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Trump puts Washington police under federal control, National Guard to be deployed

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I saw people killed for no apparent reason in Columbus Circle and by the Morton's in Georgetown.

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    God damn does propaganda work.

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4 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Dumb take, but thanks.

Calling in the guard from Mississippi, a state whose capital has a homicide rate four times that of DC, makes helluvahlotta sense.

There’s a convicted felon and pedophile running free in DC. Why not arrested? SAD!

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Just now, DalTxHornFan said:

I saw people killed for no apparent reason in Columbus Circle and by the Morton's in Georgetown.

I've seen US citizens kidnapped by masked federalized goons for no apparent reason.

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I saw a murder happen near a place [that closed 7 years ago] so roll out the guard today

 

I'm totally a libertarian too. 

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

I've seen US citizens kidnapped by masked federalized goons for no apparent reason.

Bless your heart.

5 minutes ago, elfenix said:

I saw a murder happen near a place [that closed 7 years ago] so roll out the guard today

 

I'm totally a libertarian too. 

Didn't know Mortons's closed there.  Great place.

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6 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Bless your heart.

Seriously. Have you not seen the reports of American citizens also being rounded up? No sarcasm.

7 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Seriously. Have you not seen the reports of American citizens also being rounded up? No sarcasm.

I get that there may have been some mistakes, but I don't buy the idea of many dire outcomes for people who are legit.  If that happened, it shouldn't have.  I am not a bomb thrower, despite my reputation here!

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2 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

I get that there may have been some mistakes, but I don't buy the idea of many dire outcomes for people who are legit.  If that happened, it shouldn't have.  I am not a bomb thrower, despite my reputation here!

Do you know how you can best avoid those types of mistakes? Maybe some sort of judicial finding based on due process, a notion that's been around for, I dunno, about 800 years.

Just now, bolverk said:

Do you know how you can best avoid those types of mistakes? Maybe some sort of judicial finding based on due process, a notion that's been around for, I dunno, about 800 years.

Yeah, we have been doing that drill for years.  Non-citizens have no due process.  Economic cases have no basis for amnesty.  Cloward-Piven strategy at work. No thank you. 

8 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Yeah, we have been doing that drill for years.  Non-citizens have no due process.  Economic cases have no basis for amnesty.  Cloward-Piven strategy at work. No thank you. 

Citizens apparently also have no due process, except for the luck of the draw. Again, we are seeing US citizens also being rounded up in this bullshit.

How about you go get yourself detained for a few days in Alligator Alcatraz and come back and report on how you feel about due process being denied to Americans because of their accents or skin color?

Edit: Your random Cloward–Piven reference is bizarre. 

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

Citizens apparently also have no due process, except for the luck of the draw. Again, we are seeing US citizens also being rounded up in this bullshit.

How about you go get yourself detained for a few days in Alligator Alcatraz and come back and report on how you feel about due process being denied to Americans because of their accents or skin color?

You sound really silly.  But thanks for playing.

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No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;

Huh that's weird. They totally wrote citizen in one clause and then used person in the next. Must just be scrivener's error. 

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nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;

Huh just used person there too. That Madison guy just kept using those words he clearly didn't intend to mean.

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1 hour ago, DalTxHornFan said:

I don't live in DC, but have worked up there a bunch. I have seen dead bodies on the ground.  Not great, Bob.

You're a fucking idiot

Putting Trump aside for the moment.

Stirring up crime fear among a non-involved populace and subsequent governmental over-reaction is one of the oldest political stunts in the book.  The governmental overreaction almost always involves terrible and expensive policy that sacrifices civil rights and does little or nothing for public safety.

Think satanic panic, Biden crime bill, Miami and cocaine, the examples are endless.

People are getting suckered in the worst possible way.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Stirring up crime fear among a non-involved populace and subsequent governmental over-reaction is one of the oldest political stunts in the book.  The governmental overreaction almost always involves terrible and expensive policy that sacrifices civil rights and does little or nothing for public safety.

In the 1930s, the nazis deployed brown shirts and filled their ranks with the dregs of society that didn't have a job or prospects to look forward to. They then used that paramilitary force to attack their "untermensch" and political enemies.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-police-in-the-nazi-state

We are at the point where the feds are hospitalizing journalists and activists for asking too many questions and taking too many pictures. The posse of highschool drop outs that ICE is hiring is just a modernization of hitlers Brown shirts - a paramilitary force that answers only to their fuhrer and doesn't give a shit about breaking the law or protecting public safety.

2 hours ago, Captainant said:

In the 1930s, the nazis deployed brown shirts and filled their ranks with the dregs of society that didn't have a job or prospects to look forward to. They then used that paramilitary force to attack their "untermensch" and political enemies.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-police-in-the-nazi-state

We are at the point where the feds are hospitalizing journalists and activists for asking too many questions and taking too many pictures. The posse of highschool drop outs that ICE is hiring is just a modernization of hitlers Brown shirts - a paramilitary force that answers only to their fuhrer and doesn't give a shit about breaking the law or protecting public safety.

