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Tom "the turtle" Herman [Lame Duck or greatest 5d chess player ever?]

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1 minute ago, ztejas said:

I will ship you a pound of ground wagyu if Herman coaches a game in 2021. Gentleman's agreement.

A game for anyone?

as a head coach?

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9 minutes ago, oldhorn2 said:

Sam didnt improve from freshman year....Stern got worse from freshman year...Okafor..???WTF?

I am sensing a pattern....

| Sam didn’t improve from freshman year..

 

im sorry this is just fucking asinine and a terrible fucking take. This is bad and you should feel bad. 

3 minutes ago, troph said:


I don’t remember this? To be fair I’ve stopped giving a shit a while ago.

 

 

lol at anyone who thinks sophomore sam wasn't >>>> freshman sam.  

 

i dont know why sports fans have to say the dumbest fucking shit when trying to make their points.

11 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

he bet on his OL.  probably the worst unit on the team at this point (WR/TE close second)

dumbass made every wrong decision today.  how we can not scheme to get 10 yards or more against a prevent D wanting to hold us to a FG is beyond me.

I'm just trying to exhaust all of his outs and bad decisions. We went with the learning mistakes early on in his career.  He's still making them.  He's not being paid to make awful, amateur decisions.  The fanbase could have made better decisions than he did today.  Really, we could have.  And another bad decision that Iowa State lives and dies by--what's the point of having a tall TE that can highpoint the ball if you're not going to use him?  

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Just now, BigOrange1 said:

lol at anyone who thinks sophomore sam wasn't >>>> freshman sam.  

 

i dont know why sports fans have to say the dumbest fucking shit when trying to make their points.

How about this: Sam didn't improve over four years as much as Colt did.

Taking the points is why Iowa State won (cheating refs helped too).

I don’t mind the 4th and 1/2 call to go for it. But the qb sneak was there and we went for it from the shotgun.

It was nice seeing Eagles make some great play so we went away from him. We had Wiley make a nice play so we went away from him. We were balanced and then we went away from that to Sam-Hero Ball with plays designed to make it more difficult.

Not tearing that official a new ass for their failure to stop the clock. TH is a position coach, probably a great head coach for Texas State. But he is out of his fucking league in mid-major or above D1.

I just want it all to be over and we're on to the next guy. If it's Urban. It's it's Luke Fickell. Makes no difference. Herman has shown he can't or won't get it done. Time to move on. 

6 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I will ship you a pound of ground wagyu if Herman coaches a game in 2021. Gentleman's agreement.

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36 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

I agree, but it amazes me with all of the ways Herman has handicapped this season, we would not be having this conversation with Ingram's fumble. This team succeeded in spite of Herman to an extent

Is this the 2nd time you made this same point? We would've been eliminated from b12cg contention today with or without the loss to TCU. In a season the roster is peaking. When OU legit sucks by OU standards. I think we'd still be having the conversation, but maybe our recruiting class would be better.

3 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

How about this: Sam didn't improve over four years as much as Colt did.

Colt is the 2nd best qb in program history and the best who played all 4 years.  no shit??

Hey our sister school is playing on ABC right now.  

Wouldn’t mind giving Joe Brady a call. 

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Fuck everything.  Especially this. 

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11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

He wouldn’t have started at either of those schools 

Geez.  The point is that he would have gotten better.

5 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Taking the points is why Iowa State won (cheating refs helped too).

I don’t mind the 4th and 1/2 call to go for it. But the qb sneak was there and we went for it from the shotgun.

It was nice seeing Eagles make some great play so we went away from him. We had Wiley make a nice play so we went away from him. We were balanced and then we went away from that to Sam-Hero Ball with plays designed to make it more difficult.

Not tearing that official a new ass for their failure to stop the clock. TH is a position coach, probably a great head coach for Texas State. But he is out of his fucking league in mid-major or above D1.

The clock was corrected. Not sure what you're talking about with cheating refs but I agree with the rest.

You step back and think, Texas just lost to Iowa State.  Not just once, which is bad enough, but two years in a row.

 

I'm not even surprised.  That's what a shitty corch Mensatom is.

1 minute ago, DoneWithit said:

Wouldn’t mind giving Joe Brady a call. 

Why not? But only after lobbing a phone call to Matt Rhule's agent to make sure he doesn't hate the NFL.

The refs are not why we suck.   Stop bitching about the refs.  that’s what losing bitchasses do. 

12 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I will ship you a pound of ground wagyu if Herman coaches a game in 2021. Gentleman's agreement.

Dude! Don’t grind Wagyu! That’s something Tom would do, and cook it well done after that.

19 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Can we find a loophole where we can pay Tom’s buyout in Kohl’s cash?

HEB BUDDY BUCKS.... My kids will contribute!!  😁 

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9 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

Colt is the 2nd best qb in program history and the best who played all 4 years.  no shit??

I can't quite tell if you agree or not, but point is (some) people are expecting a year-over-year improvement and have only one guy to measure against.  

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6 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

I've resorted to allowing myself to be ok with Luke Fickell. He seems competent and he's not an asshole on camera. 

cool, lather rinse repeat

5 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

I've resorted to allowing myself to be ok with Luke Fickell. He seems competent and he's not an asshole on camera. 

yea!  G5 here we come again.

The refs are not why we suck.   Stop bitching about the refs.  that’s what losing bitchasses do. 

Yep. Everyone knows the refs are terrible. How about this: let’s not have a shitty coaching staff that continuously puts us in a position to lose with the help of shitty reffing.

