April 23Apr 23 Before I get to the awful opinions expressed here, one of my own: King Ranch Chicken sucks and should never be made. Brisket: I have had a lot of shitty brisket and for a while did not get the hype. I know that in an era of crazy good craft BBQ its fashionable to look down at the Central Texas “meat market” stalwarts but the fact is that till about the 2010s they were the sole outposts of truly good brisket. And a good brisket is superior to almost anything but a great steak, and a great brisket stands with a great steak. This is a bad opinion. Blue Bell: Concur. They killed people and use cheap ingredients, this isn’t the product of the 1980s and 1990s. Whataburger: Shit service and consistency hurts. Everything they make tastes better than McDonalds, because everything in McDonalds tastes like McDonalds. Better options? GTFO. Chicken strips are better than any McDonalds options, objectively. Patty melts. Whataburger has bette breakfast (tacos and biscuit choices), the McMuffin is to be eaten only if there’s no biscuit. The McRib is a shit meme menu item man. Eating that shit is just something you’ve conditioned yourself to do but most cultures wouldn’t recognize it as food. McDonald’s fries and hash browns are better. Preferring chili with beans and not liking pecan desserts is completely insane. I do know a lot of little kids who don’t like pecans. Kolaches are super good. What is wrong with people?
April 23Apr 23 Congealed salads aren't a Texas thing. You can hate on them freely but they were around all over the country. They gained in popularity during the Depression as a way to stretch food and re-use leftovers.
April 23Apr 23 the kolache thing is insane unless your experience is limited to your local donut shop and Czech Stop, in which case you need to expand your horizons
April 23Apr 23 1 hour ago, MalibuSheriff said: Abomination. Everything about that place sucks balls. I stopped there once for lunch with my son when we were driving back home to Dallas.
April 23Apr 23 I don't really have a preference, but I've never had good chili that was ruined by beans. I've had shitty chili with and without beans. I like beans in general though so I don't care.
April 23Apr 23 1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said: Before I get to the awful opinions expressed here, one of my own: King Ranch Chicken sucks and should never be made. Goddamn, man. I revoke your south Texan card.
April 23Apr 23 10 hours ago, Helobious said: Brisket is horrendously overrated. Burgers, steak, chicken, are all superior forms of meat 2nd on blue bell being terrible Not sure if it’s a Texas thing or not, but chili is better with beans Pecan pie and kolaches both fucking suck. Kolaches are 90% bread and 10% filling, can’t stand them Whataburger is terrible, but it used to not be Negged for stupid.
April 23Apr 23 11 hours ago, dcbc said: Cold Lone Star beats the shit out of Miller and Bud. It's not pretending to be anything other than a cheap beer, and I'll enjoy it with BBQ anytime. And they have puzzles under the cap that get harder the longer you drink them. Lone Star above all other cheap beers and is my preferred cheap live music drink
April 23Apr 23 Popular Post To go with the good Texas food thread… what do you hate in Texas foods, traditions, joints whatever starters: congealed salads. I can tell you some horror stories from the 60’s dickeys bbq. You’ll find better in North Dakota. blue bell. Listeria factory with indifferent management. HFCS and air. Lone Star beer. Not good. Never was good. Pearl was much better. gulf oysters. Grown in sewage. Nope. I eat only cold water oysters. hot Dr Pepper. My grandmother made this in the winter. Poured a bottle in a saucepan, warmed it, pour into a coffee cup topped with a lemon slice. Like a mix of paint thinner and and lemon pledge. I will suck down dozens of gulf oysters and chase 'em with cold Lone Star while telling you to shove your shitty "foodways" opinions straight up your ass.
April 23Apr 23 I haven’t had King Ranch Casserole in forever. I may need to remedy that in the near future.
