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National guard sent to "quell" protests.  What could possibly go wrong?

 

I don't have the clip, but a guy that got tear gassed was asked by a reporter what the gas tasted like.  His reply?  "Fascism".

 

Oh, and Whiskey Pete is threatening to send Marines from Pendleton...never mind the legality, or lack thereof. 

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10 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Yeah, because insurance company profits are what's really important here.

He can’t help it. He was born with a silver boot heel in his mouth.

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Insurance companies with California exposure 


My heart is hurting thinking about that insurance company CEO who will only get a 15 million dollar bonus this year instead of the 15.0000025m they would have gotten before this dust up.

Los Angelenos
All come from somewhere
It's so familiar
Their foreign faces

36 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Yeah, because insurance company profits are what's really important here.

No, the ability of average people to insure the property they have worked their ass off to buy is really important 

25 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

 


My heart is hurting thinking about that insurance company CEO who will only get a 15 million dollar bonus this year instead of the 15.0000025m they would have gotten before this dust up.

 

Let me guess you’re one of those

 

bUt ThEy HaZ InSuRAnc3 1!!11!!! Morons 

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

Insurance companies with California exposure 

 

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Try not to have too much fun enjoying the massacre. You embarrassed yourself back in the summer of 2020, but then again you might earn a merit badge for it this time around

44 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Let me guess you’re one of those

 

bUt ThEy HaZ InSuRAnc3 1!!11!!! Morons 

 

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Timely interview with a researcher on why well-organized nonviolent resistance proves more effective in countering government forces hellbent on breaking the will of the people.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/why-nonviolent-resistance-beats-violent-force-in-effecting-social-political-change/

WCFIA:  In your co-authored book, “Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict,” you explain clearly why civil resistance campaigns attract more absolute numbers of people — in part it’s because there’s a much lower barrier to participation compared with picking up a weapon. Based on the cases you have studied, what are the key elements necessary for a successful nonviolent campaign?

CHENOWETH:  I think it really boils down to four different things. The first is a large and diverse participation that’s sustained.

The second thing is that [the movement] needs to elicit loyalty shifts among security forces in particular, but also other elites. Security forces are important because they ultimately are the agents of repression, and their actions largely decide how violent the confrontation with — and reaction to — the nonviolent campaign is going to be in the end. But there are other security elites, economic and business elites, state media. There are lots of different pillars that support the status quo, and if they can be disrupted or coerced into noncooperation, then that’s a decisive factor.

The third thing is that the campaigns need to be able to have more than just protests; there needs to be a lot of variation in the methods they use.

The fourth thing is that when campaigns are repressed — which is basically inevitable for those calling for major changes — they don’t either descend into chaos or opt for using violence themselves. If campaigns allow their repression to throw the movement into total disarray or they use it as a pretext to militarize their campaign, then they’re essentially co-signing what the regime wants — for the resisters to play on its own playing field. And they’re probably going to get totally crushed.'

WCFIA: Is there any way to resist or protest without making yourself more vulnerable?

CHENOWETH: People have done things like bang pots and pans or go on electricity strikes or something otherwise disruptive that imposes costs on the regime even while people aren’t outside. Staying inside for an extended period equates to a general strike. Even limited strikes are very effective. There were limited and general strikes in Tunisia and Egypt during their uprisings and they were critical.

WCFIA: A general strike seems like a personally costly way to protest, especially if you just stop working or stop buying things. Why are they effective?

CHENOWETH: This is why preparation is so essential. Where campaigns have used strikes or economic noncooperation successfully, they’ve often spent months preparing by stockpiling food, coming up with strike funds, or finding ways to engage in community mutual aid while the strike is underway. One good example of that comes from South Africa. The anti-apartheid movement organized a total boycott of white businesses, which meant that black community members were still going to work and getting a paycheck from white businesses but were not buying their products. Several months of that and the white business elites were in total crisis. They demanded that the apartheid government do something to alleviate the economic strain. With the rise of the reformist Frederik Willem de Klerk within the ruling party, South African leader P.W. Botha resigned. De Klerk was installed as president in 1989, leading to negotiations with the African National Congress [ANC] and then to free elections, where the ANC won overwhelmingly. The reason I bring the case up is because organizers in the black townships had to prepare for the long term by making sure that there were plenty of food and necessities internally to get people by, and that there were provisions for things like Christmas gifts and holidays.

WCFIA: How important is the overall number of participants in a nonviolent campaign?

CHENOWETH: One of the things that isn’t in our book, but that I analyzed later and presented in a TEDx Boulder talk in 2013, is that a surprisingly small proportion of the population guarantees a successful campaign: just 3.5 percent. That sounds like a really small number, but in absolute terms it’s really an impressive number of people. In the U.S., it would be around 11.5 million people today. Could you imagine if 11.5 million people — that’s about three times the size of the 2017 Women’s March — were doing something like mass noncooperation in a sustained way for nine to 18 months? Things would be totally different in this country.

