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22 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

You're telling me that none of those teams have a lot to work on is absolute nonsense, and you know it. You're having a knee-jerk reaction. 

I never said none of those teams aren't flawed.  I'm saying the upper tier of those teams (UGA, OU, A&M and Vandy) certainly look less flawed than we do.  And the offense we rolled out yesterday could absolutely manage to lose a road game at UF, UK or MSU.  It's not "knee jerk" when you have a 3 game sample size and week 3 was worst performance yet when adjusting for opponent.

We pretty much had to run Arch to move chains yesterday against f'n UTEP.  That is OU 2024 in a nutshell.  I'm not saying we can't improve and I'm not "expecting" 6-6.  But I don't know what the answers are either.  Arch either figures it out mentally by conference play or we have to try to win rock fights with Caldwell.   I would feel better about our ability to do that if our interior OL wasn't terrible.   I don't understand how Stroh is our best option.  

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Holy hell, we don't play Florida for 3 weeks and they're turning into what we expected.  Yeah, if Arch plays like he did yesterday that's gonna kill our season, but it's not as if most of those were forced errors.  This mostly comes down to fixing his fucked head.  We'll see if that's possible, but this is not a talent or coaching issue, not by a long shot.

3 hours ago, scramblyn said:

Plus they develop somewhere else with the potential of learning the QB mechanics from an anti-milwee 

This shit is so funny to me. Do you honestly believe Milwee is having the greatest influence on the mechanics of Arch Fucking Manning? This dude grew up tossing the rock surrounded by Mannings. If his mechanics are fucked up, they are what they are. 

1 minute ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

This shit is so funny to me. Do you honestly believe Milwee is having the greatest influence on the mechanics of Arch Fucking Manning? This dude grew up tossing the rock surrounded by Mannings. If his mechanics are fucked up, they are what they are. 

Supposedly his mechanics were good now they aren’t. The fuck I know I’m not a coach. Ewers got worse or didn’t improve. Yada yada yada.

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Holy hell, we don't play Florida for 3 weeks and they're turning into what we expected.  Yeah, if Arch plays like he did yesterday that's gonna kill our season, but it's not as if most of those were forced errors.  This mostly comes down to fixing his fucked head.  We'll see if that's possible, but this is not a talent or coaching issue, not by a long shot.

The pressure only ramps up from here.

11 hours ago, TommyGufano said:

Welp, i think the TE room might be good. And Goosby can play. Other than that I'm struggling to find anything to get excited about on offense. What the fuck

TE room looks legit. James Simon looks legit, haven't seen a UT back breaking tackles like that in a while. The receivers look good, Livingstone should have had 2 more TDs yesterday but Arch didnt put the ball within 5 yds of him. He was open by several steps. 

Sark ran about 60 percent zone blocking plays in the running game, so it's no wonder the line looked bad. I don't get what the fuck he's seeing. Is he saving the 90 percent gap and power ratio calls for Florida? 

For the first time I'm really starting to wonder if Sark needs a dedicated OC. He definitely needs to get rid of Milwee. Can't have 2 QB regress under your watch and not get shit canned. 

I know a lot are down on flood but I'm in the minority that our olines are fine. 

We are a light years ahead of Mack Brown and whatever the previous 2 regimes put out. 

We had most of our line drafted ffs. 

Should he be OC ? Fuck no

Fire Mildew into the sun and hire the best fucking OC and QB coach and get it done 

Milwee was a big part of that recruitment and a relationship got formed between him and the Mannings. At least at one point they were big fans of his. Wonder where things stand now. 

I'm not as high on the TEs as some of you apparently are.  Maybe it is because we haven't targeted them enough in the passing game, but I feel like when we go 12 personnel that just brings one more defender into the box, and now we have to execute seven blocks to have a successful run, and chances are one of of the seven will get beat.  Maybe it would still be mediocre, but I'd like to see 11 personnel, flex Endries out and then run the backs with Arch as a backside constraint.

