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Surly Peeps.....I'll be in Houston for a family event and I need to find some food rec's for myself. I'm stying at the Zaza Museum District and these all appear to be walking distance. 

 

https://bodegastacoshop.com/menu : any good?

saw these BBQ joints:

https://www.citadelbbq.com/menu

https://www.brookstreetbbq.com/dine-in-takeout-menu/

https://thepitroombbq.com/main/

I may also hit up Trill Burger

Do you have a car? For the love of god dont go to Citadel bbq (they boil their shit) or brookstreet (trash)

 

If you are stay at Zaza and dont mind walking Le Jardinier is one of the best restaurants in the city and close. Lucilles is great, as is Mo Betta Brews for veggy options. MF sushi also fantastic

Pit Room is good (my personal favorite in town), Brookstreet is not.

Never heard of Citadel

Would be a pretty walk through South Hampton.  Take a walk down South Blvd for pic opps with the trees/ mansions etc..

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1 hour ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Do you have a car? For the love of god dont go to Citadel bbq (they boil their shit) or brookstreet (trash)

 

If you are stay at Zaza and dont mind walking Le Jardinier is one of the best restaurants in the city and close. Lucilles is great, as is Mo Betta Brews for veggy options. MF sushi also fantastic

was thinking about  Le Jardinier and I will look knto Lucilles. THX

Zaza has complimentary car service within a 3 mile radius.  Also, there is a rail station right by the hotel as well, just don't ride it late at night unless you enjoy the company of drunk homeless people.

As others have mentioned, MF Sushi, Le Jardinier and Lucille’s are the play within walking distance of the Zaza. Use Zaza’s house car to venture over to Montrose or Rice Village for more options. I lived at the Zaza for nearly a year while I was commuting from Arizona and, I can’t stress this enough, do not bother eating in their hotel restaurant. 

10 minutes ago, next2naus said:

what about this Granger joint? https://grangershouston.com/

It’s new-ish. Haven’t been and don’t know anyone who has so I can speak to it. It could be great, but I’ve avoided it just based on the fact that everything that has been in that space has failed. I realize that’s not a rational reason to avoid trying a place.

Pitt Room has pretty good BBQ. Candente and Toasted Coconut are close by as well.

8 minutes ago, mycox said:

Pitt Room has pretty good BBQ. Candente and Toasted Coconut are close by as well.

Candente is great. You just have to be prepared to smell like a campfire when you leave. The ventilation on their live-fire grill is atrocious.

3 hours ago, next2naus said:

was thinking about  Le Jardinier and I will look knto Lucilles. THX

 

lucilles 

pit room 

candante 

 

the rail is right behind you. you can go into downtown 

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3 hours ago, next2naus said:

was thinking about  Le Jardinier and I will look knto Lucilles. THX

 

i've heard too many 'meh' on la jardinier 

 

kata robata is my fave lunch in town. make a reservation or get there about 11:10 

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1 hour ago, royiv said:

As others have mentioned, MF Sushi, Le Jardinier and Lucille’s are the play within walking distance of the Zaza. Use Zaza’s house car to venture over to Montrose or Rice Village for more options. I lived at the Zaza for nearly a year while I was commuting from Arizona and, I can’t stress this enough, do not bother eating in their hotel restaurant. 

I think the Zaza is garbage, not my choice and not my $

17 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

i've heard too many 'meh' on la jardinier 

 

kata robata is my fave lunch in town. make a reservation or get there about 11:10 

Every meal I’ve had at Le Jardinier has been fantastic. It’s one of my go-to places to take people in from out of town and people always rave about it. That said, I have a friend that I have a standing weekly lunch with and we agree on restaurants 99.9% of the time and Le Jardinier is the one outlier for her.

Unpopular opinion: I think Kata is overrated.

5 minutes ago, royiv said:

Every meal I’ve had at Le Jardinier has been fantastic. It’s one of my go-to places to take people in from out of town and people always rave about it. That said, I have a friend that I have a standing weekly lunch with and we agree on restaurants 99.9% of the time and Le Jardinier is the one outlier for her.