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Who gives a fuck about insurance. National Guard being mobilized, Marines next.

This is the start. Shits gonna get real.

 

Our resident malcontent heel truly does live up to their user name. 

Hope your 401Ks are worth it.. oh wait....  that sucks under this clown too.

Just gonna use it as an excuse to take control of blue state cities. Non-violence can't overthrow that shit bros.

I made a DT news thread since I imagine there's a number of folks that don't know it's happening. The presidential memo is fucking insane. For the next 60 days, Hegseth has unilateral authority to deploy soldiers domestically.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

               THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

               THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY

SUBJECT:       Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions 

Numerous incidents of violence and disorder have recently occurred and threaten to continue in response to the enforcement of Federal law by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions and supporting the faithful execution of Federal immigration laws.  In addition, violent protests threaten the security of and significant damage to Federal immigration detention facilities and other Federal property.  To the extent that protests or acts of violence directly inhibit the execution of the laws, they constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.

In light of these incidents and credible threats of continued violence, by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard under 10 U.S.C. 12406 to temporarily protect ICE and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions, including the enforcement of Federal law, and to protect Federal property, at locations where protests against these functions are occurring or are likely to occur based on current threat assessments and planned operations.  Further, I direct and delegate actions as necessary for the Secretary of Defense to coordinate with the Governors of the States and the National Guard Bureau in identifying and ordering into Federal service the appropriate members and units of the National Guard under this authority.  The members and units of the National Guard called into Federal service shall be at least 2,000 National Guard personnel and the duration of duty shall be for 60 days or at the discretion of the Secretary of Defense.  In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.

To carry out this mission, the deployed military personnel may perform those military protective activities that the Secretary of Defense determines are reasonably necessary to ensure the protection and safety of Federal personnel and property  The Secretary of Defense shall consult with the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security prior to withdrawing any personnel from any location to which they are sent.  The Secretaries of Defense and Homeland Security may delegate to subordinate officials of their respective Departments any of the authorities conferred upon them by this memorandum.

                               DONALD J. TRUMP

20 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

seems to me the 1000 rioters were unidentified unwanted federal agents shooting at civilians.    Gavin needs to combat this with a show of force.  TACO

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

I made a DT news thread since I imagine there's a number of folks that don't know it's happening. The presidential memo is fucking insane. For the next 60 days, Hegseth has unilateral authority to deploy soldiers domestically.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

               THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

               THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY

SUBJECT:       Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions 

Numerous incidents of violence and disorder have recently occurred and threaten to continue in response to the enforcement of Federal law by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions and supporting the faithful execution of Federal immigration laws.  In addition, violent protests threaten the security of and significant damage to Federal immigration detention facilities and other Federal property.  To the extent that protests or acts of violence directly inhibit the execution of the laws, they constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.

In light of these incidents and credible threats of continued violence, by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard under 10 U.S.C. 12406 to temporarily protect ICE and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions, including the enforcement of Federal law, and to protect Federal property, at locations where protests against these functions are occurring or are likely to occur based on current threat assessments and planned operations.  Further, I direct and delegate actions as necessary for the Secretary of Defense to coordinate with the Governors of the States and the National Guard Bureau in identifying and ordering into Federal service the appropriate members and units of the National Guard under this authority.  The members and units of the National Guard called into Federal service shall be at least 2,000 National Guard personnel and the duration of duty shall be for 60 days or at the discretion of the Secretary of Defense.  In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.

To carry out this mission, the deployed military personnel may perform those military protective activities that the Secretary of Defense determines are reasonably necessary to ensure the protection and safety of Federal personnel and property  The Secretary of Defense shall consult with the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security prior to withdrawing any personnel from any location to which they are sent.  The Secretaries of Defense and Homeland Security may delegate to subordinate officials of their respective Departments any of the authorities conferred upon them by this memorandum.

                               DONALD J. TRUMP

Coup of 2012. Read it.

@Gil Bang or @immamac - can one of you change the title to remove the 4 dead part? I understand the reference but given there is a non-zero chance of deaths coming up it would be nice to know current state of this affair.

  • immamac changed the title to LA ICE protest escalation

It's crazy that Star Wars is all over this, because the playbook is just so fucking predictable

 

17 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Coup of 2012. Read it.

That doesn't quite map perfectly as far as the endgame - I don't see the military seizing control, but I see it being the tool used to seize control. But i'll be goddamned if the middle phase of that scenario - the economic downturn and currency devaluation, political paralysis, and social unrest - is pretty much a pitch-perfect description of our nation right now.

Shit sure is fucked.

