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#12401
10 hours ago, goathumper said:

Staff seems to be either bad or not equipped to find bargains in the portal

We're shopping for the bbq at Central Market, not Sam's Club

Depth will come later. We're taking moon shots currently and will back fill the roster as the semester progresses imo

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#12402
1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

This is starting to sound like the board did when yall were fed that nfl practice model is the way by 995ers and their sources in the program. Now you’re being fed the nfl roster model is the way….

Key difference is nfl backups are still some of the best college players where as we can’t say that about the backups we will have

Back-ups are back-ups. Whether they were once one of the best college players does not matter. They are generally below NFL starter level players. That is the same as college back-ups, they are generally below starter level. In either situation you are not likely to make the playoffs, if you have to rely on back-ups due to injuries.

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#12403
2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Back-ups are back-ups. Whether they were once one of the best college players does not matter. They are generally below NFL starter level players. That is the same as college back-ups, they are generally below starter level.

Quality backups and depth matter. We will be operating on razor thin margins.

#12404
3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Quality backups and depth matter. We will be operating on razor thin margins.

This.

People are looking at the username and ignoring the correct take. Sure, Texas could move to an NFL style roster with fewer players, but those players better be ready to contribute when needed. That's not the case, at least right now. There is basically no proven OL depth past the starting players. Shit, the projected starting five isn't proven at this point.

Will Texas add OL players - yes, they will. But if it's a bunch of bread, they're arguably in a worse spot at OL than even this past season. Sikorski isn't some OL revelation; he's a gamble at this point.

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#12405
8 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

This.

People are looking at the username and ignoring the correct take. Sure, Texas could move to an NFL style roster with fewer players, but those players better be ready to contribute when needed. That's not the case, at least right now. There is basically no proven depth past the starting players. Shit, the projected starting five isn't proven at this point.

Will Texas add OL players - yes, they will. But if it's a bunch of bread, they're arguably in a worse spot at OL than even this past season.

Is the NFL roster approach a strategy that we are taking or is it the new reality of college football?

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#12406
29 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

So you’re saying that our backups will not be the best college players. Interesting.

Or they will transfer to Kentucky, CU, Nevada, ASU, etc.

#12407

As evidenced in the playoffs this year, you need rotational depth on defense where 20+ players are getting regular snaps.

On offense you just have to pray to the injury gods because as @Codaxx mentioned, any team is 2-3 key offensive injuries away for not being a competitor regardless of what their depth chart looks like on that side of the ball.

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#12408
19 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Quality backups and depth matter. We will be operating on razor thin margins.

Can you cite a single team that has quality, starter level quality depth across their roster?

#12409
1 minute ago, JBJ said:

Is the NFL roster approach a strategy that we are taking or is it the new reality of college football?

Remains to be seen... but it appears things are heading that way, at least in terms of capital allocation. Roster spots will be utilized, but a third of it might be guys who basically get nothing and are cheap development/"break glass in case of emergency" types.

#12410
28 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

Depth will come later. We're taking moon shots currently and will back fill the roster as the semester progresses imo

They better hurry up. Last day to enroll is Jan 20th

#12411
4 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Is the NFL roster approach a strategy that we are taking or is it the new reality of college football?

NFL has practice squad and free agents to sign, college does not. Going into a season without Oline depth in college is really dumb.

#12412
1 minute ago, Newy25 said:

Can you cite a single team that has quality, starter level quality depth across their roster?

Plenty of teams have seven or so quality OL they can depend on. Currently, Texas has three.

That's the argument here.

#12413

Anyone speaking with certainty about what happens after the portal closes on Friday is fooling themselves. Nobody knows what it’s going to look like when thousands of players, many of whom tasted real playing time last year, find themselves homeless.

Maybe these players stand firm in their requests, or maybe these kids get spooked and settle for well below their value just to find a landing spot. I think we will look back at whoever best manages this (since we love comparing to the NFL) “undrafted free agent” period as the big winners of this new landscape.

