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[Charania] Turner, the longest tenured Pacer, made it known he wished to remain in Indiana. Since the Game 7 exit, Turner’s reps pushed to get a deal done. Ultimately, Indiana’s aversion to the tax, which grew after Tyrese Haliburton’s injury, allowed Bucks to get the new franchise center.

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Windhorst described the Dame buyout as getting a “mortgage on your mortgage”. Biggest buyout previously was $31 million in 2001 for Bison Dele. $23 million in dead cap for the next 5 years in the NBA is INSANE. What a horrible move to try to keep Giannis happy.

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Windhorst described the Dame buyout as getting a “mortgage on your mortgage”. Biggest buyout previously was $31 million in 2001 for Bison Dele. $23 million in dead cap for the next 5 years in the NBA is INSANE. What a horrible move to try to keep Giannis happy.

Giannis isn’t happy
Just now, Fastbreak said:


Giannis isn’t happy

His cousin-in-law

[HAYNES] BREAKING: Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo is not pleased with the team’s decision to waive Damian Lillard, league sources tell me.

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

His cousin-in-law

 

[HAYNES] BREAKING: Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo is not pleased with the team’s decision to waive Damian Lillard, league sources tell me.

Spurs just offered Harrison Barnes and a training table for Giannis. 

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[Charania] The Sacramento Kings are trading Jonas Valanciunas to the Denver Nuggets for Dario Saric, sources tell ESPN.

Denver is having a spectacular off season. If Bruce Brown isn't washed and they can generally stay healthy, I think they're the best team in the league.

I can't believe Milwaukee is eating $22 million for the next five years on Lillard just so they can sign Myles Turner. This is some bonkers shit.

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

[Charania] The Sacramento Kings are trading Jonas Valanciunas to the Denver Nuggets for Dario Saric, sources tell ESPN.

Holy shit Nuggets cooking. Better toward the cap than Yabu at $6M per. Still have powder for another bench contributor.

1 minute ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

Holy shit Nuggets cooking. Better toward the cap than Yabu at $6M per. Still have powder for another bench contributor.

Just shows about fucking bad Boothe was as GM. Denver is swinging this summer 

Had the biggest brain fart lol. I thought they were getting sabonis for saric and shams was hacked


Yea Denver got their back up big and a decent one that. Theyre tier 1 with OKC now

15 hours ago, Message Board User said:

 

 

2 hours ago, MrX said:

SGA supermax done - 4 years 285 mill 

Can someone explain to me how this works? Why is one max 2 years and another 4? And how is the MVP/World Champ worth less per year than Booker? My only memory of Booker is of him being a pouty little bitch in last years playoffs while getting punked nonstop by Luka.

While the Nuggets are getting greedy, may as well ship Zeke Nnaji and Julian Strawther for Josh Giddey in a sign and trade.

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The Kings should be relegated from the NBA for stupidity and generational shittiness. They got horrible value for Valuncianas and are fucking helping the Nuggets have a great offseason. Damn, damn, damn.

New Nuggets GMs doing some work!

Just now, 'stache said:

 

Can someone explain to me how this works? Why is one max 2 years and another 4? And how is the MVP/World Champ worth less per year than Booker? My only memory of Booker is of him being a pouty little bitch in last years playoffs while getting punked nonstop by Luka.

Booker still has 3 yrs left on his deal.   SGA only had one yr left.  They started letting teams extend player when they have 3 yrs or less left recently but a player cannot have more than 5 yrs on the books.   Max salary is calculated based on yrs of service.  Booker has been in the league for 10 so his max is 35% of the cap.   SGA has been in the league for only 7 so his max would be 30%.

 

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1 hour ago, Macklemore said:

Windhorst described the Dame buyout as getting a “mortgage on your mortgage”. Biggest buyout previously was $31 million in 2001 for Bison Dele. $23 million in dead cap for the next 5 years in the NBA is INSANE. What a horrible move to try to keep Giannis happy.

Giannis turning into a high maintenance bitch

14 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

Can someone explain to me how this works? Why is one max 2 years and another 4? And how is the MVP/World Champ worth less per year than Booker? My only memory of Booker is of him being a pouty little bitch in last years playoffs while getting punked nonstop by Luka.

https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2023/06/2023-NBA-Collective-Bargaining-Agreement.pdf

5 minutes ago, d2o said:

Booker still has 3 yrs left on his deal.   SGA only had one yr left.  They started letting teams extend player when they have 3 yrs or less left recently but a player cannot have more than 5 yrs on the books.   Max salary is calculated based on yrs of service.  Booker has been in the league for 10 so his max is 35% of the cap.   SGA has been in the league for only 7 so his max would be 30%.

 

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Thanks. Stupid complicated but that makes sense. If SGA is still at the top of his game when he hits 10 years would he extend at 35%?

Just now, 'stache said:

Thanks. Stupid complicated but that makes sense. If SGA is still at the top of his game when he hits 10 years would he extend at 35%?

Yep, he would then have 2 yrs left and be above 10 yrs of service.   So it would make sense for him to not extend in 2 yrs and wait another yr.

Nuggets front office is putting in work.  Just shows how bad Booth was in that role. I love it.

