April 28Apr 28 And depth of discharge. And general safety. And it basically degrades like shit even after getting to 80%, it falls off a cliff, lithium keeps going for a while.
April 28Apr 28 13 minutes ago, immamac said: And depth of discharge. And general safety. And it basically degrades like shit even after getting to 80%, it falls off a cliff, lithium keeps going for a while. Serious question: what type do other EVs use?
April 28Apr 28 2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said: Serious question: what type do other EVs use? It's a mix. Tesla uses LFP for their shortrange model 3 and Y, and NMC for the longer range versions. Rivian uses LFP. Chevy Equinox and Blazer use NMC, Nissan Leaf has historically used NMC but is supposed to be switching to LFP in 2026, BMW i3 uses NMC.
April 28Apr 28 2 minutes ago, utee94 said: It's a mix. Tesla uses LFP for their shortrange model 3 and Y, and NMC for the longer range versions. Rivian uses LFP. Chevy Equinox and Blazer use NMC, Nissan Leaf has historically used NMC but is supposed to be switching to LFP in 2026, BMW i3 uses NMC.
April 28Apr 28 4 hours ago, Brisketexan said: I think the issue is battery life cycle. A NMC battery will putter out after significantly fewer charges than a LFP battery. It's a slightly higher performer, but will need to be replaced much sooner. 4 hours ago, immamac said: And depth of discharge. And general safety. And it basically degrades like shit even after getting to 80%, it falls off a cliff, lithium keeps going for a while. 1 hour ago, utee94 said: It's a mix. Tesla uses LFP for their shortrange model 3 and Y, and NMC for the longer range versions. Rivian uses LFP. Chevy Equinox and Blazer use NMC, Nissan Leaf has historically used NMC but is supposed to be switching to LFP in 2026, BMW i3 uses NMC. Hmmm. Edited April 28Apr 28 by High Plains Drifter
April 28Apr 28 1 hour ago, utee94 said: It's a mix. Tesla uses LFP for their shortrange model 3 and Y, and NMC for the longer range versions. Rivian uses LFP. Chevy Equinox and Blazer use NMC, Nissan Leaf has historically used NMC but is supposed to be switching to LFP in 2026, BMW i3 uses NMC. Yeah, LFP has significantly lower energy density. It isn't technically ideal for a vehicle where density matters. But it is cheaper and doesn't mind sitting at 100% charge. I'm not sure why anyone would be up in arms about NMC. It is a good, battery chemistry for vehicles. You just have to avoid having it sit at 100% charge for extended periods of time. That said, it is an odd match for a product marketed around its low price. The Nissan leaf originally used LMO, switched to NMC in 2017 or so, and looks to be switching to LFP for costs reasons. Most of its early problems weren't battery chemistry issues, but lack of active thermal management.
April 29Apr 29 After reading this whole thread for some reason, I’m putting down a deposit. I’ve been looking for a truck to haul trash, potting soil, recycling, etc and haven’t found anything I’m willing to pay for. I can pull trailers with my other vehicles so this is more about needing an open bed at the moment. I will also enjoy having another vehicle that it bothers my high falutin wife to ride around in assuming it makes it to production.
April 29Apr 29 2 hours ago, Evil Bill Obrien said: Will probably be throwing in $50 to get in line for one of these, why not.
April 29Apr 29 A beige truck? With those wheels? I mean, putting a bumper sticker on there that says "PLEASE DO NOT HAVE SEX WITH ME" seems redundant, but if you wanna be super-sure, go for it.
April 29Apr 29 5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: A beige truck? With those wheels? I mean, putting a bumper sticker on there that says "PLEASE DO NOT HAVE SEX WITH ME" seems redundant, but if you wanna be super-sure, go for it. 🙄 Fine go all OUSux:
April 29Apr 29 1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said: That’s the thing with the hybrid mavs though- front wheel drive. Nope, just a premium to get AWD.
