December 3Dec 3 11 minutes ago, Js1 said: Think Elliot has just cultivated a culture where you can be yourself and whatever motivates you is what motivates you. That may be. But the team sure attracts a ton of players of faith.
December 3Dec 3 Author 2 minutes ago, SL Xpress said: That may be. But the team sure attracts a ton of players of faith. It does, but that's not unusual for athletes though. I would think Elliot just has a very accepting locker room - I have never gotten the vibe that it is basically mandatory, like Baylor, or OU softball.
December 3Dec 3 1 hour ago, Js1 said: It does, but that's not unusual for athletes though. I would think Elliot just has a very accepting locker room - I have never gotten the vibe that it is basically mandatory, like Baylor, or OU softball. No way it's mandatory. That's just not how it works.
December 3Dec 3 2 hours ago, gsoda3 said: No way it's mandatory. That's just not how it works. He's not being literal. He's just saying it's such a huge part of the culture of the team that it's difficult for a non believer to fit in. I honestly didn't know that OU softball really emphasizes it. Baylor prays after every match and invites the opponent to join them. Texas has always joined them.
December 3Dec 3 Author 13 minutes ago, SL Xpress said: He's not being literal. He's just saying it's such a huge part of the culture of the team that it's difficult for a non believer to fit in. I honestly didn't know that OU softball really emphasizes it. Baylor prays after every match and invites the opponent to join them. Texas has always joined them. Gasso’s program is basically an evangelical church
December 3Dec 3 Yeah, contrary to current popular belief, an organization can encourage or at least welcome religion by not endorsing any single brand or flavor of it. Edited December 3Dec 3 by TwiceHorn
December 4Dec 4 Maybe. I don't think that's entirely realistic, although a nice idea. But this is the volleyball thread, and we're about to enter the tournament. I just know Texas players speak about their faith more openly in interviews than players for other teams. That's my observation.
December 4Dec 4 13 hours ago, Js1 said: Gasso’s program is basically an evangelical church "Our team loves Jesus." Oh my. Yes, I can see what you're saying. 'Our Team Loves Jesus'—Oklahoma Softball Players, Coach Patty Gasso Flourish in Culture of Faith Apparently they basically have team chapel services before Sunday games.
December 4Dec 4 Why are you a stupid fuck that wants to bring law into everything? No one fucking cares, you goddamn fucking idiot. Quit fucking up the volleyball thread, you stupid fuck.
December 4Dec 4 3 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said: Why are you a stupid fuck that wants to bring law into everything? No one fucking cares, you goddamn fucking idiot. Quit fucking up the volleyball thread, you stupid fuck. You're the biggest cunt on this board. Bar none. Cunt.
December 4Dec 4 Perfect, but I don’t derail very good threads with stupid-ass shit. I post about volleyball in volleyball threads. You’re too goddamn fucking stupid to grasp that.
December 4Dec 4 1 minute ago, shadow_operative2.0 said: Perfect, but I don’t derail very good threads with stupid-ass shit. I post about volleyball in volleyball threads. You’re too goddamn fucking stupid to grasp that. You're a cunt. We're talking about the goddamn volleyball team, based on an article about a volleyball player for that team. And, in case you hadn't noticed, there's no games going on. Cunt.
December 4Dec 4 Please, Twice, you stupid mother fucker, enlighten me how this has any mother fucking thing to do with 2025 Texas volleyball. Quote Yeah, contrary to current popular belief, an organization can encourage or at least welcome religion by not endorsing any single brand or flavor of it. Edited December 4Dec 4 by shadow_operative2.0
December 4Dec 4 2 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said: Please, Twice, you stupid mother fucker, enlighten me how this has any mother fucking thing to do with 2025 Texas volleyball. You're too fucking stupid to get it. But I'll fucking spell it out for you. Torrey Stafford, a 2025 Texas Volleyball player, in the quoted article, made several allusions to her faith and to a family atmosphere. Madi Skinner made similar remarks at other times, as have other players. Two posters that contribute more on this thread than you do commented upon it, as did I. Edited December 4Dec 4 by TwiceHorn
December 4Dec 4 2 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said: You’re old & stupid. It’s best you shut up now. I may be old, I'm not stupid, but at least I'm not a fucking cunt. Cunt..
December 4Dec 4 Ha, old-ass Twice edited later. No one gives a shit about faith. Quit being being old. This is a volleyball thread. Edited December 4Dec 4 by shadow_operative2.0
December 4Dec 4 Just now, shadow_operative2.0 said: Ha, old-ass Twice edited later. No one gives a shit about faith. Quit being being old. This a volleyball thread. Cunt.
December 4Dec 4 Do you really think cunt is a badass post? I am still waiting for you to make a volleyball post on this page.
December 4Dec 4 Just now, shadow_operative2.0 said: Do you really think cunt is a badass post? I am still waiting for you to make a volleyball post on this page. No I think you're a cunt and most everyone else does too. Go stalk some internet whores.
