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which two players make it to the championship matchup? 19 members have voted

  1. 1. which two players make it to the final matchup?

    • michael jordan
    • lebron james
    • kobe bryant
    • kevin durant
    • steph curry
      0
    • larry bird
      0
    • Giannis Antetokounmpo
    • Other

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#3
5 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I don't see how anyone consistently beats KD in 1v1 competition.

MJ and Larry have that psycho competitive gear…but i tend to agree.

#5

Can’t fill out poll. I don’t see Cooper Flagg as an option. 

#6

I think someone like young Hakeem Olajuwon or David Robinson would be tough. Both were great defenders and had the quickness to somewhat stay with guys like Bird or Jordan. But they would murder the smaller players down low.

Wilt Chamberlain would also be a handful. Dude was so athletic. There are players I would take in a team game over Wilt, but 1:1 he would be a problem.

#8

I think it depends on matchups. If KD was matched up with Olajuwon, he probably gets beat. Hakeem would be able to defend KD, but KD would get abused by Hakeem.

If KD matched up with say Curry, he probably wins due to his length.

But if Curry was matched with Olajuwon, Curry might win because he would kill Hakeem with the 3s.

So really I guess the question is… who would win the most matchups. Because there is a bad matchup for everybody.

#10
4 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Shaq gets stopped by whom?

Hakeem

Not "stopped", but contained and outscored.

 

#11
3 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

Hakeem

Not "stopped", but contained and outscored.

 

May want to look up their h2h stats.  Shaq crushed him.  Prime Hakeem scored vs 22 year old Shaq but he couldn’t stop him either.  Hakeem jacked up shots James harden style.  Shaq won every other statistical category

 

also may want to look up Hakeem vs robinson stats

#12

To the point upthread, all of those stats are in a team game.  I'm willing to concede that Dream could stop Shaq, but I'd like to see it.

I just thought it strange that one of the toughest matchups( Shaq) in NBA history wasn't even mentioned in the thread.

 

and FTR, I like Dream way the hell more that I ever liked Shaq as a player; but was thinking about it objectively if the Big Diesel got going.  You'd have to get him at the top of the key and stop the possession itself before he got down on the block.  Hakeem's hands would be a problem for Shaq there.

Edited by Iceman

#13
Just now, Iceman said:

To the point upthread, all of those stats are in a team game.  I'm willing to concede that Dream could stop Shaq, but I'd like to see it.

 

He didn’t in a team setting and I think it’d be worse one on one

#14

Accidentally voted Giannis instead of other. I know this won't be a popular pick, but strictly in a game of 1-1 not many guys are going to stop Kyrie. 

#15
9 minutes ago, ITHorn said:

Accidentally voted Giannis instead of other. I know this won't be a popular pick, but strictly in a game of 1-1 not many guys are going to stop Kyrie. 

Heard he beat KD in practice

#16

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Not just the GIF, but AI would be formidable, as well.

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#18

zero votes for steph or larry. that’s surprising. last was my third behind mj and kd.

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#20

shaq can’t guard a bunch of guards/perimeter players over and over throughout a tournament. any savvy guard will try to run him ragged, and long shots make long rebounds. if shaq decides to just post up in the paint then you can just shoot and rebound him to death. he’s a really bad matchup for the smaller guys, but lebron or even KD could sufficiently guard him to beat him relatively easily compared to how difficult it would be for either of them to beat the other one.

#21

Prime Lebron vs Prime Jordan would be a hell of a fight, but I think Lebron would come out on top due to size advantage. 

#22

I think athletic bigs like KD and Hakeem have a decided advantage against the edge cases such as Steph and Shaq. Against Steph on offense, they will just dominate the basket and if they miss, they will be playing volleyball by themselves. On defense, they can defend the basket and make him shoot from beyond 10 feet. Can Steph shoot >70% beyond the free throw line? Against Shaq, they have the range to shoot from middle range to pull Shaq away from the basket for an occasional drive. On the other hand, Shaq, starting his possession from beyond the 3-point line (I am assuming), can he consistently back his way to the basket without occasionally turning it over since he has no shooting range? KD/Hakeem have clear advantage against both types.

MJ has athleticism, Lebron has strength and height, KD has reach and height and Hakeem has footwork and height. I chose MJ for sheer athleticism and KD for extending the range and defending the basket. 

#23

Unless you're playing 21, wtf is this free throw talk?  Did y'all ever actually play 1 on 1 to 11 or 15?  There ain't no fucking free throws. You call your foul and it's your ball up top.  

#24
On 4/21/2025 at 6:16 AM, HookEm said:

Hakeem would be able to defend KD

No one Hakeem's size has ever been able to defend KD. 

No one of any size, frankly, ever defended him well outside of some Tony Allen stretches and really good team D that wore him out like in 2016 or 2022. 

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#25

kobe famously said that kd was the one guy he never figured out, because kd never stopped evolving his game.

  • 8 months later...
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#28

wild to me that lebron has 5 votes to larry’s 0. larry >>>>>> lebron in 1 on 1. lebron is a much better full court, team player than he is a 1 on 1 player. larry would roast lebron in embarrassing fashion, and should probably be a top 3 vote getter here with mj and KD.

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#29

also, i get it that steph is too small and can’t defend, but it would be fascinating to watch as he has the deepest bag when it comes to shooting, and probably has the greatest “he’s on fire!” ability. when he’s on he ain’t missing, from anywhere. he could jump out to a big lead and really put the pressure on any of these, especially if they played by today’s weird ass 1 on 1 rules.

for those who don’t know, 1 on 1 is no longer just a straight up game between two players, scoring by 1’s and 2’s, playing to 8, 10, or 11, winning by two. now, there’s all sorts of variations of 1 on 1, and they’ve all gotten rid of things like hustle, rebounding, and defense. now whenever one guy takes a shot, that’s it. whatever happens happens. you don’t hustle for a rebound, try to get the ball back out behind the line, and keep going at it; no. once the shot is up the play is over, and if it’s a miss the defender automatically has the ball. whenever he shoots, both men will again stop playing, watch what happens with the shot, gather the rebound (or make), and start over. it is fucking asinine if you ask me, and the laziness of it all epitomizes the “streamlined” modern american player. we’ve gotten rid of all of the actual playing, and turned it into a skills competition, even during the real games.

Edited by Derka

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#30

they also will play variations such as 1 on 1 with only one dribble, or two dribbles, or even no dribbles. all of the best players in the world do this whenever they play 1 on 1. here’s a wild idea: how about you roll the ball out there and fucking compete? how about you actually work up a sweat, take it seriously, and go after the guy who’s trying to beat you? i haven’t been a coach in a decade but this shit fires me up now more than ever. i’ve watched basketball culture in this country rot, and it starts at the top and flows downhill very very fast. modern 1 on 1 is a complete joke. zero surprise that the euro guys are so much more well rounded than we are.

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#31

point being, if steph gets to do things like chase down rebounds and fire up a three before his defender can get back on him, he’s got a much better chance of winning than he does in the completely stupid modern 1v1 game. man, this conversation got me fired up! lol

Edited by Derka

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