April 23Apr 23 Author I don’t understand this dogmatic approach to sweet cornbread. You know why this dogma exists? Because it’s how you tell the kids to shut the fuck up about plain cornbread when you’re starving in Reconstruction Texas and south. Or sharecropping. Or in the Depression. Sugar was a luxury. It’s why we ate various weeds, pig guts, and trash fish. I like a wide array of cornbread. No sugar, or sweet like cake, with corn, or jalapeños, or cheese, or blueberries, or cracklings. I make jalapeño cheddar pancakes for pulled pork, or corn sticks, or muffins. My usual is bacon grease in a cast iron skillet made when when there weee still Comanche raids in Texas, with a bit of sugar and jalapeños. Wife likes molasses I like honey. I celebrate all good cornbread. i put brown sugar and a ton of red pepper in my greens. The pot likker is ethereal. i am fine with eating beans in chili, but cooked in a separate pot. the Collin Street pecan cake is addictive. I lived in Oregon 20 years ago and tillamook was really good. The export version is less so, maybe they got bought but it’s seems more airy now. I like Breyers natural vanilla, or Haagen-Dazs caramel cone or pina colada.
April 24Apr 24 Popular Post Somewhat recent (at least in the last 20 years) is sweet tea. I want iced tea. I don't want to have to order unsweet iced tea, i want to just say I want an iced tea and get an unsweet iced tea. If you want sweet tea, you're either 10 years old or from Georgia.
April 24Apr 24 Author Tea in a restaurant is so hit or miss. Many don’t properly clean the vat, and it gets that pondscum taste. It’s often instant tea not brewed. I do find many places moving away from sweet tea as it’s expensive to toss all that sugar every night.
April 24Apr 24 Lone Star gives me the shits. There are plenty of other cheep beers that taste better. Whataburger = McDonalds. Migas? Really??? The fact that a milquetoast dipshit like RC Slocum fawned all over Blue Bell ice cream tells you all you need to know. You could smear pecan pie all over Scarlett Johansson’s ass and I still wouldn’t . . . wait . . . okay, maybe then I’d eat pecan pie. Edited April 24Apr 24 by South Austin
April 24Apr 24 3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said: Before I get to the awful opinions expressed here, one of my own: King Ranch Chicken sucks and should never be made. That's a weird one. It's basically deconstructed chicken enchiladas. 2 hours ago, Bill Brasky said: the kolache thing is insane unless your experience is limited to your local donut shop and Czech Stop, in which case you need to expand your horizons Czech stop kolaches are also good. I still have to stop in both directions every ou weekend. 3 hours ago, utee94 said: Congealed salads aren't a Texas thing. You can hate on them freely but they were around all over the country. They gained in popularity during the Depression as a way to stretch food and re-use leftovers.
April 24Apr 24 1 minute ago, WBT said: That's a weird one. It's basically deconstructed chicken enchiladas. Czech stop kolaches are also good. I still have to stop in both directions every ou weekend. Anything with two “cream of” canned soups gets a no from me. There’s no cream of mushroom soup in enchiladas and putting it there would make it worse.
April 24Apr 24 Popular Post 1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said: Anything with two “cream of” canned soups gets a no from me. There’s no cream of mushroom soup in enchiladas and putting it there would make it worse. So make it with heavy cream or half and half and stop being a European bitch. https://www.homesicktexan.com/king-of-casseroles-king-ranch-chicken/
April 24Apr 24 3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said: My Dad had a low-intensity war going on with the cafeteria at Texas Instruments over sweetened cornbread. Every now and then, the cook or chef would change, or they'd get the wrong stuff from Sysco or whatever and the cornbread would be sweet. Dad would lodge his complaints first with the lunch ladies, who typically vehemently agreed with him. And there were just enough southerners and Texans employed that there was a majority agin' sweet cornbread. Yeah, man. I just don't get it. I was born in Florida and spent a lot of time visiting there. Lived in Tennessee most of my pre-Texas life before coming to Austin in '77. I'd never even heard of sweet cornbread before we got here. Pretty much anywhere I go in Texas, if they have cornbread at all, it's sweet. Cracker Barrel's about the only place I know of where they default to regular cornbread. Even at HEB when it's open, if you look at the pre-mixed cornbread mixes, most of them are sweet. If I want good cornbread, I usually just make some at home. Edited April 24Apr 24 by wood
April 24Apr 24 Wife prefers sweet cornbread but I’m not a fan of it needless to say it’s what we have most often. <- whipped.
April 24Apr 24 Popular Post 10 minutes ago, RMac5 said: Sweet cornbread is just cake, unsweetened is cornbread. Yeah, cakey cornbread, also sweet, was what Dad objected to. He and Mom were raised during the Depression on buttermilk cornbread, as was I, cooked in this skillet.
