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Tom "the turtle" Herman [Lame Duck or greatest 5d chess player ever?]

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1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

Mack Brown did it. He didn't seem hurt by it.

But even if Herman isn't that guy, he might just stop giving very many fucks about the program when it is obvious he is dead man walking. We cannot afford to have somebody with no shits to give in a position like this for long.

Entirely different situation. Mack was old, accomplished, wanted credit (more than he already got) for what he built, and stupidly thought that he earned the right to pick when he left. He was legitimately butt hurt and spiteful to be removed from his program. Herman is still in his coaching prime and has accomplished very little (comparatively). He doesn't have the credentials to throw a hissy fit if he wants another high profile gig.

Agree with your 2nd paragraph though. If the decision has already been made at a high level--and Herman has caught wind of that--there's no point keeping a lame duck coach around that probably won't be working 18 hour days just out of respect for the program.

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I don’t want Urban Meyer. 


Here’s my list:

1) David Shaw

2) Harsin

3) Campbell

4) Fleck

David Shaw?   Why???  

10 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Entirely different situation. Mack was old, accomplished, wanted credit (more than he already got) for what he built, and stupidly thought that he earned the right to pick when he left. He was legitimately butt hurt and spiteful to be removed from his program. Herman is still in his coaching prime and has accomplished very little (comparatively). He doesn't have the credentials to throw a hissy fit if he wants another high profile gig.

Agree with your 2nd paragraph though. If the decision has already been made at a high level--and Herman has caught wind of that--there's no point keeping a lame duck coach around that probably won't be working 18 hour days just out of respect for the program.

You think herman knows that?

16 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I just posted in that thread that I bumped into a buddy today who has some sort of connection to an assistant on Dodge's SLC staff. This guy apparently said Ewers de-committing is 100% because he doesn't want to play for Herman.

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11 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

David Shaw?   Why???  

It’s been explained.  He’s won his division 5 times and won two Rose Bowls and been to a third.  At Stanford.  

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4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

 

No shit? Where do I sign up for this breaking news?

FUCK CHIP BROWN

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Margin call motherfucker.  Seize all assets of Tom and Michelle Herman and put his seat on the 40 up for sale.

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6 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

 

He is setting new records for margin dwindling every day!

Rumors like these always crack me up. They're fun message board fodder, but they lack any grounding in common sense.
Tom Herman seems to be a pretty arrogant asshole; until they're drawing up his severance package, I'm sure he believes that he can still turn it around. He knows he might never get a job as prominent as Texas HC again.
If that doesn't happen, he's making over $5M a season and wouldn't want to do anything to jeopardize his golden parachute buyout if/when he gets fired.
Tom Herman presumably wants to continue working in a profession that can pay him millions of dollars a year. Being a professional is an expected part of the job.
He gains absolutely nothing by burning it down on his way out.

Man, if I had a dollar for all the assholes making millions who did something stupid and jeopardized it. I’d be a rich asshole. Point being that when you are an asshole, money is no barrier.

Not saying he did it, but he wouldn’t let the money stop him.
30 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Margin call motherfucker.  Seize all assets of Tom and Michelle Herman and put his seat on the 40 up for sale.

Turn those machines back on!" :-) - YouTube

Someone smarter than me can put Tom's face on Randy. 

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I don’t believe Shaw beats a good blOwU team consistently but I’ve gone down some rabbit holes with buddies discussing how many times Mack lost to stoops and still could have won the big 12 if he doesn’t shit the bed against k-state, ok state etc etc. It’s mind numbing honestly. If our next hire puts out teams who play sound football and we win 10 games I’ll be ecstatic. 

5 hours ago, TexArcher said:

I told a buddy of mine that I'm just gonna become a women's volleyball fan instead.  Long legs, pony tails, and they actually win.  

Don't forget the camel toes...

36 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Someone smarter than me can put Tom's face on Randy. 


 

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5 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

A Dark Winter is coming.

You seem to be a poet: 

The Road Not Taken 

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Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
 
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,
 
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
 
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

UT has taken the road of stupidity and unhinged long lost pride the last decade. if we haven’t offered for Urban (since the money is there I’ve been told) we are stupid. Period. The fucking money is there. 

Just now, UncleBuck said:

Aaand another one gone and another one gone

 

I think you have to make a move regardless of winning or losing this weekend. This many recruits jumping ship and top targets crossing us off the list. 
 

get this rot out of the program. 