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A lot of you are making this very complicated.  The QB is missing wide open receivers and targets who are a few yards away from him.   That's the problem. Not the coach, not the tight ends, not the line, not the QB coach, not the defensive end.

People like to feel like the world isn't random. It's why conspiracy theories exist. It's why people look to blame politicians after natural disasters. No one wants to admit the universe is a scary, random place. 

The QB has randomly lost the ability to throw, there is no one to blame, and there is no remedy available. We are all left to hope it randomly changes.

People are desperately looking to spread blame because they don’t want to accept the truth. 
 

Those watching fall camp were under the impression this team would compete for a national championship. One player has ultimately changed that outlook. To me this means Arch was at least a serviceable QB in practice who could lead this team to an outstanding season. Then came the pressure and expectations. Not everyone is built for that scenario and some simply take time to adjust. The reason is in his head.

Regarding QE also “regressing”, one has to simply look at the odds of a blue chip high school QB (or hell, even a 1st round draft pick) actually having the “it” factor and meeting expectations, to understand it’s quite possible neither had “it”.

17 minutes ago, fellside said:

there is no remedy available. We are all left to hope it randomly changes.

Negative , we have two backups 

17 minutes ago, fellside said:

A lot of you are making this very complicated.  The QB is missing wide open receivers and targets who are a few yards away from him.   That's the problem. Not the coach, not the tight ends, not the line, not the QB coach, not the defensive end.

People like to feel like the world isn't random. It's why conspiracy theories exist. It's why people look to blame politicians after natural disasters. No one wants to admit the universe is a scary, random place. 

The QB has randomly lost the ability to throw, there is no one to blame, and there is no remedy available. We are all left to hope it randomly changes.

I agree its very likely simple, but it doesn't feel that random to me. The expectations for the guy are through the roof, there's not any wiggle room in there. Its gotten to him. 

6 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Then why did you assert this?

Enough with this bullshit yips mental shit. That shit is okay for isolated stretch in a game, not 3 game stretches especially vs bad competition.

 

It wouldn't shock me if he has some injury that isn't helping, but that guy is clearly in his own head.  See (for instance) Chuck Knoblach.

Or for us olds, Steve Blass.

5 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

People are desperately looking to spread blame because they don’t want to accept the truth. 

Calling out our OL isn't necessarily spreading blame.  Granted it was an anticipated weakness but probably also falls into the category of worse than expected.  I thought we would struggle against good defenses but also expected us to be able to run at will against SJSU and UTEP and that wasn't the case.  Remember when last year we could just lean on the running game to close out games against UK, A&M and Clemson?  Don't think we'll be able to do that this year.  Which of course exacerbates the Arch problem.  

1 minute ago, Skipper said:

Calling out our OL isn't necessarily spreading blame.  Granted it was an anticipated weakness but probably also falls into the category of worse than expected.  I thought we would struggle against good defenses but also expected us to be able to run at will against SJSU and UTEP and that wasn't the case.  Remember when last year we could just lean on the running game to close out games against UK, A&M and Clemson?  Don't think we'll be able to do that this year.  Which of course exacerbates the Arch problem.  

I should have been more clear, as I was mainly referring to the Sark/Milwee blame. 
 

I knew the OL would be more of a liability than many were willing to discuss. There were too many very important pieces being replaced. OL’s take time to work well together. When you have a QB who can’t hit the floor when he falls out of bed and doesn’t run often, it allows the DL to absolutely pin their ears back.

5 hours ago, William Bludworth said:

Well the good news is so are the teams we face going forward. They are all flawed. I don't predict we'll blow them out or anything, but we will out-athlete them at some point in the game. I know we have to lean on our defense, but we can score (even if it is a miracle). I just cannot see any of those teams moving the ball against us, but we can use our superior athletes to get something. These games may end up something like 17-13 going forward, but I still think we win. Georgia is just unpredictable. Just my personal opinion, and if anyone disagrees, I completely understand. This is why I  do not put Arch in the "he'll make it happen". Our O-line sucks ass flagellation, but our RB's still pushed through, and we have 4 to rotate. At some point Arch will complete a pass to either Jaggy or Wingo for another TD or two. Hopefully he can find Moore/McCutcheon or Lockett/Endries. I still have faith we can win with Arch, just not Arch winning it for us. 

