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Tom "the turtle" Herman [Lame Duck or greatest 5d chess player ever?]

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#6902

There's little fire among the players when they make mistakes or cost the team due to poor effort.  It's not all on them of course, but why the hell is game week against nearly everyone in the Big 12 "workmanlike, taking care of business" as if we're an untouchable juggernaut that can win any game if we so choose.  Texas has a straight up talent disadvantage against tech in multiple positions yet no coaches nor players acknowledge that reality.  Makes it far too easy for opposing coaches to target the weakness that Texas is completely ignorant about.  Yeah O guess it is on Tom, self scouting under him has been absolutely abysmal year after year

#6908
2 minutes ago, Llogg said:

Wrong

You can want him gone but it will not happen till 2022 at the earliest 

#6911

He’s still gotta go. The sooner the better. The longer he stays means we dig a bigger hole for the next guy.

#6913
7 minutes ago, mdmost said:

You can want him gone but it will not happen till 2022 at the earliest 

Even if he had lost.  That was an absolutely pathetic performance regardless the result.  

#6915
2 minutes ago, jinx said:

Even if he had lost.  That was an absolutely pathetic performance regardless the result.  

You want it to be one way. But it’s the other way.

#6916
23 minutes ago, deech said:

Undefeated isn't good enough.......Tough crowd.  LOL

So, if a swimmer wins a race but has awful form, that's supposed to be a good thing? Pretty sure Coach Reese would think not.

#6917

I don't see this being a consistently high tier program with this immature jackass at head coach 

#6920

Loved the win. Loved the fact the team didn’t give up. Would love to win out or even finish with 1 or 2 losses. As long as one of those losses is in a championship or playoff game of some kind. I would gladly jump on a keep Herman train. But we all know what he is and what he’s not capable of. So for now. I’ll keep enjoying this win.  There’ll be plenty of time for more Fuck Herman posts. Probably much sooner than later.......
 

#6921

Fng embarrassing! I know they were “prepped” more than the previous week, but Houston Baptist might take us to the end of regulation too!

#6922

First road trip, new team, different leaders on the team, tough to win on the road, yada yada yada. It was MFing Texas Tech! They suck and won’t likely win more than three games!

#6923
1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

I have to hand it to Herman. He usually just loses to shitty teams but today he went the extra mile and made it a humiliating ass whipping.

I don't even care that much, just frankly surprised he had me so fooled again. I'm a real moron for thinking we had a great team this year.

Or...maybe we come back and win. Whatever.

Ok I guess I will now have to post about how Tom Herman lost every game this season.

#6927
12 hours ago, USNALonghorn said:

Maybe TH will take TCU seriously and actually game plan after this scare

Uh he won’t. We’ll look exactly the same. 

#6930

It was like Tom took over play calling again In the second half, same conservative bullshit from last year with a lead.  Run, run, pass or pass for 1 yard hope he breaks tackles, run, pass, totally different then utep game calling.  That shit needs to change and I think it might of had something to do with Tom in Yurcich’s ear.

#6931

Tom's here to stay for the foreseeable future, barring some crazy meltdown like a losing season.  He's not a bad coach like Strong, but he's not a very good one either, and his remaining time here will probably be like 2017-2019 and his tenure at UH: some big wins, far too many inexcusable losses, and no rings.  The last 10+ years have convinced me we have a very low chance of finding anyone who could do much better. 

This our Sisphyian fate.  We might as well lay back Clayton Williams-style and enjoy it.  Enjoy the stolen wins while you can.  

#6932
15 hours ago, mdmost said:

You can want him gone but it will not happen till 2022 at the earliest 

You misunderstand. No matter the outcome of this game he wasn't getting fired. What is wrong is your implication that because the outcome of this game went the way of miracles he should be forgiven.

#6934
23 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

He's not a bad coach like Strong, but he's not a very good one either, and his remaining time here will probably be like 2017-2019 and his tenure at UH: some big wins, far too many inexcusable losses, and no rings.    

Yup. It is clear who he is at this point. His teams are inconsistent and fundamentally unsound. He recruits pretty well, but will never lock down the state like Mack did. Add it all up and he's a mediocre coach who'll go somewhere between 7-5 and 9-3 almost every year. 

