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Haliburton us pretty damn good for being so overrated.

Sheppard has given them really good minutes. 0 points, but is doing lots of the small stuff.

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The Pacers are not pushovers. Let's see what the injury situation is. I could see it either way in 6 or 7.

1 minute ago, Fastbreak said:

The Pacers are not pushovers. Let's see what the injury situation is. I could see it either way in 6 or 7.

That lineup the Pacers run with Pascal at the 5.....

Kenrich Williams guards him.  The rest of the OKC lineup are wings.

Good luck.

SGA may average 37 in the series but I agree the Pacers are a live dog. They can score, have a great coach, and can throw a lot of weird lineups at you. 

1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Yes but OKC's defense is next level.  

True and OKC is certainly the favorite. 

But the Pacers frenetic, um, pace is so different from the way other teams typically play that there is some wide variance in outcome.

 

Unless something strange happens, the Knicks will have no choice but to run it back next season.

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Karl-Anthony Towns 29 $49,205,800 $53,142,264 $57,078,728 $61,015,192     $159,426,792
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7 minutes ago, MrX said:

SGA may average 37 in the series but I agree the Pacers are a live dog. They can score, have a great coach, and can throw a lot of weird lineups at you. 

Literally whatever lineup they can throw out, OKC can counter.  Big, small, whatever.

There will be a game they will get light up from 3 and over the course of the series, OKC will just wear them down.  Literally Caruso can guard Pascal.

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Would the Nets take KAT for Claxton and Cam Johnson? It would give the Nets a "star" and give the Knicks some freedom and 2 rotation guys.

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Glad that ain’t our problem for the next 3 years at 60,000,000 per
4 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

 

 


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Glad that ain’t our problem for the next 3 years at 60,000,000 per

 

Check back with how they feel when he starts missing a third of the season.  He played 72 games this year and that's the most since 2019.

12 hours ago, Message Board User said:

Another game where Indiana shoots about 50% from 3.

Amazing how effective that is.

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The knicks dumping Toppin for 2 second round picks doesn't look that great in retro.

Just a reminder Haliburton could be still shooting at the gym 10 days later and trying to replicate the game tying 1 from game 1 and still wouldn’t be able to do it

Meh, the Knicks are obviously better with KAT this year than they were with Randle last year, and the East is going to be wide open next year with Giannis likely heading west, Tatum out, and Cleveland still needing to prove that they can take the step from fun young team to playoff performers. 

Also, it wouldn't be a complete NBA season without a teammate publicly or privately bitching about KAT's softness, laziness, or god awful basketball IQ.

Meh, the Knicks are obviously better with KAT this year than they were with Randle last year, and the East is going to be wide open next year with Giannis likely heading west, Tatum out, and Cleveland still needing to prove that they can take the step from fun young team to playoff performers. 
Also, it wouldn't be a complete NBA season without a teammate publicly or privately bitching about KAT's softness, laziness, or god awful basketball IQ.

We’ll never know. Knicks were decimated with injuries last year. Having your two stars be liabilities on the defensive end is a problem. That they’re so good at scoring makes it difficult to fix.
9 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Check back with how they feel when he starts missing a third of the season.  He played 72 games this year and that's the most since 2019.

Says the guy with Chet on his team.

8 minutes ago, Derka said:

 

Something I hadn't thought about re: Inside the NBA's transition to ESPN was the following - will ESPN have the Inside the NBA guys on post-game?  A myriad of entanglements there...

 

Pretending that Inside the NBA is a shell of its former self is delusional. People only tune in these days to see if Chuck makes fun of any San Antonio cholas.