Yeah, just like Texas manged to out-athlete the Big 12 in spite of mediocre QB and OL play for a decade plus, right?

Just like OU, at #7 in the 247 talent composite for 2024, out talented most of its schedule? Or Florida State, at #13, running through the ACC?

I don't know how a Texas fan can make a comment like this with a straight face. How do you not know better? Don't overestimate how far athletic talent takes you when said talent sucks at football. Right now, a lot of the offense sucks at football. And the 1.000 talent really sucks at quarterback.

 

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2 hours ago, cafe society said:

Or for us olds, Steve Blass.

The one that I keep thinking about is Rick Ankiel.

 

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LSU and South Carolina's offenses looked just as bad as ours or even worse. LSU can't run the ball for shit and Sellers has looked just as lost as Manning and can't stay healthy. 

9 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

We're 42 point favorites against Sam Houston because vegas is stupid. If we even score 40 points I will be stunned. 

that under is free money pending this morning's presser and a sark announcement that arch isn't starting

8 hours ago, Ricky Butler said:

Thank you! He also can’t even take the time to understand what the yips are. An unexplainable mental block suffered by elite athletes. 

for the 3rd time in 24 hours, he needs to wear a garter belt even if it shows through his pants

1 hour ago, Blackcat00 said:

LSU and South Carolina's offenses looked just as bad as ours or even worse. LSU can't run the ball for shit and Sellers has looked just as lost as Manning and can't stay healthy. 

I mean yes but those are conference games

they need to take a serious look at the football program GM - where positions of need improved through the portal ?

Why are y’all continuing to argue with the resident idiot? Most of us have the dipshit on ignore for a reason and yet y’all continue to quote him and subject us to his drivel.

Spence got a lot of offseason hype for a dozen snaps per game

45 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Spence got a lot of offseason hype for a dozen snaps per game

Who would you take off the field for him?

12 hours ago, fellside said:

A lot of you are making this very complicated.  The QB is missing wide open receivers and targets who are a few yards away from him.   That's the problem. Not the coach, not the tight ends, not the line, not the QB coach, not the defensive end.

What was the Saban quote? Something like, "You're talking about mouse shit, and there is elephant shit all over the room." 

Playcalling, coaching decisions, issues with certain players on defense....that is the mouse shit.

Arch consistently missing, in a huge way, wide open receivers....that is the elephant shit.

2 hours ago, Not a Sock said:

Why are y’all continuing to argue with the resident idiot? Most of us have the dipshit on ignore for a reason and yet y’all continue to quote him and subject us to his drivel.

Going to need you to be a bit more specific.

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Someone posted this on OTF, pretty funny…

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Funny how? What’s funny about it?

7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Someone posted this on OTF, pretty funny…

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That looks worse than the 2 Florida players blocking each other. 

7 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Funny how? What’s funny about it?

Funny like I amuse you?

Someone posted this on OTF, pretty funny…
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Scipio mentioned the old coaches adage of “who is on the ground when the play is over” in regards to our OL, and how often they just fall to the ground during a play. Fun stuff.
1 minute ago, Red Five said:


Scipio mentioned the old coaches adage of “who is on the ground when the play is over” in regards to our OL, and how often they just fall to the ground during a play. Fun stuff.

Stroh is constantly on the ground for us. 

11 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Funny like I amuse you?

martin scorsese goodfellas GIF

1 hour ago, cmontexas said:

Spence got a lot of offseason hype for a dozen snaps per game

I like the way they're rotating depth there. 

Let the young boys cook early

I mean shit, how many coaches on our staff have been fired as HCs from other schools? 3? That’s gotta be a record. 

11 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

The one that I keep thinking about is Rick Ankiel.

That was really uncalled for.