Godwin's law wins again!

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22 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Godwin's law wins again!

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This is 2025, we're way past Godwin's law.

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Godwin amended his law, and said to call out you Nazi fucks for the pieces of shit you are. Were you as well informed as you claim, you’d know that.

In 2023, Godwin published an opinion in The Washington Post stating "Yes, it's okay to compare Trump to Hitler. Don't let me stop you."[20] In the article, Godwin says "But when people draw parallels between Donald Trump’s 2024 candidacy and Hitler’s progression from fringe figure to Great Dictator, we aren’t joking. Those of us who hope to preserve our democratic institutions need to underscore the resemblance before we enter the twilight of American democracy."

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10 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Godwin amended his law, and said to call out you Nazi fucks for the pieces of shit you are. Were you as well informed as you claim, you’d know that.

Love debate on merits.  Ad hominem is very weak.

I've asked my more fascist-apologist friends how many innocent people wrongly detained and beaten and/or people punished far beyond the level of their crimes it will take to finally acknowledge that giving ICE carte blanche powers and occupying cities with military forces may be a bad idea.

You'll be shocked to learn that they are unable to provide a number, probably realizing deep down that any non horrifying number has long since been breached.

1 minute ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Love debate on merits.  Ad hominem is very weak.

You brought up Godwin. I included Godwin’s own words in my edit. If you don’t think Hitler was a piece of shit, and it appears you don’t, then I invoke truth as my defense.

21 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Love debate on merits.  Ad hominem is very weak.

Notably, I'm not calling you or this administration "nazis". I'm saying their behavior is fascist and consistent with how the nazis behaved during their consolidation of power and state violence.

But don't let me stop you from jumping to victimhood

24 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I've asked my more fascist-apologist friends how many innocent people wrongly detained and beaten and/or people punished far beyond the level of their crimes it will take to finally acknowledge that giving ICE carte blanche powers and occupying cities with military forces may be a bad idea.

You'll be shocked to learn that they are unable to provide a number, probably realizing deep down that any non horrifying number has long since been breached.

The number doesn't exist, the metric is "until it's me or my family, and then maybe......" 

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8 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Yeah, we have been doing that drill for years.  Non-citizens have no due process.  Economic cases have no basis for amnesty.  Cloward-Piven strategy at work. No thank you. 

This is amazingly anti-American. 

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i am a libertarian. i am well informed. i love debate on the merits. my data points are this one time decades ago that i think i saw a dead guy. so that justifies the national guard cracking down on turnstile jumpers today. and a conspiracy theory reading of recent events.

 

also, i can't read.

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4 minutes ago, elfenix said:

i am a libertarian. i am well informed. i love debate on the merits. my data points are this one time decades ago that i think i saw a dead guy. so that justifies the national guard cracking down on turnstile jumpers today. and a conspiracy theory reading of recent events.

 

also, i can't read.

He’s trolling. “DC is safer, also I don’t live there”. He’s fucking with you and all of us. We all read how the new US attorney in DC won’t charge people for carrying assault weapons and we’re watching the deployment of US military- not in SE, NE, or Anacostia - but to monuments and tourist spots. Everyone who has two brain cells knows this isn’t about crime.
 

Oh but don’t say how many federal agents that refuse to identify themselves act like a police force that’s secret. Bc if you accurately compare their actions to SS and Nazis then that’s somehow proving you just don’t understand how to debate anyone.

Just baiting and bomb throwing bullshit. Next he’ll probably post about trans people in the military 

Anyways, people need to get better at ignoring trolls

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29 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Notably, I'm not calling you or this administration "nazis". I'm saying their behavior is fascist and consistent with how the nazis behaved during their consolidation of power and state violence.

But don't let me stop you from jumping to victimhood

I am calling them Nazis. Rounding up people, including citizens for “deportation”, or simply extended stints in concentration camps with no due process is Nazi shit. Officials who speak on behalf of DHS are pushing literal Nazi propaganda. If you support this government then wear the association with pride. 

5 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I am calling them Nazis. Rounding up people, including citizens for “deportation”, or simply extended stints in concentration camps with no due process is Nazi shit. Officials who speak on behalf of DHS are pushing literal Nazi propaganda. If you support this government then wear the association with pride. 

I mean DHS is using actual Nazi imagery in their social media. They don’t even hide it and no one gives a shit. 

9 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Didn't know Mortons's closed there.  Great place.

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So scared of violent crime, they're gonna stop prosecuting folks for illegally owning long guns in DC.

Totes not setting up a paramilitary force in the seat of power.

 

31 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

but to monuments and tourist spots

which were already the purview of the federal government.

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MENDELSON: I don't know where they're going, and I think they're the beginning steps. A lot of the homeless encampments - and let me just say that we're not unusual compared to other cities in having homeless population on our streets - actually less than in many other cities. But a lot of those homeless encampments are on federal land now. And so the federal government is really the only jurisdiction (ph) or agency that's in a position to do something about it.