#12414
3 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Is the NFL roster approach a strategy that we are taking or is it the new reality of college football?

Either pay has to come down or roster sizes cannot get larger. Seems unlikely star players will take a pay cut, so capping rosters seems inevitable. I do not think Texas will ever get to 53 man roster, but NFL teams carry 70 with practice players. Given nature of having younger players, College will likely have larger rosters. Is that number 75 or 85, who knows.

#12415
4 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

They better hurry up. Last day to enroll is Jan 20th

Almost zero chance there aren't additional depth pieces added for summer sessions to get all of fall practice in, especially this year as players realize there aren't great options for all of them.

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#12416
7 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

NFL has practice squad and free agents to sign, college does not.

Not Yet No GIF

#12417
10 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Plenty of teams have seven or so quality OL they can depend on. Currently, Texas has three.

That's the argument here.

Who? In today’s ‘portal era’, which college program has 7 quality OL they can depend on at any time?

#12418
10 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Plenty of teams have seven or so quality OL they can depend on. Currently, Texas has three.

That's the argument here.

Plenty? Name them. I seriously doubt there are very many teams that right now have 7 "proven" OL who would satisfy Surly locked up for 2026.

#12419
1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Plenty? Name them. I seriously doubt there are very many teams that right now have 7 "proven" OL who would satisfy Surly locked up for 2026.

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#12421
1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Who? In today’s ‘portal era’, which college program has 7 quality OL they can depend on at any time?

The college landscape is changing in real time and there are people who think it’s only happening to Texas. The reality is we do not know yet in this landscape what the best roster solution is. Despite knowing we have as many resources as anyone there are people on this thread thinking we have adopted some new disastrous strategy.

#12422
2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Plenty? Name them. I seriously doubt there are very many teams that right now have 7 "proven" OL who would satisfy Surly locked up for 2026.

I didn’t say proven, I said quality. Right now our OL is razor thing and the depth isn’t quality. As much as I don’t think he’s a good player Cole Hutson is a quality backup, Goosby was a quality backup as well. Who are those versions in this roster?

#12423
Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Ohio state in 2024 did when their line was ravaged by injuries and ended up better than it started for one.

It’s a good thing nothing has changed in college football and NIL in two years. I ask you again, who else out there going into 2026 that has quality, starter level depth across their roster?

#12424
13 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

NFL has practice squad and free agents to sign, college does not. Going into a season without Oline depth in college is really dumb.

The problem we are running up against is that every player in college has an eligibility clock that is ticking. The 3rd OT on an NFL roster may wish he was starting, but at the end of the day, he’s already in the league and getting paid.

I’m sure we can pay backup OL a fair rate, but we’re also asking them to burn a year of eligibility in return, which is very valuable to these guys.

#12425
2 minutes ago, tokamak said:

The problem we are running up against is that every player in college has an eligibility clock that is ticking.

The coaches just proposed 9 games for a redshirt. I am not joking. (It has to pass though)

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#12426
6 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


We have 12 offensive linemen right now. We should carry 16 every year, minimum. I'm thinking we need a backup center, two LEGIT guards, and another tackle for depth.

I’ll have to make this a project for the spring after all the portal dust has settled, but there is almost no way the big boy programs are going to be carrying 16+ scholarship OL in this era unless the bottom couple spots are occupied by Max Merril types.

You want to head into a season with 8 guys who can play in a pinch. Any team in college football who has to go past that number is screwed. Like a NFL team who loses 2-3 OL starters is likely screwed regardless of who is on the practice squad or waiver wire.

So we have 3 starters returning + Oregon State guy (you telling me this guy can’t go out there and do something similar to what Cole Hutson did for 4 years? Hutson was our worst starter). I would hope that Cojoe and Chatman could be included in the 8 considering they’ve been in the program for 4 years. If not, why are they still here? So that leaves 2 spots to fill in the next few weeks that can be added to the circle of trust. Anything after that is a bonus.

