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33 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

blah blah blah I fantasize about men getting raped blah blah blah

Now who’s name dropping?  Sickie. 
 

anyway to the rest of the posters—-what is the real story on how much  excess refining capacity Mexico actually has?  

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Meanwhile, things are going well at Oxy. Employees being asked to choose their own terms for resignation, not the best look for Oxy. 

 

 

22 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

What do you mean?

They will go to capital markets and get other suckers to finance their next ventures in shareholder value destruction.

I never said they were going to do it right now and they may never do it.  But if they decide to get back in the game, rest assured it won’t be with their own money.

I never said they were going to do it right now and they may never do it.  But if they decide to get back in the game, rest assured it won’t be with their own money.
Where do you suggest the money will come from?
54 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

That OXY severance auction is some real Hunger Games shit. 

If I didn’t have so many friends working there, I’d laugh 

On the flip side, in 2 years I’ll gladly accept a $150k+ sign up offer to accept a job with oxy 

So how does that work?  The lowest bidders get to leave, and the high bidders gotta stay on the job?

6 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So how does that work?  The lowest bidders get to leave, and the high bidders gotta stay on the job?

The lowest bidders leave if the price is acceptable to Oxy, the high bidders get fired. 

15 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So how does that work?  The lowest bidders get to leave, and the high bidders gotta stay on the job?

Lowest bidders get to leave with money and benefits . Highest bidders leave with only a cardboard box. 

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1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

That OXY severance auction is some real Hunger Games shit. 

I've worked at a company that rolled out a voluntary severance package after a big merger, but the company set the rate. 2 months guaranteed, plus 1 month of your current salary for every year of employment. A lady on my team walked away with almost 2 years salary, took 3 months off, then walked right into a better paying job with a software company. 

59 minutes ago, DCA_HORN said:
1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:
I never said they were going to do it right now and they may never do it.  But if they decide to get back in the game, rest assured it won’t be with their own money.

Where do you suggest the money will come from?


 

They will go to capital markets

Just because the capital markets are frozen now doesn’t mean they will remain frozen forever.

The lowest bidders leave if the price is acceptable to Oxy, the high bidders get fired. 
That is awesome...ly assholish.
I've worked at a company that rolled out a voluntary severance package after a big merger, but the company set the rate. 2 months guaranteed, plus 1 month of your current salary for every year of employment. A lady on my team walked away with almost 2 years salary, took 3 months off, then walked right into a better paying job with a software company. 
Yep. I know plenty of people who've doubled up like that.
14 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

blah blah blah I fantasize about men getting raped blah blah blah

Who pissed your Cheerios this morning?

WTI saw a brief flash upwards to around $26.50 after EIA numbers came in far better than yesterday's API at 10:30, but it disappeared faster than a fart in the wind. Literally gone by 10:40. 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Yep. I know plenty of people who've doubled up like that.

My company got acquired by a larger company, and we got...

1 year salary worth of stock that vested immediately
1 year salary of retention bonus (paid if we stayed for a year)
1 year salary and benefits severance if our jobs went away before the year was up

Somehow our executive committee was able to negotiate that we were eligible for both the retention bonus and severance if our job went away or they closed our office within a year.  I kept my job for 5 months, coming in at 10am, going to a movie or playing golf in the afternoon, and leaving at 3pm.  I then found a new job, so I emailed the new HR department and said my job responsibilities went away, and they fought it until I pointed out my new "boss" hadn't called or emailed me in 4 months.  I walked away with 3x salary.