Unpopular opinion: I think Kata is overrated.

 

popular opinion : lunch pricing v what you get slaps 

22 minutes ago, next2naus said:

I think the Zaza is garbage, not my choice and not my $

I like it just fine. They were very good to me when I stayed there nearly 200 nights in a single year.

30 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

popular opinion : lunch pricing v what you get slaps 

Doko, the new sushi place at Autry Park from the Handies Douzo and Kokoro guys, has what looks like a great lunch deal. We’re going to check it out either this week or next.

30 minutes ago, royiv said:

Doko, the new sushi place at Autry Park from the Handies Douzo and Kokoro guys, has what looks like a great lunch deal. We’re going to check it out either this week or next.

please post pics and review 

10 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Do you have a car? For the love of god dont go to Citadel bbq (they boil their shit) or brookstreet (trash)

 

If you are stay at Zaza and dont mind walking Le Jardinier is one of the best restaurants in the city and close. Lucilles is great, as is Mo Betta Brews for veggy options. MF sushi also fantastic

 

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12 hours ago, next2naus said:

Surly Peeps.....I'll be in Houston for a family event and I need to find some food rec's for myself. I'm stying at the Zaza Museum District and these all appear to be walking distance. 

 

https://bodegastacoshop.com/menu : any good?

saw these BBQ joints:

https://www.citadelbbq.com/menu

https://www.brookstreetbbq.com/dine-in-takeout-menu/

https://thepitroombbq.com/main/

I may also hit up Trill Burger

Pit room is good. I don’t know of citadel or bodega. Brookstreet isn’t very good. There’s also Loro on Kirby, which I haven’t been to but I think Aaron Franklin is involved with that. 

Feels like it’s been covered pretty well but avoid the bbq you listed, just uber to truth or Pinkertons if you don’t have a car and want great bbq. Pit room is good but Pinkertons/Truth are great, IMO. Betelgeuse Betelgeuse is nearby and although I haven’t been I hear they have good pizza. 

17 minutes ago, Etexhorn13 said:

Feels like it’s been covered pretty well but avoid the bbq you listed, just uber to truth or Pinkertons if you don’t have a car and want great bbq. Pit room is good but Pinkertons/Truth are great, IMO. Betelgeuse Betelgeuse is nearby and although I haven’t been I hear they have good pizza. 

 

1. i've never had a bad meal at pit room, it's a houston top 3 for me 

2. betelgeuse has good pizza, but haven't been in a several months 

Seconded on Lucille’s. 
 

I would unfriend whomever gave you those bbq recommendations. If you’re carless, Pinkerton’s and Truth will require an Uber. 
 

I’d take full advantage of the car service. You should be able to go most places in the Montrose, West U/Rice Village/Museum District. Clark’s is a really nice/cozy dining room for oysters. Women seem to love the place. 

Hermann Park is very underrated. It’s the best park in Houston by a fairly large margin in my opinion. If you catch some nice it’s worth a long stroll.

My daughter and I took the dogs for a long walk in Hermann Park last Tuesday to see the Great Elephant Migration before it left town.  We all had a great time.

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settling on Pinkertons (is it crazy on a Friday for lunch?), Truth or PitRoom

will def try Botega for breakfast tacos due to proximity.

I'm in with the family (wife, no pix, and two 7YO's) so it;s all about me getting some Texas food. maybe Betelgeuse for Pizza for my boy who is a pizza eting machine.

 

Thx for the help. 

5 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

My daughter and I took the dogs for a long walk in Hermann Park last Tuesday to see the Great Elephant Migration before it left town.  We all had a great time.

How's the Zoo? considering it for Friday 

I really like the Houston Zoo, and I think it’s one of the better zoos in the country.  They’ve made a lot of improvements over the last few years.  My daughter and I go pretty often, and I maintain a membership so we can go for free. Parking and crowds can be a problem when schools are out though. You make a reservation and buy tickets online now.