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#12427
4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The coaches just proposed 9 games for a redshirt. I am not joking. (It has to pass though)

No clue why the NCAA didn’t pass the blanket 5 years of eligibility rule floated last year. Guess it is too simple and makes too much sense.

#12428
31 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Quality backups and depth matter. We will be operating on razor thin margins.

Depth matters but saying NFL back-ups are different because they were great college players is silly. That is like saying college back-ups are different because they were great high school players. Let's not pretend that the vast majority of football teams are impervious to injuries. 99.9% of teams will see their season blow up if a couple key injuries happen. The difference with smaller rosters is it will hurt Blue Bloods abilities to amass talent, not to field a 2 deep. It is going to be extremely difficult to stash a guy away for 2-3 years before he makes a contribution. The bottom 15-20 developmental guys that were not going to see the field are the one that are going to be most affected.

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#12429
14 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Who? In today’s ‘portal era’, which college program has 7 quality OL they can depend on at any time?

13 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Plenty? Name them. I seriously doubt there are very many teams that right now have 7 "proven" OL who would satisfy Surly locked up for 2026.

10 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I didn’t say proven, I said quality. Right now our OL is razor thing and the depth isn’t quality. As much as I don’t think he’s a good player Cole Hutson is a quality backup, Goosby was a quality backup as well. Who are those versions in this roster?

Maybe “proven” was the wrong word. “Quality” is better. I’m not saying seven surefire starters at any given school. I’m saying seven guys you can trust. That is typically what a championship-caliber team has. Again, Texas, right now, has three.

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#12430

The stupid is contagious here. It’s insane.

We have seen, from prior years!, that the final enrollment date, @JesusSweatDuck , for a semester does not matter. There are exceptions. So why create a false premise? Does it move the conversation forward?

As to the NFL roster or practice stuff, most of that was discussed in the offseason and preseason threads on the football board, and many of us here were not in favor of it. It wasn’t discussed in any depth on the $9.95er forum and BO&W is being disingenuous with his bullshit fucking claims otherwise. The idea he’s conveying in his comments right now is that he gets it and we’re otherwise in fantasyland does not deserve any further oxygen. I’m convinced he posts while wearing clown makeup.

The continued panicking over OL depth here is nauseating. Texas is still working on some big answers to their rotation and then will sign, as with other positions, guys who can fill in the roster. Barring catastrophe for any team, no one is reaching regularly into their 3 deep for help at any position, OL and otherwise. This stupid fucking lamentation that Texas should have starter quality experience and depth behind, you know, the starters, is ridiculous and some sort of new portal horror porn kink for a bunch of you guys coming off as rubes.

Right here in this thread a new phenomenon in CFB fandom can be witnessed. People are now panicking when the concept of playing a younger player to replace a starter is floated. New starters developed on the roster after being recruited to the school is how starting talent has been replaced for 150 fucking years. Now? Unacceptable. No talent recruited into the program can become a starter. If Texas loses a starter to the NFL, by gawd, he better be replaced from the portal with proven starter talent from the P4. If that isn’t the case, then Texas doesn’t give a fuck about winning and is happy being mediocre.

Why even have a recruiting board with this level of hivemind idiotic thinking?

#12431

The issue is what 'quality' means for Texas, Georgia, Michigan...etc.

There's really only about 60 quality OL in cfb total by our standard. Getting 8-9 of those guys seems like a fool's errand.

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#12432
19 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

It’s a good thing nothing has changed in college football and NIL in two years. I ask you again, who else out there going into 2026 that has quality, starter level depth across their roster?