SHAPIRO: Oh, you're saying he could have done that even before the takeover?

MENDELSON: Correct. Like, for instance, homeless encampments in Rock Creek Park or in some of the triangle parks - those are all federal land, and the federal government already had the authority to do something. We'd like them to treat these folks humanely, and the president's rhetoric suggests otherwise. But we haven't actually seen what's going to happen.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/12/nx-s1-5500208/chair-of-d-c-council-responds-to-trumps-emergency-declaration

 

wonder if the extra billion dollars that DC has collected but can't spend because mike johnson is holding shit up would help?

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MENDELSON: Well, nothing has happened. So the Senate - this is going back to March - realized at the 11th hour the mistake and passed separate legislation before it recessed to fix the problem. The bill was promptly sent to the House, and it continues to sit at the speaker's desk. It's never been referred. It's never been put on the floor. It's a billion-dollar cut to our budget. These are not federal dollars. And in fact, the revenues are still being collected. It's just that under the Congressional action, or inaction, we were precluded from being able to spend that money. So it's money that's going to be left over at the end of the year, but it's created a lot of difficulty.

 

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30 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Anyways, people need to get better at ignoring trolls

I’ve been saying this

32 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

He’s trolling. “DC is safer, also I don’t live there”. He’s fucking with you and all of us. We all read how the new US attorney in DC won’t charge people for carrying assault weapons and we’re watching the deployment of US military- not in SE, NE, or Anacostia - but to monuments and tourist spots. Everyone who has two brain cells knows this isn’t about crime.
 

Oh but don’t say how many federal agents that refuse to identify themselves act like a police force that’s secret. Bc if you accurately compare their actions to SS and Nazis then that’s somehow proving you just don’t understand how to debate anyone.

Just baiting and bomb throwing bullshit. Next he’ll probably post about trans people in the military 

Anyways, people need to get better at ignoring trolls

I'm not sure its trolling, he sounds like a true believer who worships whatever lie his dear leader tells him about anything, but either way worth ignoring because you'll never convince them of facts they don't like because its an actual religion for them. 

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5 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Maybe he’s. Not trolling.  He’s from Dallas.  

I'm sure he also believes "thEre IS No INFLaTion" because dear leader said so.

Bitcoin.com News on X: "NEW: 🇺🇸 President Trump says, "There is no  Inflation, and every sign is pointing to a major Rate Cut. "Too Late" is a  disaster!" 🎙️ Fed chair Powell,

Ah, the guy that bankrupted six companies wants to set economic policy.  What could possibly go wrong?

3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I'm sure he also believes "thEre IS No INFLaTion" because dear leader said so.

Bitcoin.com News on X: "NEW: 🇺🇸 President Trump says, "There is no  Inflation, and every sign is pointing to a major Rate Cut. "Too Late" is a  disaster!" 🎙️ Fed chair Powell,

No inflation

No job losses

No COVID

CRIME IS HIGHER THAN EVER!!!!!!

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10 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Yeah, we have been doing that drill for years.  Non-citizens have no due process.  Economic cases have no basis for amnesty.  Cloward-Piven strategy at work. No thank you. 

On what basis do you make this statement?  It is flat out incorrect and I'm surprised I haven't seen it immediately corrected.

Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Doesn't say anything about which "people".  "The right of the people..." All people. 

Fifth Amendment

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

(Emphasis added).  No PERSON.  Doesn't say "citizen."  All people in the U.S. are afforded the right to Due Process.  Either everyone has it, or no one has it.  

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10 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

I saw people killed for no apparent reason in Columbus Circle and by the Morton's in Georgetown.

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2 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

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Don't forget "saw youths on atvs"

43 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I'm sure he also believes "thEre IS No INFLaTion" because dear leader said so.

Bitcoin.com News on X: "NEW: 🇺🇸 President Trump says, "There is no  Inflation, and every sign is pointing to a major Rate Cut. "Too Late" is a  disaster!" 🎙️ Fed chair Powell,

Who appointed Powell again? I forget. 

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the problem with the right wing is they spend all their time devoted to ideology in order to avoid accidentally feeling empathy for their victims.  look, i'm sorry that the kids are going to starve, but we can't afford to teach fourth graders they can rely on handoutslook, no one likes school shootings, but that's the price we have to pay to keep from having an oppressive government appear.  

 

then when their ideology is violated, they just stop caring about that ideology at all.  oppressive government? c'mon, its just a few unmarked police stooges jumping out of cars grabbing people off streets and taking them to something that is explicitly a concentration camp, fully videoed so that there is no doubt about the factual accuracy of this claim, directly at the request of the president to have national troops patrolling the streets.  a little oppression is the price we have to pay to keep from not having a little oppression.

 

the whole 'leopards eating faces' thing is complete bullshit.  it will never happen to them.  all they have to do is say i ❤️ dear leader and they will always be safe from the oppression; in fact, they will be rewarded.  and because they have all the empathy squished out of them, everything is totally fine.  all at the low low price of giving up on any of the principles set forth 250  years ago.

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