June 23Jun 23 I’m sure we’ll change the thread title. The East should be historically bad next year without Tatum and Haliburton. Giannis’ best look at a title in years. I could see the Pistons making some noise and the Knicks taking a step back.
June 23Jun 23 17 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said: Giannis’ best look at a title in years. People keep parroting this but I don't really follow. His team is fucking dogshit. Between Cleveland, Orlando and Detroit someone will probably be better than MIL and if they aren't then whoever makes the Finals is going to get ass raped.
June 23Jun 23 9 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said: I’m sure we’ll change the thread title. The East should be historically bad next year without Tatum and Haliburton. Giannis’ best look at a title in years. I could see the Pistons making some noise and the Knicks taking a step back. meanwhile San Antonio probably joins the Western Conference blood bath free for all, Houston rounds out their starting 5 with an all time great, Dallas lands Flagg but at least no Kyrie, Memphis might take a step back, Wolves need to get a PG before we become more serious than just a WCF participation trophy(i think Tim Connolly is cooking something up to address this), Golden State might have 1 good year left with this cores age, Denver still has the best player in the world but they also have MPJs contract holding them back, Lakers still need to build around Luka thatll take a year or 2, Clippers are older but spawned one of the best young centers in the league so hteyll be around. Portland played better down the stretch so they might be a play in threat. Jazz, Suns, Kings(trending downward) will be the punching bags of the west
June 23Jun 23 With Haliburton out for season (probable), I wouldn't be surprised if the pacers punt on resigning Turner. Why go over the 2nd apron for a team without championship hopes?
June 23Jun 23 With Haliburton out for season (probable), I wouldn't be surprised if the pacers punt on resigning Turner. Why go over the 2nd apron for a team without championship hopes?He was for lack of a better word atrocious against OKC in basically every facet of the game
June 23Jun 23 58 minutes ago, Fastbreak said: With Haliburton out for season (probable), I wouldn't be surprised if the pacers punt on resigning Turner. Why go over the 2nd apron for a team without championship hopes? 15 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said: He was for lack of a better word atrocious against OKC in basically every facet of the game He shot it horribly from three, but he played great defense and hit a ton of mid range shots. He's also their only true big. They need a lot more size up front, even if they do re-sign him. He's also their longest tenured player and seemingly critical to their culture. I would not be surprised if they get him on a team friendly deal. One thing about the Haliburton injury... they got lucky as hell that they traded out their 2025 pick for the return of their 2026 pick. There's no way the Pelicans make that same deal today.
June 23Jun 23 10 hours ago, ztejas said: People keep parroting this but I don't really follow. His team is fucking dogshit. Between Cleveland, Orlando and Detroit someone will probably be better than MIL and if they aren't then whoever makes the Finals is going to get ass raped. Agreed. Milwaukee will probably be "a contender" in the east by default, but that roster is terrible. The three teams you mentioned + the Knicks should all be better than them and even watered down versions of Boston and Indiana should be right there with them.
June 23Jun 23 If KD were ring chasing, he would have gone to Miami given how wide open the East. It’s very cool he wanted to be closer to Austin to close out his career. Riley is losing his mind. Allegedly he wouldn’t include Highsmith in a deal for KD.
June 23Jun 23 If KD were ring chasing, he would have gone to Miami given how wide open the East. It’s very cool he wanted to be closer to Austin to close out his career. Riley is losing his mind. Allegedly he wouldn’t include Highsmith in a deal for KD. I read ware they didn’t want to part with but PHX could have a combo of like Vasquez, topic, and #20 or something plus Wiggins and rozierI’d rather have topic and see if he develops into something later on vs Jalen green
June 23Jun 23 The Suns probably think they can use 5 seconds to pick up an additional first (28-30). It’s happened before. It’s not nothing especially when it’s 5 of them in a single package, but it’s a small price to pay for KD. Edited June 23Jun 23 by billfromlaketravis
June 23Jun 23 37 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said: I read ware they didn’t want to part with but PHX could have a combo of like Vasquez, topic, and #20 or something plus Wiggins and rozier I’d rather have topic and see if he develops into something later on vs Jalen green Topic is in MIA? I thought he was on OKC's roster
June 23Jun 23 6 minutes ago, d2o said: Topic is in MIA? I thought he was on OKC's roster I feel like he meant Jovic Also OP that’s Fuck the NBA Champion OKC. Make it official if you’re gonna put it in the title
June 23Jun 23 3 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said: I wish the Knicks make a harder run at Durant. East is wide open Is there any evidence Durant wanted to play there? If not, the knicks are looking at a one year rental and probably less motivated than the Rockets to offer assets for Durant.
June 23Jun 23 13 minutes ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said: I feel like he meant Jovic I was wondering if that was the case and if so I'd take Green with his warts over Jovic 100:100
June 23Jun 23 13 minutes ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said: I feel like he meant Jovic Well it is confusing Nikola Topic Nikola Jovic Nikola Jokic It's all Balkan to me
June 23Jun 23 Yea jovic lolApparently ware and jovic were untouchable according to Gambo from az sports radio so Miami was a salary dump and a crappy pick
June 23Jun 23 So who ruptures their achilles next year and how many? And how long until Jokic is teamed up with Luka in LA?