Edited by Ghost of NMAS

The Children's Museum Houston is pretty bad ass

1 hour ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

I really like the Houston Zoo, and I think it’s one of the better zoos in the country.  They’ve made a lot of improvements over the last few years.  My daughter and I go pretty often, and I maintain a membership so we can go for free. Parking and crowds can be a problem when schools are out though. You make a reservation and buy tickets online now.

 

Houston zoo is great 

i highly recommend being a donor that gets the cocktail events. the events alone make it worth it. always very good food and cocktails 

 

1 hour ago, next2naus said:

settling on Pinkertons (is it crazy on a Friday for lunch?), Truth or PitRoom

 

all 3 bbq spots will have a long line friday. pit room line is the quickest. truth is easily the slowest. get there a little early 

14 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

1. i've never had a bad meal at pit room, it's a houston top 3 for me 

2. betelgeuse has good pizza, but haven't been in a several months 

Pit Room has a good cue, the Beef Rib if its available is their best item I think.

Betelegeuse Betelgeuse has good pizza and some good cocktails.  Its a chill bar vibe there, sometimes have a decent bourbon selection.

2 hours ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

My daughter and I took the dogs for a long walk in Hermann Park last Tuesday to see the Great Elephant Migration before it left town.  We all had a great time.

That's cool, I missed that it was in town.  I need to get on their mailing list, would've been cool to see.

On 5/5/2025 at 7:33 AM, next2naus said:

Surly Peeps.....I'll be in Houston for a family event and I need to find some food rec's for myself. I'm stying at the Zaza Museum District and these all appear to be walking distance. 

 

https://bodegastacoshop.com/menu : any good?

saw these BBQ joints:

https://www.citadelbbq.com/menu

https://www.brookstreetbbq.com/dine-in-takeout-menu/

https://thepitroombbq.com/main/

I may also hit up Trill Burger

 

On 5/5/2025 at 9:12 AM, next2naus said:

was thinking about  Le Jardinier and I will look knto Lucilles. THX

 

Bodega Tocos is fine for like a, late night after drinking taco night. I haven't eaten their breakfast tacos. But I mean, it's on par with eating a Freebird's or Mission Burrito type place. Not saying it's bad, just that it's not special. 

All of your BBQ spots suck balls. As others have said, Pinkerton's or Truth. And Pinkerton's line moves pretty fast even on Fridays in my extensive experience. Truth, not so much. And yes, The Pit Room is not great and certainly isn't top 3 Houston BBQ, much less top 3 Houston. Sorry not sorry Putt. 

ZaZa car service will take you to Rice Village, which has plenty of good food options. Helen Greek & Wine, Hamsa, Navy Blue, Hungary's, even fucking Island Grill has good food. Cafe Rabelais, and then middle of the road stuff like Torchy's or Black Walnut. Sixy Vines. If you can get a bit further, you can get the Campechana at Good Company Seafood. 

3 hours ago, Pablo said:

Pit Room has a good cue, the Beef Rib if its available is their best item I think.

Betelegeuse Betelgeuse has good pizza and some good cocktails.  Its a chill bar vibe there, sometimes have a decent bourbon selection.

 

best chicken tacos in town 

Museum District resident here:

Nonno's on Richmond over Betelgeuse for pizza, but Rosie Canonball is right around the corner and maybe superior for ambiance

Italian: DaMarco on Westheimer or Amore on Sherpherd

Burgers: Trill is popular but Burger Joint should not be overlooked and ambiance wise is better

Little's Oyster Bar on Shepherd

7 minutes ago, Tigersnake said:

Museum District resident here:

Nonno's on Richmond over Betelgeuse for pizza, but Rosie Canonball is right around the corner and maybe superior for ambiance

Italian: DaMarco on Westheimer or Amore on Sherpherd

Burgers: Trill is popular but Burger Joint should not be overlooked and ambiance wise is better

Little's Oyster Bar on Shepherd

All pretty good takes except for Burger Joint. What in the ever living fuck have you ever found redeeming there? I keep trying to like it because it’s the closest burger place to my house, but every burger I’ve ever had there has been under seasoned and dry. It’s to the point that I only order it off of Uber Eats because I’m drunk at 3a and I somehow forget how shitty it is and then wake up regretting not ordering a patty melt from Whataburger.