My company got acquired by a larger company, and we got...
1 year salary worth of stock that vested immediately
1 year salary of retention bonus (paid if we stayed for a year)
1 year salary and benefits severance if our jobs went away before the year was up
Somehow our executive committee was able to negotiate that we were eligible for both the retention bonus and severance if our job went away or they closed our office within a year.  I kept my job for 5 months, coming in at 10am, going to a movie or playing golf in the afternoon, and leaving at 3pm.  I then found a new job, so I emailed the new HR department and said my job responsibilities went away, and they fought it until I pointed out my new "boss" hadn't called or emailed me in 4 months.  I walked away with 3x salary.

fuck I’m wet. what industry?
My company got acquired by a larger company, and we got...
1 year salary worth of stock that vested immediately
1 year salary of retention bonus (paid if we stayed for a year)
1 year salary and benefits severance if our jobs went away before the year was up
Somehow our executive committee was able to negotiate that we were eligible for both the retention bonus and severance if our job went away or they closed our office within a year.  I kept my job for 5 months, coming in at 10am, going to a movie or playing golf in the afternoon, and leaving at 3pm.  I then found a new job, so I emailed the new HR department and said my job responsibilities went away, and they fought it until I pointed out my new "boss" hadn't called or emailed me in 4 months.  I walked away with 3x salary.
What company? Asking for a friend.

My dad worked for SmallCo and was given a full severance package in 2009 after 40 years with the company.   I don't know the exact details, but apparently it was about 2 years' worth of full salary.

Six months later he started contract consulting for IndyCo and finagled his way into a full-time employee situation within a year.  After a few months on staff, IndyCo was taken over by SmallCo.  A year after that he was let go again (because old) but worked out an agreement that his previous years with SmallCo would be used to determine his second severance - another 2+ years salary.  In about three years he walked away with probably the equivalent of 5 / 6 years salary.

10 minutes ago, Angry Gorilla said:

Athlon

Were you at Champion when Ecolab bought them?  There were probably some bonuses involved in that as well. I was involved in Athlon’s plant purchase on Bay Area Blvd. 

My dad worked for SmallCo and was given a full severance package in 2009 after 40 years with the company.   I don't know the exact details, but apparently it was about 2 years' worth of full salary.
Six months later he started contract consulting for IndyCo and finagled his way into a full-time employee situation within a year.  After a few months on staff, IndyCo was taken over by SmallCo.  A year after that he was let go again (because old) but worked out an agreement that his previous years with SmallCo would be used to determine his second severance - another 2+ years salary.  In about three years he walked away with probably the equivalent of 5 / 6 years salary.
Man that's the dream scenario working in this industry. Severance package on the way out to retirement.
21 hours ago, Angry Gorilla said:

My company got acquired by a larger company, and we got...

1 year salary worth of stock that vested immediately
1 year salary of retention bonus (paid if we stayed for a year)
1 year salary and benefits severance if our jobs went away before the year was up

Somehow our executive committee was able to negotiate that we were eligible for both the retention bonus and severance if our job went away or they closed our office within a year.  I kept my job for 5 months, coming in at 10am, going to a movie or playing golf in the afternoon, and leaving at 3pm.  I then found a new job, so I emailed the new HR department and said my job responsibilities went away, and they fought it until I pointed out my new "boss" hadn't called or emailed me in 4 months.  I walked away with 3x salary.

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5 hours ago, Storm the Field said:

$27.75, highest price since 3/16. 

Plenty of time to buy that boat for the summer !!!!

On 5/2/2020 at 11:49 PM, MaybeACoordinator said:

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Seems legit from checking out the Reddit thread. Bosses told workers furlough was ending early and for everybody to come in Monday so... they can be unfurloughed and immediately laid off. Maybe you could pull a variant on the Costanza and just not show up Monday and hide out at home for awhile.  

When I worked for Good Hope refining the asshole owner would have called you in, told you to help pack the boxes for "storage" and then fire you when you completed the job.  Complete with security walking you out the door.

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33 minutes ago, BevoSwag said:

When I worked for Good Hope refining the asshole owner would have called you in, told you to help pack the boxes for "storage" and then fire you when you completed the job.  Complete with security walking you out the door.

Man, that's fucked up. 

