May 22May 22 Just now, SydneyCarton said: I mean, almost certainly. Or aggie T-shirt fans, most likely. But I'm guessing you don't understand the significance of an Ag Exemption? It means y'all are tax dodgers, get 'em boys.
May 22May 22 1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said: It means y'all are tax dodgers, get 'em boys. Ha. It means that land would be foreclosed upon and auctioned off to an Oligarch for peanuts...decades ago.
May 22May 22 3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said: Ok, so Twicehorn said the two articles are different, and your immediate response, unprompted to anything he said, was to try and blame Covid. Your post(s) on this thread were "This is all a big nothingburger" or equivalent, but now you're happy to blame Covid 19. I'm sure everyone here is SUPER surprised to see you take this opportunity. So who do you blame for all those travel restrictions and "bad" choices in 2020? The article directly blames covid travel restrictions. Sorry the truth hurts your worldview.
May 22May 22 5 minutes ago, Incredulity said: The article directly blames covid travel restrictions. Sorry the truth hurts your worldview. It doesn't. I'm just sorry that you, as usual, refuse to respond directly to your own posts on this thread claiming this is a nothingburger, or is it a covid resultant crisis, and how you arrived there in a few short posts, all while answering a question Twicehorn never asked you. I'm also sorry, but again not surprised, that you refused to answer very direct questions I posed to you about who you blame for 2020 covid policies.
May 22May 22 6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said: It doesn't. I'm just sorry that you, as usual, refuse to respond directly to your own posts on this thread claiming this is a nothingburger, or is it a covid resultant crisis, and how you arrived there in a few short posts, all while answering a question Twicehorn never asked you. I'm also sorry, but again not surprised, that you refused to answer very direct questions I posed to you about who you blame for 2020 covid policies. No the article, as quoted, quite literally does lay the blame at travel restrictions stopping inspection. I’m confident the ag sector and USDA will solve this before it wreaks havoc on US beef. Frankly I suspect the border restrictions on Mexican cattle is more about protectionism than screwfly. So yes this article is just panic porn. Edited May 22May 22 by Incredulity
May 22May 22 3 minutes ago, Incredulity said: No the article, as quoted, quite literally does lay the blame at travel restrictions stopping inspection. I’m confident the ag sector and USDA will solve this before it wreaks havoc on US beef. Frankly I suspect the border restrictions on Mexican cattle is more about protectionism than screwfly. So yes this article is just panic porn. Yes. I've read the article. I'm just curious why you chose to quote that section to the thread unprompted. It wasn't any part of the discussion people had brought up. Sort of like folks talking about their cup of coffee or beer choice, and you coming in with "THE MOB KILLED KENNEDY." Ah, so you still don't want to say who you blame for travel restrictions despite directly being asked twice. Since you brought it up in this thread. We'll I'm glad you're confident. Strange that most of the agriculture people in that article are NOT confident, and Cruz and Cornyn are trying to put together a massive bill to build a facility. It sucks that our elected officials in Texas are prone to such unnecessary panic porn that they're lobbying for a major spending bill. But with your confidence, I will sleep easy.
May 22May 22 1 hour ago, Armybrat said: While staying at a family friend’s ranch in Oklahoma 70 yearsago, the owner rounded up a few of his cows for us to look at. One of the critters had a gory looking hole in it lower gut area filled with screwworms. The rancher figured the cow had scratched itself on some barbed wire, giving the insects a prime spot to lay eggs. It was really nasty looking. He called the local vet to come out to treat it, but I don’t recall the ultimate outcome for that particular bovine. None of the remaining herd of 200+ were infected - after being rounded up for a check. pic from AB's encounter that day...
May 22May 22 57 minutes ago, BabaYaga said: f it gets bad, they'll go back to fly-vasectomies and release a billion horny male flies to hump the ladies into extinction. Why haven't we been doing this with aggy?
May 22May 22 Just now, Deej said: Why haven't we been doing this with aggy? If their enrollment numbers are any indication, no.
May 22May 22 1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said: If their enrollment numbers are any indication, no. Reread that post.
May 22May 22 10 minutes ago, Deej said: Why haven't we been doing this with aggy? That would just instigate a sharp decline in the sheep population.
May 22May 22 57 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said: I have geared a lot of my crop land acres away from cereal grain production and more towards beef production. For example I plant triticale in the fall now, instead of wheat. Milo has turned into my targeted cash crop now instead of wheat. Speaking of stuff that gets into somethings skin and can cause pain.
May 22May 22 1 hour ago, BabaYaga said: If it gets bad, they'll go back to fly-vasectomies and release a billion horny male flies to hump the ladies into extinction. Well, not if funding for that very successful program has been DOGE'd. Similar programs are done to control mosquitos, or at least were once done.
