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Like the national forests? Go while they're still there.

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51 minutes ago, OregonHorn said:

Those who remain are mostly unemployable tweekers.

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https://www.npca.org/articles/8495-president-trump-s-proposed-budget-could-decimate-at-least-350-national-park

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Washington, DC – The National Parks Conservation Association (NPCA) has calculated the Trump administration’s proposed cuts to the National Park Service budget could result in more than a 75% reduction to the National Park System. With 433 national park units across the country, that would essentially wipe out budgets and staffing for at least 350 national park units. The administration’s recently released budget proposal calls for a cut of more than $1 billion to the National Park Service, which includes a $900 million cut to the operations of our national parks, the largest proposed cut in the Park Service’s 109-year history. A list of targeted national parks will likely not be available until the president’s full budget comes out later this month. However, based on a review of the latest reliable budget data for each unit in the Park System, achieving a $900 million cut to operations would require eliminating funding for roughly 350 park sites — from the smallest to some of the largest.

Goddamn I'm so pissed my daughter won't get to see National Parks like I've been able to.

who would buy a national park ? 

any company or anyone associated with any of that would be in for a world of pain 

Considering how many western rural red states rely on national parks to bring in tourists, I think this would backfire.  Or at least face serious resistance. Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, Montana, South Dakota especially.

So I’m sure the list will be Colorado, New Mexico, California, Oregon and Washington, mostly. 

4 hours ago, Js1 said:

Considering how many western rural red states rely on national parks to bring in tourists, I think this would backfire.  Or at least face serious resistance. Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, Montana, South Dakota especially.

So I’m sure the list will be Colorado, New Mexico, California, Oregon and Washington, mostly. 

All it takes is one ‘tweet’ declaring it a great idea and boom, they’re on board. 

5 hours ago, bluto said:

All it takes is one ‘tweet’ declaring it a great idea and boom, they’re on board. 

I would normally agree with you, but the economic numbers from national parks/forests/monuments show that they will likely face intense pressure from back home to push back on cuts.  Governors don't want higher unemployment numbers and state legislators don't want a reduction in revenue/annual visitors that they use to pad the state coffers and budget: 

Montana - $5.4 billion in tourism spending, 66k jobs
Wyoming - $4.8 billion in tourism spending,  33k jobs
Utah - $12.71 billion in tourism spending, 160k jobs
South Dakota - $5 billion in tourism spending, 59k jobs

Nationally, national parks brought in $26.4 billion in spending by visitors and 415k jobs. $55.6 billion in economic output for the United States

And again, it will somehow be "targeted" to affect Colorado, California, Oregon and Washington most of all.  

37 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I would normally agree with you, but the economic numbers from national parks/forests/monuments show that they will likely face intense pressure from back home to push back on cuts.  Governors don't want higher unemployment numbers and state legislators don't want a reduction in revenue/annual visitors that they use to pad the state coffers and budget: 

Montana - $5.4 billion in tourism spending, 66k jobs
Wyoming - $4.8 billion in tourism spending,  33k jobs
Utah - $12.71 billion in tourism spending, 160k jobs
South Dakota - $5 billion in tourism spending, 59k jobs

Nationally, national parks brought in $26.4 billion in spending by visitors and 415k jobs. $55.6 billion in economic output for the United States

And again, it will somehow be "targeted" to affect Colorado, California, Oregon and Washington most of all.  

Blah blah blah you sound like a trans woke libtard.

It's totally worth it to destroy the livelihood of tens of thousands of people for performative Project 2025 bullshit, which will be justified because someone somewhere once wrote a paper on their observations of homosexual behavior in a grizzly bear or somesuch.

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

I would normally agree with you, but the economic numbers from national parks/forests/monuments show that they will likely face intense pressure from back home to push back on cuts.  Governors don't want higher unemployment numbers and state legislators don't want a reduction in revenue/annual visitors that they use to pad the state coffers and budget: 

Montana - $5.4 billion in tourism spending, 66k jobs
Wyoming - $4.8 billion in tourism spending,  33k jobs
Utah - $12.71 billion in tourism spending, 160k jobs
South Dakota - $5 billion in tourism spending, 59k jobs

Nationally, national parks brought in $26.4 billion in spending by visitors and 415k jobs. $55.6 billion in economic output for the United States

And again, it will somehow be "targeted" to affect Colorado, California, Oregon and Washington most of all.  

Ryan Zinke is one of Montan's congressman.  Look up his track record a Secretary of the Interior during Trump's 1st term.   Dude would be perfectly happy to sell off the NPS and gut it.  

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25 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Blah blah blah you sound like a trans woke libtard.

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16 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

who would buy a national park ? 

any company or anyone associated with any of that would be in for a world of pain 

Bullshit. Private Equity buys some of the most beautiful land in the entire country, and then does one of two things: develops it for the people rich enough to buy homes/land tracts there, or they simply operate the already vastly profitable park system, increase costs to visit by 20%, and find other ways to monetize it, and make even more money. 

national parks print money. That's what private equity loves. Hell, you're talking about groups buying up tracts of farm land that doesn't make money without subsidies, and you think they'd blink at buying PROFITABLE land?