April 24Apr 24 1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said: He and Mom were raised during the Depression on buttermilk cornbread, as was I, cooked in this skillet. You were cooked in a skillet?
April 24Apr 24 3 minutes ago, South Austin said: You were cooked in a skillet? Not after I stopped fitting in it.
April 24Apr 24 1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said: Anything with two “cream of” canned soups gets a no from me. There’s no cream of mushroom soup in enchiladas and putting it there would make it worse. 59 minutes ago, South Austin said: So make it with heavy cream or half and half and stop being a European bitch. https://www.homesicktexan.com/king-of-casseroles-king-ranch-chicken/ That's the recipe I use to make mine. I dislike all of the cream of mushroom casseroles so I see where you're coming from now. Although HEB makes cream of jalapeno and cream of poblano now which I bet would make any cream of mushroom recipes better.
April 24Apr 24 Popular Post 1 hour ago, ftf82 said: Somewhat recent (at least in the last 20 years) is sweet tea. I want iced tea. I don't want to have to order unsweet iced tea, i want to just say I want an iced tea and get an unsweet iced tea. If you want sweet tea, you're either 10 years old or from Georgia. As a Native Texan, it makes me rage that I have to specify Unsweet Tea.
April 24Apr 24 Sweet tea is made up bullshit imported for Yankee transplants who confuse Texan with Southern. Its awful. There are a few old-school Mexican places in the valley that do a sweetened tea with simple syrup and lots of lime that doesn’t hurt your teeth and is really good.
April 24Apr 24 6 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said: Does H‑E‑B have their own creamery or does someone else make it. Their ice cream is very good but not as good as Tillamook. Had one a few days ago here in West Texas--puzzle included. I would have been disappointed if I had not been able to strut around like a dusty peacock and laugh at all my guests that couldn't figure it out. Odd that I was told the next morning by my wife that we were not having friends over anymore--mostly not by our choice.
April 24Apr 24 2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said: Anything with two “cream of” canned soups gets a no from me. There’s no cream of mushroom soup in enchiladas and putting it there would make it worse. That's like saying you don't like brisket because you've only eaten it made in the oven with liquid smoke. Try eating real King Ranch Chicken
April 24Apr 24 I will suck down dozens of gulf oysters and chase 'em with cold Lone Star while telling you to shove your shitty "foodways" opinions straight up your ass. Fuckin’ A
April 24Apr 24 3 hours ago, Paco said: 20 hours ago, Texzilla58 said: I will suck down dozens of gulf oysters and chase 'em with cold Lone Star while telling you to shove your shitty "foodways" opinions straight up your ass. 31 minutes ago, Steel Shank said: Fuckin’ A 7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: This is the way. It is known.
April 24Apr 24 Fuck now I want oysters. I'm going to ruin them with lemon juice and hot-sauce anyway who gives a shit if they aren't as good as the East coast ones. Maybe throw some saltines in there. Or deep-fry those bitches.
April 24Apr 24 Lone Star above all other cheap beers and is my preferred cheap live music drink Used to be $1.50 at the Satellite Lounge in Houston for the El Orbis and bingo on Monday nights before that was moved to the Continental Club. Also, those of you digging sweet cornbread just haven't tried my third generation version sweetened with honey. Balance with the savory flavors is the key.
April 24Apr 24 19 hours ago, Helobious said: FFS. At least one poster has agreed with every take I’ve had on here. They truly aren’t edgy or controversial, I didn’t come on here saying tacos suck or I hate all chicken. But god forbid I insult a food chain that the public almost unanimously agrees is terrible now One person agrees with me, everybody else is shitting on me; therefore, the public almost unanimously agrees with me.