#6935

I still can't get over how he takes pains to portray this big dick alpha male persona but actually turtles and plays not to lose.  Someone did a nice psychological analysis on that a while back but whatever the cause, I'm sick of getting the lead and then playing like we're an underdog surprised we have it.

#6936
3 hours ago, 6th Street said:

Who will be this year's Maryland?

It was nearly Tech.

#6937
35 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

I still can't get over how he takes pains to portray this big dick alpha male persona but actually turtles and plays not to lose.  Someone did a nice psychological analysis on that a while back but whatever the cause, I'm sick of getting the lead and then playing like we're an underdog surprised we have it.

mack's bullshit sunshine was more tolerable than the passive/aggressive crap we're going to get from therm at the presser tomorrow.

#6938
1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

Tom's here to stay for the foreseeable future, barring some crazy meltdown like a losing season.  He's not a bad coach like Strong, but he's not a very good one either, and his remaining time here will probably be like 2017-2019 and his tenure at UH: some big wins, far too many inexcusable losses, and no rings.  The last 10+ years have convinced me we have a very low chance of finding anyone who could do much better. 

This our Sisphyian fate.  We might as well lay back Clayton Williams-style and enjoy it.  Enjoy the stolen wins while you can.  

Bite your tongue.  Clayton is no longer with us.  I’m not that miserable....yet

#6939
13 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

mack's bullshit sunshine was more tolerable than the passive/aggressive crap we're going to get from therm at the presser tomorrow.

Half the teams in the country lost yesterday, and we're extremely happy that we're not one of them. 

#6940
Half the teams in the country lost yesterday, and we're extremely happy that we're not one of them. 

As you should be. Style points are overrated. A win is a win. Some are harder than others.
#6941
2 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

Tom's here to stay for the foreseeable future, barring some crazy meltdown like a losing season.  He's not a bad coach like Strong, but he's not a very good one either...  The last 10+ years have convinced me we have a very low chance of finding anyone who could do much better.   This our Sisphyian fate.  We might as well lay back Clayton Williams-style and enjoy it.  Enjoy the stolen wins while you can.  

Sisyphean

#6943

Tom is doing pretty good in coaching.  From reading about the game and watching extended highlights I only saw three big areas of execution needed for improvement.  Blocking, tackling, catching punts and onside kicks.  When we finally get rid of Tom, I say get someone who can coach these areas.  When Tom is out of coaching, he can be a tv analyst and marvel at our ability to block, tackle, and catch punts and kicks.  

#6944
2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Fat Pat is going to take a shit on Herman. He does it every year. 

The only mystery is if he will make the official steam whistle sound as he slides up and down Tom's chest. 

#6947
16 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

the press needs to grill Herman on the defense in tomorrows presser. I want to know why there were no adjustments made to get pressure on the QB 

Our problems were not the pass rush or lack of pressure. Our DL was doing a decent job getting pressure, but our coverage was so bad they were able to get the ball out quickly the entire game. You can’t get pressure when the LBs are leaving slant routes open almost immediately after the snap. 

#6948
56 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Our problems were not the pass rush or lack of pressure. Our DL was doing a decent job getting pressure, but our coverage was so bad they were able to get the ball out quickly the entire game. You can’t get pressure when the LBs are leaving slant routes open almost immediately after the snap. 

Yeah, Mitchell was lazy yesterday, and Overshown not sure where to be (inexperience at LB) and overpursued way too much...

#6949
1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Long thread from Ian Boyd on why Herman struggles against teams he should beat (read the replies).

 

TLDR- other staffs game plan, we don't.

#6950
1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

Our problems were not the pass rush or lack of pressure. Our DL was doing a decent job getting pressure, but our coverage was so bad they were able to get the ball out quickly the entire game. You can’t get pressure when the LBs are leaving slant routes open almost immediately after the snap. 

I don’t understand why we don’t play press coverage and slow the receivers down or disrupt their routes and give our defensive line a chance to get to the QB.  I can’t stand watching them pick us apart.  I know it’s not quite that simple but at least try it from time to time.  

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