7 minutes ago, royiv said:

Bezos is going to enjoy the Tetons.

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I appreciate cheap, trashy women as much as the next guy.  Believe you me.

But FFS, if I had umpteen billion dollars, and could functionally be with any woman I'm interested in.....why in the blue fuck would you pick a shitty, overdone, plasticized hunk of junk like that?  She looks like a shitty cartoon.

Threadjack over, back to topic: we all fucking told you so.  He is going to sell off all of the assets of the United States, every element of the property and heritage that belongs to We the People, 1) to his billionaire buddies, and 2) much of the revenue will find its way into his pockets, not ours.  We've been taken over by a fucking criminal, and he's going to do all of the criminal things.  Everything that's not nailed down....and even the shit that is nailed down....he's going to loot it ALL.

"I didn't vote for this."

Yes.  You fucking.  DID.

10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I appreciate cheap, trashy women as much as the next guy.  Believe you me.

But FFS, if I had umpteen billion dollars, and could functionally be with any woman I'm interested in.....why in the blue fuck would you pick a shitty, overdone, plasticized hunk of junk like that?  She looks like a shitty cartoon.

Threadjack over, back to topic: we all fucking told you so.  He is going to sell off all of the assets of the United States, every element of the property and heritage that belongs to We the People, 1) to his billionaire buddies, and 2) much of the revenue will find its way into his pockets, not ours.  We've been taken over by a fucking criminal, and he's going to do all of the criminal things.  Everything that's not nailed down....and even the shit that is nailed down....he's going to loot it ALL.

"I didn't vote for this."

Yes.  You fucking.  DID.

Which national parks do you expect to be sold off in the next 4 years?

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

Which national parks do you expect to be sold off in the next 4 years?

Whichever ones he fucking wants.

Just now, Frank Drebin said:

Which national parks do you expect to be sold off in the next 4 years?

 

I hope none are. I hope someone in congress grows some balls and stops it. 

I expect they will try to sell as much as they can. Will it actually happen? Who knows? But even trying to sell off national forests/parks should result in figurative pitchforks and literal guillotines. 

 

2 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

But even trying to sell off national forests/parks should result in figurative pitchforks and literal guillotines. 

And this.  That it's even a conversation is fucking inexcusable and unforgiveable.

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3 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I predict none.  You predict _____?

Do you predict that it's good or bad that this is even being floated as a proposal?

Trump: "Hey, I propose we rape every woman in the United States!"

Drebin: "I bet he won't really rape anyone, so this is no big deal."

Just.  The fucking proposal.  Is so far out of fucking bounds that he should be run out of town on a rail.

 

Truly, this is what I fucking love the most about all of the apologists: "Sure, they PROPOSE doing awful and inexcusable things, but sometimes they don't follow through, so why should we worry about any of it?"  How much of a pathetic simp can you be?

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5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Do you predict that it's good or bad that this is even being floated as a proposal?

Trump: "Hey, I propose we rape every woman in the United States!"

Drebin: "I bet he won't really rape anyone, so this is no big deal."

Just.  The fucking proposal.  Is so far out of fucking bounds that he should be run out of town on a rail.

 

Truly, this is what I fucking love the most about all of the apologists: "Sure, they PROPOSE doing awful and inexcusable things, but sometimes they don't follow through, so why should we worry about any of it?"  How much of a pathetic simp can you be?

You ever think maybe you're a tad bit hysterical?

Just now, Frank Drebin said:

You ever think maybe you're a tad bit hysterical?

Do you think even proposing selling off our national parks is a good thing or not?

Is there anything this admin proposes that you won't excuse?

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1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

You ever think maybe you're a tad bit hysterical?

 

I think in aggregate, we are not being hysterical enough. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

You ever think maybe you're a tad bit hysterical?

Answer the fucking question, deacon.

22 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Which national parks do you expect to be sold off in the next 4 years?

Aren't you the one with a house in Montana who likes to ski?  You want to see the national forests and BLM land sold off and developed or clear cut? This isn't just about national parks.  Maybe he could sell off the ski resort where you ski.  How would you like that? Or the open space you use to recreate.

I suspect National forests would be first for selling logging sites piecemeal. 
 

parks, I’d guess they’ll privatize the park management via contracts to buddies, who will maximize profits and ignore actual wildlife management. 

maybe field offers from people to buy acreage here and there for their next compounds  

or maybe anyone who tries those things will taste their own blood as the garrote digs in.  But we don’t do that here so I won’t hold my breath. 

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13 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I think in aggregate, we are not being hysterical enough. 

 

 

Damn, that's a good line.

2 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

If Wyoming gets it's way, Grand Teton. 

 

https://wessiler.substack.com/p/wyoming-senators-demand-right-to

this bill failed by two votes, 16-14. So 14 Wyoming State Senators voted to sell the federal land in their state - in which tourism is their 2nd largest industry - to be mined, cut, and for public access to be removed. 

