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When did he "re-injure" his hamstring, and when is his expected return?

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

When did he "re-injure" his hamstring, and when is his expected return?

He injured it twice during baseball season, and it happened again sometime like a week or two into camp. 

I don't have any info, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's just redshirted for the year. Otherwise, maybe SEC play. 

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I didn't hear about camp.  That sucks.  Dude is electric.

It wasn't a big deal that was made about it, he just kept being held out and folks said "it's the hamstring again."

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That was a pass from Manning too. You can tell because Wingo is downfield catching the ball and running after the catch.

2 hours ago, Red Five said:

That was a pass from Manning too. You can tell because Wingo is downfield catching the ball and running after the catch.

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2 hours ago, Red Five said:

That was a pass from Manning too. You can tell because Wingo is downfield catching the ball and running after the catch.

Wanted to rep with both laugh and rage emojis. 


"As I asked in my Ifs List, however, what if Manning is merely very good? What if he flashes epic upside -- like he did against UTSA, completing passes of 75, 51 and 36 yards and ripping off a 67-yard touchdown run in less than 30 snaps -- but also gets fooled at times, like he did against Louisiana-Monroe (and in cameos against Georgia and Florida)? What if he needs an unproven receiving corps to bail him out and an unproven offensive line to protect him more?"
Fair write up. Arch will struggle but if he can scramble for first / touch downs look out.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45807129/2025-sec-college-football-projections-preview
Anyone expecting more than typical first year starter shenanigans (flashes of brilliance followed by flashes of wtf) is going to be disappointed. That said, I think Sark has collected enough high quality that if Arch struggles at times we still win games we struggle based on sheer talent level. I'll take it either way.
If we are pre-season number 1 it will be hype like we have never seen before, mainly because we have never been pre-season number 1 before (I was kinda shocked by that). 
Shit, you're right. I would have thought at least one of DKR teams would have been pre-season #1, but nope.
18 minutes ago, ousux said:

Anyone expecting more than typical first year starter shenanigans (flashes of brilliance followed by flashes of wtf) is going to be disappointed. That said, I think Sark has collected enough high quality that if Arch struggles at times we still win games we struggle based on sheer talent level. I'll take it either way.

Well, regarding Saturday:  both teams have many of the same question marks.  I'll take our QB who has 2 starts over theirs who doesn't.  After that, we have three relative cupcakes which should help solidify Arch + offense for the rest of the season.

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, regarding Saturday:  both teams have many of the same question marks.  I'll take our QB who has 2 starts over theirs who doesn't.  After that, we have three relative cupcakes which should help solidify Arch + offense for the rest of the season.

I'll be disappointed if the 2nd Teamers don't get to play at least a half in the next 3 games

24 minutes ago, ousux said:

That said, I think Sark has collected enough high quality that if Arch struggles at times we still win games we struggle based on sheer talent level.

I mean yeah, we managed to do with Ewers quite a bit 

6 hours ago, Texasborn91 said:

Alrighty, that’s enough baseball bullshit. 

Screw that. He's a spark for the baseball team. He's a very talented athlete - he can handle both.

7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I mean yeah, we managed to do with Ewers quite a bit 

Yeah.  I think we will have fewer periods where our offense doesn't do shit for a whole quarter with Arch than we did with Quinn.

On 8/20/2025 at 4:59 PM, ztejas said:

Texas is not playing an away game at Army or Navy lmao. 

Army’s Michie stadium is the single most beautiful cfb stadium in the country. And it isn’t even remotely close. 

2 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

Army’s Michie stadium is the single most beautiful cfb stadium in the country. And it isn’t even remotely close. 

One of my cousins played football for Army.  I regret never going to one of their home games:

Michie Stadium in upstate New York is home to the United States Military  Academy (West Point) football team. It is dramatically situated along the  Hudson River and opened in 1924.

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

One of my cousins played football for Army.  I regret never going to one of their home games:

Michie Stadium in upstate New York is home to the United States Military  Academy (West Point) football team. It is dramatically situated along the  Hudson River and opened in 1924.

You're not dead yet, old man. 

10 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

Army’s Michie stadium is the single most beautiful cfb stadium in the country. And it isn’t even remotely close. 

I love me some Michie but....

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5 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I don't have any info, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's just redshirted for the year. Otherwise, maybe SEC play. 

Feels pretty useless to use a redshirt on a guy who is likely not sticking around in college to play football for 5 years.

I think you try to see if he can become a special teams guy this year.

17 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Screw that. He's a spark for the baseball team. He's a very talented athlete - he can handle both.

Based off the impact he had this year in baseball in limited action, and also our DB depth, I'd probably prefer he choose baseball if he had to choose one sport. That's blasphemy on the football board, I know.

Just now, Hookem2147 said:

Feels pretty useless to use a redshirt on a guy who is likely not sticking around in college to play football for 5 years.

I think you try to see if he can become a special teams guy this year.

I wouldn't trade special teams for a guy who can legit crush it for the baseball team. 

You convince him that long term that hammy needs a break. We're not hurting at Safety. Either he's getting legit reps because he's healthy or it's a waste. I mean unless he's xavier worthy on returns. 

26 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Screw that. He's a spark for the baseball team. He's a very talented athlete - he can handle both.

We don't need football players hurt because they are playing intramurals.

1 hour ago, TrashMaster G said:

Screw that. He's a spark for the baseball team. He's a very talented athlete - he can handle both.

Current evidence suggests otherwise. Also, didn’t expect him to be competing for return duties. Must be faster than I thought.