At this point I'm beginning to wonder what the Milwee does. He's been Sark's hand-selected apprentice for six years. If he's not ready to take on the OC role and play calling responsibilities, what does he bring to the table? What's been the point of keeping him around for so long? He doesn't appear to be in danger of being poached.The one guy/position he coaches is sucking ass. I'm getting Eric Bieniemy vibes here.  

At this point I'm beginning to wonder what the Milwee does. He's been Sark's hand-selected apprentice for six years. If he's not ready to take on the OC role and play calling responsibilities, what does he bring to the table? What's been the point of keeping him around for so long? He doesn't appear to be in danger of being poached.The one guy/position he coaches is sucking ass. I'm getting Eric Bieniemy vibes here.  

He’s responsible for our QBs always having amazing mechanics.
14 hours ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

People are desperately looking to spread blame because they don’t want to accept the truth. 
 

Those watching fall camp were under the impression this team would compete for a national championship. One player has ultimately changed that outlook. To me this means Arch was at least a serviceable QB in practice who could lead this team to an outstanding season. Then came the pressure and expectations. Not everyone is built for that scenario and some simply take time to adjust. The reason is in his head.

Regarding QE also “regressing”, one has to simply look at the odds of a blue chip high school QB (or hell, even a 1st round draft pick) actually having the “it” factor and meeting expectations, to understand it’s quite possible neither had “it”.

that's all fair but RB fumbles, disappearing acts from sark in the third quarter, miserable play calling on 4th down and in the red zone, OL troubles add to Quinn's failures that still took us to two straight semi-finals. QE clearly couldn't over come those problems that weren't his fault and he was a self sacking artist and a fumbler and tumbler but I wonder if some of those other issues were resolved if he wasn't good enough to win it all. controversial but I think QE was "this close" to being a back to back national championship QB. I really do, which is not to down play some idoitic tendencies of his.

25 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

At this point I'm beginning to wonder what the Milwee does. He's been Sark's hand-selected apprentice for six years. If he's not ready to take on the OC role and play calling responsibilities, what does he bring to the table? What's been the point of keeping him around for so long? He doesn't appear to be in danger of being poached.The one guy/position he coaches is sucking ass. I'm getting Eric Bieniemy vibes here.  

I think the idea is that Milwee and Flood are supposed to help formulate the gameplan and be the lead voices in the room when Sark has to go to a defensive meeting or whatever. I've heard the analyst they promoted to assistant QB coach (Bimonte) is pretty involved too and is who sits in the box as the eyes in the sky for the offense.

Maybe it has changed, but several years ago, I heard a second-hand story about a game where Sark was on the headset asking the offensive assistants for recommendations/suggestions and was basically met with crickets. 

On 9/14/2025 at 9:07 AM, closetojumping said:

@Red Five

We finally know why Sarkisian went out and got Caldwell. We were told it was related to concerns with Owens. Now I realize that the dude was watching Arch Knoblauch in practices and scrimmages and realized he needed some form of a backup plan, asap. 

The problem is that now Sark needs to have the balls to pull Manning and play Caldwell. I'm not holding my breath. 

On 9/14/2025 at 10:12 AM, Hookem2147 said:

CJ Vogel just posted the full snap counts

Defense

Out of 61 total snaps.

  • 45 – Jaylon Guilbeau
  • 42 – Michael Taaffe
  • 40 – Jelani McDonald, Anthony Hill Jr., Hero Kanu
  • 36 – Liona Lefau
  • 35 – Malik Muhammad
  • 34 – Graceson Littleton
  • 31 – Maraad Watson, Trey Moore
  • 30 – Colin Simmons
  • 29 – Ethan Burke, TyAnthony Smith
  • 24 – Zina Umeozulu
  • 23 – Cole Brevard
  • 20 – Jordan Johnson-Rubell, Derek Williams Jr.
  • 19 – Wardell Mack
  • 18 – Warren Roberson
  • 17 – Kade Phillips
  • 15 – Lance Jackson
  • 13 – Brad Spence, Travis Shaw
  • 11 – Colton Vasek
  • 8 – Melvin Hills
  • 5 – Kobe Black
  • 3 – Josiah Sharma

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Offense

Out of 85 total snaps.