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THis is the greatest recruiting meltdown I have ever seen, from any school in any year.  So we have that going for us.

I think you have to make a love regardless of winning or losing this weekend. This many recruits jumping ship and top targets crossing us off the list. 

Definitely make love tonight and this weekend, too. Regardless of what happens on the football field. Love makes the world go round or makes you sleepy.
1 minute ago, Dbeasy said:

THis is the greatest recruiting meltdown I have ever seen, from any school in any year.  So we have that going for us.

Why not? Let’s continue to break records. Eventually, the staff the football program pays for will get edgy. 

Every decommit is 10 more BMDs blowing up CDCs phone. So that’s good.

1 minute ago, Dbeasy said:

THis is the greatest recruiting meltdown I have ever seen, from any school in any year.  So we have that going for us.

Yup,  I follow recruiting religiously.  This is one of the worst meltdowns from a recruiting standpoint.  I’m not sure how we convince these kids to jump back on board and convince other talented players to give us a look.  As a parent, I 100% wouldn’t want my kid to play for this coach and this athletic department.  The only thing we have proven is that we waste talent, and keep horrible coaches in charge longer than they should.  

Fucking shut the program down unless they are 100% willing to do whatever it takes to win.  Anything less is waste of time and scam of fan revenue.

Since Herman “doesn’t listen to noise” what exactly are Carringron and Chang telling him is the reason for this meltdown?  

Lmfao. Even when Baylor raped everyone they didn’t have this level of bullshit. No one wants to sniff Austin 

Since Herman “doesn’t listen to noise” what exactly are Carringron and Chang telling him is the reason for this meltdown?  

Bad Fans
2 hours ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Also posted in the recruiting thread but here is an Elling clarification:

 

The head coach at Texas "Dissed the kid's ability in a roundabout way" of the number one overall recruit in the nation for 2022???

The same one that we have seen videos of dropping dimes at 50 and 60 yards at a time????

This guy needs help and I am not kidding.  Can we get the Surly lawyers to examine the contract for with cause based on losing his mental faculties?

I don't think any program has ever seen this kind of dumpster fire before, the future of the program is literally being destroyed right in front of our eyes over the course of a few days.

1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

Since Herman “doesn’t listen to noise” what exactly are Carringron and Chang telling him is the reason for this meltdown?  

User name checks out. Not in an obligatory way. Makes sense. 

4 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Gundy is gonna fuck this up isn’t he?

When has Gundy won out? To be fair this is the best defense they have ever had and Hubbard is legit and the QB is finally healthy. I still can’t root for us to lose ever. But if he manages to finally pull it off I will root for OSU to win out. I just doubt he can

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1 minute ago, Michael Knight said:

I don't think any program has ever seen this kind of dumpster fire before, the future of the program is literally being destroyed right in front of our eyes over the course of a few days.

Herbstreit was right it looks like.... fucking cesspool.  If we’re going to suck, let’s atleast stop paying our athletic director and coaches top 5 salaries.  If I’m going to watch a shit product, I’ll do so with a HEB coupon for $10 tickets to games.  These guys are stealing money from alums and this school and are absolutely horrible at their jobs.  

When it rains, it monsoons. 

Tom is gonna make brown paper grocery bags popular again all by himself.

My hope for Tom Herman Texas football right now is actually lower than my hope for Charlie Strong Texas football was after the loss to Kansas. The 2010s were terrible for Texas, and the 2020's aren't looking to be any better right now.

We're in a really, really bad place right now. Unless we get urban, we're basically screwed for AT LEAST 3 years, probably more like 10.

Goddamnit. Fire this dumbfuck.



The Herman supporters are awfully, awfully quiet.
Pretty sure they don't exist

Gotta fix this shit right. I want the guy canned now. But regardless, they’ve got to get the hire right and pray the December signing day is kicked.
2010s blew, let’s get the 2020s fixed quick. They’re not listening to me whatever fuck everything

3 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Goddamnit. Fire this dumbfuck.



The Herman supporters are awfully, awfully quiet.

there's like two on twitter who are still blaming fans for being toxic..  Even fancyboots the longhorn woman has cooled down a bit

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The program is done barring a hire of Urban, Saban and Dabo.  It is going to take years to recover.  Can't wait to see the faces of management when that sweet revenue dries up.

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