10 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Depth matters but saying NFL back-ups are different because they were great college players is silly. That is like saying college back-ups are different because they were great high school players. Let's not pretend that the vast majority of football teams are impervious to injuries. 99.9% of teams will see their season blow up if a couple key injuries happen. The difference with smaller rosters is it will hurt Blue Bloods abilities to amass talent, not to field a 2 deep. It is going to be extremely difficult to stash a guy away for 2-3 years before he makes a contribution. The bottom 15-20 developmental guys that were not going to see the field are the one that are going to be most affected.

You guys are giving that absolute buffoon what he craves, attention. You’re helping legitimize his stupid fucking whining points and it's bandwidth drain. He’s a clown and you are all trending there by engaging with him on this stupid shit. “We need starter quality depth several levels deep on the OL or we don’t care about winning. “ Super realistic.

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#12433
4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Why even have a recruiting board with this level of hivemind idiotic thinking?

Anti-Pluribus

This hive mind is just full of idiocracy-level analysis, instead of all the happiness

a woman in a red top is sitting at a table with a glass of water and a man .

#12434

It will be interesting to see what shakes out with stats in 2026. Not just for Texas, but across the land. If sack, pressure and INT rates go up and YPC drop, it logically might point to a lack of continuity in many teams' OLs. Same with any rise in those dreaded pre-snap flags and holding calls. OL guys who transfer but miss the window for spring ball are only going to be at more of a disadvantage getting into the flow by Game 1.

#12436
2 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

It will be interesting to see what shakes out with stats in 2026. Not just for Texas, but across the land. If sack, pressure and INT rates go up and YPC drop, it logically might point to a lack of continuity in many teams' OLs. Same with any rise in those dreaded pre-snap flags and holding calls. OL guys who transfer but miss the window for spring ball are only going to be at more of a disadvantage getting into the flow by Game 1.

I think we'll see OL and CB development on the decline. I think we already see it at QB.

#12437
3 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

It will be interesting to see what shakes out with stats in 2026. Not just for Texas, but across the land. If sack, pressure and INT rates go up and YPC drop, it logically might point to a lack of continuity in many teams' OLs. Same with any rise in those dreaded pre-snap flags and holding calls. OL guys who transfer but miss the window for spring ball are only going to be at more of a disadvantage getting into the flow by Game 1.

This is the one area I am really interested in tracking. We always talk about how many starts it requires for an OL to gel, and if this current high-turnover transfer portal free-for-all continues, does it impact more intricate offenses? Do we see a desire for more "simple" schemes in the run game? Do we accept a higher rate of mistakes on the OL? Do teams move away from complex zone blocking schemes in favor something else?

Most of the offensive positions are plug and play and can have a high level of yearly flux, but, in the current design, OL takes time to "cook". What happens when that isnt the norm any more?

#12438

I haven't seen it mentioned yet but maybe I missed it: Caleb Herring, rotational OLB at Tennessee, is visiting this weekend. Looks like Plan B for Wendell Gregory.

#12439

I don't recall if it's been addressed because this thread is an off-the-rails flaming turdwagon, but are players going to be contractually obligated to participate in post-season games with these new contracts?

#12440
22 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The stupid is contagious here. It’s insane.

We have seen, from prior years!, that the final enrollment date, @JesusSweatDuck , for a semester does not matter. There are exceptions. So why create a false premise? Does it move the conversation forward?

As to the NFL roster or practice stuff, most of that was discussed in the offseason and preseason threads on the football board, and many of us here were not in favor of it. It wasn’t discussed in any depth on the $9.95er forum and BO&W is being disingenuous with his bullshit fucking claims otherwise. The idea he’s conveying in his comments right now is that he gets it and we’re otherwise in fantasyland does not deserve any further oxygen. I’m convinced he posts while wearing clown makeup.

The continued panicking over OL depth here is nauseating. Texas is still working on some big answers to their rotation and then will sign, as with other positions, guys who can fill in the roster. Barring catastrophe for any team, no one is reaching regularly into their 3 deep for help at any position, OL and otherwise. This stupid fucking lamentation that Texas should have starter quality experience and depth behind, you know, the starters, is ridiculous and some sort of new portal horror porn kink for a bunch of you guys coming off as rubes.