May 22May 22 1 minute ago, High Plains Drifter said: Well, not if funding for that very successful program has been DOGE'd. Similar programs are done to control mosquitos, or at least were once done. Jesus man, it was a technique used back in the 60's that engendered a complete eradication.. If it's still on the books, then that raises a bigger question.
May 23May 23 10 hours ago, SydneyCarton said: It just occurred to me that the 10 cows we probably use to keep the ag exemption on my FIL's property is probably going to get fucked . 10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said: Why, are the neighbors aggy? 10 hours ago, SydneyCarton said: I mean, almost certainly. Or aggie T-shirt fans, most likely. But I'm guessing you don't understand the significance of an Ag Exemption? I think atomheartbevo was referring to the aggy proclivity towards animal husbandry. Remember "Baaa (and Mooo), means no."
May 23May 23 Sometimes I like to think about 10th century peasants stripping ancient palaces and public spaces for marble across the former Roman Empire. Surrounded by stunning feats of human achievement made possible by systems they never saw, could not understand, could not recreate, but could slowly dismantle piece by piece.
May 23May 23 21 hours ago, BabaYaga said: Jesus man, it was a technique used back in the 60's that engendered a complete eradication.. If it's still on the books, then that raises a bigger question. Keyword search for DEI terms like gender would make sure it was purged from all public records.
May 23May 23 22 hours ago, orange dream said: pic from AB's encounter that day... Well, it was in Oklahoma. So that’s pretty close.
May 23May 23 23 hours ago, orange dream said: pic from AB's encounter that day... Threadjack: I saw a study where anthropologists looked at the bones of men of that era, and the closest occupational fit to the type injuries commonly found was that of rodeo cowboys. It seems that getting close enough to jab spears into a very large angry mammal incurs a lot of risk of multiple broken bones.
July 1Jul 1 Author https://www.cbsnews.com/news/usda-new-world-screwworms-response-proposal-texas/ Quote Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said her department plans to open what amounts to a fly factory by the end of the year. The facility will breed millions of sterile New World screwworm (NWS) flies at Moore Air Base, according to the initiative. The male flies will then be released into the wild to mate with females and prevent them from laying eggs in wounds that become flesh-eating larvae. It would be only the second facility for breeding such flies in the Western Hemisphere, joining one in Panama that had largely kept the flies from migrating further north until last year. Quote The USDA also plans to spend $21 million to convert a facility for breeding fruit flies near Mexico's southernmost border with Guatemala into one for breeding sterile New World screwworm flies, but it won't be ready for 18 months. The U.S. bred and released sterile New World screwworm flies into the wild decades ago, and it was largely banished from the country in the 1960s. Previously, it had been an annual scourge for cattle ranchers and dairy farmers, particularly in the Southeast.
July 1Jul 1 50 minutes ago, chainsaw said: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/usda-new-world-screwworms-response-proposal-texas/ RFK Jr.:
July 2Jul 2 On 5/22/2025 at 10:28 AM, SydneyCarton said: Yes. I've read the article. I'm just curious why you chose to quote that section to the thread unprompted. It wasn't any part of the discussion people had brought up. Sort of like folks talking about their cup of coffee or beer choice, and you coming in with "THE MOB KILLED KENNEDY." Ah, so you still don't want to say who you blame for travel restrictions despite directly being asked twice. Since you brought it up in this thread. We'll I'm glad you're confident. Strange that most of the agriculture people in that article are NOT confident, and Cruz and Cornyn are trying to put together a massive bill to build a facility. It sucks that our elected officials in Texas are prone to such unnecessary panic porn that they're lobbying for a major spending bill. But with your confidence, I will sleep easy. Don't quote morons please
July 2Jul 2 On 5/22/2025 at 7:51 AM, Underdog said: Does the screwworm add to the marbling, or is it mostly additional protein?
July 2Jul 2 I’m touring a ranch near El Campo next week. It’ll be interesting to see if my hosts address it. I’m sure it’ll come up.
July 5Jul 5 Author I know there are more pressing things but I definitely had sticker shock yesterday as I was rung up when I bought meat to cook out, compared to what I spent last year.
July 10Jul 10 They once again closed the borders for feeders today, and we have exploded to futures for live and feeder cattle to all time highs for the 4th day in a row
August 10Aug 10 Author Meat prices much higher across the board, with only some odd exceptions. Shoulder is especially much higher https://www.beefitswhatsfordinner.com/resources/wholesale-price-update Definitely seeing it at grocery stores.
August 11Aug 11 11 minutes ago, drt said: Seems like quality is down as well, at least where we shop. Yeah the chuck roasts I’ve bought lately have been crap.
August 11Aug 11 Author I haven't been able to grill much this summer because of scheduling conflicts and inclement weather, but I'm hoping to pick things up when football season begins in earnest and although I can afford higher prices I am definitely noticing them and the wincing faces of shoppers making decisions of what not to get and reconsidering what to buy. No CR though.
