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Dallas officer kills man after mistaking apartment for her own, police say

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Interesting exchange.  As part of her background, they were going to have her explain that as a child, cops came to a domestic disturbance at her house and "made her feel safe."

State objected to the latter as prejudicial.  Judge sustained.  Mumbling about the "police make you feel safe."

Lmao.  Sad.

Good lord she looks/sounds roughhhhhh. Obviously she’s on the hook for Effin murder that might cause that but woof.

2 minutes ago, bluto said:

Good lord she looks/sounds roughhhhhh. Obviously she’s on the hook for Effin murder that might cause that but woof.

Gotta make her look like a sympathetic figure.  

Hmm so she worked "more than 40 hours" while also going to school, but was never so fatigued from that schedule that she wandered into the wrong apartment and immediately ventilated someone?

And yeah, I guess there were two possible strategies for them in her physical presentation, either "hey look at the cute sweet white girl don't ruin her life" or "look how devastated she has been over this awful unavoidable accident" and they went door #2.

Interesting exchange.  As part of her background, they were going to have her explain that as a child, cops came to a domestic disturbance at her house and "made her feel safe."
State objected to the latter as prejudicial.  Judge sustained.  Mumbling about the "police make you feel safe."
Lmao.  Sad.

I can't wrap my head around what they were trying to accomplish with this line of reasoning at all. Even if the jury buys it, so fucking what? It doesn't have any bearing on what happened in this case.
2 minutes ago, TXSooner518 said:

Hmm so she worked "more than 40 hours" while also going to school, but was never so fatigued from that schedule that she wandered into the wrong apartment and immediately ventilated someone?

And yeah, I guess there were two possible strategies for them in her physical presentation, either "hey look at the cute sweet white girl don't ruin her life" or "look how devastated she has been over this awful unavoidable accident" and they went door #2.

And, the part where "cute sweet girl" was just gonna be flat hard to pull off.

1 minute ago, tokamak said:


I can't wrap my head around what they were trying to accomplish with this line of reasoning at all. Even if the jury buys it, so fucking what? It doesn't have any bearing on what happened in this case.

I don't think it was a big deal either way.  Certainly not an appeal hinging on it.

Frankly, I could see the irony of it not being lost on the jury.

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Good lord she looks/sounds roughhhhhh. Obviously she’s on the hook for Effin murder that might cause that but woof.


Is the stream up yet? The one I’ve been watching isn’t live yet
2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

And, the part where "cute sweet girl" was just gonna be flat hard to pull off.

Ehh, come on. She's clearly not smoking hot, but a young petite blonde girl could definitely be made "cute" especially with a large budget. I know it's Surly where we all smash 10s, but they could definitely have gone that way if they wanted to.

She was banging her married cop partner. lulz

Sex cop was married.  One might think the defense might have brought that out with him so as not to let it all fall on her.

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Sex cop was married.  One might think the defense might have brought that out with him so as not to let it all fall on her.

yeah, nooo shit, wtf

Trying to make it sound like a dangerous neighborhood. Lots of break-ins and homeless people outside. 

Her droopy jowls/mouth slightly ajar remind me of some of the face transplant recipients of recent years.

The property manager was performing inspections of the apartments that week. Probably going to say she thought maintenance didn’t fully close the door. 

This is all bullshit. She is a fucking cop, ofc there are dangerous things happening. But that has nothing to do with walking into the wrong apartment and killing the occupant.

Not watching. How's she doing with the waterworks? I bet they had her chopping onions all morning.

1 minute ago, hookem17 said:

Sex cop was sexting at his son’s Boy Scout meeting. 

Most Sex Cops do.

No crying.  She's composed, not an automaton, quite.  Not a bad witness so far.

"I was so lucky to not have to carry my equipment far b/c I got a close parking spot.  Of course, rather than taking literally 1 second to verify what floor I was on, I decided to carry all that heavy equipment past 16 doors to get to mine, despite the fact that this is the most confusing apartment complex in history, and no one can tell by looking what floor they are on."

Is there anywhere I can place a bet on the verdict?

6 minutes ago, TXSooner518 said:

"I was so lucky to not have to carry my equipment far b/c I got a close parking spot.  Of course, rather than taking literally 1 second to verify what floor I was on, I decided to carry all that heavy equipment past 16 doors to get to mine, despite the fact that this is the most confusing apartment complex in history, and no one can tell by looking what floor they are on."

do you not have a woman in your life?

2 minutes ago, 4th and 5 said:

do you not have a woman in your life?

Objection - we are working on a reasonable person standard, not a reasonable woman standard.

Here it comes.  Shook had her stand up to demonstrate how she was carrying shit and opened the door and she wigged out.

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So Sex Cop was married. She has a history of reasonable decision making.

why'd she start crying? I'm trying to read police reports and talk shit to the sooner and listen to sidebar conferences and I lost my place

Just now, 4th and 5 said:

why'd she start crying? I'm trying to read police reports and talk shit to the sooner and listen to sidebar conferences and I lost my place

It seemed really kind of out of nowhere, but did seem pretty genuine IMO. I dunno if the reality of getting right to the moment of truth came all of a sudden or what. It sounded like the prosecution objected to her putting on the equipment, and she was crying saying just let me do it, but I couldn't hear that part well. 

1 minute ago, 4th and 5 said:

why'd she start crying? I'm trying to read police reports and talk shit to the sooner and listen to sidebar conferences and I lost my place

He had her stand up and act like she was carrying her equipment into the apartment.  She blubbered something and they called a break.

 

This takes me back to watching the Pitonyak trial.  

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Couldn't understand what she was saying, but those tears came fast. Definitely seemed genuine. Fake tears don't typically lead to "ugly crying" where you can't breath or speak, but I don't think anyone here believes she's anything but extremely remorseful. Unfortunately, that's not what the case is about. 

Actually, Kingston was a city councilman who lost his seat last fall. He is a big political ally of Scott Griggs, who did in fact lose the runoff mayoral election.

Kingston is very opinionated and very intelligent but some see him as a bit of a bully. He and Griggs -- and a handful of others -- are the the only reason we don't have the stupid ass Tollway in the Trinity River basin. For that, I'll be forever thankful. If you're familiar with the Dallas City Council thread here you might remember Kingston and I went to HS together in SA.

Ok yeah Griggs is who I was thinking of. Delete user. Ban thread.

 

fucking a this is going to get heavy, cross is going to take all day

3 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

I don't think anyone here believes she's anything but extremely remorseful. 

Oh, I think there's a sizable portion of shaglantes that are quite sure she laughs and flicks her bean over the whole episode.

5 minutes ago, hullabelew said:

He had her stand up and act like she was carrying her equipment into the apartment.  She blubbered something and they called a break.

 

She started crying before that though, there was an objection to a question, before that she seemed fine, after the objection discussion which wasn't picked up on audio, she was in tears, then it went full on blubbering when she had to stand up and put on the equipment.

1 minute ago, TXSooner518 said:

She started crying before that though, there was an objection to a question, before that she seemed fine, after the objection discussion which wasn't picked up on audio, she was in tears, then it went full on blubbering when she had to stand up and put on the equipment.

I suspect that having that sidebar where she was just sitting there, and not having to focus on answering questions, went a long way to provoking that.

did we hear a ruling on the defense asking her about the acute stress response?

She said she wanted to continue, even while breaking down in tears, but the Judge excused the jury and took a recess for her to compose herself.

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