I don't know anything, but my gut tells me Steve Sarkisian the former college baseball player is going to be patient with whatever decision Jonah Williams wants to make, regardless of how we feel about it. 

1 hour ago, Gidnik said:

Army’s Michie stadium is the single most beautiful cfb stadium in the country. And it isn’t even remotely close. 

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47 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Current evidence suggests otherwise. Also, didn’t expect him to be competing for return duties. Must be faster than I thought.

He didn't finish his senior season because of injuries. Goes into baseball at Texas and gets injured. Goes into football and gets injured in the first week of camp. 

Yeah, this dude can't handle both. 

He didn't stretch his collarbone well enough in high school.

1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

I don't know anything, but my gut tells me Steve Sarkisian the former college baseball player is going to be patient with whatever decision Jonah Williams wants to make, regardless of how we feel about it. 

NIL may play a factor in forcing a decision, yeah? 

7 hours ago, texifornia said:

I love me some Michie but....

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You're fucking high if you think Cal stadium has a nicer looking setting than army's.

44 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

You're fucking high if you think Cal stadium has a nicer looking setting than army's.

That faultline, though. 

On 8/16/2025 at 1:38 PM, SL Xpress said:

Mosley is faster than you're giving him credit for. I don't agree with the rest of your post, either. 

Well we didn’t find out about the first part of my post but we sure found out about the second.  Now please write 10,000 words about how it was the QBs fault and we have a bunch of playmakers at receiver.

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Feels like we were sold a bill of goods this offseason on Arch and the WR corps. Mosley's injury should not have been enough to cripple our entire intermediate-to-downfield passing attack.

That was a weird fucking game, that we absolutely should not have lost. It felt more like an NFL preseason game for most of it, where they're just trying some shit out. Then we got down two scores and we saw glimpses of an actual real offense.  

17 minutes ago, Red Five said:

That was a weird fucking game, that we absolutely should not have lost.

Crazy stats:

Passing

UT:  17/30 170 1 TD 1 INT

tOSU:  13/20 126 1 TD 0 INT

 

Rushing

UT:  37/166/4.5 0 TD

tOSU:  34/77/2.3 1 TD

 

Punting

UT: 4/185/46.3

tOSU:  6/260/43.3

 

 

We were objectively as good or better in many legitimate statistics, but we just can't score the damn football.  Honest question:  on that 4th and goal where Arch got stuffed, would he have had a shot had he rolled out on a naked bootleg, or is that too easy to chase down?

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1 hour ago, ClubWhatever said:

Well we didn’t find out about the first part of my post but we sure found out about the second.  Now please write 10,000 words about how it was the QBs fault and we have a bunch of playmakers at receiver.

Every position group on the Texas team outplayed their opposition, other than one. Tate had the one amazing grab/breakup/grab for a touchdown going against Guilbeau. Outside of that the OSU receivers spent their offseason watching tape of Georgia last year thinking, "we need to play more like these guys!" Including all world Jeremiah Smith. 

On the final drive where Texas turned the ball over on downs Wingo is wide open on a crossing pattern that easily gets the first down and more, and Manning throws behind him which makes it practically impossible to catch, and even if he did, breaks his stride enough he wouldn't have been able to move the chains. And that's just one play. The wide receivers are going to end up looking a lot more all world against the rest of the competition leading up to Georgia, but it's primarily going to be because Arch Manning doesn't look like complete ass all game long. 

You're looking for receipts, but you should really keep looking. To paraphrase Obi Won Kenobi, this is not the performance you're looking for. 

1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Feels like we were sold a bill of goods this offseason on Arch and the WR corps. Mosley's injury should not have been enough to cripple our entire intermediate-to-downfield passing attack.

If the quarterback is throwing it over the receivers' head or skipping the ball to them, how is that on them?

This is a better wide receiver room than either 2005 or 2009. It's not as good as the last two years, at least not right now. We'll have to see how it looks at the end of the year. But at the end of the day the wide receivers are very dependent on the quarterback getting them the ball. Arch Manning was awful for most of the game, aside from the TD drive and then the one pass to Endries on the sideline in the drive that we turned it over on downs to end the game. The game was simply too big for him at this stage of his career. My hope as a fan is that with more reps he improves.

I watched the fan base clamor for Vince Young to be moved to wide receiver after his redshirt freshman year, and he looked not great until after the Missouri game in his redshirt sophomore season, then he became the Vince Young we all love to remember. I kept thinking Colt McCoy needed to be recruited over during his first two years. Too many interceptions and way too many should have been interceptions on top of that. Then he was a magician his last two years, making up for what was a so so WR room in terms of elite NFL talent and a gawdawful OL both years. 

Maybe this is the Arch Manning we get the rest of his career, but I sincerely doubt it. But that performance was awful. It seems like a horrible thing to say, but I truly believe he cost us that game. That's all there is to it. I wouldn't say that to him as his father, or his friend, or his coach, but I sure as heck feel that way as a fan.

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Kind of hard to get a read at what we have at WR after that game.

The read is that they aren't as good as OSU DBs. Seemed like they got solidly outmatched

1 minute ago, Tex-19 said:

The read is that they aren't as good as OSU DBs. Seemed like they got solidly outmatched

Well those are pretty good DBs. But I'm not sure I even agree with that.

Not to oversimplify things, but if Manning can hit the fucking side of a barn we win. We almost won regardless.

5 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

The read is that they aren't as good as OSU DBs. Seemed like they got solidly outmatched

They beat them enough for us to win. Which is the goal.

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