August 11Aug 11 23 a pound for a thin poorly marbled NY strip at tom thumb * choice Edited August 11Aug 11 by Sawbonz
August 11Aug 11 short segment on marketplace about beef and cattle this week https://www.marketplace.org/episode/2025/08/06/should-we-fret-over-rising-household-debt#rancher-balances-strong-beef-demand-with-low-cattle-numbers
August 11Aug 11 10 hours ago, chainsaw said: 1 lb brisket at Rudy's 183 is $29. Yeah, but that's a good deal since all the moisture is cooked out of it. You're not paying for all that water weight.
August 25Aug 25 Author Ground beef exceeded $6/lb for the first time. https://www.cbsnews.com/video/heres-why-beef-prices-are-soaring/ (Ignore the first 35 seconds of irrelevant bullshit from state-controlled media) They're blaming drought, parasites (probably the screwworms), and tariffs.
August 25Aug 25 Mostly drought, in my opinion. We’re still in short supply from a couple of years ago. I’m dumping anything that even looks sideways at me.
August 26Aug 26 fuck going anywhere near this shit. Quote The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in coordination with the Maryland Department of Health, confirmed the case on Aug. 4 in a patient who had returned from travel to El Salvador, Department of Health and Human Services spokesperson Andrew Nixon told NPR on Monday. "This is the first human case of travel-associated New World screwworm myiasis (parasitic infestation of fly larvae) from an outbreak-affected country identified in the United States," Nixon said. "Currently, the risk to public health in the United States from this introduction is very low." https://www.npr.org/2025/08/25/nx-s1-5515487/new-world-screwworm-us-human-case?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us
August 26Aug 26 Author 2 hours ago, elfenix said: fuck going anywhere near this shit. https://www.npr.org/2025/08/25/nx-s1-5515487/new-world-screwworm-us-human-case?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us Don't worry, the best and most competent people are on it.
August 26Aug 26 Don't worry, the best and most competent people are on it.They are on it. Seriously. Have been for a while now, but funding keeps getting fucked with.Because fuck Public Health. Amirite?
September 22Sep 22 On 8/26/2025 at 11:54 AM, chainsaw said: Don't worry, the best and most competent people are on it. On 8/26/2025 at 1:00 PM, tigol said: They are on it. Seriously. Have been for a while now, but funding keeps getting fucked with. 70 miles from the Texas border, and right now, somebody in this state is writing to their legislators saying this screwworm stuff isn't real. Flesh-eating maggots spotted 70 miles south of Texas threatens livestock population
September 22Sep 22 Screwworm confirmed near Laredo, USDA steps up defense Quote Mexico’s agricultural authority reported the case Sept. 21 in an 8-month-old cow in Sabinas Hidalgo, a town situated along the Monterrey-Laredo corridor, one of the busiest cattle and trade routes on the continent. Officials say the cow had been transported from southern Mexico, where screwworm is already spreading. “This is now the northernmost detection of New World screwworm during this outbreak and the one most threatening to the American cattle and livestock industry,” Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said. Quote The New World screwworm (Cochliomyia hominivorax) is a parasitic fly whose larvae feed on the living tissue of warm-blooded animals. Livestock, wildlife and even humans can be affected. Infestations can cause severe wounds that often lead to death if untreated. The pest was eradicated from the United States in the 1960s after a massive USDA-led program, but it has steadily crept back north through Central America. In recent years, screwworm detections in southern Mexico raised red flags for U.S. ranchers and veterinarians. Economic models warn that a reestablished U.S. outbreak could cost the cattle industry billions of dollars. I just really feel like we are going to fuck this up. Edited September 22Sep 22 by atomheartbevo
September 22Sep 22 1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said: Screwworm confirmed near Laredo, USDA steps up defense I just really feel like we are going to fuck this up. Oh. Atomheart. Don't feel that way. KNOW IT, with CERTAINTY. There's a 100% chance we'll fuck this up. Edited September 22Sep 22 by Brisketexan
September 22Sep 22 On 8/26/2025 at 12:44 PM, HenryJames said: To be fair, Trump promised that grocery prices would come down the first day he’s in office. He never did address prices the second day.
Monday at 04:03 PM2 days Author https://ucanr.edu/blog/food-blog/article/new-world-screwworm Quote Burrowing fly larvae cause ‘horror movie’ damage to animals It’s not just the economic impact that is particularly unnerving about New World screwworm. While mortality rates vary based on the species and other factors, it can be up to 100% in newborn calves. “It can affect and kill any warm-blooded animal – any bird, any mammal, including humans,” said Gaby Maier, Cooperative Extension specialist for beef cattle herd health and production at the UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine. “But we are particularly concerned about our cattle here.” Maier pointed to recent data from the outbreak in Panama, which indicated that 83% of screwworm cases were in bovines, with all other animals trailing far behind (human cases are relatively rare).
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