So just maybe concern over this isn't just leftists' delusion? 

8 minutes ago, Foosters said:

So just maybe concern over this isn't just leftists' delusion? 

HYSTERICAL 

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5 minutes ago, Foosters said:

this bill failed by two votes, 16-14. So 14 Wyoming State Senators voted to sell the federal land in their state - in which tourism is their 2nd largest industry - to be mined, cut, and for public access to be removed. 

So just maybe concern over this isn't just leftists' delusion? 

Plus a couple more private ski areas to be developed most likely.

I'll get a little CR here, but rather fascinating that the first national parks (Yellowstone was the very first I believe) were signed off on by a Republican president (Grant), and later promoted further by another Republican president (Teddy R) and large swaths of the Teton Range were purchased by a private capitalist (John D Rockefeller Jr) and then donated to add more conservation land to those parks (Yellowstone and Grand Teton) in Wyoming. It sorta puts the conserve in conservatism to do so and yet, here we are forgetting the roots of why capitalism eventually eats its own and conservatives and the GOP are no longer in the same tent.

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Ain't that the truth

Teddy R is rolling over in his grave.  He'd pop out and beat the shit out of the modern day Republicans if he could. 

14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Ain't that the truth

Teddy R is rolling over in his grave.  He'd pop out and beat the shit out of the modern day Republicans if he could. 

A whistle stop tour I’d make time for. 

On 5/5/2025 at 11:22 PM, tx 3 putt said:

who would buy a national park ? 

any company or anyone associated with any of that would be in for a world of pain 

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If I searched for Johnny’s posts from early March 2020 do you think I’d find him talking about mentally ill people in hysterics over a manufactured crisis?

22 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

A whistle stop tour I’d make time for. 

Walk softly and carry a big stick to beat the shit out of people trying to ruin America's natural beauty*

 

*applies to Republicans, litter bugs, idiots who start forest fires and people who don't pick up their dog's shit on trails

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

or maybe anyone who tries those things will taste their own blood as the garrote digs in.  But we don’t do that here so I won’t hold my breath. 

First time for everything

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Don’t think a state can sell federal land, nor can it prevent federal sale of federal land, can it?

Wyoming has some weird carve outs.  They are the only state where the Antiquities Act cannot be used by a President.  Not sure what else.

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Didn't realize who I was responding to. You clearly know that.

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I was delighted to learn of the wisdom of the Santa Fe railroad people in deciding not to build their hotel on the brink of the canyon. I hope you will not have a building of any kind, not a summer cottage, a hotel, or anything else to mar the wonderful grandeur, the sublimity, the loneliness and beauty of the canyon. Leave it as it is. Man cannot improve on it; not a bit. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it. What you can do is to keep it for your children and your children's children and for all who come after you, as one of the great sights which every American, if he can travel at all, should see.

Teddy on the Grand Canyon in Flagstaff, Arizona May 6, 1903.

2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Don’t think a state can sell federal land, nor can it prevent federal sale of federal land, can it?

We should sell College Station.....as a trial run

3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I appreciate cheap, trashy women as much as the next guy.  Believe you me.

But FFS, if I had umpteen billion dollars, and could functionally be with any woman I'm interested in.....why in the blue fuck would you pick a shitty, overdone, plasticized hunk of junk like that?  She looks like a shitty cartoon.

Threadjack over, back to topic: we all fucking told you so.  He is going to sell off all of the assets of the United States, every element of the property and heritage that belongs to We the People, 1) to his billionaire buddies, and 2) much of the revenue will find its way into his pockets, not ours.  We've been taken over by a fucking criminal, and he's going to do all of the criminal things.  Everything that's not nailed down....and even the shit that is nailed down....he's going to loot it ALL.

"I didn't vote for this."

Yes.  You fucking.  DID.

 

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9 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

We should sell College Station.....as a trial run

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10 hours ago, royiv said:

Answer the fucking question, deacon.

Just checked back into my hotel room in Alpine after a day in Big Bend, and of course, Johnny’s too much of a chicken shit to even state whether or not selling off our nation’s natural treasures is a good or bad thing. 

Imagine being so pussy whipped by the retard-in-chief that you’re too scared to voice an opinion on such an obvious fucking wrong.

35 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Just checked back into my hotel room in Alpine after a day in Big Bend, and of course, Johnny’s too much of a chicken shit to even state whether or not selling off our nation’s natural treasures is a good or bad thing. 

Imagine being so pussy whipped by the retard-in-chief that you’re too scared to voice an opinion on such an obvious fucking wrong.

Were you scoping out parts of the park to buy?

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7 minutes ago, royiv said:

Were you scoping out parts of the park to buy?

No, scoping out smuggling routes. It turns out you can just waltz across the dry bed in the midst of a 3-year drought.20250507_170645.thumb.jpg.cb6ab476e94e38874ea6bee36f559852.jpg

18 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I think in aggregate, we are not being hysterical enough. 

 

 

Remember ole Frank enthusiastically voted for this. Fuck that cunt.

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