August 31, 20187 yr Let's grab Mary's, um, land! https://cfb.stakked.io Nicely done website tracking team conquests after each week for the last 10+ seasons. You can even change the plotting variable from imperialism to top 25, etc. and restrict teams to only P5 or particular conference. 2018 is not up yet.
September 17, 20187 yr Author We didn't gain any land from the landless Trojans. We still have some tornado alley region taken from Tulsa. On the other hand, our home was taken away from Maryland and our new owners are Owls. Better than Turtles, I guess.
September 17, 20187 yr Transitive property is so weird. Texas lost to Maryland, who lost to Temple, who lost to Villanova, who lost to something called Towson. Is Towson on the map?
September 18, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, bluto said: how the hell does alaska get conquered? They go by the closest FBS school. So getting the Huskies land also nets you Alaska.
September 18, 20187 yr 9 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said: Transitive property is so weird. Texas lost to Maryland, who lost to Temple, who lost to Villanova, who lost to something called Towson. Is Towson on the map? Temple started the season losing its section of philly to nova. Nova then lost all of philly and southern jersey to Towson, who still controls it.
September 18, 20187 yr South Alabama has more territory than Alabama and is in a nicer part of the state.
September 18, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, bluto said: how the hell does alaska get conquered? Alaska is never "conquered"..!
September 18, 20187 yr 9 hours ago, bamachine said: They go by the closest FBS school. So getting the Huskies land also nets you Alaska. I was about to write a request to CDC to start playing Anchorage State instead of a P5 opponent for the opening game.
September 18, 20187 yr 8 minutes ago, kibbles said: damn, I figured we took over socal. SC scored 3 points the week before in a loss, they have no land.
September 18, 20187 yr Wonder what the map would look like if Week 2 and Week 3 were swapped. And that is what is f'd up about it. Timing has such a big impact on things. You get penalized for early losses in a big way.
September 18, 20187 yr Didn't want to start a thread for this, but I'm pretty sure none of these teams have any land. Check out #8. http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom091818/bottom-10-florida-state-big-ten-heading-wrong-direction
September 18, 20187 yr I'm not understanding the point of this. Once all your future opponents have at least 1 loss, you have no ability to be imperial anymore. You go back to our 2009 season and we picked up more of Texas, then some stuff in the midwest and eastern Louisiana early in the season and that was the end of it, no further chance to expand even as you continue to win. Fuck that.
September 18, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, NameAlreadyInUse said: I'm not understanding the point of this. Once all your future opponents have at least 1 loss, you have no ability to be imperial anymore. You go back to our 2009 season and we picked up more of Texas, then some stuff in the midwest and eastern Louisiana early in the season and that was the end of it, no further chance to expand even as you continue to win. Fuck that. that is incorrect.
September 18, 20187 yr Oddly, enough, if Tulsa beats Temple this Thursday, Austin will be in Tulsa territory..
September 18, 20187 yr 9 minutes ago, Katfid54 said: that is incorrect. I was hoping to see whole regions of the country start changing colors from week to week and it wasn't happening. I had a disappoint. Then the website crashed on week 9 of the 2009 season and I came here to bitch about it not being as cool as I wanted it to be. But ok, yeah, you could gain some territory if you beat a team that has been undefeated since they beat an undefeated opponent, but 6 weeks into a season, the chances that you are going to play either an undefeated team or a team that has just beaten an undefeated team are pretty low because there just aren't very many of those left anymore.
September 18, 20187 yr 4 hours ago, kibbles said: damn, I figured we took over socal. Give it a week to pop up on the map, south central Los Angeles is full of tough hombre's...
September 18, 20187 yr I know this doesn't directly tie in, but here is a map of the XII recruiting areas:
September 18, 20187 yr 17 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said: I was hoping to see whole regions of the country start changing colors from week to week and it wasn't happening. I had a disappoint. Then the website crashed on week 9 of the 2009 season and I came here to bitch about it not being as cool as I wanted it to be. But ok, yeah, you could gain some territory if you beat a team that has been undefeated since they beat an undefeated opponent, but 6 weeks into a season, the chances that you are going to play either an undefeated team or a team that has just beaten an undefeated team are pretty low because there just aren't very many of those left anymore. pretty sure that happened to us at the end of last year with either WVU or maybe Mizzou.
September 18, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, kopp0e said: I know this doesn't directly tie in, but here is a map of the XII recruiting areas:
September 18, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said: I was hoping to see whole regions of the country start changing colors from week to week and it wasn't happening. I had a disappoint. Then the website crashed on week 9 of the 2009 season and I came here to bitch about it not being as cool as I wanted it to be. But ok, yeah, you could gain some territory if you beat a team that has been undefeated since they beat an undefeated opponent, but 6 weeks into a season, the chances that you are going to play either an undefeated team or a team that has just beaten an undefeated team are pretty low because there just aren't very many of those left anymore. The concept is fun, but it does disappoint. You start and end with large swaths of land controlled by nobodies, and little chance to take land once it moves to another conference. There's also a clear distinction in tract size on either side of the Mississippi. So it doesn't balance visually
September 18, 20187 yr 7 minutes ago, kopp0e said: I know this doesn't directly tie in, but here is a map of the XII recruiting areas: This shitty looking map makes me want to vomit. Just FYI.