April 29Apr 29 28 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said: Now we are at 35k Nice goal post shift there... My entire point was responding to someone who said they were putting a deposit on one, why not. My why not is for $5k more you can get a Ford Hybrid 2 wheel drive vs a start up EV 2 wheel drive. I personally think thats a much better investment that putting $20k or even $50 into a Series A funded vehicle backed by Jeff Bezos and other similar folks. The likelihood of being able to find a shop or anyone to work on it is exponentially higher with the Ford. Plus you get fun and neat shit like a radio, AC, a color you like, unlimited range, and the ability to actually haul shit a long way. I'm not shitting on Slate. I've said multiple times I'm all for any attempts to stop the vehicle cost/size race to stupidity. I would like to see it succeed. However, we've already discussed that this vehicle's market is extremely niche. Too niche IMO. So if someone want to throw $20k at one and hope it succeeds, deal with the negatives and take their chances that the company exists in 2026-7, I'm never going to stop them. However, if they pose the question of why not... On a message board... I'm going to reply with a logical alternative as to why not. Edited April 29Apr 29 by BurntEyes
April 29Apr 29 20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: How is the space for the truck nuts? Sadly, unlike the Raptor and F250s the 2025 model doesn't come with the truck nut option. It's sad really. However, you could by some 19" rims, small sidewall tires, underbody lights and a huge brush guard with nessecary lighting to really make it a capable truck.
April 29Apr 29 @BurntEyes is having a blowout on Ford Mavericks! With prices this low, low, low you’d be insane not to buy one! C’mon down today before it’s too late!
April 29Apr 29 1 minute ago, royiv said: @BurntEyes is having a blowout on Ford Mavericks! With prices this low, low, low you’d be insane not to buy one! C’mon down today before it’s too late! Find a vehicle in the same price range with similar features and feel free to point it out. Seriously, I'd love to learn. There is a reason the Maverick demand out paced supply at inception. It perfectly fits a particular niche, alone.
April 29Apr 29 Just now, BurntEyes said: Find a vehicle in the same price range with similar features and feel free to point it out. Seriously, I'd love to learn. There is a reason the Maverick demand out paced supply at inception. It perfectly fits a particular niche, alone. It was a joke, my man.
April 29Apr 29 7 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: The best reason to say fuck you to this thing is that it's a Bezosmobile Yeah, it's, in at least some small part, an attempt by Bezo answer to the failure of the Cybershit and Emo, imo. 3 minutes ago, royiv said: It was a joke, my man. Regards my man, regards! Edited April 29Apr 29 by BurntEyes
April 29Apr 29 1 hour ago, Brisketexan said: A beige truck? With those wheels? I mean, putting a bumper sticker on there that says "PLEASE DO NOT HAVE SEX WITH ME" seems redundant, but if you wanna be super-sure, go for it. Virtually any modern truck would reduce my fuckability in my wife's eyes. OTOH, if I rolled up in vintage 80s long bed F-150...
April 29Apr 29 28 minutes ago, Bateshorn said: Virtually any modern truck would reduce my fuckability in my wife's eyes. OTOH, if I rolled up in vintage 80s long bed F-150...
April 29Apr 29 4 hours ago, BurntEyes said: I mean I don't need a truck right this second or else yeah I know I could just go get a Maverick...but can you turn it into an SUV with some bits your might be able to order on amazon?
April 29Apr 29 18 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said: I mean I don't need a truck right this second or else yeah I know I could just go get a Maverick...but can you turn it into an SUV with some bits your might be able to order on amazon? I don't believe that shit for a second. Ordering a camper top and some rear seats doesn't remove the rear window or the metal partition behind the front seats, it would have to be a completely different build for that to work.
April 29Apr 29 17 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said: I mean I don't need a truck right this second or else yeah I know I could just go get a Maverick...but can you turn it into an SUV with some bits your might be able to order on amazon? SUV Maverick Bezos option for Maverick "SUV" convertible:
April 29Apr 29 3 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said: I don't believe that shit for a second. Ordering a camper top and some rear seats doesn't remove the rear window or the metal partition behind the front seats, it would have to be a completely different build for that to work. Ford Bronco Hybrid if you wait a minute Or if you're in a hurry: This page brought to you by BurntEyes sponsored by Ford. Please like and subscribe, I'll love you if you do.
April 29Apr 29 so according to their FAQ, everything behind this 700 lb stack of plywood is detachable to convert into SUV mode. Seems safe.
April 29Apr 29 That is the jinkiest looking little truck ever made. If you need a few bags of mulch moved, call me.....
April 29Apr 29 6 hours ago, BurntEyes said: A buddy has one of the4se for a company truck. If he is going down the highway at 555 or more, I can not hear him on the phone. It has really loud road and wind noise.
April 29Apr 29 11 minutes ago, markstanco said: If he is going down the highway at 555 or more, I can not hear him on the phone. 555 miles per hour is pretty fast to be fair.