LOL I also only found Burger Joint mostly appealing late night.  And it is still faster than the late-night drive thru at WB. 

On 5/6/2025 at 10:43 AM, next2naus said:

settling on Pinkertons (is it crazy on a Friday for lunch?), Truth or PitRoom

will def try Botega for breakfast tacos due to proximity.

I'm in with the family (wife, no pix, and two 7YO's) so it;s all about me getting some Texas food. maybe Betelgeuse for Pizza for my boy who is a pizza eting machine.

 

Thx for the help. 

How's the Zoo? considering it for Friday 

Went to Pinkerton’s for lunch on a Friday two weeks ago.  Line was 30-45 minutes. It was out to the end of the front awning if you know the building.  I had a brisket sandwich and it was OK.  Nanner puddin slapped. 

23 minutes ago, CycleTex87 said:

Went to Pinkerton’s for lunch on a Friday two weeks ago.  Line was 30-45 minutes. It was out to the end of the front awning if you know the building.  I had a brisket sandwich and it was OK.  Nanner puddin slapped. 

You stood in line for 45 minutes for a brisket sandwich? 

3 hours ago, royiv said:

All pretty good takes except for Burger Joint. What in the ever living fuck have you ever found redeeming there? I keep trying to like it because it’s the closest burger place to my house, but every burger I’ve ever had there has been under seasoned and dry. It’s to the point that I only order it off of Uber Eats because I’m drunk at 3a and I somehow forget how shitty it is and then wake up regretting not ordering a patty melt from Whataburger.

If you were ordering fast food at 3am, and you can still wake up and feel disappointed at what you ordered and ate, then you clearly weren't drunk enough. 

Another Montrose/Museum District resident here...

If you're getting a burger in the area, the correct answer is Toasted Coconut.

And I agree with Nonno's for pizza, especially with the kids as they have some arcade games.

A lot of the suggestions in this thread are not kid friendly (DaMarco, Amore, La Jardinier, MF Sushi)

Candente is great for TexMex close by.

Just get to Pinkerton's or Pit Room early-ish and you should be fine. Truth will probably take too long to wait.

On 5/7/2025 at 2:45 PM, CycleTex87 said:

Went to Pinkerton’s for lunch on a Friday two weeks ago.  Line was 30-45 minutes. It was out to the end of the front awning if you know the building.  I had a brisket sandwich and it was OK.  Nanner puddin slapped. 

 

you can pre order that, walk in and pick up, eat 

On 5/7/2025 at 11:35 AM, Tigersnake said:

Museum District resident here:

Nonno's on Richmond over Betelgeuse for pizza, but Rosie Canonball is right around the corner and maybe superior for ambiance

Italian: DaMarco on Westheimer or Amore on Sherpherd

Burgers: Trill is popular but Burger Joint should not be overlooked and ambiance wise is better

Little's Oyster Bar on Shepherd

 

i've passed nonno's many times, need to stop and try it 

On 5/7/2025 at 3:09 PM, royiv said:

You stood in line for 45 minutes for a brisket sandwich? 

Nanner puddin

5 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

i've passed nonno's many times, need to stop and try it 

It's great. We're actually getting it take-out tonight. 

2 hours ago, Ramsalot said:

It's great. We're actually getting it take-out tonight. 

 

thanks for the invite 

8 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

i've passed nonno's many times, need to stop and try it 

Same and we finally went about a month ago and it was pretty damn good. Will be back.

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