September 18, 20187 yr 8 minutes ago, Katfid54 said: This shitty looking map makes me want to vomit. Just FYI. Any thread with a map is like a bat signal for koppeee, and he comes toting his own garbage.
September 18, 20187 yr 6 hours ago, Vertigo said: I was about to write a request to CDC to start playing Anchorage State instead of a P5 opponent for the opening game. You want to see OU owning Alaska?
September 18, 20187 yr 16 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said: Any thread with a map is like a bat signal for koppeee, and he comes toting his own garbage. Famous brands from each state-
September 18, 20187 yr 46 minutes ago, Katfid54 said: This shitty looking map makes me want to vomit. Just FYI. I didn't make the map... 37 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said: Any thread with a map is like a bat signal for koppeee, and he comes toting his own garbage. Here is the site it originated: landgrantgauntlet.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Where-2017-Big-12-Recruits-Came-From.jpg
September 18, 20187 yr 44 minutes ago, JimmyHoffa said: Famous brands from each state- Did Belgium somehow conquer Missouri and I missed it?
September 18, 20187 yr 48 minutes ago, JimmyHoffa said: Famous brands from each state- I am familiar with all the brands listed except for Wyoming & Montana, then again, maybe it's a regional taco chain/ local bakery in the 2 states...
September 18, 20187 yr Football map- Mike L. and P.J. aren't doing too bad for themselves. Brand map- Starbucks, Nike, and Apple on the west coast- pretty good chunk of change right there...
September 18, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said: Football map- Mike L. and P.J. aren't doing too bad for themselves. Brand map- Starbucks, Nike, and Apple on the west coast- pretty good chunk of change right there... Fuck that. Give me the holy trinity of Dr. Pepper, Allsup's burritos, and Sonic, and I'm fucking set.
September 18, 20187 yr 38 minutes ago, tokamak said: Did Belgium somehow conquer Missouri and I missed it? Sorry just grabbed the first random map that popped up on image search. I figured that was what this thread was for!
September 18, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, JimmyHoffa said: Sorry just grabbed the first random map that popped up on image search. I figured that was what this thread was for! FUN
September 19, 20187 yr Author 5 hours ago, NameAlreadyInUse said: I was hoping to see whole regions of the country start changing colors from week to week and it wasn't happening. I had a disappoint. Then the website crashed on week 9 of the 2009 season and I came here to bitch about it not being as cool as I wanted it to be. But ok, yeah, you could gain some territory if you beat a team that has been undefeated since they beat an undefeated opponent, but 6 weeks into a season, the chances that you are going to play either an undefeated team or a team that has just beaten an undefeated team are pretty low because there just aren't very many of those left anymore. The website I linked in OP is not active. The guy who started it last year on Reddit has moved to SBNation and is posting weekly updates there and on Reddit. Yes, it is hard to scheme to grab land, because most of it is out of your control, from the size of it to whether your opponent has any of it when you play them. TCU lost to tOSU and has no land for us to gain, but they can get ours. The only thing I can think of for maximizing land is to be the first tough team your opponent plays. Let's see our schedule with this in mind. 1. Maryland: Hmm, let's move on. 2. Tulsa: We were their first tough opponent. We got their land. 3. USC: Stanford was there earlier to take it away 4. TCU: tOSU took it away 5. KSU: MSU took it away and if they beat WVU (very unlikely), then we'll have the opportunity to take it from them. So, not much of a chance 6. OU: They will come in undefeated and we'll have a chance to add to our tornado alley, and Hawaii! (from Army from Hawaii). They didn't/don't get anything from UCLA, ISU and Baylor because they lost prior to playing them. 7. Baylor: Nothing to gain 8. OSU: They could be undefeated when we meet them with TTU this weekend as their main competition. We can gain their land and Houston from TTU, but no west Texas because TTU lost to Ole Miss, which was brutally robbed by Alabama. 9. WVU is ideally setup for us in terms of imperialism, they play all winnable games till the 9th game against us, with 3 difficult ones to close the season (TCU, OSU, OU). Not much to gain besides WVU because of intra-conference fighting. 10. TTU: Not much to gain. 11. ISU: Ditto 12: KU: We go 8-0 in conference and give it all away to Kansas! So, best case scenario, some Big 12 land; worst case scenario, Rock Chalk Jayhawk. The map maker also has continuation map from last season as if 2018 is continuation of 2017 season. This is lot more biased towards long winning streaks and hence cleaner.
September 19, 20187 yr How is Duke over Colorado..? I would think that should that be over Baylor turf...
September 19, 20187 yr How is Duke over Colorado..? I would think that should that be over Baylor turf...Baylor didn’t have any land to lose last week.Duke has that part of Colorado because they beat Northwestern this year, who came into this year with that land from beating Michigan last year who took that land when they beat Air Force.
