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LGW

Not sure I want OP in the cockpit for my next flight.

I think this is the first 787 hull loss? Early footage shows landing gear down and struggling to gain altitude. 

Be warned if you go to twitter you'll find the video of the crash and many more of the aftermath and some are really NSFL.

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21 minutes ago, Covri said:

Be warned if you go to twitter you'll find the video of the crash and many more of the aftermath and some are really NSFL.

Ghouls and their iPhones. The people crowding around the “body part” to take pictures and videos. I had a truck flip in front of me a few years ago and the first three people who reached the wreckage were taking pictures of the dead, partially ejected driver. 

29 minutes ago, Captainant said:

From the footage it looked like the flaps were not extended, so it's probably likely pilot error unless 787's history of poor workmanship really struck at the worst time

Could a full load of folks and fuel even get off the ground with no flaps?

42 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I think this is the first 787 hull loss? Early footage shows landing gear down and struggling to gain altitude

 

31 minutes ago, Captainant said:

From the footage it looked like the flaps were not extended, so it's probably likely pilot error unless 787's history of poor workmanship really struck at the worst time

Just saw the video and yeah, looked like flaps fully up and gear still down and losing altitude pretty quickly. Not a great condition for a plane to be in just after takeoff full of people and fuel for a pretty long flight...

21 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

Could a full load of folks and fuel even get off the ground with no flaps?

Apparently not. 

55 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I think this is the first 787 hull loss? Early footage shows landing gear down and struggling to gain altitude. 

This is the first 787 to go down in the thirteen years it’s been operational.   Which is remarkable considering the scrutiny both the 787 and 737 Max have received.   But this might be due to the fact many of long haul flights are using older Boeing models or Airbus.   

37 minutes ago, Lat22 said:

Ghouls and their iPhones. The people crowding around the “body part” to take pictures and videos. I had a truck flip in front of me a few years ago and the first three people who reached the wreckage were taking pictures of the dead, partially ejected driver. 

People crave views, likes, follows and potentially money by being the first to post a tragedy.

Watched the video. Flaps up, gear down, engines sound like they are thrusting. CVR will be horrible.

4 minutes ago, RPM said:

Watched the video. Flaps up, gear down, engines sound like they are thrusting. CVR will be horrible.

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1 hour ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

 

Just saw the video and yeah, looked like flaps fully up and gear still down and losing altitude pretty quickly. Not a great condition for a plane to be in just after takeoff full of people and fuel for a pretty long flight...

And I heard it was 98 degrees. 

Apparently the one survivor jumped from the plane? Will be a crazy story to see what was going on. 

33 minutes ago, ConferenceRoom said:

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That looks like minimal flaps but not flaps zero

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Allegedly they performed an intersection takeoff leaving 6300 feet of usable runway behind them which would be very odd on a flight that long. 

@Bobby_Batronic, @DaysOff

wouldn't the pilots had to have raised the flaps at that point in their ascent themselves? to even get to that point in the air they had to have started down, right?

what the ever loving fuck?

2 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

That is what I was thinking.  

 

2 minutes ago, sidis said:

@Bobby_Batronic, @DaysOff

wouldn't the pilots had to have raised the flaps at that point in their ascent themselves? to even get to that point in the air they had to have started down, right?

what the ever loving fuck?

The Ram Air Turbine is deployed which suggests a complete loss of power. It’s a small fan that generates limited electricity and hydraulic pressure. Probably something happened before they had a chance to do much else. Birds, fuel contamination would be obvious. Terrorism?

There’s no rudder deflection so they’re not single engine unless the operating engine were retarded to idle. I would think the 787 handles that for you.

9 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

I cannot believe 11A on a 787 is an Economy seat. 

Do you even India bro?

 

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Is this the model the Qataris gifted our dear leader?

Not remotely close.

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22 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

And it struck a bunch of medical students in their cafeteria

That's no way for the airline to curry favor with the med school. 

1 hour ago, ClubWhatever said:

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So auto engage is basically when one system bricks the plane. 
 

and manual is for “we’re falling out of the sky and don’t know why, try everything”

?

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23 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

I cannot believe 11A on a 787 is an Economy seat. 

I can’t believe we don’t know whether he was fully reclined or not.  

Surly thinks that this has a bearing on whether he should live or die.

16 minutes ago, SuperSport said:

Do you even India bro?

 

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So guy in 11A knows it’s going down and right before impact opens the door next to him and bails out and survives?  That’s pretty amazing. 

2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

So guy in 11A knows it’s going down and right before impact opens the door next to him and bails out and survives?  That’s pretty amazing. 

He defeated the curtain to get to the door too. Might catch a criminal charge for using a first class emergency exit. 

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2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

So guy in 11A knows it’s going down and right before impact opens the door next to him and bails out and survives?  That’s pretty amazing. 

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Seeing that video, I think everyone knew what was coming. It stalled all the way to the ground.  Terrifying and people absolutely could feel that the ground was not moving the way it was supposed to. 

1 minute ago, KYHorn said:

Where do you see that? This report from the Independent indicates he was found in his seat. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/air-india-crash-british-survivor-seat-11a-b2768925.html 

There is going to be a bunch of terrible information based on local coverage. South Asian media is AWFUL. They shared a passenger manifest before NOK got contacted. Wait for an international source to confirm anything. 

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