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2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

No, the ability of average people to insure the property they have worked their ass off to buy is really important 

And there you have it. All the assholes who can’t stop blathering about freedom and liberty only give a shit about one thing: the freedom of the rich to own property. 

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

That doesn't quite map perfectly as far as the endgame - I don't see the military seizing control, but I see it being the tool used to seize control. But i'll be goddamned if the middle phase of that scenario - the economic downturn and currency devaluation, political paralysis, and social unrest - is pretty much a pitch-perfect description of our nation right now.

Shit sure is fucked.

the man on horseback. Another good one.

Just now, InkaUtexas said:

the man on horseback. Another good one.

Also, we got a parade coming up.

Markwayne Mullin (R Oklahoma) was just on CNN saying that California is not doing what it should be doing to protect citizens from illegal immigrants, so the US government had to step in.

WTF happened to "states' rights"?

2 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Yeah, because insurance company profits are what's really important here.


Won’t people think of the insurers and their exposure to that one Home Depot shopping cart. 

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Don't respond to the bullshit excuses bootlickers post.   It is all bullshit, you know it, they know it.  Don't let them muddy the waters.

JFK and RFK (Sr) had the good sense to choreograph the play with Wallace when sending the Guard and Nicholas Katzenbach into Tuscaloosa just about exactly 63 years ago this week.  I clearly remember the choppers buzzing overhead and 1.5 ton troop trucks rumbling up and down the streets beside my house.  I don’t see any choreography going on here.  FUBAR quotient is high.

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Who gives a fuck about insurance. National Guard being mobilized, Marines next.

This is the start. Shits gonna get real.

 

 

I see you CR guys are doing that whole blind tribalism thing again. Carry on. 

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I see you CR guys are doing that whole blind tribalism thing again. Carry on. 

*Republicans go absolutely batshit for a decade+ at the imaginary prospect of a Democratic president calling in the National Guard, but are totally cool when a Republican president actually does it*

“YOU are doing blind tribalism, I am very smart”
1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:


*Republicans go absolutely batshit for a decade+ at the imaginary prospect of a Democratic president calling in the National Guard, but are totally cool when a Republican president actually does it*

“YOU are doing blind tribalism, I am very smart”

it's my attempt at sarcasm over a post from a very smart, respected poster on a different thread who was bat-signaled into the CR from another poster and then proceeded to bothsides us before giving an otherwise reasonable answer to a specific rocket science question. 

Close your eyes, can't happen here
Big Bro' on white horse is near
The hippies won't come back, you say
Mellow out or you will pay
Mellow out or you will pay

California Über Alles
California Über Alles
Über Alles California
Über Alles California

Now it is 1984
Knock-knock at your front door
It's the suede denim secret police
They have come for your uncool niece

Come quietly to the camp
You'd look nice as a drawstring lamp
Don't you worry, it's only a shower
For your clothes, here's a pretty flower

 

Released 46 years ago this month

 

Just now, Gourmand said:

it's my attempt at sarcasm over a post from a very smart, respected poster on a different thread who was bat-signaled into the CR from another poster and then proceeded to bothsides us before giving an otherwise reasonable answer to a specific rocket science question. 

Oops, my bad at the misread!

(Point still stands but no longer directed at you.)

49 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

And there you have it. All the assholes who can’t stop blathering about freedom and liberty only give a shit about one thing: the freedom of the rich to own property. 

The ability of average people to own property is distinctly American. 
 

You think the rich depend on insurance as much as average people?
 

found the ThEY HaZ InSurEnCes fucking dildo

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17 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:


*Republicans go absolutely batshit for a decade+ at the imaginary prospect of a Democratic president calling in the National Guard, but are totally cool when a Republican president actually does it*

“YOU are doing blind tribalism, I am very smart”

Republicans go absolutely batshit for a decade+ at the imaginary prospect of a Democratic president doing ________ but are totally cool when a Republican president actually does it.

This can just be copied and pasted into just about every thread in this forum, every day. 

This would be a good time for California to tell the United States to fuck right off.

6 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

The ability of average people to own property is distinctly American. 

Lulz.

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

This would be a good time for California to tell the United States to fuck right off.

Immediately invaded, overthrown, and imprisoned. 

But, yeah... I guess they could take the first stand against the coming tyranny. 

4 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Insurance companies with California exposure 

 

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3 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Yeah, because insurance company profits are what's really important here.

 

3 hours ago, Incredulity said:

No, the ability of average people to insure the property they have worked their ass off to buy is really important 

Damn, you move goal posts really damn fast.  Going from insurance companies to average people in a flash.  Also before you give some mushmouthed retort, we all know insurance companies will pass these losses on to average people.  No shit.

Yes sir, incredulity, right here...worried about average people.  LOL

16 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

The ability of average people to own property is distinctly American. 
 

you are not a serious person jfc

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