of cans and can lids made and sold annually made that savings into a fairly astronomical sum.

You think? The little $10bn aluminum can company whose namesake for a little college in Muncie, Indiana says hi.

#3948
32 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

One problem of the middle class, especially conservative middle class, is they think they're one step away from being upper class. Then they get caught up in tax rates and policies for the wealthy or corporations. They always buy the argument that if rich people or corps get richer then it will trickle down to them. It's a trickle all right. 5 gallons of water to the CEO, a drop of water to the employees (to be split.)

A shockingly huge percent of Americans don't understand marginal tax rates. There's a lot of surgeons thinking they're paying the highest rate on every dollar of income.

#3949
2 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

You think? The little $10bn aluminum can company whose namesake for a little college in Muncie, Indiana says hi.

Had not made that connection. Ball is in Colorado now, but started in NY.

This involved Crown Cork & Seal out of Philly and a certain American brewery.

#3950
1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

A shockingly huge percent of Americans don't understand marginal tax rates. There's a lot of surgeons thinking they're paying the highest rate on every dollar of income.

Middle Class shouldn't have to pay the highest rate on ANY dollar of income, is the point. But look what happens when you start talking about taxing billionaires like in California the last couple of weeks. I think the Google guys already got their Bug out bag and are halfway out of the state with others making a lot of noise about. Oh great, the richest man in the state and founder/ceo of one of the few trillion dollar companies is gracious enough to give a one-time tax donation, which isn't nothing, but all the other billionaires are like roaches under the couch when the lights come on.

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