In the first half we didn't get a borderline roughing the passer/out of bounds call against us that shocked me.

Who was it who caught the fairly long pass (Eagles), got hit and fumbled?  Is someone complaining about this?  Looked like fumble to me, or at least close enough you won't get the call more than 50% of the time.  

The Big XII is well below average this year and there is NO reason we shouldn't be unbeaten with an average margin of victory of 42-14.  Except coaching.

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11 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Geez.  The point is that he would have gotten better.

the problem is no one would know.

14 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

Colt is the 2nd best qb in program history and the best who played all 4 years.  no shit??

This argument = "No way anyone ever comes along and is better than Thurman Thomas at OSU."

1 hour ago, F250 said:

-Tom wasted what should have been the season we win the Big 12.

- ou with a young team that should be rebuilding won the rivalry game and is set to win the conference.

- The sheep rapists in college station are a top 5 team.

- Herman is unable to attract legacy recruits.

Are there any more reasons that the BMD's need to step in and force CDC's hand?

 

 

@ImissWallyPryor Maybe this?

2 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:


Yep. Everyone knows the refs are terrible. How about this: let’s not have a shitty coaching staff that continuously puts us in a position to lose with the help of shitty reffing.

This. The better you are, the lesser the impact from some shitty reffing. The impact from shitty reffing is much greater when coupled with shitty coaching/execution.

I mean.  I'm far from effing at peace, but do understand the sentiment.

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Would you say that you’re pretty far from fucking OK?
12 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Why not? But only after lobbing a phone call to Matt Rhule's agent to make sure he doesn't hate the NFL.

I guess you could but Rhule was NFL all the way.  He's in the club now.  you rarely leave the club.  Saban was a complete outlier, IMO.

29 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

He did improve from his freshman to sophomore year. After the Georgia win, I bought in and thought we were going to be contenders the next 2 years. And Sam would keep getting better. And Tom would keep growing with him. Nope. Both reverted the very next year and it never got any better than it did in 2018. It was a fluke outlier year in both of their careers here.

The Herman era needs to end with the Sam era. Gave us a few cool moments but not much other than that. Better than the Charlie era? Sure. But that is an extremely low bar to set to judge them.

And we still lost 4 games. 

We are the laughingstock of college football every single time we lose. It is amazing and depressing that this no longer phases me.

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3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I guess you could but Rhule was NFL all the way.  He's in the club now.  you rarely leave the club.  Saban was a complete outlier, IMO.

And Spurrier.

We've joked about it but it really is incredible how many one-score games Herman has been involved in at Texas. Herman has coached 47 total games at Texas, 26 of those have been one-score games. Herman has coached 35 Big 12 games and 21 of those have been one-score games. Herman is 3-0 against Kansas but two of those wins have been one-score games, including the near-disaster 50-48 game won by Dicker's walk-off last season. The Jayhawks are 7-36 during Herman's Texas tenure.

24 minutes ago, Bigbend1812 said:

Fuck everything.  Especially this. 

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Looks like something we haven’t had in a while. An easy longhorn win. NTTAWWT.

7 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I guess you could but Rhule was NFL all the way.  He's in the club now.  you rarely leave the club.  Saban was a complete outlier, IMO.

I agree with you. Seems like that was always his preferred destination though he'd spent the majority of his career in college football.

Fire the fraud...30-17 record so far

Lost to ISU 2 in a row 2-2

1-3 vs TCU

1-4 vs OU

2-2 vs OSU

The only record he really has going for him is being 3-0 in bowl games. But who really gives a shit about meaningless bowl games. 

 

22 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

yea!  G5 here we come again.

I know. Sad. Dark times are ahead yet again. However, as slim as it is, even Meyer had to start at Bowling Green, so who knows. We may hit the lottery, but we're more likely to bust. 

Fickells Cincy teams look better and more complete than Herman or Strongs Houston/Louisville teams. 
 

the guy has done a good job evaluating big and fast guys and getting them to cincy and developing. 

Just now, Spider2YBanana said:

I know. Sad. Dark times are ahead yet again. However, as slim as it is, even Meyer had to start at Bowling Green, so who knows. We may hit the lottery, but we're more likely to bust. 

We don't have to bust.  We can ensure we hit the lottery by buying up every lottery ticket and giving them to Urban Meyer.

24 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

cool, lather rinse repeat

Indeed. I fucking hate this. We miss on UM and we're doing the same ol bs again unless we get lucky. If it's Fickell, whatever. Maybe he can translate his success. 

7 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

And Spurrier.

And Harbaugh, and Carroll.  Not saying we should or could get a guy from the NFL but it does happen.  Anyway, I find it hard to believe that if we make Urban the highest paid coach in college football he doesn't accept it.  I think the number would be 9.5 million and I think its better to spend that than to give some coach $5 million that is going to maybe be good but who knows.

Just now, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

And Harbaugh, and Carroll.  Not saying we should or could get a guy from the NFL but it does happen.  Anyway, I find it hard to believe that if we make Urban the highest paid coach in college football he doesn't accept it.  I think the number would be 9.5 million and I think its better to spend that than to give some coach $5 million that is going to maybe be good but who knows.

I ran the numbers a few weeks back and after you factor in the buyouts we basically paid Strong and Herman $10M/season. Might as well give that salary to a coach who is much more likely to earn it in Urban Meyer.

2 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Indeed. I fucking hate this. We miss on UM and we're doing the same ol bs again unless we get lucky. If it's Fickell, whatever. Maybe he can translate his success. 

I think Tony Elliott would be the best hire outside of Urban. 

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