September 19, 20187 yr 16 hours ago, tokamak said: Did Belgium somehow conquer Missouri and I missed it? Anhaiser Bush (based in St. Louis) is owned by a Belgian company. And Ohio State is gonna have trouble taking big territory. We don't play Iowa or Minnesota this year.
September 19, 20187 yr 45 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said: Anyone have a link to how this is supposed To work? Year starts with a school owning the county they are in and for which they are the closest school. When you beat a team, you take all their land. Updates weekly.
September 19, 20187 yr 12 hours ago, AeroHorn said: The map maker also has continuation map from last season as if 2018 is continuation of 2017 season. This is lot more biased towards long winning streaks and hence cleaner. If it continued every year it would eventually merge with the college football title belt concept, right? And unfortunately right now Penn State holds the belt after destroying Pittsburgh for it.
September 19, 20187 yr 26 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: If it continued every year it would eventually merge with the college football title belt concept, right? And unfortunately right now Penn State holds the belt after destroying Pittsburgh for it. It would be interesting to know minimum and maximum times to convergence.
September 20, 20187 yr 20 hours ago, DanRydell said: Baylor didn’t have any land to lose last week. Duke has that part of Colorado because they beat Northwestern this year, who came into this year with that land from beating Michigan last year who took that land when they beat Air Force. Thanks, at least now I can say I am hip to how "imperialism" actually works, if I ever visit of foreign nation to the far east... On 9/18/2018 at 8:18 PM, AeroHorn said: The website I linked in OP is not active. The guy who started it last year on Reddit has moved to SBNation and is posting weekly updates there and on Reddit. Yes, it is hard to scheme to grab land, because most of it is out of your control, from the size of it to whether your opponent has any of it when you play them. TCU lost to tOSU and has no land for us to gain, but they can get ours. The only thing I can think of for maximizing land is to be the first tough team your opponent plays. Let's see our schedule with this in mind. 1. Maryland: Hmm, let's move on. 2. Tulsa: We were their first tough opponent. We got their land. 3. USC: Stanford was there earlier to take it away 4. TCU: tOSU took it away 5. KSU: MSU took it away and if they beat WVU (very unlikely), then we'll have the opportunity to take it from them. So, not much of a chance 6. OU: They will come in undefeated and we'll have a chance to add to our tornado alley, and Hawaii! (from Army from Hawaii). They didn't/don't get anything from UCLA, ISU and Baylor because they lost prior to playing them. 7. Baylor: Nothing to gain 8. OSU: They could be undefeated when we meet them with TTU this weekend as their main competition. We can gain their land and Houston from TTU, but no west Texas because TTU lost to Ole Miss, which was brutally robbed by Alabama. 9. WVU is ideally setup for us in terms of imperialism, they play all winnable games till the 9th game against us, with 3 difficult ones to close the season (TCU, OSU, OU). Not much to gain besides WVU because of intra-conference fighting. 10. TTU: Not much to gain. 11. ISU: Ditto 12: KU: We go 8-0 in conference and give it all away to Kansas! So, best case scenario, some Big 12 land; worst case scenario, Rock Chalk Jayhawk. The map maker also has continuation map from last season as if 2018 is continuation of 2017 season. This is lot more biased towards long winning streaks and hence cleaner. From the week 3 map, a person could assume the 4 teams of the CFP last year were: Alabama/ Ohio State/ Penn State/ USF...
September 20, 20187 yr 20 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said: Anyone have a link to how this is supposed To work?
September 21, 20187 yr Author On 9/19/2018 at 6:53 AM, Huckleberry said: If it continued every year it would eventually merge with the college football title belt concept, right? And unfortunately right now Penn State holds the belt after destroying Pittsburgh for it. I don't think so. For the Belt, it is possible for it to be stuck in a conference as long as the current holder loses to a conference mate before losing an OOC game, and it can only be passed through one team at a time (only one game matters each week, that too if the holder is playing). The land on the other hand is potentially being captured/lost at every game, and this makes it more "realistic" reflection of team/conference strength than the belt. Obviously, even with only one undefeated team at the end of the season, there is land held by others and belt also being passed between other teams. In the eventuality of a multiple year undefeated run where OOC chain gets linked across all conferences, there is still a chance where the undefeated team's playoff opponent snuck in by avoiding its own conference title game, like Alabama last year. Only a true knockoff tournament will coalesce the two, I think; and if that is happening, the belt is moot. There is another game on Reddit, where each team bets half of their current endowment on each game. The latest post is here. We started with $10B and promptly lost $5B in our first game. Unlike the imperialism map, this is not a bet between teams where the winner gets the loser's money, but are bets placed with a betting office. We gained 130M against Tulsa (our winning odds were high, so payout was low) and $1.6B against USC. The running score is kept in a Google spreadsheet. We have lost 34% of our endowment this year. Very bad showing.
September 21, 20187 yr I'm not following you on how it doesn't eventually converge with the title belt concept over multiple seasons. The only difference I can think of would be if when a new team enters FBS they are given the counties closest to their campus.
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