April 24Apr 24 12 hours ago, ftf82 said: Somewhat recent (at least in the last 20 years) is sweet tea. I want iced tea. I don't want to have to order unsweet iced tea, i want to just say I want an iced tea and get an unsweet iced tea. If you want sweet tea, you're either 10 years old or from Georgia. Circling back on this. I can't rep it enough. I grew up in Houston in the 70s and 80s, and lived in Austin and Houston throughout the 90s. Never once did I have to specify unsweet tea. If you wanted sweet tea, you used the pink packets they put on the tables to put under the table legs to keep them from wobbling. I moved to east Texas in 2001 and the first time I ordered iced tea, I was met with, "Suuhweet or un-suuhweeeeet?" To make matters worse, in a noisy restaurant or at a drive-thru, "unsweet" is as close to "sweet" as you can get without saying, "sweet." I've got an idea, how about we call it tea and sweet tea. At least that way, I won't have to discover you got my order wrong by ingesting that syrupy nastiness. Edited April 24Apr 24 by dcbc
April 24Apr 24 On 4/23/2025 at 1:56 AM, Texzilla58 said: To go with the good Texas food thread… what do you hate in Texas foods, traditions, joints whatever starters: congealed salads. I can tell you some horror stories from the 60’s dickeys bbq. You’ll find better in North Dakota. blue bell. Listeria factory with indifferent management. HFCS and air. Lone Star beer. Not good. Never was good. Pearl was much better. gulf oysters. Grown in sewage. Nope. I eat only cold water oysters. hot Dr Pepper. My grandmother made this in the winter. Poured a bottle in a saucepan, warmed it, pour into a coffee cup topped with a lemon slice. Like a mix of paint thinner and and lemon pledge. Congealed salads sound disgusting and I've never had them. I also hate the fruit salad that people use whip cream in. Dickeys, Mikeskas, and the other fast food BBQ joints are so fucking bad they somehow can fuck up chopped beef sandwiches. Agree with Blue Bell, Creamy Creations clears Lone Star is great beer for cookoffs, floating, and hot day events(specifically Lone Star Red). The price point used to be so much better but the hipsters ruined that and it's not as cheap as it was even with inflation. I agree cold water oysters are so much better when consumed raw. But if you are charring them or making oyster rockefeller then gulf oysters will suffice. Never had that but would try it. Kind of reminds me of a hot toddy. 23 hours ago, Helobious said: Brisket is horrendously overrated. Burgers, steak, chicken, are all superior forms of meat 2nd on blue bell being terrible Not sure if it’s a Texas thing or not, but chili is better with beans Pecan pie and kolaches both fucking suck. Kolaches are 90% bread and 10% filling, can’t stand them Whataburger is terrible, but it used to not be Typical Helobious post and disagree with it all except your Blue Bell and Whataburger take. 16 hours ago, MalibuSheriff said: Abomination. Fuck that disgusting shit. 15 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said: Before I get to the awful opinions expressed here, one of my own: King Ranch Chicken sucks and should never be made. Brisket: I have had a lot of shitty brisket and for a while did not get the hype. I know that in an era of crazy good craft BBQ its fashionable to look down at the Central Texas “meat market” stalwarts but the fact is that till about the 2010s they were the sole outposts of truly good brisket. And a good brisket is superior to almost anything but a great steak, and a great brisket stands with a great steak. This is a bad opinion. Blue Bell: Concur. They killed people and use cheap ingredients, this isn’t the product of the 1980s and 1990s. Whataburger: Shit service and consistency hurts. Everything they make tastes better than McDonalds, because everything in McDonalds tastes like McDonalds. Better options? GTFO. Chicken strips are better than any McDonalds options, objectively. Patty melts. Whataburger has bette breakfast (tacos and biscuit choices), the McMuffin is to be eaten only if there’s no biscuit. The McRib is a shit meme menu item man. Eating that shit is just something you’ve conditioned yourself to do but most cultures wouldn’t recognize it as food. McDonald’s fries and hash browns are better. Preferring chili with beans and not liking pecan desserts is completely insane. I do know a lot of little kids who don’t like pecans. Kolaches are super good. What is wrong with people? @immamac timeout this guy for 8 hours for the bolded, thanks. 13 hours ago, ftf82 said: Somewhat recent (at least in the last 20 years) is sweet tea. I want iced tea. I don't want to have to order unsweet iced tea, i want to just say I want an iced tea and get an unsweet iced tea. If you want sweet tea, you're either 10 years old or from Georgia. Growing up on sweet sweet tea these days I prefer unsweet, just kind of wore myself out on sweet tea over the years if that makes sense. 12 hours ago, Underdog said: Wife prefers sweet cornbread but I’m not a fan of it needless to say it’s what we have most often. <- whipped. My grandpa would put a slice of cornbread in a bowl and pour cold milk on it and sprinkle some sugar on it for a snack or breakfast.
