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How many of his passes were actually vertical downfield in this game and not to the sidelines? 

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today was easily his worst game of the season.  will need to be much better next week.

1 minute ago, Hook1997 said:

How many of his passes were actually vertical downfield in this game and not to the sidelines? 

Who fucking cares? He made enough completions to keep the chains moving and help us win the game. He didn't turn the ball over either. We didn't have a ton of possessions in this game, he did enough to come away with a win. If he forces the ball down the field and takes unnecessary risks, we might be talking about a loss right now.

He's average. When the team plays well, he's good enough to win. The team played quite well in the first half, not nearly as well in the second. Good on Sam for making the big 3rd down conversions when it counted on the last drive, though.

3 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Who fucking cares? He made enough completions to keep the chains moving and help us win the game. He didn't turn the ball over either. We didn't have a ton of possessions in this game, he did enough to come away with a win. If he forces the ball down the field and takes unnecessary risks, we might be talking about a loss right now.

Yea that doesn’t work against good defensive teams, that’s why we should care.  The chains didn’t enough in the second half.  Are we settling now for a qb that doesn’t throw well but doesn’t turn it over now...,  ok. 

Edited by Hook1997

Again, and forever, the problem isn't Sam, it's the offensive line. Dude's proven he's pretty accurate, he can run, don't know what else you want. He's probably better than Tebow was, if you judge by the numbers. Maybe he needs to love Jesus more.

Edited by Thetexashammer

Just now, Hook1997 said:

Yea that doesn’t work against good defensive teams, that’s why we should care.  The chains didn’t enough in the second half.  

K State is good on D. They suck because they can't put any points on the board. 

They're probably better on D at home than OU will be in Dallas. 

Just now, Thetexashammer said:

Again, and forever, the problem isn't Sam, it's the offensive line. Dude's proven he's pretty accurate, he can run, don't know what else you want.

This is completely incorrect Mrs. Elhinger

1 minute ago, Thetexashammer said:

Again, and forever, the problem isn't Sam, it's the offensive line. Dude's proven he's pretty accurate, he can run, don't know what else you want. He's probably better than Tebow was, if you judge by the numbers. Maybe he needs to love Jesus more.

Does this guy watch the same games as us?  Yea he’s accurate in lateral passes.....

1 minute ago, Poolflood said:

This is completely incorrect Mrs. Elhinger

Let's not pretend the O line was great today. Ehlinger had some missed opportunities with errant balls but had good pocket presence the entire game. No turnovers. 

If we had David Ash we'd be ahead by 21 right now. 
One of my favorite memories from the David Ash era is beating Kansas State by 3 touchdowns.
4 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Again, and forever, the problem isn't Sam, it's the offensive line. Dude's proven he's pretty accurate, he can run, don't know what else you want.

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2 minutes ago, satyanash said:

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So let's be clear. He hit 80% of his passes, and your response is "but he missed one"? That's really what you're saying?

6 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Yea that doesn’t work against good defensive teams, that’s why we should care.  The chains didn’t enough in the second half.  Are we settling now for a qb that doesn’t throw well but doesn’t turn it over now...,  ok. 

Sam isn't a good QB. But he's currently a net positive. He's making smart plays even if he isn't capable of hitting all the throws consistently.

He's keeping the seat warm which will help us recruit better talent in the long run. 

Sam through 5 games:

1,185 passing

64.7% 

9 TDs / 2 INTs 

153 rushing 

3 TDs

Good efficiency, mediocre production. The lack of turnovers has been the biggest net positive. 

He's playing good if he hits those other throws, he would be playing amazing. We need him to play amazing in order to beat the likes of OU and West Virginia this year.

10 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Again, and forever, the problem isn't Sam, it's the offensive line. Dude's proven he's pretty accurate, he can run, don't know what else you want. He's probably better than Tebow was, if you judge by the numbers. Maybe he needs to love Jesus more.

Yep, the OL was below average and awful when they put Shackelford in the game. The running game only exists due to the greatness of a hobbled Ingram, and the tenacity of Watson. 

Just now, HtownHorn said:

Yep, the OL was below average and awful when they put Shackelford in the game. The running game only exists due to the greatness of a hobbled Ingram, and the tenacity of Watson. 

Yea, it was crazy how quickly the offensive line fell apart when Shack went in. We need our OL to stay healthy

Ehlinger led our offense to one fucking touchdown today. That's not going to get it done against any halfway decent team

1 minute ago, DreadHead said:

He's playing good if he hits those other throws, he would be playing amazing. We need him to play amazing in order to beat the likes of OU and West Virginia this year.

You mean the ones down field vertically, those.  Just saw on the after show C. Johnson tied his career high for TD in a season 3..   That’s a travesty, I’m just so tired of not having a qb.  If we get down against OU hopefully Shane gets a chance and hit those deep throws like he did as a freshman 

12 minutes ago, ztejas said:

K State is good on D. They suck because they can't put any points on the board. 

They're probably better on D at home than OU will be in Dallas. 

Their secondary is also the strength of their team, and they sat in cover 2 all game long.

Bitches gonna bitch. Who the shit cares. 4-1. 1st time we've won at K-State in what, forever.

Enjoy the win against a program that has dominated us at there home for what twenty years. If this is one his worse games and we win, I will take it.

1 minute ago, ckhorn said:

Bitches gonna bitch. Who the shit cares. 4-1. 1st time we've won at K-State in what, forever.

Enjoy the win against a program that has dominated us at there home for what twenty years. If this is one his worse games and we win, I will take it.

1 offensive touchdown. The natives have good reason to be restless.

15 minutes ago, BoomMF said:

Meadoker

I think this completely made up word summarizes it best for me.

