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Just now, Spider2YBanana said:

I guess we'll just have to look at our guy going out and getting the job done, vs a guy who's talented and gets drafted. 

Is beating UGA the epitome of getting the job done?  If that's the measuring stick than yeah Sam has scoreboard there.

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Just now, Gene Parmesan said:

Is beating UGA the epitome of getting the job done?  If that's the measuring stick than yeah Sam has scoreboard there.

As a true sophomore with less talented players and season two of an offense? I'd say that's a pretty indicator that he's trending up. Baker got to be with Lincoln for almost 5 years. Sam had Tom for 2. 

You've convinced me.  Baker is alright and all, but clearly Sam is on the superior trajectory and the only thing that can derail him are things outside of his control so they don't really count.

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Just now, Gene Parmesan said:

You've convinced me.  Bakers alright and all, but clearly Sam is on the superior trajectory and the only thing that can derail him are things outside of his control so they don't really count.

I think you're reading too much into what I'm saying. Obviously Baker is talented, and ou was lucky to have him. It doesn't make me wrong because I would rather have Sam as my qb. It has zero to do with Baker going to ou. None. Had you asked me last year I would have told you Baker. This year # I'm happy Sam is growing and beat a team Baker and ou couldn't. Why is that wrong?

Mayfield is a douchebag loser who acts like an insecure teenage girl, but he did win three conference championships.

No, I don't care about the Heisman but I do care about conference championships.

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I have no criticism of Baker's game.  Dude balls and balls hard.

Now, in the flaming douchebag category?

Yeah, very few hold a candle (Manziel peeks around the corner) and Sam ain't even in the same galaxy.

Sam will get his chance at some CCs. One step at a time. He's a true sophomore with a sugar bowl win under his belt. It can only go up from there. 

The only difference between Baker and Sam is that Baker is a complete asshole and Sam is a genuinely good guy.

Just now, TexArcher said:

The only difference between Baker and Sam is that Baker is a complete asshole and Sam is a genuinely good guy.

This.

7 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Baker got to be with Lincoln for almost 5 years.

Sure, if we define "almost 5" as "3".  Riley showed up at Oklahoma in January, 2015.  Mayfield wrapped up his college career in January, 2018.  Riley was at East Carolina when Mayfield was at Texas Tech.

When I said between the ears, I didn't mean Sam has a higher football IQ. I meant it saying Sam wins with less talent than Baker, but he's not an asshole and wins. He's like 20 years old right now, and Baker was 23 when he was drafted. 

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Sure, if we define "almost 5" as "3".  Riley showed up at Oklahoma in January, 2015.  Mayfield wrapped up his college career in January, 2018.  Riley was at East Carolina when Mayfield was at Texas Tech.

OK. I didn't realize you were an OU fan. 

6 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

OK. I didn't realize you were an OU fan. 

We all need to know when to just walk away.

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7 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

I think you're reading too much into what I'm saying. Obviously Baker is talented, and ou was lucky to have him. It doesn't make me wrong because I would rather have Sam as my qb. It has zero to do with Baker going to ou. None. Had you asked me last year I would have told you Baker. This year # I'm happy Sam is growing and beat a team Baker and ou couldn't. Why is that wrong?

Nothing, but winning conference championships trumps beating UGA in a non playoff Sugar Bowl.  It's not like he's got nothing to show for his time at OU.  Your argument that Sam in year 2 is better than Baker at year 2 is valid (since Baker was sitting out), but not everyone makes the leaps that Baker made in years 3,4, and 5.  And we won't even be seeing a 5th year for Sam.

Just now, Gene Parmesan said:

Nothing, but winning conference championships trumps beating UGA in a non playoff Sugar Bowl.  It's not like he's got nothing to show for his time at OU.  Your argument that Sam in year 2 is better than Baker at year 2 is valid (since Baker was sitting out), but not everyone makes the leaps that Baker made in years 3,4, and 5.  And we won't even be seeing a 5th year for Sam.

I never said Sam is better than Baker in year two. I've done nothing but praise him for being talented. All I said was I would rather have Sam as my qb, and now you and your buddy just can't fathom someone wanting a kid who has faced adversity his entire life vs a guy who has everything given to him. Obviously they're both talented but different QB's, and I'd still take Sam this year over Baker. 

It's the day after we won the Sugar Bowl. Get BM the fuck out of this thread.

15 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

I never said Sam is better than Baker in year two. I've done nothing but praise him for being talented. All I said was I would rather have Sam as my qb, and now you and your buddy just can't fathom someone wanting a kid who has faced adversity his entire life vs a guy who has everything given to him.\

I never said anything of the sort.  I'm also not an OU fan -- I'm a fan of facts.

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

I never said anything of the sort.  I'm also not an OU fan -- I'm a fan of facts.

I think you just like to nit pick and argue for the sake of arguing, nothing more.

26 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

All I said was I would rather have Sam as my qb, and now you and your buddy just can't fathom someone wanting a kid who has faced adversity his entire life vs a guy who has everything given to him. 

I hate that douche bag Baker Mayfield as much as anyone, but the dude had to walk on at Tech then prove himself again at Oklahoma. I don't think the guy had anything handed to him that he didn't earn and that includes that Arkansas cop decking him. 