Saying that, ESPN is 100% going to finally make it completely unwatchable.

the difference for me re: Pacers is coaching and offensive philosophy. Not only do they push the ball, but they push in transition and even if numbers are equal they start the "halfcourt offense" immediately. Like 5 secs in the possession. I love watching them play honestly, much more than any other team in the entire playoffs (that doesn't have a Joker)

good summary

 

I think it's a really interesting finals from a strategy/tactical standpoint. I give the Pacers a puncher's change against OKC. I felt the same way about them last year against Boston, at least until Haliburton got hurt. They also have this team of destiny thing going for them that you can't overlook.

OKC hasn't really shot it consistently well from three and they aren't a particularly great rebounding team either. I can see Indiana making them uncomfortable if they get it going from outside and OKC has to play from behind. The thing that makes it tough on the Pacers is how many great perimeter defenders OKC can throw at Haliburton - SGA, Caruso, Wallace, Dort, even Williams if they want to throw a bigger guy at him. Haliburton is going to have to work for everything he gets and they aren't going to be able to exploit the Thunder like they could the Knicks with Brunson and KAT. Then again, OKC is a little bit easier to defend because just about everything is SGA or Williams going one on one. Really looking forward to the Siakim / Williams matchup as well.

15 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Says the guy with Chet on his team.

Thunder went 42-8 without Chet this year. I think that's pretty good. 

48 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I think it's a really interesting finals from a strategy/tactical standpoint. I give the Pacers a puncher's change against OKC. I felt the same way about them last year against Boston, at least until Haliburton got hurt. They also have this team of destiny thing going for them that you can't overlook.

OKC hasn't really shot it consistently well from three and they aren't a particularly great rebounding team either. I can see Indiana making them uncomfortable if they get it going from outside and OKC has to play from behind. The thing that makes it tough on the Pacers is how many great perimeter defenders OKC can throw at Haliburton - SGA, Caruso, Wallace, Dort, even Williams if they want to throw a bigger guy at him. Haliburton is going to have to work for everything he gets and they aren't going to be able to exploit the Thunder like they could the Knicks with Brunson and KAT. Then again, OKC is a little bit easier to defend because just about everything is SGA or Williams going one on one. Really looking forward to the Siakim / Williams matchup as well.

This series is up for grabs. Records don't mean shit here, it's all about who shows up and sets the tone. But if it's OKC who takes control early, I think it'll be two blowouts, one close road win, and a series-ending, sweep-clinching blowout in Indy.

If Indy steals Game 1, I think it will go to Game 7.

2 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I think it's a really interesting finals from a strategy/tactical standpoint. I give the Pacers a puncher's change against OKC. I felt the same way about them last year against Boston, at least until Haliburton got hurt. They also have this team of destiny thing going for them that you can't overlook.

OKC hasn't really shot it consistently well from three and they aren't a particularly great rebounding team either. I can see Indiana making them uncomfortable if they get it going from outside and OKC has to play from behind. The thing that makes it tough on the Pacers is how many great perimeter defenders OKC can throw at Haliburton - SGA, Caruso, Wallace, Dort, even Williams if they want to throw a bigger guy at him. Haliburton is going to have to work for everything he gets and they aren't going to be able to exploit the Thunder like they could the Knicks with Brunson and KAT. Then again, OKC is a little bit easier to defend because just about everything is SGA or Williams going one on one. Really looking forward to the Siakim / Williams matchup as well.

That's accurate.  OKC is a good (not great) shooting team and they can go cold for long stretches and when they go cold, they all go cold for some reason.

The problem for Indiana is the "other guys."  Not sure on their depth but at some point, Cason, Caruso, and Jalen Williams will be out there against their second unit and defensively, they can eat them alive.  That's all while keeping Dort on Halliburton and no one playing heavy minutes.  They also have multiple guys to throw at Siakam.  Not sure how the Pacers match up against OKC's bigs, though.  

Article: Tracing the Thunder’s rise back to a 2007 trade Sam Presti made with Steve Kerr

"In the summer of 2007, Steve Kerr was the recently elevated general manager of the Phoenix Suns. In his first month, he was given a mandate from owner Robert Sarver: Shed enough salary to escape the luxury tax.