  • 85 – Brandon Baker, Trevor Goosby, DJ Campbell, Connor Stroh
  • 81 – Arch Manning
  • 78 – Parker Livingstone
  • 75 – Ryan Wingo
  • 66 – Cole Hutson
  • 62 – Jack Endries
  • 31 – Spencer Shannon, Jerrick Gibson
  • 28 – Christian Clark
  • 26 – James Simon
  • 24 – Ryan Niblett
  • 23 – Daylan McCutcheon
  • 19 – Connor Robertson
  • 16 – Jordan Washington
  • 13 – Nick Townsend
  • 8 – Aaron Butler
  • 5 – Emaree Winston
  • 4 – Kaliq Lockett, Matthew Caldwell
  • 1 – CJ Baxter

Connor Stroh with all 85 snaps. I'm not sure there's a bigger indictment of Sark's coaching this season than that right there. 

On 9/13/2025 at 9:06 PM, sith_horn said:

 

I've linked it to start with Sarkisian.  Drag it back to start if you want to hear Arch.

Look at Arch's body language and tone. He's saying all the right things, but he looks completely defeated. This shit isn't righting itself any time soon. 

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Unfriendly reminder to idiots posting on this thread about Quinn Ewers and what all that entails - there is a thread dedicated to that shit, so go the fuck over there with Ewers stories and fantasies. Thanks.

In other news, clearly something that is happening right now that isn't working is Sarkisian getting way too fucking cute with personnel and playcalling management. 

Regarding personnel, yeah, January can't go because he's got a throat injury. Maybe Baxter can't go with a real hamstring injury. A lot of the other guys being held out for dings and cuts need to be getting reps with their units, as much for the unit as for the player. "It's a long season" as a refrain sounds dumber than a soliloquy from Spider2YWhateverTheFuckThatIdiotIsCallingHimselfNow. This is not a playoff team as currently presented. This is 1991 Texas incarnate. Get guys out there and figure out some cohesiveness, as they all might be/probably are playing 13 games max this season.

If Sarkisian and his combover idiot friend know that Yips Manning isn't going to be fixing much by Florida, have some fucking courage and put in the Caldwell spare early against SHSU and let's see what he can do with the first team unit. 

Regarding playcalling, it's time to go in the bag a bit for Arch Rocker and let him cut some deep balls loose, early. If he lands a few of those, maybe that loosens the guy up and his bugs get fixed. If that happens and he's still Glitch Manning, then go back to the earlier point about Caldwell. Get him in there. At some point, Texas needs to be running the actual offense that Sarkisian wants it to run. This is a brutally inexperienced offense. They need to be figuring out how the actual playbook functions at full speed and seeing reps there.

Other personnel things that should be getting analyzed are:

1) LG - they played Stroh with the 1st unit exclusively in order to get them gelling. How did that work out? If progress isn't being made there, let someone else get similar reps in this next game. 

2) 3rd String QB - Lacey has passed Owens. However, they want him to redshirt. If Arch Knoblauch isn't functional and Caldwell gets hurt or sucks as well, Lacey would ostensibly be the guy. All 5'10", 170 pounds of him. So get the guy reps against SHSU in the second half and let him run the offense. 

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26 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I think the idea is that Milwee and Flood are supposed to help formulate the gameplan and be the lead voices in the room when Sark has to go to a defensive meeting or whatever. I've heard the analyst they promoted to assistant QB coach (Bimonte) is pretty involved too and is who sits in the box as the eyes in the sky for the offense.

Maybe it has changed, but several years ago, I heard a second-hand story about a game where Sark was on the headset asking the offensive assistants for recommendations/suggestions and was basically met with crickets. 

It feels like the natural end to this is offseason upheaval that brings in fresh ideas. Sark did it really well during PK's first year when the once great DC had no answers during a rough season. Will Sark spice up his own offensive stew? He's already had his life's greatest comeuppance, so I assume he won't be to stubborn to adjust.

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