8 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Sam through 5 games:

1,185 passing

64.7% 

9 TDs / 2 INTs 

153 rushing 

3 TDs

Not great numbers for a QB in a spread offense. Not these days. Strictly average

Edited by satyanash

2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Which are mediocre numbers.

Sam is an idiot savant.

Does what he's supposed to do, occasionally has some brilliant passes, in between there are a goodly amount of really crappy ones.

@IDIOTsavant is Sam Ehlinger?

Edited by Machinator

Just now, BurntEyes said:

We can enjoy the win and express concern at the same time.

Not sure if you were aware, but there is a pretty big game next weekend.

Where?

8 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Sam through 5 games:

1,185 passing

64.7% 

9 TDs / 2 INTs 

153 rushing 

3 TDs

Sam's not mediocre at all.  He's good and getting better.  Still rough around the edges and misses some throws. He's completing a good percentage, protecting the ball well.  Overall his passing is OK, but add in his ability to run and move the chains makes him a good step above average.  

I will agree that he looked more off this week than he has this year. If this was his bad game I will take it and the win. Not expecting a 25-30 performance, but a win at a difficult place. Lets hope he saved his big game for next week and crush the midget bugler.

2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Dallas.

He's making fun of you.

whoosh 

24 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Who fucking cares? He made enough completions to keep the chains moving and help us win the game. He didn't turn the ball over either. We didn't have a ton of possessions in this game, he did enough to come away with a win. If he forces the ball down the field and takes unnecessary risks, we might be talking about a loss right now.

The offense scored 10 points.  I'd say it was more along for the ride than a contributor to the win.

20 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Again, and forever, the problem isn't Sam, it's the offensive line. Dude's proven he's pretty accurate, he can run, don't know what else you want. He's probably better than Tebow was, if you judge by the numbers. Maybe he needs to love Jesus more.

He's not better than Tebow and Tebow was wildly overrated.  This board used to understand that but now many people seem to aspire to having our own.

Not his best game, but we won. We tend to win with him playing QB. Hes SCRAPPY as the coaches say. Dude caught a batted ball and took off with it full speed trying to get the first down.

Against OU, I think he can have his coming out party. We got A TON of talent at receiver. He just needs to connect on some deep balls like he did against USC and TCU. Once their shit-tier defense is on their heels, we run it strait down their fucking ass. Then we run it some more. Then some more. 

4 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Dallas.

What team?

Just now, Zavala said:

Not his best game, but we won. We tend to win with him playing QB. Hes SCRAPPY as the coaches say. Dude caught a batted ball and took off with it full speed trying to get the first down.

Against OU, I think he can have his coming out party. We got A TON of talent at receiver. He just needs to connect on some deep balls like he did against USC and TCU. Once their shit-tier defense is on their heels, we run it strait down their fucking ass. Then we run it some more. Then some more. 

You have to remember you're talking to a group a few weeks ago that was complaining about him throwing deep too much.

5 minutes ago, Machinator said:

@IDIOTsavant is Sam Ehlinger?

No. Retardation with general flashes of brilliance don't really qualify. It's mastery of a single area. Sam has not yet mastered football.

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Two teams.

A foosball game?

3 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Not his best game, but we won. We tend to win with him playing QB. Hes SCRAPPY as the coaches say. Dude caught a batted ball and took off with it full speed trying to get the first down.

Against OU, I think he can have his coming out party. We got A TON of talent at receiver. He just needs to connect on some deep balls like he did against USC and TCU. Once their shit-tier defense is on their heels, we run it strait down their fucking ass. Then we run it some more. Then some more. 

Scrappy is the wrong word. Case McCoy was scrappy. Major Applewhite was scrappy. 

Sam is a baller. Just like Tebow or Johnny. 

He does stupid shit and is kind of inconsistent but he makes plays. He's the best athlete we've had at QB since Vince. 

1 minute ago, ckhorn said:

A foosball game?

Can both of you shut the fuck up 

And can someone kick the shit out of OSU tonight.

He's dumb as a fucking brick, but he's got good natural talent and a nice arm when his feet are set. Hopefully the dumbness goes away as he continues to mature - he's been less backbreaking this year post-Maryland.

7 minutes ago, WBT said:

He's not better than Tebow and Tebow was wildly overrated.  This board used to understand that but now many people seem to aspire to having our own.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tim-tebow-1.html

Tebow had 9.3 yards per attempt for his career and 66% for his career. I don't remember him ever having been a good passer, but that's a damn good number. Sam doesn't have that. 

Tebow had a national championship team surrounding him from cradle to grave, so I suspect that's the difference. Visually he's about like Tebow, but a better passer. Best since Colt, no doubt.

Edited by Thetexashammer

Just now, texifornia said:

He's dumb as a fucking brick, but he's got good natural talent and a nice arm when his feet are set. Hopefully the dumbness goes away as he continues to mature - he's been less backbreaking this year post-Maryland.

When he was hitting TTU and OSU players between the numbers late in the 4th quarter I would have agreed that he's dumb.  Not perfect but he's not made many "dumb" plays this year.

They'll have to find a way to get Sam more time against OU, but they'll have him practicing long balls all week long.

Orland will have to get his D to kick it up another notch.  That OU qb is deadly accurate.

21 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Yep, the OL was below average and awful when they put Shackelford in the game. The running game only exists due to the greatness of a hobbled Ingram, and the tenacity of Watson. 

Plus low fucking snaps.

3 minutes ago, Lhorn said:

When he was hitting TTU and OSU players between the numbers late in the 4th quarter I would have agreed that he's dumb.  Not perfect but he's not made many "dumb" plays this year.

Yeah, I think I feel that way because he doesn't throw regular incompletions. They're always pure "wtf dude?" moments where the ball is 5 yards away from wide open guys. Statistically he looks pretty great this year.

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