“We were, like, exactly eight million over the tax,” Kerr recalled recently to The Athletic. “Just trading Kurt Thomas got us under the tax. And there was only one team, literally one team in the entire league, that could absorb his salary into a slot.”

“Sam knew exactly what he was doing,” Kerr said. “I knew how smart he was and how well-prepared for the job he was just from being with (Gregg Popovich) and R.C. (Buford) and learning the ropes from them. I was a young GM. I’m put in this position that I have to make this deal. Business is business. We ended up giving up two unprotected firsts.”

Kerr traded Phoenix’s 2008 and 2010 first-round picks along with Thomas’ contract. The Suns finished that next season 55-27, delivering Presti and the Thunder not a premium asset, but a valuable tool if utilized correctly.

Presti used the 24th pick on Serge Ibaka, a young power forward flashing some upside in Europe.

After Ibaka’s seventh season, on draft night of 2016, Presti sent him to the Magic for Victor Oladipo and the 11th pick. He’d immediately use that draft pick on Domantas Sabonis, bringing in a young starting shooting guard and what appeared to be Ibaka’s long-term replacement at power forward.

Presti pulled the trigger on a trade the following summer (2017) for Paul George, the replacement co-star next to Westbrook. To acquire George, he sent Oladipo and Sabonis to the Indiana Pacers, the exact package he received for Ibaka.

Presti traded George to the LA Clippers for a package that included Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and a war chest of draft assets. One of those picks, the No. 12 pick in 2022, was used on Jalen Williams."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6397881/2025/06/03/steve-kerr-sam-presti-thunder-trade/?source=user_shared_article

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

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11 hrs is about my limit 1 way. 22 hrs is tough round trip. at least its all interstate sailing. 

 

I am doing Minnesota to Colorado Springs next month over a few days so thatll be a couple long days ...but at least its July and not february so should be fairly easy. zero big metros outside of Denver. 

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What does a flight between Indianapolis and Oklahoma City cost? Like $25?

22 hours ago, aggie08 said:

What does a flight between Indianapolis and Oklahoma City cost? Like $25?

Two stops and $699 for a middle seat 

People in the middle US are insane. I had a British boss overseas that asked how long it would take to drive from my hometown (OKC) to a co-workers (Houston). I said it would only take about 7 hours. He said....'Bloody hell....that's London to Edinburgh....one end of the UK to the other." CSB 

6 hours ago, Sweetnsourpoke said:

People in the middle US are insane. I had a British boss overseas that asked how long it would take to drive from my hometown (OKC) to a co-workers (Houston). I said it would only take about 7 hours. He said....'Bloody hell....that's London to Edinburgh....one end of the UK to the other." CSB 

barring traffic...90 min flight, 2 hrs early to airport, roughly an hour spent at the next airport dealing with bags, car rental/car retrieve...really only save yourself 2-3 hrs, but also hundreds of dollars on flight tickets if youre buying for family of 4 or whatever. 

Car rental?  Motherfucker, this is Surly! It’s Limousine or gtfo! 

1 hour ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

barring traffic...90 min flight, 2 hrs early to airport, roughly an hour spent at the next airport dealing with bags, car rental/car retrieve...really only save yourself 2-3 hrs, but also hundreds of dollars on flight tickets if youre buying for family of 4 or whatever. 

Who checks bags for domestic travel? Stop packing like a woman

Also airline travel is much safer than driving 

It won’t happen but here’s hoping OKC trips over their dicks and Indiana steals the NBA title. I hate the Thunder.

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Also airline travel is much safer than driving 

Under this Administration? - Don’t care cr. 

All this hate for the thunder is unwarranted. They aren't OU. 

All this hate for the thunder is unwarranted. They aren't OU. 

Their star foul baits into free throws thus you need to play honest giving him space…meanwhile they play football on defense to force turnovers

Fuck em. They play like dishonest shitheads

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