December 4Dec 4 Fucking old dude saying cunt over & over, hope he has a nurse close if his heart stops.
December 4Dec 4 Author Man we definitely should have spent yesterday talking about all the volleyball going on Oh wait no, the tournament starts today
December 4Dec 4 Just now, shadow_operative2.0 said: Fucking old dude saying cunt over & over, hope he has a nurse close if his heart stops. Lol. Cunt.
December 4Dec 4 Damn, Twice, I honestly never thought you were this useless. You have proven me wrong.
December 4Dec 4 Author All times eastern and on ESPN+ Thursday, Dec. 4 3 p.m. | No. 5 Colorado vs. American 4:30 p.m. | No. 6 Baylor vs. Arkansas State 4:30 p.m. | No. 8 UCLA vs. Georgia Tech 5 p.m. | No. 5 Miami (Florida) vs. Tulsa 5:30 p.m. | No. 4 Indiana vs. Toledo 5:30 p.m. | No. 6 UNI vs. Utah 5:30 p.m. | No. 6 UTEP vs. North Carolina 6:30 p.m. | No. 7 Tennessee vs. Utah State 7 p.m. | No. 1 Kentucky vs. Wofford 7 p.m. | No. 3 Purdue vs. Wright State 7:30 p.m. | No. 4 Kansas vs. High Point 8 p.m. | No. 5 BYU vs. Cal Poly 8 p.m. | No. 3 Creighton vs. Northern Colorado 8 p.m. | No. 3 Wisconsin vs. Eastern Illinois 9 p.m. | No. 2 Arizona State vs. Coppin State 10:30 p.m. | No. 4 Southern California vs. Princeton
December 4Dec 4 I'll be honest. I have a rough time with these first two rounds. All the upsets seem immaterial, because they're just blasted out of the next round or at regionals. Obviously I get excited for our matchups, and Penn State is a pretty big name to be slated for the second round matchup. Probably the biggest name school we've ever faced that early. Partly because it doesn't get much bigger than the Nittany Lions. I bet at least 13 of the 16 hosts of the first two rounds make it to regionals. And at least half of the regional hosts make it to the Final Four. And that's being conservative.
December 4Dec 4 25 minutes ago, SL Xpress said: I'll be honest. I have a rough time with these first two rounds. All the upsets seem immaterial, because they're just blasted out of the next round or at regionals. Obviously I get excited for our matchups, and Penn State is a pretty big name to be slated for the second round matchup. Probably the biggest name school we've ever faced that early. Partly because it doesn't get much bigger than the Nittany Lions. I bet at least 13 of the 16 hosts of the first two rounds make it to regionals. And at least half of the regional hosts make it to the Final Four. And that's being conservative. Yes, the volleyball tournament is generally chalky and you will almost never see an unseeded team make the final 4 like you occasionally will in baseball and to a lesser extent basketball. Baseball probably has the most parity, but part of that is due to the variability between a bad team having a batting average of .230 and an elite team having a batting average of .280. Leads to more unpredictable outcomes. Volleyball, football, and tennis have more predictable outcomes based on roster talent. Edited December 4Dec 4 by perfectchaos007
December 4Dec 4 Author Yep, in VB, you might get an unseeded team (or a team seeded 5-8) in the regional semifinals. Wouldn't bet too much on them going any further. Same with WBB - usually the superior talent and coaching beats back any potential upsets of teams outside the top 16 by the Sweet 16. The most notable I can think of in the last 5-ish years was 10 seed Creighton making the Elite 8 in 2022 and 9 seed Miami making the Elite 8 in 2023. In VB, an 11 seed won it all (2004) and an unseeded team made the finals (BYU) in 2014. Been a long time. I think softball might be the least chalky - there's also an unseeded team or two (or three sometimes) in the WCWS, and one made it all the way to the finals in 2022 (holla). Edited December 4Dec 4 by Js1
December 4Dec 4 14 minutes ago, Js1 said: I think softball might be the least chalky - there's also an unseeded team or two (or three sometimes) in the WCWS, and one made it all the way to the finals in 2022 (holla). I'd be curious to see softball vs baseball over 10 yrs or so. Would bet anything softball is more chalk.
December 4Dec 4 Author 1 minute ago, Mittens said: I'd be curious to see softball vs baseball over 10 yrs or so. Would bet anything softball is more chalk. It's really been the past 5 years I think that softball has started showing more parity. Some teams seeded nationally 8-16 would make the WCWS, but it was really in the last 5 years, starting with JMU in 2021, that you started to get 1-2 (or more) unseeded teams in OKC. In the umbrella of women's bracket sports, softball is least chalky. But its way chalkier than NCAA baseball. Baseball has 5 unseeded champions since 2008
December 4Dec 4 Here's an interesting stat. This year will be the fourth year in a row that a Texas transfer was named 1st team All American.
December 4Dec 4 Author Baylor up 2-1 on Ark State GT up 2-1 on UCLA Miami up 2-1 on Tulsa UTEP and UNC 1-1 Utah up 2-0 on UNI
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