June 23Jun 23 Author 16 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said: I’m sure we’ll change the thread title. why would we do that? 16 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said: The East should be historically bad next year without Tatum and Haliburton. Giannis’ best look at a title in years. I could see the Pistons making some noise and the Knicks taking a step back. Not sure about historically bad, but pretty bad. Giannis' team (as has been pointed out) is terrible and they're more likely to be a play-in team than a top 4 seed. I'll be interested to see how Ivey fits in with the young dudes in Detroit. If the Cavs win another 55-65 games in the regular season and flame out again in Round 2, I would say it'd be time to blow it up...but the Jazz own their picks in 27, 28, 29 so that's not really an option.
June 23Jun 23 Author Color me shocked that Phoenix (owned by Ishbia) declined a trade by Cleveland (owned by Dan Gilbert).
June 23Jun 23 11 minutes ago, Message Board User said: Color me shocked that Phoenix (owned by Ishbia) declined a trade by Cleveland (owned by Dan Gilbert). Garland has way more upside than Green and Brooks. 40% from 3 last year, much better shooter all around, good handles and locked up for 3 more years. I can't imagine the #10 pick would make them go with the Houston offer, but maybe KD didn't want to go to Cleveland either. Can't really blame him there.
June 23Jun 23 Author 8 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said: but maybe KD didn't want to go to Cleveland either. Can't really blame him there.
June 23Jun 23 28 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said: Garland has way more upside than Green and Brooks. 40% from 3 last year, much better shooter all around, good handles and locked up for 3 more years. I can't imagine the #10 pick would make them go with the Houston offer, but maybe KD didn't want to go to Cleveland either. Can't really blame him there. garlands one i hope the wolves look at for resolving PG. clevelands payroll is crazy right now, especially 26/27 im not the biggest garland guy but hes young, experienced and can make shots. not sure what itd take tho, especially coming off of toe surgery. Edited June 23Jun 23 by MNLonghornFUKM
June 23Jun 23 The Suns GM was Ishbia’s fraternity brother at Michigan State. Their fanbase is terrified they’ll take Jase Richardson at 10. It would be really funny if it happened.
June 24Jun 24 BREAKING: The Boston Celtics have traded Jrue Holiday to the Portland Trail Blazers for Anfernee Simons and two second-round picks, sources tell ESPN.
June 24Jun 24 7 hours ago, Dutchrudder said: Garland has way more upside than Green and Brooks. 40% from 3 last year, much better shooter all around, good handles and locked up for 3 more years. I can't imagine the #10 pick would make them go with the Houston offer, but maybe KD didn't want to go to Cleveland either. Can't really blame him there. I think it's the 135m+ over the next 3 years with his 15% trade kicker which probably turned Phoenix off. Garland's a fine player but probably not worth that especially without any draft capital. 57 minutes ago, Derka said: Seems like a sucker's bet....
June 24Jun 24 ok well forget about portland being an upcoming dark horse threat in the western conference lol
June 24Jun 24 8 hours ago, RexWilson said: What are the Blazers doing? That is a bad contract to take on.
June 24Jun 24 7 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said: I think it's the 135m+ over the next 3 years with his 15% trade kicker which probably turned Phoenix off. Garland's a fine player but probably not worth that especially without any draft capital. Seems like a sucker's bet.... How in the world could they get Bam?? Unless they are trading AD I'm not even understanding how that would even be possible
June 24Jun 24 5 minutes ago, d2o said: How in the world could they get Bam?? Unless they are trading AD I'm not even understanding how that would even be possible Gonna send them Reaves. He, Herro and Robinson will form the male version of Tres Leches
June 24Jun 24 8 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said: I think it's the 135m+ over the next 3 years with his 15% trade kicker which probably turned Phoenix off. Garland's a fine player but probably not worth that especially without any draft capital. Seems like a sucker's bet.... Nobody ever enforces the trade kickers. I suppose Garland could avoid going to the Suns by not waving it, if he wanted to. I would much rather have him at 40-45m a year than Jalen Green at 33/36/36m a year.
June 24Jun 24 Rumor is they are close to trading Beal to the Hornets. It’s like Bridges, Green and filler going back. PNX would have to kick in the #10 pick they just got. We will see if Beal waives the no trade.
June 24Jun 24 23 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said: why the hell would beal green light this? phoenix could tell him they won't play him if he stays i guess.
June 24Jun 24 32 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said: why the hell would beal green light this? He would probably have a deal in place with CHA to buy him out.
June 24Jun 24 30 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said: why the hell would beal green light this? Man, you'd think at some point being the most unpopular guy in the room would wear on him. Phoenix is about to be a dumpster fire, and the fans are going to hate him and his contract for it. Why not disappear to Charlotte and go back to his calling: putting up empty calories on an Eastern conference also ran.
June 24Jun 24 20 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said: phoenix could tell him they won't play him if he stays i guess. So wait, being told they are going to John Wall you for $50M, $53M, and $57M is a threat to a 13-year vet on the backside of his career?
June 24Jun 24 14 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said: Who will be blamed if KD doesn't win in Houston? I don't think it's a failure if he doesn’t win a title there. You'd like to see him raise Houston's playoff ceiling and make those young guys better. A Finals trip would be a huge success. Durant is going to be 37 this season. Everything is pretty much house-money for him at this point and just moving further up lists that he's already very high on. Unless it turns into a disaster in Houston but barring major injuries it won't. They are too good and too well ran. Edited June 24Jun 24 by ztejas
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