Right here in this thread a new phenomenon in CFB fandom can be witnessed. People are now panicking when the concept of playing a younger player to replace a starter is floated. New starters developed on the roster after being recruited to the school is how starting talent has been replaced for 150 fucking years. Now? Unacceptable. No talent recruited into the program can become a starter. If Texas loses a starter to the NFL, by gawd, he better be replaced from the portal with proven starter talent from the P4. If that isn’t the case, then Texas doesn’t give a fuck about winning and is happy being mediocre.

Why even have a recruiting board with this level of hivemind idiotic thinking?

This is perfect. The only thing you left out is that we have a bunch of simpletons that also panic when a non-starter goes into the portal... because he was starter quality depth... But they also said that same player was shit and that if we relied on them as a backup that we are not all in and we are not serious about winning. It's maddening.

#12441

Fucking Georgia - you know, the team that has recruited and retained top talent from 2018 until about two weeks ago - couldn’t figure out how to block anybody after their C Bobo went down late in the year. But yeah, we should have 10 starting caliber guys at all times on the OL. What the fuck are we doing!

#12442
12 hours ago, Eggo said:

Fuck you for using Central Market in a derogatory manner.

I've read his post 3 times and I'm not even sure where the insult is...Central market is bad? Sam's Club is good? For BBQ? Who goes out of their way for BBQ at either of those places? Sam's Club even serves BBQ, because I wouldn't know because I'm not poor. Is he talking about buying just the meat to cook at home? If so who cares if the home pit master is a wizard?

12 hours ago, goathumper said:

There are positions like guard and linebacker where having experienced and reliable depth can be just as good as having one big star at the position.

Instead of scouting and building a healthy list of players on other rosters that can meet the baseline of protecting Arch, the staff seems to put together a small list of future NFL guys they thought they could money whip into coming here. It's a lazier and much more risky strategy

So you're saying having a 2 deep of mediocre can be better than having Anthony Hill. Got it.

12 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

Quit saying this shit. We don’t now that it is. There are clearly SOME expectations for him to stay for his Sr year from his family.

It's his last fucking year. Stop quoting his fucking grandpa as "some family expectations" when Arch himself came out and said "I don't know why he'd say that." His parents, everyone who knows anything, has heard the 20-25 collegiate games before the NFL.
I'm not saying this to be harsh. I'm simply trying to prepare you, emotionally, for what is inevitable.

#12443
31 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Maybe “proven” was the wrong word. “Quality” is better. I’m not saying seven surefire starters at any given school. I’m saying seven guys you can trust. That is typically what a championship-caliber team has. Again, Texas, right now, has three.

Alright, which schools have 7 quality OL?

Not giving you shit, genuinely curious to hear your thoughts. I’m pressed to think of many (maybe ND, Mich, or Utah?)

#12444
2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I've read his post 3 times and I'm not even sure where the insult is...Central market is bad? Sam's Club is good? For BBQ? Who goes out of their way for BBQ at either of those places? Sam's Club even serves BBQ, because I wouldn't know because I'm not poor. Is he talking about buying just the meat to cook at home? If so who cares if the home pit master is a wizard?

I thought the warehouse stores were known for having higher quality butcher sections, so I am lost as well.

#12445
31 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The stupid is contagious here. It’s insane.

We have seen, from prior years!, that the final enrollment date, @JesusSweatDuck , for a semester does not matter. There are exceptions. So why create a false premise? Does it move the conversation forward?

As to the NFL roster or practice stuff, most of that was discussed in the offseason and preseason threads on the football board, and many of us here were not in favor of it. It wasn’t discussed in any depth on the $9.95er forum and BO&W is being disingenuous with his bullshit fucking claims otherwise. The idea he’s conveying in his comments right now is that he gets it and we’re otherwise in fantasyland does not deserve any further oxygen. I’m convinced he posts while wearing clown makeup.