April 29Apr 29 12 minutes ago, markstanco said: A buddy has one of the4se for a company truck. If he is going down the highway at 555 or more, I can not hear him on the phone. It has really loud road and wind noise. Well yeah, he's moving faster than a 747
April 29Apr 29 15 minutes ago, markstanco said: A buddy has one of the4se for a company truck. If he is going down the highway at 555 or more, I can not hear him on the phone. It has really loud road and wind noise. Not my personal experience at all. My experience is admittedly limited driving a family vehicle but the sound on the receiving end was fine in the calls I made. Have you ever actually ridden in one? The wind noise inside is near zero. Was his window rolled down? Does he have the same issue with everybody? Bit of a logic leap to conclude the wind noise is terrible in a vehicle based on a call with one friend is his work truck, but it that's Surly for you. Edit - but in fairness I've never gone 555 mph in one. So... mileage may vary. Edited April 29Apr 29 by BurntEyes
April 29Apr 29 1 hour ago, BurntEyes said: SUV Maverick Bezos option for Maverick "SUV" convertible: Not nearly the same but ok...
April 30Apr 30 I haven't seen this mentioned yet, granted I skipped the arguing back and forth crap. Didn't a requirement go into effect for the 2017 model year and beyond which required backup cameras in all vehicles? Did I miss something on that front after that time? I haven't kept up on that aspect of vehicles since I last purchased one.
April 30Apr 30 1 hour ago, thunderlounge said: I haven't seen this mentioned yet, granted I skipped the arguing back and forth crap. Didn't a requirement go into effect for the 2017 model year and beyond which required backup cameras in all vehicles? Did I miss something on that front after that time? I haven't kept up on that aspect of vehicles since I last purchased one. Idk, but I fucking love back up cameras. If you live somewhere with a lot of parallel parking, they are money.
April 30Apr 30 Pretty sure the bronco sport is an suv built on the maverick platform. Yep- and the escape. So there’s 2 suvs that are basically mavericks. Edited April 30Apr 30 by Pato del Muerto
April 30Apr 30 1 hour ago, thunderlounge said: I haven't seen this mentioned yet, granted I skipped the arguing back and forth crap. Didn't a requirement go into effect for the 2017 model year and beyond which required backup cameras in all vehicles? Did I miss something on that front after that time? I haven't kept up on that aspect of vehicles since I last purchased one. Not sure it was all vehicles. If it applies to the slate, then it will have one. When it says "no screen" they aren't referring to the little camera screen. And it definitively isn't a touch screen, which has got to be the most regarded, unsafe thing you can put in a car.
April 30Apr 30 35 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said: Pretty sure the bronco sport is an suv built on the maverick platform. Yep- and the escape. So there’s 2 suvs that are basically mavericks. it's actually the bronco sport and maverick built on the escape platform, which is the 4th generation focus platform. and the bronco sport has almost the same dimensions and angles as the OG escape, which was built off the mazda 626 platform if you go way back. /cool starry bra
April 30Apr 30 20 hours ago, Brisketexan said: A beige truck? With those wheels? I mean, putting a bumper sticker on there that says "PLEASE DO NOT HAVE SEX WITH ME" seems redundant, but if you wanna be super-sure, go for it. Beige. Rumor has it that is what a woman thinks about painting the ceiling, if she isn't being taken to pound town correctly. For the record our ceiling is white.
April 30Apr 30 15 hours ago, BurntEyes said: Not my personal experience at all. My experience is admittedly limited driving a family vehicle but the sound on the receiving end was fine in the calls I made. Have you ever actually ridden in one? The wind noise inside is near zero. Was his window rolled down? Does he have the same issue with everybody? Bit of a logic leap to conclude the wind noise is terrible in a vehicle based on a call with one friend is his work truck, but it that's Surly for you. Edit - but in fairness I've never gone 555 mph in one. So... mileage may vary. Ive been in it a few times but it was around town. Windows always up and he even mentioned that with a few customers he will pull over because they complain. Oh, and he added a supercharger and mid grade fuel so he could drive that fast.
April 30Apr 30 2 minutes ago, markstanco said: Ive been in it a few times but it was around town. Windows always up and he even mentioned that with a few customers he will pull over because they complain. Oh, and he added a supercharger and mid grade fuel so he could drive that fast. He might want to have it checked for a bad seal on the windshield.
April 30Apr 30 20 minutes ago, royiv said: He might want to have it checked for a bad seal on the windshield. Im starting to think the same thing listening to some of the others on here.
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