April 24Apr 24 9 hours ago, dcbc said: Used to be $1.50 at the Satellite Lounge in Houston for the El Orbis and bingo on Monday nights before that was moved to the Continental Club. Also, those of you digging sweet cornbread just haven't tried my third generation version sweetened with honey. Balance with the savory flavors is the key. Well, you could've always opted for an RC Cola.
April 24Apr 24 Just now, miguelito said: I don't know what "foodway" means. Its like a foodmart or foodtown but different. They can hook you up with Falooda and presumably a room but no beef.
April 24Apr 24 Author 2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said: Congealed salads sound disgusting and I've never had them. I also hate the fruit salad that people use whip cream in. Dickeys, Mikeskas, and the other fast food BBQ joints are so fucking bad they somehow can fuck up chopped beef sandwiches. Agree with Blue Bell, Creamy Creations clears Lone Star is great beer for cookoffs, floating, and hot day events(specifically Lone Star Red). The price point used to be so much better but the hipsters ruined that and it's not as cheap as it was even with inflation. I agree cold water oysters are so much better when consumed raw. But if you are charring them or making oyster rockefeller then gulf oysters will suffice. Never had that but would try it. Kind of reminds me of a hot toddy. Typical Helobious post and disagree with it all except your Blue Bell and Whataburger take. Fuck that disgusting shit. @immamac timeout this guy for 8 hours for the bolded, thanks. Growing up on sweet sweet tea these days I prefer unsweet, just kind of wore myself out on sweet tea over the years if that makes sense. My grandpa would put a slice of cornbread in a bowl and pour cold milk on it and sprinkle some sugar on it for a snack or breakfast. My dad’s favorite Sunday night supper was leftover cornbread in a bowl with buttermilk poured on it. Usually with a bit of Tabasco. The dish has a name: crumble in. he also enjoyed cold spam and velveeta sandwiches.
April 24Apr 24 Author 15 hours ago, South Austin said: So make it with heavy cream or half and half and stop being a European bitch. https://www.homesicktexan.com/king-of-casseroles-king-ranch-chicken/ When in doubt, Lisa Fain or Robb Walsh have the right answers. That is a fantastic version of great king ranch chicken, an ethereal dish. if you’ve only had the canned cream soup recipe you’re missing out. Those 50’s/60’s convenience casseroles for busy moms were pretty awful; mom made the king ranch one but with cream of chicken soup as I hate mushrooms and extra rotel and chilies. Fortunately no tuna casserole. These went away as the 80’s dawned with the intro of hamburger helper. We had that at least twice a week.
April 24Apr 24 My mom always liked to toss some leftover cornbread in a tall glass of cold buttermilk as a desert after dinner. If there was any cornbread left. We were some selfish kids and she often didn't get to enjoy that.
April 24Apr 24 27 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said: My dad’s favorite Sunday night supper was leftover cornbread in a bowl with buttermilk poured on it this was a before bed snack for my grandparents when i was growing up. i didn't eat anything as a kid but if i was on my grandma's lap she'd feed me that and i loved it. i make some every few years for the nostalgia and wonder every time why i liked it back then.
April 24Apr 24 19 hours ago, MalibuSheriff said: Abomination. Can you believe they sell enough of these things that an employee was able to embezzle $16 million over 9 years?
April 24Apr 24 16 hours ago, Texzilla58 said: Tea in a restaurant is so hit or miss. Many don’t properly clean the vat, and it gets that pondscum taste. It’s often instant tea not brewed. I do find many places moving away from sweet tea as it’s expensive to toss all that sugar every night. And why the fuck is tea $3? What does it cost to brew 5 gallons of tea?
April 24Apr 24 1 minute ago, Cousin Strawberry said: And why the fuck is tea $3? What does it cost to brew 5 gallons of tea? Tea and soda costs nothing. But it makes a good profit for restaurants
April 24Apr 24 On 4/23/2025 at 8:28 AM, Helobious said: Brisket is horrendously overrated. Burgers, steak, chicken, are all superior forms of meat 2nd on blue bell being terrible Not sure if it’s a Texas thing or not, but chili is better with beans Pecan pie and kolaches both fucking suck. Kolaches are 90% bread and 10% filling, can’t stand them Whataburger is terrible, but it used to not be
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