1 hour ago, Spider2YBanana said:

I don't care about the NFL. Baker hasn't accomplished anything, other than getting drafted. I think Baker is immensely talented, but I would still take Sam's grit over Baker. I don't hate the kid at all. I'm glad he's living his dream, but he's a spoiled pussy who has everything handed to him on a platter, and Sam goes out and wins as a sophomore and less talented team.

Guy walked on at Tech. First true freshman walk-on to ever start an opener at QB in FBS history. Then he walked on at OU and won the job there. 

But sure, other than that (and a Heisman, and a ROY), he’s just been handed everything on a platter 🙄

Edit: Beaten to it. Anyway, the fact that he’s a douchebag doesn’t negate all that.

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I'm certainly more proud to have a QB with character like Sam representing my alma mater, than a douche nozzle like Mayfield. 

But, fuck, Mayfield can flat out play.  To insinuate that Sam is at or approaching his level of ball is....not accurate.  But, he keeps getting better and better, so who knows where he'll end up when all is said and done. 

 

7 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I hate that douche bag Baker Mayfield as much as anyone, but the dude had to walk on at Tech then prove himself again at Oklahoma. I don't think the guy had anything handed to him that he didn't earn and that includes that Arkansas cop decking him. 

True. I was speaking more towards the end, not the beginning. Not to mention he really hasn't faced adversity, other than walking on and having a new rule about transferring.

3 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

Guy walked on at Tech. First true freshman walk-on to ever start an opener at QB in FBS history. Then he walked on at OU and won the job there. 

But sure, other than that (and a Heisman, and a ROY), he’s just been handed everything on a platter 🙄

Edit: Beaten to it. Anyway, the fact that he’s a douchebag doesn’t negate all that.

Don't care. Sam beat UGA when ou couldn't. Sam is a true sophomore. The Heisman is meaningless. He's not ROY...yet. But yeah, he walked on at tech and had a new rule made for him. Must be a tough life. 

2 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

True. I was speaking more towards the end, not the beginning. Not to mention he really hasn't faced adversity, other than walking on and having a new rule about transferring.

would you shut the fuck up, please?

2 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I'm certainly more proud to have a QB with character like Sam representing my alma mater, than a douche nozzle like Mayfield. 

But, fuck, Mayfield can flat out play.  To insinuate that Sam is at or approaching his level of ball is....not accurate.  But, he keeps getting better and better, so who knows where he'll end up when all is said and done. 

 

Well, no. They're two different types of QB's. They play differently, and have different offensive systems. Baker is a talented dude, but I feel good about Sam going forward.

All this talk about Mayfield, fuck that noise.

Ehlinger is much closer to Penn State’s Trace McSorely, but Sam has a shitton more talent. 

1 minute ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Don't care. Sam beat UGA when ou couldn't. Sam is a true sophomore. The Heisman is meaningless. He's not ROY...yet. But yeah, he walked on at tech and had a new rule made for him. Must be a tough life. 

“He has everything handed to him on a platter.”

Except, you know, a scholarship.

Oh, and Mayfield won multiple conference titles, if you want to play the comparison game.

Im going to stop defending him now, because it’s gross. But you’re just factually wrong.

15 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

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Got the one of Sam pulling the Houdini act and scrambling for 15 yards? I think it was in the third quarter.

5 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Got the one of Sam pulling the Houdini act and scrambling for 15 yards? I think it was in the third quarter.

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9 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Got the one of Sam pulling the Houdini act and scrambling for 15 yards? I think it was in the third quarter.

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I keep thinking of that series that was first and goal from the 1. Sam ran it 4 times in a row, and got beaten up on every single one of the runs, but still punched it in. That last run, Georgia actually had him in the backfield about a yard shy of the goal -- they actually went shotgun on a QB keeper at 1st and goal. Sam juked one defender then stretched and willed past the goal line.

What a badass play.

3 minutes ago, BigXII said:

I keep thinking of that series that was first and goal from the 1. Sam ran it 4 times in a row, and got beaten up on every single one of the runs, but still punched it in. That last run, Georgia actually had him in the backfield about a yard shy of the goal -- they actually went shotgun on a QB keeper at 1st and goal. Sam juked one defender then stretched and willed past the goal line.

What a badass play.

got u fam

 

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5 minutes ago, BigXII said:

I keep thinking of that series that was first and goal from the 1. Sam ran it 4 times in a row, and got beaten up on every single one of the runs, but still punched it in. That last run, Georgia actually had him in the backfield about a yard shy of the goal -- they actually went shotgun on a QB keeper at 1st and goal. Sam juked one defender then stretched and willed past the goal line.

What a badass play.

and thus "Go Fuck Yourself Bitch" 

6 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

got u fam

 

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You literally see the rubber pellets fly up.  It like Maverick hitting the brakes and the defender flys right by.

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17 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

got u fam

 

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Holy shit Daniel Young on that play. That "go fuck yourself bitch" mentality

30 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

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How does this even make sense? Sam didn't see him coming.  He sees the future before it happens....that's the only reasonable explanation.

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

Mayfield is a douchebag loser who acts like an insecure teenage girl, but he did win three conference championships.

No, I don't care about the Heisman but I do care about conference championships.

Baker for being a world class athlete and excellent QB, is an insecure little bitch.

Mayfield has moves that Sam can't touch...and wouldn't even with a 10 foot pole.

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