22 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

you must've learned after getting burned by Brunson

 

Utah on pace to win 3 games next year lol

That wasn't "talking before FA started" that was talking before new year and set up with a bunch of inside forces like his fucking dad working for the team.

Just now, Dutchrudder said:

NBA off-season is the best off-season.

We were warned it was going to be a very interesting offseason

Dude, Denver. Save some for the rest of us. Atlanta, Houston, and Denver are having incredible off-seasons. New Orleans and Milwaukee, not so much. At least they’re world class drinking towns.

44 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Nuggets front office is putting in work.  Just shows how bad Booth was in that role. I love it.

Crazy how Booth had to give up 3 2nds to offload Reggie Jackson’s 1 year 5 mil deal when Reggie actually played and contributed, albeit not great. Booth really fucked us post ship, GD. Maybe we should thank Booth for his idiotic player option for Saric considering we were able to get Jonas for him haha.

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

My only memory of Booker is of him being a pouty little bitch in last years playoffs while getting punked nonstop by Luka.

Last year? You mean 3 years ago?

6 minutes ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

Crazy how Booth had to give up 3 2nds to offload Reggie Jackson’s 1 year 5 mil deal when Reggie actually played and contributed, albeit not great. Booth really fucked us post ship, GD. Maybe we should thank Booth for his idiotic player option for Saric considering we were able to get Jonas for him haha.

Reported as a straight up swap. Did not even have to throw in some basketballs or a 12 pack of Coors Banquet 

White boy summer in Charlotte - Connaughton 

47 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Reported as a straight up swap. Did not even have to throw in some basketballs or a 12 pack of Coors Banquet 

Ya when I saw the trade I was sure there had to be more to it, but we don’t have tradeable picks aside from a 2032 2nd, if I’m not mistaken. Couldn’t believe straight swap. 
 

So so so glad that Ben Ten Wallace understands the GD assignment.

17 minutes ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

For the same price as Myles Turner. Raptors hate winning.

And I kind of think that's a lot for Turner - but at least he can shoot. 

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Last year? You mean 3 years ago?

Whenever that was, he’s still a bitch.

Just gonna state that working for a company based out of Canada and today being Canada Day with 90% of the office out is really nice for following NBA Free Agency all day. No meetings, NBA TV on the big screen, Reddit, X and surly. LFG Nuggs!

1 hour ago, Dutchrudder said:

NBA off-season is the best off-season.

Yeah and this one has been somewhat tame compared to the last few

5 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

The Nets are bottoming the fuck out. They are taking on a salary that they need anyway to get to the salary floor and in return getting an unprotected first round pick when Jokic is like 37 years old. They can also trade MPJ probably for another first round pick at the deadline in 2027 when his contract is expiring. It's textbook use of cap space for a tanking team. They still have more assets to deal. More tanking, more pick collecting, etc.

Their unprotected 2027 belongs to the Rockets though.

2 hours ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

Ya when I saw the trade I was sure there had to be more to it, but we don’t have tradeable picks aside from a 2032 2nd, if I’m not mistaken. Couldn’t believe straight swap. 
 

So so so glad that Ben Ten Wallace understands the GD assignment.

Tim Hardaway Jr. to the Nuggets

Jokic got a backup and an actual bench in one offseason

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Tim Hardaway Jr. to the Nuggets

Jokic got a backup and an actual bench in one offseason

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What the actual fuck was Booth doing the last couple of years? That dude must’ve thought he got paid for fighting Malone.

Lol they got him for the vet min.

That said his #s have been bad for a few seasons now. We'll see if Jokic can breathe some life into him. 

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Consensus offseason winners seem to be Houston, Denver, Atlanta

1 minute ago, Kermit said:

What the actual fuck was Booth doing the last couple of years? That dude must’ve thought he got paid for fighting Malone.

I'm more pissed off about last offseason seeing what they have done with fewer resources than Booth had (since he loved handing out picks and player options).

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Tim Hardaway Jr. to the Nuggets

Jokic got a backup and an actual bench in one offseason

And the amazing part is they did all that while improving their cap situation substantially.

And the Nuggets already have a new coach in place, so good for them!

Hey New York, how's that coach search coming along?

48 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Tim Hardaway Jr. to the Nuggets

Jokic got a backup and an actual bench in one offseason

Incredible. We have the ability to add one more, but pretty sure we’d have to go over the first apron which I think we’re gonna avoid so we don’t get the repeat offender. FO said they wanted perimeter d, shooting and big man depth. After one full day of FA: check, check and check!

I picked an excellent fucking time to take over my buddy’s half season ticket for the Nuggs a few months ago.

1 hour ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

Incredible. We have the ability to add one more, but pretty sure we’d have to go over the first apron which I think we’re gonna avoid so we don’t get the repeat offender. FO said they wanted perimeter d, shooting and big man depth. After one full day of FA: check, check and check!

I picked an excellent fucking time to take over my buddy’s half season ticket for the Nuggs a few months ago.

And if Holmes can contribute next year, that's just icing on the cake.  They can go from having too few bench players to guys fighting for minutes off the bench.

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