 

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19 hours ago, Storm the Field said:

$27.75, highest price since 3/16. 

It's going straight to $100, there will be no pullbacks.

Another 34 oil rigs and 1 gas rig dropped. Down to 339 (258 oil/79 gas).

That brings the total number of rigs laid down the past 2 months to just over 450. 648 since the same week last year.

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Shitco’s going to be hedging and pumping like crazy soon.

Hah they would probably like to.

Anyone still have that shaleco/shitco shark tank spoof? Don't feel like digging, but that shit was funny as hell.

Also,  I'd venture that anyone who is/was bullish on natural gas due to lower oil prices probably isn't now. 

3 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Still bullish. 

Srs question. What makes you bullish right now?

4 hours ago, Storm the Field said:

Well, I'll be damned. Possible that WTI heads into the weekend at a price that starts with a 3. 

Close, but not quite. $29.71. 

I think we’re already oversupplied in gas and too many assholes are chasing $3 this winter. The associated gas coming off helps but too many will try to fill the void. 

If there's any truth to this, might wanna factor it in.  Big "IF"...

http://www.china.org.cn/china/Off_the_Wire/2020-05/07/content_76017229.htm

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CHENGDU, May 7 (Xinhua) -- An oilfield branch of PetroChina, China's largest oil and gas producer, announced their discovery of a huge natural gas belt with an estimated reserve of over 1 trillion cubic meters in southwest China's Sichuan Province.

The PetroChina Southwest Oil and Gasfield Company (SWOG) completed a successful test of prospecting for oil and gas in Tianbao Township of Daying County, which had a daily output of 1.22 million cubic meters of gas, according to the SWOG.

The belt, some 130 km away from the provincial capital of Chengdu, neighbors the gasfield in the Gaoshiti-Moxi area in the middle part of the Sichuan Basin, where the current natural gas production capacity reaches 15 billion cubic meters annually.

Based in Chengdu, SWOG supplies natural gas to more than 1,000 large and medium-sized industrial companies and more than 20 million households in southwest China. Enditem

 

If there's any truth to this, might wanna factor it in.  Big "IF"...
http://www.china.org.cn/china/Off_the_Wire/2020-05/07/content_76017229.htm

CHENGDU, May 7 (Xinhua) -- An oilfield branch of PetroChina, China's largest oil and gas producer, announced their discovery of a huge natural gas belt with an estimated reserve of over 1 trillion cubic meters in southwest China's Sichuan Province.

The PetroChina Southwest Oil and Gasfield Company (SWOG) completed a successful test of prospecting for oil and gas in Tianbao Township of Daying County, which had a daily output of 1.22 million cubic meters of gas, according to the SWOG.

The belt, some 130 km away from the provincial capital of Chengdu, neighbors the gasfield in the Gaoshiti-Moxi area in the middle part of the Sichuan Basin, where the current natural gas production capacity reaches 15 billion cubic meters annually.

Based in Chengdu, SWOG supplies natural gas to more than 1,000 large and medium-sized industrial companies and more than 20 million households in southwest China. Enditem

 
It's China. I want proof.
10 minutes ago, Parliament said:

 
It's China. I want proof.

Even if it's true it's still bullshit and won't mean fuck all.

35 minutes ago, Parliament said:

 
It's China. I want proof.

Like I said, big "if".

$32.75

This makes zero sense to me, this is all sentiment right?  There can't be a fundamental case for a return to these prices.

2 minutes ago, BTW said:

$32.75

This makes zero sense to me, this is all sentiment right?  There can't be a fundamental case for a return to these prices.

Well, there have been some rather drastic supply reductions, in a very short amount of time. Initial estimates were that US producers would take 1.5M barrels/day off the market by June. We've already exceeded that, two weeks into May. 

That, and demand is starting to improve. Reports today that Chinese traffic congestion is back to pre-covid levels. India also seeing a major uptick in demand for diesel compared to last month.

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