The continued panicking over OL depth here is nauseating. Texas is still working on some big answers to their rotation and then will sign, as with other positions, guys who can fill in the roster. Barring catastrophe for any team, no one is reaching regularly into their 3 deep for help at any position, OL and otherwise. This stupid fucking lamentation that Texas should have starter quality experience and depth behind, you know, the starters, is ridiculous and some sort of new portal horror porn kink for a bunch of you guys coming off as rubes.

Right here in this thread a new phenomenon in CFB fandom can be witnessed. People are now panicking when the concept of playing a younger player to replace a starter is floated. New starters developed on the roster after being recruited to the school is how starting talent has been replaced for 150 fucking years. Now? Unacceptable. No talent recruited into the program can become a starter. If Texas loses a starter to the NFL, by gawd, he better be replaced from the portal with proven starter talent from the P4. If that isn’t the case, then Texas doesn’t give a fuck about winning and is happy being mediocre.

Why even have a recruiting board with this level of hivemind idiotic thinking?

I normally do not engage him but on the prior page he was able to get a few hoople heads to go “ This! Oh my god why won’t the staff sign 9 more linemen so we do not care?”. If his clownish behavior was going unanswered that’s one thing but now we have multiple idiots about to take over the board. Maybe the answer is just put more people on ignore.

#12449

The handwringing from our fanbase is exhausting. We just beat Michigan by 2 scores with 2nd and 3rd teamers playing defense and offense. We have talented depth; probably more so than others. Our roster is still stacked and we do have some unknowns on the interior line, but overall I feel pretty good about the weapons we've added for Arch. Flood can still coach and right now if we can add some experienced bodies on the interior or even tackle then we will be complete. What we've done at LB and RB is nothing short of tremendous.

#12450
40 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The stupid is contagious here. It’s insane.

We have seen, from prior years!, that the final enrollment date, @JesusSweatDuck , for a semester does not matter. There are exceptions. So why create a false premise? Does it move the conversation forward?

As to the NFL roster or practice stuff, most of that was discussed in the offseason and preseason threads on the football board, and many of us here were not in favor of it. It wasn’t discussed in any depth on the $9.95er forum and BO&W is being disingenuous with his bullshit fucking claims otherwise. The idea he’s conveying in his comments right now is that he gets it and we’re otherwise in fantasyland does not deserve any further oxygen. I’m convinced he posts while wearing clown makeup.

The continued panicking over OL depth here is nauseating. Texas is still working on some big answers to their rotation and then will sign, as with other positions, guys who can fill in the roster. Barring catastrophe for any team, no one is reaching regularly into their 3 deep for help at any position, OL and otherwise. This stupid fucking lamentation that Texas should have starter quality experience and depth behind, you know, the starters, is ridiculous and some sort of new portal horror porn kink for a bunch of you guys coming off as rubes.

Right here in this thread a new phenomenon in CFB fandom can be witnessed. People are now panicking when the concept of playing a younger player to replace a starter is floated. New starters developed on the roster after being recruited to the school is how starting talent has been replaced for 150 fucking years. Now? Unacceptable. No talent recruited into the program can become a starter. If Texas loses a starter to the NFL, by gawd, he better be replaced from the portal with proven starter talent from the P4. If that isn’t the case, then Texas doesn’t give a fuck about winning and is happy being mediocre.

Why even have a recruiting board with this level of hivemind idiotic thinking?

The board as a whole was all in on NFL practices because we were coming off back-to-back semi-final performances and trust in Sark. Other boards were similar in that thought and were fed that thought by the 995ers which obviously came from the program. Now here we are a year later talking about NFL style rosters, same 995ers are pushing that from the same program. Yet you want to call me hive minded when I'm questioning that thought process? Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

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